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american express' timeless safety and security are now available on apple pay. the next evolution of membership is here. thanks to you at home for joining us. we have news later on this hour on bridgegate. the guilty pleas and the criminal indictments announced in the new jersey bridge scandal. we have been watching the events unfold in baltimore. we've been watching this story all week. no one expected what was going to happen today. if you have been watching, especially not just this story about what happened to freddie gray and the police officers who have been charged in his death. if you have been watching with the nation and the world, as we've seen so many cases of police-involved killings, you didn't expect this day to come. nobody really did.
the current national outrage over police use of force began in ernest late last summer with the shooting of michael brown. in ferguson missouri. michael brown 18 years old and unarmed when he died in the street in ferguson in august 2014. after michael brown's death, ferguson saw weeks of protests. some of them very intense. local officials asked people to let the process play out. the justice process. wait for a grand jury to decide whether the officer who shot michael brown should be charged for michael brown's killing. that process dragged on for weeks and months until finally in november three months after michael brown was dead and buried with the city of ferguson and the st. louis region on edge about what the grand jury would decide people hoping and believing at that time that at least the release of information about the decision would be handled in such a way that would give
people fair warning and time to prepare, time to brace themselves. in the end, the way it happened in that case, the st. louis county prosecutor made his announcement at night with no warning. that prosecutor ambled up to the microphone, long after nightfall with a couple hundred protesters already outside, gave a rambling, abrasive, at times bizarre, stem-winder of a long press conference, in which he suggested some of the witnesses simply lied to the grand jury. he had been talking for ten minutes already that night before he finally came to the point about what he was there to announce. and what the grand jury decided. >> they determined that no probable cause exists to file any charge against officer wilson. >> there would be no charges in the police killing of michael brown. in ferguson, missouri, that night, the crowd outside erupted in disbelief. and rage and grief. michael brown's mother was there that night. out in the street, out among the hastily gathered protesters as the news was announced in the
dark of night. >> why, oh why? why? >> they didn't care. >> they still don't care! they ain't never gonna care. >> it ain't their kids. >> they do not care. they're never going to care. in ferguson, missouri, the prosecutor announced the decision not to press charges until it was dark outside. what happened next was that ferguson burned. the protests turned violent. local businesses burned to the ground. that was ferguson, missouri, just a few months ago. today in baltimore, maryland, night and day. we are not yet three weeks out from the death of freddie gray in baltimore, maryland, after he suffered a spinal injury while in police custody. freddie gray arrested on april 12th and died on april 19th. freddie gray was buried on monday, when the riot broke out following the funeral when the kids were released from school. the city of baltimore has been
under a state of emergency and in a nighttime curfew. that curfew will be if place tonight at 10:00 p.m. until 5:00 a.m. since the rioting and looting on monday, the city of baltimore has kept a peaceful vigil. mostly watching for the process to play out, while continuing the demonstrations in a peaceful way. yesterday in baltimore, police announced they had finished their part of the investigation into freddie gray's death. they finished early. they finished a day ahead of schedule. said they sent the report on to a local prosecutor for her to make a decision about whether to press charges in the death of freddie gray. the local prosecutor is marilyn mosby. she's been on the job in baltimore for just four months. her job is an elected position. marilyn mosby is a boston native. her parents, grandmother and other members of her family in multiple generations have been police officers. she worked in u.s. attorney offices in boston and washington, d.c.
she joined the prosecutor's office in 2005 and worked her way up through the ranks in that office. she left at one point and then worked in the private sector for some time. then last year at the ripe age of 34, she decided to try to come back into the local prosecutor's office. this time, at the highest level. she is a democrat. she ran against the democratic prosecutor last year. he outspent her 3:1. when you win the democratic primary, you win the general election. when she took office this year, she became the youngest chief prosecutor of any major city in the country right now. this morning in broad daylight, 10:30 a.m., marilyn mosby made her announcement, that freddie gray's death was a homicide, and that the half dozen officers involved in his death would be charged criminally. >> the findings of our comprehensive, thorough and
independent investigation, coupled with the medical examiner's determination that mr. gray's death was a homicide, which we received today, has led us to believe that we have probable cause to file criminal charges. the manner of death deemed a homicide by the maryland state medical examiner is believed to be the result of a fatal injury that occurred while mr. gray was unrestrained by a seat belt in the custody of the baltimore police department wagon. to those that are angry, hurt or have their own experiences of injustice at the hands of police officers, i urge you to channel the energy peacefully, as we prosecute this case. i've heard your calls for no justice, no peace. however, your peace is sincerely needed, as i work to deliver justice on behalf of freddie gray. to the rank and file officers of the baltimore city police department, please know that these accusations of these six officers are not an indictment
on the entire force. i come from five generations of law enforcement. my father was an officer. my mother was an officer. several of my aunts and uncles. my recently departed and beloved grandfather was one of the founding members of the first black police organization in massachusetts. i can tell you that the actions of these officers will not and should not in any way damage the important working relationships between police and prosecutors, as we continue to fight together to reduce crime in baltimore. thank you for your courage, commitment and sacrifice for the betterment of our communities. last but certainly not least, to the youth of this city. i will seek justice on your behalf. this is a moment, this is your moment. let's ensure that we have peaceful and productive rallies
that will develop structure and systemic changes for generations to come. you're at the forefront of this cause. as young people, our time is now. >> that's right! [ applause ] >> as young people, our time is now. prosecutor marilyn mosby. herself just 35 years old. took office in january when she was 34 years old. now she's running what might be the most high-profile criminal prosecution in the country. >> having a great time. >> we're celebrating for freddie. >> fighting for us. >> we're celebrating. >> justice! >> finally cops are seeing justice. hopefully it's followed all the way through. >> we feel good. we got our chance, man. this has been waiting for years. finally got a chance. this is the only one. we going to -- you ain't got to worry about nothing, looting or nothing. that's all we wanted. >> i do feel a lot better, a lot more at ease. the only thing is though, i'm not going to get too happy. you just are saying it's an
indictment. it's not a full prosecution. i honestly think they're just doing it to quiet us down some so we won't go crazy. >> america is going to be in shock therapy tonight. to see the mug shots of police officers on television, when all this week, the young people of baltimore have been called thugs. for them to feel some level of validation, that they got america's attention. because had they not marched, it would have been somebody else on the street as a statistic. so we're appreciative and march for it. >> the six officers charged today in freddie gray's death are facing charges that range from misconduct in office to assault to manslaughter to second degree murder with a depraved heart. which is a poetic way of saying a disregard for life. the officers facing the most serious second-degree murder charges are looking at over 60 years in prison if convicted on all counts. all six officers reportedly
turned themselves in today. in the last few minutes, we learned that all six posted bail today. if they're not out now, they will probably be out soon. the baltimore police union published an open letter to marilyn mosby, the elected prosecutor asking she have an independent prosecutor to handle the case rather than herself. the police union says she has personal and professional conflicts in this case, including a professional associate with freddie gray's family attorney. billy murphy who you saw on this program last night, he has mentored young lawyers for decades now. that may become an issue in this case. the police union sees it as an issue. marilyn mosby does not see it as an issue. the mayor of baltimore, stephanie rawlins blake, she spoke today about the visceral shock of hearing police officers charged with such crimes. >> i was sickened and heartbroken by the statement of charges we heard today. because no one in our city is above the law.
justice must apply to all of us. equally. we know that the vast majority of the men and the women in the baltimore city police department serve our city with pride. with courage. with honor. and with distinction. but to those of you who wish to engage in brutality, misconduct, racism and corruption, let me be clear, there is no place in the baltimore city police department for you. there will be justice for mr. gray. there will be justice for his family. and there will be justice for the people of baltimore. >> mayor of baltimore speaking today. we also heard from representatives of freddie gray's family today. >> we are satisfied with today's charges. these charges are an important step in getting justice for freddie. and we ask that whoever comes to
our city, a city that we love, a city that we live in, come in peace. remember, without justice, there is no peace. but let us have peace and the pursuit of justice. >> freddie gray's stepfather speaking today. peace in the pursuit of justice. let's go to msnbc's national correspondent, joy reid earning more than her keep this week. joy, thank you so much for being with us. tell us where you are and who you're with and what's going on. >> reporter: hi, rachel. we are here. we found a great family, as you can see. their adorable 3 and 5-year-olds. brother-in-law helping out with shoulders to keep the 5-year-old aloft for a little while. we were talking earlier about this family who actually have talked to their children, even at their young and adorable age, about the issues that are involved in cases like the one we're talking about with freddie
gray. i'm going to start with taniko. you were surprised, you said, by the officers being charged. >> i was surprised. i was very surprised that it came down and that it came down today. yeah, i was surprised. >> reporter: and even though your children are very young, you were saying you actually talked to them about the issues that are involved in policing. the issues we've seen with the black lives matter movement. what do you say to a 5-year-old about the issues we're seeing in this country? >> at this age, we just tell them what's right and wrong. that the police are no better than us regular citizens. we let them know that it's important for them to be held accountable, like we are, like they are, at this young age. >> reporter: going forward, what will you tell them about today? we can hear -- rachel, i don't know if you can hear the honking, but it's been honking and waving all day. it's a jubilant crowd. this is the biggest crowd we've seen in any of the days i've been here, the last four days. a very happy crowd, restrained police presence.
more cars and more people and more little children, people with kids, out here. it's a very light hearted atmosphere. what will you tell your children about this? this isn't obviously a block party. it's a serious issue. but people really feel like they've accomplished something, right? >> absolutely. it is a serious issue. they have seen what happened from the beginning of the riot to today. it's very important for us to have explained to them and for them to see today. because they also saw the riot itself. they were a part of that. it's important for them to see that that's what could happen. and that when there are emotions involved, how things could go, it's important for them to see the other side of that, too. it's important for them to see how we as people come together and that this is what it is. and what it can be. >> from a riot to a true protest. goes from a riot to a protest. >> this is your city. how do you think baltimore will change after this? when we're all gone, when this media presence goes away, how will baltimore change or how should it change?
>> i think people have seen -- have been able to come together in ways that we have, you know, maybe not shown as much as we have before. i think there is a lot to come. i think there's a lot to come. we've seen a lot, and there's still more to come. >> reporter: indeed. this is one family that is here. it's almost curfew time. do you live far? are you heading home? >> we're not extremely far away but not right here. >> it's past bedtime for the little guys. rachel, this gives you a sense of how much conversation there has been, around all the issues. even before freddie gray up until now. a lot of conversation happening out here. you can see lots of signs. some of the students from frederick douglas are here. i think really the message in today, rachel, is this community did come together. there is a sense of togetherness. a sense of unity and jubilation. everyone is cautious in their
optimism that we have spoken with. they want to see the process through. it's just the beginning, but i think it is a start. you see baltimore turn a positive corner. >> joy reid, amazing report. thank you so much. please thank everybody for sticking out and being with us as curfew closes in. i appreciate it. thank you. the sign there being held by the high school student, in case you couldn't see it, said frederick douglas students are not thugs. so we're looking at 45 minutes until the next curfew. that report from joy, i think, is important. she's talking about not only the newly large crowds out again, one also the diversity of the crowds, including people bringing their kids and it being a light hearted atmosphere. people still have to clear the streets, legally speaking, within the next 45 minutes. but we're going to be checking back in to see how that unfolds over the course of the next hour in what has been a remarkable and very, very surprising day in baltimore. lots more ahead. stay with us. (vo) maggie wasn't thrilled when ben and i got married. i knew it'd take some time. and her sensitive stomach didn't make things easier. it was hard to know why...
with less than an hour left before curfew tonight, and as we saw with joy reid, large, happy crowds out in the streets of baltimore tonight. we'll have more ahead this hour from baltimore. also coming up this hour, huge developments today in a story we've covered extensively. i think we were the first to cover in the national media. there was a guilty plea today in new jersey, and two other criminal indictments filed over the shutdown of lanes leading on to the busiest bridge in the world. it has been an incredible news day. when it rains news, it pours news. stay with us. ♪ if you're looking for a car that drives you... ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands...
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probably do not recognize. she is a good politician. she is well-known and well-liked where she's from. but she does not have a big national profile. you probably have never heard of her. her one big foray into big time politics was being the sacrificial lamb who ran for governor of new jersey two years ago, against chris christie. there really was no chance that barbara buono was going to become the governor of new jersey in 2013. chris christie was probably going to win reelection, no matter who he ran against. when she failed to have a household name challenger, it was clear he'd win by double digits even if he didn't try at all. governor chris christie in 2013 had his eyes on a more difficult prize. he really did try. he ran hard in his reelection campaign. basically, so he could use it as a running start for the real race further down the line, him
running for president in 2016. as a new jersey republican governor, governor chris christie had always known he wouldn't have the enthusiastic support nationwide. his base for why the republican party should nominate him for president was going to be the prospect of his winnability. the chris christie for president strategy was always going to be to convince the republican party that even if he wasn't a perspective conservative hardliner, it's okay because he would be unbeatable in a general election. that was his pitch. his re-election effort in 2013, it was important for that around his presidential candidacy. for that reason he didn't just want to beat what was her name again, barbara buono, he wanted
to win by acclamation. he wanted all the votes. kazakhstan votes. 97%. he wanted to run up the score. specifically in order to do that, he needed to make sure he had a lot of crossover appear. it was central to his strategy, that his campaign seek and get tons of endorsements from democratic politicians around new jersey. key to his whole strategy. both for the election and also for the next election to come. but that effort to target democrats, to pressure democratic officials, and punish those who didn't, that led to one of the weirdest political scandals of our age. we posted online today the first segment we ever did on this december of 2013. it was the first time anyone in national media did a tv news story about it. it was this weird scandal in new jersey, where it appeared someone intentionally caused a traffic jam on the george washington bridge.
on the busiest bridge in the world. we didn't know how big it would become at the time. there was a lot of criticism of us at the time for covering what was just a traffic jam, or trying to make a federal case out of what was an exercise in local politics. turns out though, it really was a federal case. it was a criminal act. i can say that definitively. today, we got the first indictments and the first guilty plea in what has been a year and a half long saga that started with the traffic jam on the george washington bridge. the traffic jam was september 2013, four days that september, two of the three local access lanes onto the george washington bridge were shut down and caused a traffic nightmare in a little new jersey town called fort lee. for those four days the town of fort lee was essentially paralyzed with traffic. the questions about why that traffic jam happened started in the local press in new jersey and some of the new york press, including the reporters from the
wall street journal. it was clear from the start that something sort of fishy had been going on. this was not a traffic jam that happened for organic reasons. the local officials in fort lee, including the mayor, they had no advanced warning that the lane closures were going to happen. executives at the agency that run the bridge seemed caught off guard. it was strange from the beginning. when we covered it at the beginning, it was a big open question as to why this traffic nightmare had been apparently purposefully visited upon this poor little town in new jersey, without any warning. the investigation into what happened started with the local press. it soon moved to the new jersey state legislature. it proved up the smoking gun, that it was a deliberate and political act. smoking gun was an e-mail from chris christie's deputy chief of staff, bridget kelly. an e-mail from her to a chris
christie appointee at the agency who runs the bridge. an e-mail, in which kelly directed david wildstein to unleash traffic chaos. time for traffic problems in fort lee. then the chris christie appointee responded, got it. what unleashed was traffic armageddon. a planned orchestrated traffic jam that paralyzed fort lee for four days. before somebody stopped it when they figured out what was happening. today, the recipient of the time for traffic problems e-mail, david wildstein, pled guilty, to conspiring to orchestrate that traffic jam along with chris christie's chief of staff, along with another member named bill baroni. the three of them plotted to purposely cause the traffic jam on the george washington bridge in order to quote, punish the mayor of fort lee, democrat for
not endorsing chris christie in his re-election bid that year. they purposely waited until the first day of school in new jersey in order to maximize the traffic congestion in fort lee and, thus the punishment of the mayor. the guilty plea by david wildstein was announced today. >> bill baroni, bridget kelly and david wildstein were government employees. they were public servants. people in those positions have an obligation to use government resources, our resources, for proper government purposes. the indictment alleges, and wildstein admitted these three defendants did something different. they used the resources of the port authority, public resources, to carry out a vendetta and political retribution against an official who would not endorse the candidate of their choice.
>> it was a jolt it was a punch in the gut to me to hear an individual plead guilty and subject themselves to a potential jail term for conducting himself in an intentional way to get to me. you want to get me, get me. but two things. don't, do not involve the people in fort lee who i have sworn my life to protect and to make sure that -- that i've sworn to make sure the quality of their lives is the highest it can be and their health, safety and welfare is always preserved. at the end of the day, that's my most important responsibility as the mayor of this town. >> that was the mayor of fort lee, mark sukolich reacting to the guilty plea of david wildstein and the indictment of two other chris christie
officials. david is due to be sentenced in august, though he's cooperating with federal prosecutors. the prosecutor warned us we shouldn't expect him to get too much prison time. the other two people charged today are not cooperating with prosecutors and say they're not guilty of the crimes they're formally accused. >> bill baroni is innocent of the charges brought against him by federal prosecutors. the accusations are false. when all the facts come to light, bill will be fully exonerated. >> with regard to the charges that have been brought against me, let me make something very clear. i am not guilty of these charges. i never ordered or conspired with david wildstein to close or realign lanes at the bridge for any reason. much less for retribution. i look forward to publicly sharing the truth about what occurred regarding this issue with the jury and allow them, not some self-interested parties, to determine what
really happened. >> the jury, you say? bridget kelly herself and lawyers for bill baroni today saying each of them is not guilty. they both look forward to defending themselves at trial and explaining things to the jury. and, yes, the thing that means for all of us following this is there's going to be a trial in front of a jury. that means crucially that david wildstein who is cooperating with prosecutors is not done talking about what he knows. that is potentially trouble for the man all of these individuals worked for, governor chris christie of new jersey. watch this from the press conference with david wildstein's attorney. >> was governor christie involved? >> i had made a statement on behalf of mr. wildstein in january of 2013.
that mr. christie knew of the lane closures while they were occurring, and evidence exists to establish that. that is as much as i can say and as much as i will say at this time. thank you. >> oh, really? david wildstein said chris christie knew after the lane closures when they happened. there are pictures of them together when the lane closures were happening. david hasn't produced any evidence that chris christie knew. chris christie, including today, contended he's done nothing wrong and knew nothing about the whole scheme. now, david wildstein says he has the evidence that chris christie knew about it and is eager to testify. we know that there is likely to be a trial now, at which david wildstein will get to testify. if he has that evidence, that will be his opportunity to share it. new jersey governor chris christie is running for president. right now, he hasn't declared
but he's obviously running for president. today, he was busy running for president in virginia. can he actually make a run for president while this is going on? maybe. yeah, because weirdly enough, this year, chris christie has company. rick perry, one of the other potential republican candidates, he is currently under indictment for allegedly abusing the powers of his office while he was governor of texas. wisconsin governor scott walker is running for president, while his own gubernatorial campaign at home is facing questions, and a pair of his former aids have recently been sentenced to prison. then there's rand paul, who has inherited an entire presidential campaign staff from his dad, while a number of key players from that campaign are waiting to hear if they're going to be indicted as a result of that campaign's old lingering bribery scandal from 2012. so maybe this is the watershed
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moments ago, as soon as i said bye, joy, she was able to get this interview with congressman elijah cummings. congressman cummings has been on the ground personal leader shirpship this week. he represents baltimore and has been on the streets every night since monday. personally helping to keep the peace. joy, just a moment ago, found him and asked him if he thinks that congress has any role to help the situation here. watch what he said. >> the congress has got a lot of roles. all of us have a lot of roles to play. this has to be a wake-up call. it's talked about a lot. we have to realize that a lot of people are hurting. money is being -- we are in this austerity mode in washington in our capital, annapolis, and money is not being put into the cities like it should be. and pulling out from the middle
class and people trying to get from the lower class up into the middle class, makes it almost impossible for them to get there. people want jobs. they want job training. all of those things, we need to be doing on the federal level. by the way, i say at least 81 members of the congress over the last three or four days have come to me and said, you know, i'm worried about that happening in my city. i'm worried about that happening. let me say this. i am proud of baltimore. i am proud. i don't know -- i have not seen anybody arrested here. there probably was. for the last three nights, it's been peaceful. right. we are showing america how to do it. we mourn the death of our brother. we really do. freddie gray, we mourn his death.
but in his death, they're now talking about him all over the world. sadly, the sad and tragic death led to all of this. and just the way he was treated may cause others not to be treated that way. all right? >> reporter: thank you, congressman. >> congressman elijah cummings speaking with joy reid, just a moment ago. honestly, he has been a model of leadership. should this happen in other cities from here on out, members of congress, whoever they are, will look to what elijah cummings did on the streets every night this week as the platonic form, the best way to show leadership when your community needs you. we'll be right back.
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>> these officers did nothing wrong. as all of the facts surrounding this case come out in the appropriate forum, the officers' lack of wrong doing will be made abundantly clear. we believe that the actions taken today by the state's attorney are an egregious rush to judgment, and we have grave concerns about the fairness, integrity of the prosecution of our officers. >> these officers did nothing wrong. that was the police union president in baltimore, the president of the baltimore fraternal order of police, as well as the attorney who is representing this police lieutenant, brian rice, charged today with involuntary manslaughter, secondary assault and misconduct in officer. lieutenant rice along with the five other officers indicted in baltimore today were told they have posted bond. in terms of what's going on in the streets in baltimore tonight, after what was mostly a celebratory day, as many people in the streets today celebrated the announced indictments of the six officers, right now, as we head into the last quarter hour before the curfew will be
imposed, we're told there are several hundred people still out around the area of north and pennsylvania in west baltimore. the city heads to the start of a fourth night of the curfew. joining us now is tessa hill-austin who is the president of the baltimore chapter of the naacp. thank you very much for being with us tonight. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> can i ask your reaction today, broadly speaking, to this announcement, that the six officers will be charged? >> well, i think it's a good thing. one of the things that has happened here in baltimore for years is that there are about four men that have died over the past five years, that there's been no indictments of any officers in the past. that's why so many people in the community are outraged. because there's never been anybody brought to justice. and the people are dead and there's never been court action. regardless of what happens in the future, right now today, officers were indicted and people will see there is something moving to go to court.
whatever happens after today happens in court. at least officers were indicted like any other citizen who does something wrong. >> obviously, this is an indictment, not a conviction. they're innocent until proven guilty. i was struck by the aggressiveness of the fraternal order police response. they're not only critical of the indictments but they said this prosecutor is improperly involved in the case. that it should be a special prosecutor bringing these, and she's too conflicted on the issue to properly prosecute this matter. how do you feel about that charge? >> it's a terrible thing to say because she's new and has only been in office a few months. she won the election. this is one of the first big cases for her to do this. there's nothing to judge on the fact she's doing anything improper. she did the indictment after reviewing the case. that's her profession. she has a staff of qualified lawyers to assist her. i think she did the right thing. that's what the citizens want,
the right thing to happen. when officers take down a person, somebody dies, they need the same judgment we would do if it was a normal citizen. i think she handled it very well and let the court process work. that's what should happen. the citizens of baltimore and over the whole united states are pleased with that. >> one of the reasons i was looking forward to talking to you tonight is because i've seen footage and read reporting this week and seen clips of you being out there in the middle of the fray, trying to keep the peace. trying to get people to channel their anger and interest in protesting into constructive, non-violence, non-confrontational means that don't get more people arrested and hurt. has it been a challenging week for you? i've seen you do that good work in the streets. i imagine it must be heartening and also very hard. >> it is challenging because people's emotions are running high. when you're in the street with this many people, everybody's personality is different. you think you can calm down somebody and talk to them, and
some people don't want to hear it. i've been fortunate. i've been out every night. i was in the neighborhood and down here in front of city hall, where they've been having their rallies. two nights ago, there were 100, 150 young people from gilmore homes, where freddie gray lived. i knew some of them. i think the police were stepping to them very aggressively. i stepped between them and the police and asked them to please go home. i hugged them, kissed them, and they listened to me. i reached out to the leaders with the bull horns and said, go home. keep chanting but don't step toward the police. we don't want you to get in trouble. they listened to me, and they chanted and then walked several miles back to their community. i'm very thankful that i was standing there -- i'm dara brown with breaking news. it's a girl for the royal family. she was born at 8:34 london time. the duchess is doing well and
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with sprinkles? sprinkles are for winners. i understand. i think the people of baltimore want more than anything else, is the truth. that's why people around the country expect. to the extent that it's appropriate, this administration will help local officials get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
so we're closing in on the start of the fourth night of curfew 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. the fourth night of the state of emergency in the city of baltimore. today is also though may 1st may day. may day is historically a day when people protest in favor of labor rights but may day has always been broader than that. it's always been a day for marching for social justice and this year may day doves perfectly with this rising crescendo of what is happening around in this remarkable day of news. today's may day brought us big protests in seattle where protesters made their way to the federal courthouse in seattle. also the san francisco bay area and oakland where protests included long shoremen marching side by side with black
protesters making their way to city hall. in chicago, people were out in pretty big numbers in the streets of chicago for may 1st. new york city, hundreds of people gathered in union square today. two nights ago in new york more than 140 protesters were arrested by the nypd mayor bill de blasio already having a hard time explaining the huge arrest numbers in new york and how things have gone elsewhere in the country. downtown portland, today, people carried signs that said "don't shoot" and "black lives matter." in durham north carolina people gathered outside the police headquarters today. minneapolis, minnesota, saw a few protests. today hundreds of minneapolis high school students walked out of school to join the larger protest, hands up don't shoot. big numbers out in the street protesting for may day today, not just for labor like always happens, but today, in particular, against police brutality. many in honor of freddie gray. and so tonight on may day, these protests are happening all over the country. a lot of them still underway and in baltimore again, we are
nearing the imposition of the city-wide curfew for a fourth straight night. a lot of people out in the street, more than the last couple of nights. it's been a very positive vibe we are hearing today because of the indictments of the officers being announced by the state's attorney. but we are coming up on five minutes till the curfew. we'll be right back.
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craig melvin is in baltimore right now with city councilman nick mosely. craig, thank you. >> reporter: rachel, good evening to you. nick, you have been out every night, this crowd compared to previous crowds? >> it appears to be less folks from this community and more folks from outside the community. >> reporter: professional -- >> yeah, folks that -- >> we just lost that feed. where you can see craig and the councilman there that councilman incidentally is the husband of marilyn mosby, the local prosecutor who decided to bring the charges against the police today. i'm sorry we lost the feed. we are less than two minutes away from the imposition of the curfew. the police aggressively are calling for people to get out of the street and asked media to move to a specific media staging area so the media itself cannot have the impact on the -- the
media themselves will not keep people out in the streets by virtue of the fact that they are out there with cameras and lights and attracting attention. as you can see, the national guardsmen and women and a significant contingent of baltimore police supplemented by police from surrounding communities and states making a pretty big show of at least taking up space right now from the streets of baltimore, particularly in baltimore near the intersections where people congregate in the largest numbers over the last few days of protest. since they imposed the curfew a big night of violence and looting was monday night. the first night of the curfew was tuesday. we have had tuesday, wednesday and thursday nights of the curfew. there have been a few minor skirmishes around the imposition of the curfew but so far not significant clashes and people have mostly been obeying the curfew and going home. it remains to be seen if that happens again tonight, but we have heard the mood in the city has been among the protestors largely celebratory that the
police officers will be facing trial there, innocent until proven guilty. but the fact there have been criminal indictments has given a lot of people hope there will be some sort of accountability for mr. gray's death. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. an illegal arrest and now federal charges for freddie gray. >> america is going to be in shock therapy today to see the mug shots of police officers on television. >> this morning there's an outpouring of joy and relief and new questions about if there was a rush to judgment. live reports ahead. also indictments and a guilty plea. three former allies of new jersey's governor accused of causing a traffic nightmare. plus there's a brand new royal baby. the duchess of cambridge delivers her second child, but was it a boy or a girl?