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learned that i heard about but also -- important to note mother's day is coming up. while i didn't learn about that today i it's very important. >> you have been reminded. >> happy mother's day. >> jeffrey saks' take down of the clinton global initiative absolutely shocking. i'm sure that will be making news today. have a great weekend. thanks so much for being with us. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around, "the rundown" starts right now. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart and we begin with breaking news on "the rundown." just an hour from now attorney general loretta lynch is expected to announce the justice department is launching a full-scale civil rights investigation into the baltimore police department. it comes just days after lynch traveled to baltimore and said the city had become well a symbol of the mistrust that exists between police and communities around the country. the mayor asked for the investigation on wednesday and the attorney general had suggested she was leaning that way. the justice department is already investigating freddie gray's arrest which was caught on camera and it's looking into
whether his rights were violated by any or all of the six police officers charged in his death. gray died of injuries sustained while he was in police custody last month. i want to bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. pete, good morning. >> jose, no surprise here. the attorney general had pretty much indicated she was going to approve this. the justice department almost never says no to a request for such an investigation when it comes from a mayor or police chief, they've had the authority to do these kinds of investigations under federal law since basically the mid-'90s. in all that time there are very few cases where they say no when a request comes from a top city official. this was more or less a foregone conclusion. in a sense the justice department has a bit of a head start here because they've already been doing a different kind of investigation, a cooperative investigation with authorities in baltimore so they're well acquainted with the police department. now they have the full authority to go in and ask questions, do
more digging, come up with more information the end game here will be either -- to make recommendations to the police department and if the police for any reason choose not to fol lowe them, the justice department can go to court and seek to legally enforce the changes that they suggest. >> pete williams thank you so much. we'll have more from pete throughout the show today. i want to bring in msnbc's anna maurice who was at the mayor's press conference. adam riess, good morning. how important was this in getting the investigation going? >> i think the mayor wanted to make a change a change in culture, in trust, transparency. the relations between the police on the beat and the people on the street have been awful. there have been almost six million dollars in fines paid out by the city in terms of police misconduct. the mayor is on board, the police commissioner is on board and the union is on board. everybody is on board. the mayor wants police body
cameras to begin by the end of the year. something needed to be done in baltimore to regain trust between the police on the street and the residents and i think this is the move the right direction, jose. >> adam riess, thank you. we're also keeping a close eye on this story throughout "the rundown." we'll bring you that announcement as soon as it happens. we're following two major and potentially dangerous weather events. first, the threat of more destructive storms in the nation's mid-section with up to 16 million people at risk. and second nearly a month ahead of the start of the atlantic hurricane season the first named system has formed off the carolina coast. let's start in the plains where forecasters are predicting another bout of severe storms today and tomorrow as residents clean up after already enduring two days of destructive storms. >> got a load of shop tools to get out of there and get under my shed and get them in to dry. we're trying to do what needs to
be done. >> several tornados were reported across texas yesterday. this is video of one of them sweeping across denton county. we've learned a 42-year-old woman drowned in an underground storm shelter after a tornado tore through oklahoma city on wednesday. nbc meteorologist bail karins is tracking the storms right now. but we start with nbc meteorologist dylan drier live on the ground in oklahoma. dylan, how are things looking right now? >> jose yesterday we didn't have severe storms in oklahoma they were down into texas but it's time to assess the damage and you can see this home here a brick house completely demolished because of the storms from wednesday night. it's time to talk about the stories of survival because those are the amazing stories you hear about. but you just pointed out those storm shelters and they can be dangerous. the family that lives here is a family of five with three little kids who went into their storm shelter at the height of the storms which is what you should do.
however, what happened was the storm door closed and then debris fell on top of the door itself trapping the family inside their own storm shelter. water started rushing in gas leak -- within this garage gas started rushing in. thankfully a neighbor came and rescued the family. they are totally safe at this time. that's another one of the dangers of these storm doors. now we are looking for another round of severe storms in this exact area to develop later today and again on saturday before it moves east into the midwest as we go into sunday. but you'll hear a lot of stories like this come up. thankfully we're not hearing a lot about deaths it's more just the destruction and now the people that need to clean up all of this mess. jose? >> dylan dreyer thank you very much. i want to bring in bill karins. bill, good morning. the areas of the plains are really at risk again, right? >> it's a good reason why people have those tornado shelters in their backyards or garage like you saw there. for a lot of us that live other places in the country it as hard
to picture even having the mind set of having a shelter like that in our houses for days like today but we'll need them today and tomorrow and unfortunately i'd be surprised if we don't get construction from tornados over the next two days. today's area of greatest risk you can almost circle the state of oklahoma. unfortunately right where dylan was standing is on the edge of this moderate risk of severe weather and tornados will be a threat there and other areas towards wichita falls later today. i expect a few strong tornados. they'll likely form somewhere between lubbock and abilene and head to the north-northeast. they could start as early as 2:00 or 3:00 so when the kids are getting out of school it's so a difficult situation. i wouldn't doubt if school districts get the kids out for half days to make sure they're safe at home with their families. on saturday, 22 million people at risk. this will probably be the worst severe weather outbreak of the season. thankfully for the people on i-35 including wichita, oklahoma and dallas, the threat has shifted further there towards the west where the worst of it jose, is going to miss
the big cities. doesn't mean they're out of the woods but the biggest tornados should be just to the east. also on mother's day we'll see more severe weather but it's not looking as bad for tornados again. it won't be fun if you get wind damage and large hail. >> quickly, subtropical storm ana is churning off south carolina's coast. >> this is more for the history books. this looks -- if you want to call it pathetic or whatever you want to call it it barely deserves a name at this point. as we go towards the weekend, it's supposed to drift towards south carolina. i'm sure the people in coastal south carolina and north carolina aren't thrilled. it will ruin their weekend. they're telling everybody to stay off the beaches so mother's day weekend will be ruined by i expect very little in the way of any damage or more than rip current threats with that jose. so if we're going to get a first named system hitting the u.s. you want one like this. >> good news. bill, thanks i know you'll be keeping a close eye on the situation for us throughout the morning. keep it t here on "the rundown" for new updates on the severe weather as we get them.
we have breaking news on the job front. the national unemployment rate has hit a seven-year low. moments ago the labor department said 232323,000 jobs were added in line with expectations and the unemployment rate inched down to 5.4%, the lowest since may of 2008. it's a different picture when you break it down by demographics. african-americans 9.6% latinos 6.9% whites 4.7% asians 4.4%. let me bring in cnbc contributor ron insana'a. rob is the jobs market on track? >> it's been on track for quite some time. the average monthly gains at 192,000 over the last quarter or so are a little less than what we need to really accelerate. but when you look at the number of jobs createds since the bottom of the recession we've gotten everything back that was lost and then some. the dispersion of gains is quite broad -- i should say quite
narrow. whites and asians doing considerably better than other minority groups. but by and large the economy is doing all right. this number was a little better than expectations. march was revised downward from a gain of 126,000 to 85,000. wage gains were subdue sod not as robust as some would like. >> ron, thank you. appreciate your time. coming up later in this hour we'll go to the white house to talk with president obama's top economic advisor about these new jobs reports. but we're just getting started on this jam-packed friday edition of "the rundown." much more on our top story. breaking news coming out of the justice department less than an hour from now. attorney general loretta lynch is expected to officially launch a federal probe of the baltimore police department. plus from her immigration push to those super pac dollars, hillary clinton's national political director amanda renteria will join me on set in south florida. 29 electoral votes president obama claimed in 2012 by less than one percentage point.
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new jersey governor chris christie is in new hampshire for a second day attempting a 2016 reset. the potential gop presidential candidate meeting with voters amid falling poll numbers and growing skepticism about his candidacy in light of those bridgegate indictments. this morning he's making headlines for a major departure he's making from most other republicans when it comes to climate change. >> on global warming, i think global warming is real i don't think that's deniable. and i do think that human activity contributes to it.
now, the degree to which it contributes to it is what we need to have a discussion about. >> and with me now is msnbc political correspondent casekasie hunt. k kasie, this isn't something you typically hear from a republican. >> that's right and i think that tells you how chris christie positions himself in this race. jeb bush has also been in new hampshire and talked about climate change in a way that drew praise from tom stier, the environmentalist who's given millions to democrats. but it's interesting that's how he's positioning himself. we'll also want to watch him on other issues. christy y kris was campaigning at joey's diner. i asked him about immigration, whether or not he thinks undocumented immigrants should have a path to legal status if not citizenship. he wouldn't go so far as to sady that that's what should happen
although there are some in the republican field who will do that. he did say there's no way people will self-deport. so that's a departure from some of the language republican candidates used in 2012 but it's not clear where exactly he stands on that immigration issue. now, of course we can't forget this is his first swing through new hampshire after those indictments came down in the scandal involving the lane closures on the george washington bridge. so that is something that's followed him up here a little bit. we talked to him about it yesterday yesterday. take a listen. >> how can americans trust a christie white house wouldn't end up facing indictments? >> you know it's such a silly question i won't even answer it. 15 months later exactly what i said in january of 2014 has turned out to be at least according to all three of the investigations that have now occurred to be what happened. the justice system will take its course with the people who the united states attorney's office believe are responsible for the incident. i'm not one of those people nor is any other member of my senior staff.
and despite all the speculation and all the rest. >> silly question or not, i do think trust is something that is a real question for christie here in new hampshire. it's pretty clear that regardless of these indictments he's going to work hard in new hampshire. he's here this week and has another trip planned next week and the week after. that he's doing town halls, taking questions but i think ultimately it's going to be a question of whether or not his brand as a politician who tells it like it is gives it to you straight, you always know where he stands conflicts with this idea that behind the scenes his people are doing things that even he doesn't know about that are going on in a way that make americans uncomfortable with the way things are being governed. jose? >> kasie hunt thank you. on the other side of the spectrum, hillary clinton is continuing a fund-raising swing out west for her 2016 presidential campaign. she raked in millions last night during a private get together at the l.a. home of a top
supporter. this week we learned clinton will personally help raise money for the priorities usa super pac, it's the first time a democrat has fully'm graced this type of group that can accept unlimited funds. a new poll shows iowa and clinton doing very well. she's running away from the democratic field in next years caucuses, but challengers on the right are hammering away at her big move tuesday on immigration and with me in south florida is amanda renteria national political director for the hillary campaign. >> thank you for having me here. >> let's start with this. the campaign has to be worried, i presume, about the fact that some in the latino community fear politicians talk a lot about immigration but never really deliver. >> and we're going to have to prove that we're going to deliver and i look forward to doing that. but you have to go back to what have people done. seeing the work that she did on the border back in 1972 in texas, registering voters
seeing the work she's done in the community through her church when she was younger, those things matter and we'll talk about those so people have a sense who have she is, not just what she's doing. >> as she changed? has she involved? reremember last summer the exodus of unaccompanied minors that came over the border she said at the time she felt they should all be deported no ifs, ands, or buts. has she changed or is she simply part of that policy? >> she's talked a lot about clarifying that and making sure that when the kids come here they have representation in the courts, a lot of these kids when they come here there's no representation so one of the things we're talking about looking at is how do you make sure everyone in the courts have representation when they get here? and what do we do to make sure to take care of all kids and families when they arrive? and you'll see her talk about that as well when she gets asked that question. >> one of the issues we have seen, indeed, that when these unaccompanied children deal with their status in front of a court, if they're not represented odds are they'll be
deported and they don't get the opportunity to even give their side of the story. >> that's right. >> it's happening everyday. >> that's right. that's right. and we're going to take a look at that and figure out how do you help in those moments? that's the tone not just of the campaign but how she is. let's look at the problems and figure out how to solve them together and figure out what we do. >> we mentioned the super pac and hillary clinton. how does this not fly in the face of what she's been saying even since she announced that we have to get big money out of politics. >> and we do and she'll say that again and again. but you need to be in a position to do that. >> how do you say i'm against it if i have to be in a position to do it? >> you can't unilaterally disarm, the reality, right? right now we here in a situation where this is the reality of politics and you have to get in that position in order to make those changes and i think the american public gets that. we'll continue to talk about it and if people need more clarification we're happy to do it. but the reality is you have to be in the position to make these
changes and that's what her vision is when she gets into the position is to figure out a way, how do we get big money out of really billionaire having more of a say than the average voter. >> i want to talk to you about -- you're here in south florida and welcome to our studio, by the way. this, as you know, is the backyard of jeb bush and marco rubio how important is florida and how do you deal with the pocket that maybe one of those two gentlemen could be the republican nominee and florida would be up for grabs. >> well we look forward to being here. i look forward to being here but you have to earn every single vote and we know that no matter who we're going to run against. so you'll see us here now, we'll continue to be here but we have to invest first in our primary states, we have to earn that. then we'll make sure we're wherever in all the different states looking at what's going on. there's a lot of candidates coming from florida so we'll be here a bit.
>> florida is a pretty important state, wouldn't you agree? >> yi it is. yes, it is. and it's great to be here. we've been on the ground for a couple days talking to a lot of folks and we'll keep doing that. >> amanda, one of the things the secretary has not done a lot of is meeting with people like me just general -- i know she's focused and it's a rollout. but do you see her coming out with policy positions like she did on immigration in the near future on other issues of importance to america? >> absolutely. absolutely. but you know jose it has to come from talking with people at the table. that's the important aspect of it and i think that's what she's focused on right now. we want to have a discussion and i don't know if you were there or you got to see nevada but the idea of having dreamers tell their own story, that's incredibly important. >> and different in the sense that it was much less filtered than the other ones that you guys have had where they've been brought in and specifically this
chosen to speak to her. these were people who have a stake in the discussion. >> yeah. and thanks for noticing, is we let these students tell these stories, their dreams their hopes and she's heading light on it but having that kind of discussion. >> it's important. amanda, thank you for being with me, so nice to see you. the cool thing is you're here in english on friday and here with me on sunday in spanish. >> speak[ speaking spanish ] >> thanks for being with me. we'll zoom through other top stories including a huge win for dreamers in arizona. plus, it's a friendly crowd for tom brady as jim gray blitzed the star quarterback with questions about deflategate. we'll show you how brady responded right here on "the rundown."
hour. a major announcement expected on a federal probe of the baltimore police department. we'll carry that event live. but let's talk about other news. a win for dreamers in arizona. the state's board of regents deciding it was, well time to grant in-state tuition to students who qualified under the 2012 daca program. the decision will exspend a lower tuition cost at the state's three public universities. it comes after a superior court judge ruling earlier this week that community college students with work visas under daca were eligible for in-state tuition. up next new developments on the terror front following word that the fbi sent a bulletin to police in garland, texas, just hours before sunday's attack. and check out the scene 70 years ago today. victory day, marking the end of world war ii. we're live with a special look from the world war ii memorial. but first, where would the world be without moms?
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developing news on the terror front. fbi director james comey and homeland security secretary jeh johnson have become so concerned about the threat of home groungrown terrorism that they're talking directly to the nation's police in a secured video conference today. it follows word that the fbi had sent a bulletin to garland police regarding gunman elton simpson just hours before sunday's attack but the feds only knew he was interested in the event, not that he would attack it. underscoring how tough it is to track threats like this. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams has more. >> reporter: the fbi says the texas plot is dramatic proof of the power of isis propaganda through social media.
fbi director james comey says flatly "i know there are other elton simpsons out there." the isis message, he says is relentless, urging followers to stage attacks. "it's almost as if there is a devil sitting on the shoulder saying kill kill kill all day long" comey says. congress is worried, too, about social media as a powerful recruiting tool. >> if you have an interest in jihadism you can find other people who are interested in that very easily very quickly and you can establish relationships with them. >> reporter: comey disclosed that just three hours before sunday's attack in garland, texas, the fbi sent police there a bulletin with elton simpson's picture and car license number shortly after learning he expressed interest in going there. but comey says the fbi had no reason to believe he wanted to attack it or even that he had left phoenix and there's no indication the fbi says that the officer who ended up shooting simpson and the other gunmen nadir soofi, ever saw that bulletin. garland police declined to say
what they did in response to the information, but insist they had no warning of any planned attack. >> joining me now is msnbc contributor and washington editor at large for the "atlantic" steve clement. steve, good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> the fbi says there are hundreds or even thousands of isis followers in the united states? >> it's very much like the idea that there are these manchurian candidates embedded in our society that basically tweeters from isis are able to trigger and activate. that's the impression james comey gave yesterday. it's a very depressing one because, you know even though it's really impressive that the fbi actually gave an alert about simpson, it's less impressive that they didn't take action. but they knew he's out there and he said there are many others out there he doesn't know. >> yeah. and it's interesting because they thought oh he's probably going to go over there. but it's not even in their thought that he's probably going to attack you know what i mean? >> exactly.
i think one of the things we'll have to struggle with here -- we just had a big court case at a federal appeals level voting the metadata program of the national security agency in the united states is not authorized by the patriot act. that's one of the tools the fbi and other intelligence agencies use to look at the patterns of interaction of some of these people about whom they're concerned so we don't know if that program will go away or be authorized but it brings to a point what are the tools that you have to discriminate between someone you're watching and warning there's an imminent attack? and this they didn't go that extra step in this case and perhaps they should have. >> i want to ask you about reports of the al qaeda leader who said he's behind the "charlie hebdo" attacks. how big a blow is this? >> a very big blow to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, al-ansi was someone who spent a lot of time. >> he and his son were killed in a drone attack in a port town in yemen. he was a major strategist.
like many many ways the folks on the long march with mao, there are certain people who had a relationship with osama bin laden and he was one. he was on the list of high targets for the united states. it's interesting to know the u.s. government has begun to issue names of isis leaders and putting dauntbounties iesbounties on their head. this was one that's been on the target list for a long time. >> see the clemm monos, thanks for being with us. the cleveland cavaliers may be winning on the court but off the court they're under fire. a promotional video makes light of domestic violence and it's being called insensitive. i tamron hall reports. ♪ now i had the time of my life ♪ >> it's our song! >> reporter: the video starts off sweet. a couple dancing to "time of my life" from the '80s classic
"dirty dancing." once the girlfriend reveals she's a chicago bulls fan, things get nasty. running in for the leap, instead of catching her the boyfriend slams to the ground. >> bulls fan? i didn't know you were a bulls fan. >> reporter: later she's seen with a bag of ice on her head. >> i thought you were all in. >> well i'm all in now, let's just watch the game. >> go cavs! >> the video shown during the cavaliers playoff game against the chicago bulls on wednesday parodies a united health care commercial where the couple accidentally falls after attempting the same leap -- a very different take. backlash to the cavs' video was instant calling it tone deaf and awful. fans asking "if theif the video was even necessary and have they lost their mind. >> the reaction has universally been what were they thinking? >> in a statement thursday the cavaliers said the video was not
intended to be offensive admitting it was a mistake to include content that made light of domestic violence. the video comes during a troubling time for professional sports, the nfl still reeling from ray rice's elevator abuse scandal, boxing coming off the biggest fight in years still under fire over floyd mayweather's 2010 domestic violence incident with his then-girlfriend. mayweather said she was on drugs and he was restraining her at the time of the incident allegations she disputes. >> it would have been out of bounds at any time but given everything that's happened within the last year domestic violence is not something you joke about. >> nbc's cameron hall thanks. the cavaliers video you saw has been deleted from the internet, no disciplinary action has been taken as a result developing now, the deflategate controversy looming large over the new england patriots as we hear from the man at the center of that bombshell report. quarter back tom brady.
he's deflecting allegations he knew anything about the altering of game footballs. nbc's peter alexander has more. >> reporter: for tom brady, this packed college arena just outside boston may as well have been his super bowl victory rally. >> has this, however detracted from your joy of winning the super bowl? >> absolutely not. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: but brady declined to discuss his thoughts about the 240 page deplate ingate report. >> i haven't had much time to digest it fully but when i do i'll let you know how i feel about it. >> are you that slow a reader? [ laughter ] >> well, my athletic career was better than my academic career. i'm used to reading xs and os. this was a little bit longer. >> brady's appearance scheduled before the report was heavily restricted with cameras only
allowed to record the first ten minutes of his remarks. the moderator, jim gray. >> there is an elephant in the room. >> where? [ laughter ] >> you may be the only one who doesn't see it. >> is trabt's legacy tainted? >> absolutely not. not to me. >> still, brady's long-time agent is vehemently defending the reigning super bowl mvp. in a statement thursday blasting the wells report as a significant and terrible disappointment accusing independent investigators of leaving out key facts and key portions of brady's testimony. the question now facing the nfl, what, if any, punishment will brady face? commissioner roger goodell vows the league will protect the integrity of the game. brady is facing criticism for refusing to turn over his phone with the league policy dictating failure to cooperate in a investigation is subject to discipline. >> he's choosing a finding of conduct detriment toole the league by not cooperating over cooperating and who knows what they would have found in his
text messages or e-mail. >> reporter: weighing in on the dan patrick show the reporter who broke the story. >> if tom brady is not suspended, i think it will be another black eye for the league. >> reporter: over night as brady headed over on a private helicoptering, social media sounded off. >> tom is delusional and wrong and another what a cheater but one avid fan added "brady is innocent." >> nbc's peter alexander reporting. coming up attorney general loretta lynch's live announcement on the baltimore police department. and check out the dow jones industrial average. it's up, i'm told about 200 points. there you go. almost 220. there you go! apparently it likes what it sees as far as the jobs report. the president's top economic advisor joins me after the break on "the rundown." here at friskies, cats are in charge of approving every new recipe. because it's cats who know best what cats like to eat. up today, new friskies 7. we're trying seven cat-favorite flavors all in one dish.
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the job market. the nation's unemployment rate is now at a seven-year low. 5.4%. the numbers out just in the past hour. wall street applauding these new numbers. there you see the opening bell and the dow right now was just a few seconds ago it was up about 220, it's now up to 231. the labor department also says 223,000 jobs were added last month, much better than the dismal numbers from march which today were revised down to just 85,000 jobs added. some segments of the population are doing better than others. african-americans and latinos are still trailing the national average. up next, the president's top economic advisor on the strong jobs report. also, you're looking at the -- there you see the white house and we're also waiting from the justice department that's the justice department indoors, where attorney general loretta lynch will be speaking shortly. we'll take you inside that event next on "the rundown." (music)
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back to our breaking news coming out of the justice department. we're moments away from a state by attorney general loretta lynch on the investigation of the baltimore police department. i want to bring back nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. that will be coming up later on but we're going to go to the white house and one of the things that we've been talking about is the strong economic numbers that we got this morning from the white house. i want to bring in jason fuhrman, chairman of the white house council of economic advisors. jason, good morning. >> morning. >> so really good numbers out today. slightly higher than expected. is this the contrast to what happened in march? i mean how do we describe what happened in march? >> look, i think these numbers bounce around a lot from month to month so i try to look at the trend the last 12 months. three million jobs. i think you're right that part
of what we saw in april was a bounceback from the bad weather in march. you saw construction jobs unusually high in april after they fell in march. the bigger part of the story is just that this recovery continues to make substantial progress continues to move ahead. >> and jason, where was the strong movement, the positive movement seen? >> it was broad-based. there were some sectors like construction that bounced back but you saw professional jobs added, is manufacturing job growth was positive. we'd be happy to see even faster growth in that area. and a range of other sectors, health care for example. >> real unemployment rate something called the real unemployment rate is actually pretty high that includes the people who have given up their job search or settled for park time work. that's 10.8%. how will that be tackled? >> we're trying to tackle that
by investing in structure, by relieving the sequester to make sure we don't go back to unnecessary austerity or the types of fiscal brinksmanship that held the economy back a few years ago. but the other thing i would point out is we've made a lot of progress. that measure of unemployment you're talking about, the broader measure has fallen faster than the official unemployment rate over the last year as all the jobs we're creating are full-time jobs. as measures like long-term unemployment are coming down fast every. so we really are seeing a broad-based healing in the labor market. we're not all the way there yet but we're getting closer. >> and jason a couple of hours president obama will be at nike headquarters in oregon. he's going to be talking among other things about his efforts to reach a new tpp, the transpacific trade agreement. who will benefit from that? >> americans will. american workers, american
consumers, is american small businesses will all benefit. the reason is that the united states is already a very open economy, we have very low tariffs as it is so a lot of what tariffs as it is. a lot of what this agreement is doing is opening up markets abroad, and that's why nike says it will be able to create more jobs here in the united states if the transpacific partnership goes through. >> yeah jason, you've heard it and we've talked about it on the program a lot, some in the democratic party are saying the tpp would really kind of increase the shipping of jobs overseas. >> that's not something that the president would do. that's not an agreement that he would reach. this agreement is going to have unprecedented labor environmental standards, which will help prevent that from happening, but you know what when the agreement is done people will have 60 days they can read it they can form a
judgment on that question what the president's asking for is given the instructions he needs to go out and negotiate the best possible deal he's going to bring back something that's good for workers and people can take the time read it, and learn about it. >> jason, always a pleasure to see you. good economic numbers out today. thanks so much. >> nice day, thank you. >> take care. back to our breaking news coming out of the justice department, moments away from a statement by attorney general loretta lynch on the investigation of the baltimore police department. i want to bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber. good morning. >> good morning. >> also with me howard henderson. gentlemen, let's start with you, ari, this announcement today is coming as a consequence as the mayor's action or was this going on before? >> that's a good question. patterns and views they deem to
have wider problems so not one or two individual mistakes but some larger practice, hence the name, of abuse, of excessive force, of allegations they want to review. that can come independently or in collaboration with the police department, in this instance the mayor did request it which makes it expected the attorney general would go forward rather than hold back. they did one in ferguson where it's fair to say the local police department was not as interested, although they did cooperate and turnover materials. this is under the '94 violent crime act, which gives them a right to look broadly at how a police department is functioning. jose? >> howard talk to me about is there a pattern there in baltimore? >> in baltimore the mayor had already requested an oversight from the justice department months before this incident occurred. yes, there is a pattern, we think, and the attorney general spoke to a group of us a few
days ago and pledged her support to take a good hard look at it she had had people on the ground here in baltimore, so when the mayor made that request, we were very pleased she has accepted it and is moving forward. >> and ari, when this investigation begins what's the process? >> the process typically is that investigators from the civil rights division of the justice department who focus on this and specialize on this will work with the management of the police department, down into the ranks. they will sometimes view voluminous materials. they can also go along and do ride alongs they can conduct their own investigation, they can review internal documents. let me give you one set of numbers, jose that's come up in this discussion. there's 610,000 people in baltimore. there were 120,000 police stops in one year. a lot of people are asking why so many stops, who's being stopped, how is that policing
working, and if you're stopping overwhelmingly innocent people people never charged, are you overdoing it and then you go into the questions that have to be investigated. when the investigations look at are you stopping certain kind of people. >> go ahead, howard. >> jose we should not give the citizens of baltimore false hope. this is going to be a long process. there are certain steps of the american do in the short-term to bring back citizen confidence. we need to really go ahead and put body cameras on our policemen. that can be done overnight. we need to go ahead and allocate those dollars, so there's no excuse for us not to afford that. secondly we need to go ahead and start the retraining of our policemen on how to deal with our citizens. we shouldn't wait for a report to come out.
>> i would echo howard's point. i don't think anyone thinks that a federal review however necessary, and i think people always say what happens after the attention, what happens after the protest, well, this is a federal review that could be constructive, but not a substitute for local leadership and governance certainly. >> and we feel very confident she will take these steps in the near future and in the short term. i think that it's important that the citizens of baltimore understand that we have an administration who really cares about them and we think that she will make all the right decisions and moves going forward. >> howard henderson, ari melber thank you for being with me. moments away from that announcement on the baltimore police investigation. we'll be back with loretta lynch live on "the rundown".
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there you see the podium set up. she's expected to announce her department is launching a full scale civil rights investigation into the baltimore police force, which came under national scrutiny following the death of freddie gray nearly a month ago. i'm going to bring in msnbc chief justice correspondent ari melber adam reese seema ayer thank you all for being with me. i want to start with ari melber. how widespread is this going to be? >> as the justice department determines, loretta lynch expected to come out any moment and what she's going to announce is basically they are going to proceed on something the mayor of baltimore says she welcomes, a civil rights review of the entire police department management decisions, policy level choices, it could include looking at the funding, looking at how this police department functioning, why it makes the resources and decisions that it does, or it could go all the way
down to the officer level, how are people enforcing these stops we were talking about before the break, are there mistakes happening seen as structural or sometimes called a culture, or it's possible we should be clear are there not as many mistakes as people believe, the bpd chief said the police involved vinyl shootings are down although the community doesn't feel it. >> seema, this is something we've seen now happen in a number of communities. >> correct, jose. we have. and usually, unfortunately, we see that problems do exist and these type of doj investigations do bring these issues to light, which in turn will call for some type of reform. as ari was saying it could be high level broad scope policy but it could go all the way down to basic officer training in terms of on the streets, stop and frisk, pulling people over in the car, predicate for stops,
fourth amendment issues expands from training also to education, jose. it's important that these officers understand the underlying principles of the law that allows them to stop citizens on the streets. >> and howard i mean this is something that you're saying needs to be happening already, regardless of what the justice department does or doesn't do. >> quite correct, jose. it's a great need that we have in this study and exercise by the attorney general, but the citizens of baltimore understands that there is a problem with our police department. the mayor called for a review prior to this. there are certain steps we need to take immediately and we need to take those steps immediately. we also need to talk about the mental health of our police officers. they need to check their mental health status because there has to be a reason we are having these kind of problems on a regular basis in our city.
when i'm traveling the city and best way to get information in a community sometimes is in the barber shop when you're hearing young men talk about how they have been treated on the street it's in general conversation in their relationship with the police department, there is a problem in baltimore, and we understand there's a problem and we need to take immediate steps to make those corrections. >> jose i would raise one other point as we look at this and i know we're waiting for the attorney general to come out any moment, there were leaks again this week from baltimore police sources saying that their internal investigation in the gray matter would have led to lower charges than the prosecutors. take a step back and think about that, it's not a surprise if you cynically think when people investigate themselves they are not very tough on themselves but if you think about structurally what that means, right, it's problematic now that the wheels of justice are turning and there's going to be a prosecution and there's going
to be a day in court for these officers, it's problematic some folks on the police and i want to be clear, not all, because it wasn't an on the record leak but some forces in bpd are trying to put out information from their investigation to defend certain officers so they are acting more like defense attorneys than an arm of the prosecutors, which is of course what they usually do when nonpolice defendants are involved. that's the kind of question they can also look at. why are folks at bpd leaking stuff that might interfere with the ongoing prosecution. >> adam reese, let's talk about that. the fact is these issues should not be being brought out to public, yet you see leaks. over and over again, not just in this freddie gray investigation, but throughout other incidents, as well. >> i want to point out, this isn't just in baltimore. the civil rights division has looked into 20 different cities most recently ferguson a seven-month investigation in ferguson. this is a full civil rights
investigation, bias, profiling, excessive force, so this is a full scale investigation. it could take up to a year or more. you'll have department of justice investigators in the police department, but the commissioner, the mayor, the governor, even the union all onboard. jose? >> interesting, and seema, let's talk about what needs to happen for communityies to feel as though they are finally being taken into consideration and their frustrations are being heard. >> great question jose. from my own experience asking people in the courthouse what would you need if you were in this situation, and it's really having officers come to the communities and having these town hall type of meetings but instead of lecturing, making it more one on one, getting down to someone's level and saying what do you need to feel safe and to trust me.
and that is the problem that we see in baltimore, because we see these problems all over the country and nothing is working, because nobody's talking to each other. just implementing these policies without actually getting down on the ground looking at someone in their face going to families going into lower income housing areas and allowing other people to feel trust, and nothing seems to be working, so that's my only solution at this point. >> jose i would add on to that we've had a lot of talk about "the wire," which is a show based on real issues in baltimore. one of the real issues that is not about individual officers making mistakes but is about politicians and mayors was the heavy emphasis on what they call comp stat or city stat numbers-based policing. that can work very well when done correctly. it can also work very perniciously when you tell
people we need a certain number of stops and arrests in a neighborhood, regardless of how many crimes occur, then your line officer who's trying to do a good job, and most officers are not charged with anything your line officer's saying well i have to find x number of stops and crimes whether or not it's happening. maybe no one's committing a crime for whatever reason that day, yet you have a politician-based policy that's pushing people. so that's something the doj can look at that most local pds are less equipped to do. >> howard you want to say something? >> i wanted to say something, jose. the problem is much greater than just the policing. if we don't invest in these communities, we're going to constantly come back to the table and talk about similar kind of things going on. there has to be a structural investment to rebuilding these communities and we have to invest in the education and employment in those communities, we have to invest in the well
being of the communities, so many issues and unemployment that are facing those sectors of our city. winchester is only one sector of our city. we have many pockets in our city. ferguson was a city about 21,000. baltimore is a city of 600,000 something people issues are much greater. it's going to take more investment. we were very pleased to have the president -- go ahead. >> sorry to interrupt you, by the way, i'm going to have to interrupt all of you when the -- >> i wanted to say this before you interrupt me we were pleased that the president has allocated all his departments to come into baltimore, education, i met with the education secretary, secretary of labor, to look at how they can do some immediate investment in baltimore and rebuilding these communities. if you get a chance jose before you cut me off, i want you to look at our state of black baltimore book released
prior to mr. gray's passing that talks about still separate still unequal. this is all the problems facing baltimore city. major investment and a change of philosophy on how we do things in the city going forward. >> you know what howard i'm going to ask you for a copy of that book because i'm looking forward to reading it i really am. i will only interrupt you when the attorney general comes out to speak, which could be any second now. ari, you want to say something? >> jose you can interrupt me if you need to. >> i'm going to interrupt anybody for loretta lynch. >> i want to build on what howard was saying. the policing here is one component, but the other components are jobs education, housing. without a job, without a house, without education, we're not getting anywhere in these communities. job is number one. these people need jobs. they need homes. the areas where we were north and pennsylvania these homes
need to be rebuilt. this is necessary before we can move on. policing is just one component of it. >> howard -- go ahead, seema, i'm sorry. >> i want to add to what adam is saying, because i spent a lot of time in schools in lower income areas and i think education is a huge component of this. in that the policing starts with smaller children and younger children are brought up to realize that the police are there to help them and to work with them and it's not this us against them mentality. >> seema, toif interrupt you, so sorry. here's the attorney general. >> all right, good morning, everyone. thank you all for being here. i'm joined today by the head of the department civil rights division and director ron davis of the community oriented policing services office or
c.o.p.s. as we all know as we've all seen, over the past few days and weeks we have watched as baltimore struggles with issues that face cities across our country today. we have seen the tragic loss of a young man's life. we have seen a peaceful protest movement called up to express the concern of a beleaguered community. we have seen brave officers upholding the right to peaceful protest, while also sustaining serious injuries themselves during the city's unfortunate foray into violence and we have watched it all through the prism of one of the most challenging issues of our time the issue of police-community relations. when i traveled to baltimore earlier this week i had an opportunity to see the significant work that the city and the police department had done with the c.o.p.s. office through a collaborative reform process, but despite the progress being made it was clear that recent events including the tragic in-custody death of mr. freddie gray had
given rise to a serious erosion of public trust. in order to address this issue, i've been asked by city officials and community leaders to augment our approach to the situation with a court enforcement model. i've spent the last few days with my team considering which of the justice department's tools for police reform best meets the current needs of the baltimore police department and the broader baltimore community. today, the department of justice is opening an investigation into whether the baltimore police department has engaged in a pattern or practice of violations of the constitution or federal law. this investigation will begin immediately and will focus on allegations that baltimore police department officers used excessive force, including deadly force, conduct unlawful searches seizures and arrest and engaged in discriminatory policing. the c.o.p.s. office will continue to work with the baltimore police department and the collaborative reform process
will now convert to the provision of technical assistance to the baltimore police department. now some may ask, how this differs from our current work with baltimore police department and the answer is rather than examining whether the police department violated good policies we will now examine whether they violated the constitution and the community's civil rights. this approach has been welcomed by the baltimore city fraternal order of police and i want to thank them for their support and their partnership as we move forward. now in the coming days civil rights division attorneys and investigators conducting the investigation and the police experts who will assist them will be engaging with community members and with law enforcement. we will examine policies practices, and available data and at the conclusion of our investigation, we will issue a report of our findings. if unconstitutional policies or practices are found, we will seek a court enforceable agreement to address those issues. we will also continue to move
forward to improve policing in baltimore, even as the pattern of practice investigation is under way. our goal is to work with the community, public officials, and law enforcement alike to create a stronger, better baltimore. the department of justice civil rights division has conducted dozen of these pattern of practice investigations to date and we have seen from our work in jurisdictions across the country that communities that have gone through this process are experiencing improved policing practices and increased trust between the police and the community. in fact, i encourage other cities to city our past recommendations and see whether they can be applied in their own communities. ultimately, this process is meant to ensure that officers are being provided with the tools that they need including training policy guidance and equipment, to be more effective, to partner with civilians, and to strengthen public safety.
now for many people across the country, the tragic death of mr. freddie gray and the unfortunate violence that did occur has come to personify the city as if that alone is baltimore, but earlier this week i visited with members of the community who took to the streets in the days following the unrest to pick up trash, to clear away debris and they are baltimore. i visited with elected officials who were determined to help the neighborhoods that they love come back stronger and more united, and they are baltimore. i visited youth leaders who believe that there is a brighter day ahead, and they are baltimore, too. and i also visited with law enforcement officers who had worked up to 16 days without a break, and they were focused, not on themselves or even their own safety but on protecting the people who live in their community. they, too, are baltimore. now, none of us have any illusions that reform is easy.
the challenges that we face and that baltimore faces now did not arise in a day and change will not come overnight. it will take time and sustained effort. but the people that i met in baltimore, from the protesters to the public officials, to the officers including one who had been injured amidst the violence all were saying to me ultimately the same thing, i love my city and i want to make it better. and that is why i'm optimistic about this process. and that's why i am actually hopeful about the days and weeks to come. and that is why i'm confident that as a result of this investigation and the hard work that is still ahead, and make no mistake about it it is hard work, all members of the baltimore community, residents and law enforcement alike, will be able to create a stronger a safer, and a more united city together. thank you for your time and your attention, and this time i'd like to open it up for a few questions. >> part of the requests that
came from the city what have you seen and heard from residents of baltimore that lead you to believe the ongoing justice department review would be needing to be augmented, are the problems deeper than perhaps you initially understood? can you talk about why the justice department believes that the c.o.p.s. work is not sufficient for this. >> certainly. let me say at the outset we believe strongly in the collaborative reform process and it has helped numerous communities and police departments across the country, but for collaborative reform to ultimately be effective, we really need to have that three-part base of support. police engagement elected official engagement and community engagement and the ability to have faith in the process. obviously, you've all seen events change in baltimore and become much more intense over a very, very short period of time and it was clear to a number of people looking at this situation that the community's rather frayed trust, to use an
understatement, was even worse and, in effect been severed in terms of a relationship with the police department so we felt that that was one factor in viewing whether or not we would literally be able to use collaborative reform to actually make the changes that we need. also, as we look more at the issues facing the police department itself in terms of the needs that they have and in terms of the issues the residents were raising, they essentially were much more serious and they were more intense than when we began the collaborative review process, so we felt the best thing to do was to conduct an investigation to see whether or not these issues arose to the level of federal civil rights violations and if so, have the best model in which to address them which in our view is a court-enforcement agreement. >> senator mikulski yesterday talked about a fractured trust, not only in baltimore, and i wonder from your standpoint how
fractured that is nationally. >> we've had a number of situations that highlighted this fracture in various communities, in different parts of the country, cities of all sizes, issues ranging from people being harmed or unfortunate deaths in custody, so i think we see it when it occurs but i think that the issue really goes beyond just the interaction between the police and the community. because we're talking about generations, not only of mistrust, but generations of communities that feel very separated from government overall. and so you're talking about situations where there's a flash point occurrence that coalesces years of frustration and anger. that's what i think you saw in baltimore when there was an unfortunate night of violence and i think you see it in other cities around the country, as well. you can't look at a city and predict what's going to happen. you can't look at a city and analyze it and certainly we're not looking to do that. what we hope though is our
work both through collaborative reform and past investigations, other cities can look at their own environments and decide what issues that they see and whether or not some of the work done in the past can be brought to bear, as well. >> will the department release any findings that folks have found in a review? >> the information is going to be folded into the pattern of practice investigation. typically, however, when we do a collaborative reform effort with the police department that usually does end in a report that is made public because we're now going to fold it into an investigation, we actually will not be having that collaborative reform report. there will be, however, a report at the end of the pattern of practice investigation that will draw on that. >> this violence took place just as you were coming into office. you saw it unfold what was your reaction what do you think? >> well i have to say, i watched it as did most people
through the prism of my television screen and have seen similar incidents across the country and i would have to say my first reaction was profound sadness. it truly was, profound sadness for the loss of life for the erosion of trust, for the sadness and despair that the community was feeling, for the frustrations that i know the police officers were feeling also as they tried to encourage peaceful protests but then had to deal with the violence. i'd say my first reaction was profound sadness. >> the fbi director and the secretary of homeland security are having a teleconference today with the nation's police to talk about this growing concern over isis social media. how much a concern is that for the justice department? >> you know as we look into our national security cases, we have attempted to see which tools those who would seek to do
americans harm utilize, so i think social media is one we've seen be used in cases that result in my old district we've seen social media be used as a recruitment tool getting out information, so it's an area we try to stay on top of but i would say it's part of the things we look at as we try and determine who's essentially trying to do us harm. apologize for not knowing everyone's name right away otherwise i wouldn't be pointing to you in this manner. >> cbs news. the garland police department said they didn't have the information a threat was headed their way. proliferation of the isis individuals here in the united states, how are you guys working to make sure local officials are looped into the threats you identified at the federal level? >> what i can tell you is when information is determined to generate a threat to any police department, we do provide them with as much information as we can. i think in this situation you
saw there was an individual who had come under scrutiny before, but had not been very active in the immediate past, so the information that was provided was probably more limited than the garland police would have liked or would have hoped to have seen but certainly all efforts were made to provide them with information and, in fact, they were tremendously helpful in the results of the case and the results of the shooting that occurred. >> npr, a lot of faiths and localities are looking to you and your department to heal the fractured trust between you and communities. that said you only have so many resources to conduct these reviews and investigations. do you need more attorneys and investigators? do you need the law to be changed?
>> we always ask for increased resources to handle the cases we have and coming down the pike. but to the larger issue raised by your question which is communities looking for help and resources, the department of justice is here to help and we do try to be a resource but the reality is we cannot litigate our way out of this problem and it's not the department's intention to engage in an investigation or review of every police department across the country. it is rather our goal and our profound hope that the work that we have done will be a base for communities to look at and to build upon as they determine what issues exist in their communities. we now have a very solid body of reports, both collaborative reform and pattern of practice investigations, and i will say that one of the things i'm most pleased about over recent years has been the development that many of our investigations are begun very cooperatively in
conjunction with law enforcement and elected officials. they reach out to us for assistance. they are not in the adversarial mode. we do have a few that may result in court action but by and large most of them have been under the environment of working very, very well with police and with community officials. so our hope is that other jurisdictions, cities large and small, can look at these reports and say, are these the issues that i face? what does the justice department see there? what is my police department doing that may look like this or, in fact may be a model for better behavior than this? one of the things we try and do through the c.o.p.s. process before we get to collaborative reform or investigation is pair police departments up with their peers who have had successful work particularly with police-community relations. we have a whole range of services that we try and offer from technical assistance to providing expert advice.
our goal is to be a resource and guide, but not to be the hand reaching in to every police department, because we truly do believe that communities, cities police departments, they know their cities best. they know what those issues and those problems are and we want to help them reach the better solutions. >> eric tucker with the associated press. you know, much has been made about the different racial dynamics when you talk about baltimore city versus ferguson. ferguson you had a police department that had a very few number of minorities obviously, the situation in baltimore is very different. to what extent are you anticipating that the problems in baltimore will be different and perhaps less race based in nature than what we encountered in ferguson? >> i think regardless of the racial and ethnic makeup of every city every city's different, every police department's different and all present different issues. i think that policing is an extremely challenging profession
at this time no matter where you are, and i think that the issues facing baltimore certainly do -- some people express them in racial tones, but people to me were expressing them more in tones of community leaders feeling frustrated feeling pain. police department leaders feeling also frustrated at not being able to protect their city. so there's really a very strong commonality of what i heard in baltimore that crossed races, that crossed professions, that crossed groups so i think every city's different, and i don't want to prejudge or put that particular prism on baltimore or any other city. >> also yesterday asked that police forces be tied to manager training in racial and ethnic fires, is that something you'll actively consider? >> we have a wide range of grant programs that assist state and
local law enforcement and many of those grants are specifically for training purposes. many of them simply provide equipment and do other things so our approach has always been rather than conditioning getting a grant on a particular program, we work with the jurisdiction to really focus on the specific need that they have and then basically give them access to the training that they need because the training for every department is different. but we're always considering ways to make our grant programs more efficient. >> what more should the federal government be doing to deal with isis using social media in unprecedented ways? what more should the federal government be doing? >> well you know i think what i can say at this point is we're certainly using all the tools available to us to determine how social media is being used but as always we have to balance
that with the -- with every individual's right to free speech, with privacy rights those are very very important concerns, so we have to balance that also with making sure what we do does not interfere with the free flow of information for all law-abiding citizens for example, so not able to give you the specific details of what the government is focusing on now, except we are focusing on that as an issue. not a new issue, as i've said before we've seen social media being used in a number of cases and it is an expansion how the internet has been used several years now both in recruitment and radicalization of young people to join terrorist groups. >> one more question. >> who has not asked a question? several hands are up now. >> can you explain to people why they shouldn't be concerned that the federal government was flying surveillance planes over baltimore during the protest? >> well you know i think i did see that report. i think that someone came to me
and said something about, you know were you flying drones over baltimore. i thought, i don't really have any drones but leaving that aside -- not particularly no. no, it's actually not an uncommon practice for police helicopters to fly over to try and figure out where are people moving to or where might violence be breaking out and provide information down to the field. similar to officers on the ground providing surveillance reports, as well so i don't think it was a new occurrence and i think you see that in any number of cities and it was for the purpose of finding out were there pockets of violence and what could be done about that. you have to be the last one. you are? >> just the other day when the mayor was talking about asking you about the investigation, she was also padding a 46% drop in complaints about excessive force, 56% about officers being
discourteous, is that an indication things are getting better, is it a foundation for you, or is that out the window at this point? >> all the data that's been gathered to date will factor into our investigation. it's premature to say what that data means. i think we've all seen situations where you can have numbers that look great, but if you're the person involved in an unfortunate incident for you it feels like it's 100%. we'll be looking at all of those issues and incidents, but we'll be looking at the larger issues of whether or not the police as they work to stop arrests and detain people how they are, in fact implementing their policies. we'll look at excessive force, the use and the guidance that they have and the training they have already, so that will factor into our investigation. it's premature right now to say how it will impact on it. thank you all. >> and we have loretta lynch i want to bring in pastor todd
yearly of the douglas church in baltimore, richard fowler also back with us ari melber and seema iyer. let me start with you, a lot to digest today. >> i think the most important thing that's new that came out of the announcement we heard from loretta lynch is this investigation of baltimore police will have a focus. she said it will focus on allegations of excessive force and deadly force by officers, unlawful searches and discriminatory arrests. that scope can widen or change but that's clearly her reflection of the on the ground work in baltimore, she also said i see a baltimore that's bigger than just these problems citing the work of peaceful protesters volunteers cleaning up garbage, all the honest officers, as well they too are baltimore she said. this was the big investigation announcement, so interesting for those who watch doj in that
respect, as well she mixed her formal authorities and explaining what this investigation was about with i would argue language broader than just the law, talking about what this all means and also saying very clearly, jose she was not going to prejudge this investigation or whether there were any racial components to it. >> seema, she said very clearly the only report out of the doj is at the end of the investigation. >> that is true. and i want to add that the two significant factors that she repeatedly mentioned were one, this was a collaborative effort by the local state police with the doj. i thought that was very important, and the second thing, she was almost putting the rest of the country on notice saying i encourage you to look at what we have done before in these type of pattern and practice investigations. perhaps trying to prevent another baltimore or another ferguson. >> pastor yearly happy with what you heard today? >> well we are hopeful from
what we heard today. it is part of the conversation that we've been having with the attorney general over the last few days. we believe that the pattern of practice investigation is the way to go. one, because it gets us to court-enforceable actions that the police department must begin to implement. one of the challenges about collaborative review is that the recommendations that might be made by the department of justice would not necessarily need to be implemented by the police department. and so there was great concern in the faith community and the civil rights community that we needed something with more teeth. we found anything that needed to be corrected and know there's something there, we wanted the ability to have court enforcement as part of the remedy so we don't find ourselves back in this situation again. >> richard, a lot has to do with people feeling they are being listened to their plight and their difficulties are not just in isolation. >> i think that's the key point to gather from this i think what the attorney general said
clearly here is collaboration is going to be king in this investigation and what happens after this investigation. the part that stood out to me i've got to tell you, jose the idea all these individuals, police officers, your members of the community, your peaceful protesters, you're all baltimore and that's the only way we're going to change baltimore and the nation is by having a conversation and creating new lines of trust and breaking down the old biases in the system before, so i think it's very very well done by her. after 166 days finally something to be excited about. >> also something to point out, the justice department does not own drones. >> she did say that. i got it tell you, though it depends what you mean by the justice department. technically, the fbi legally is under doj, but there's a separate fbi director confirmed they have stuff on the books and off the books where you might look into that and find a different answer. >> we can wrap it up by saying
loretta lynch does not own drones. >> that's fair and accurate jose. >> ari melber todd yearly richard fowler seema iyer, thank you for being with me. pete williams was at that news conference. pete, good morning. >> good morning, jose. this should come as no surprise to anyone, anyone with an official letterhead in the state of maryland endorsed this pattern of practice investigation, so what loretta lynch said is what she has seen from her own experience in baltimore, what she called a serious erosion of public trust in the police department so this pattern and practice investigation will do what they usually do in other communities around the country, they'll look at police use of force, including the use of deadly force. they'll look at police arrest practices, search and seizure, the full pattern, and see whether there is a pattern of racial discrimination in the way police do their jobs. the justice department will have
a bit of a head start because since last fall it's been involved in a cooperative look at how the baltimore police department does its job to see whether that is in conformance with good police policy but for this investigation it's a different question. do the police violate civil rights laws and if the justice department concludes they do then it can go to court to seek enforcement, but i think what she was trying to set as a tone of cooperation, that there are good news stories throughout the community, people in the community that want to work with police, so she's trying to say on the one hand we will have the hammer of a court enforcement, but at the same time want to try to encourage more public cooperation. >> pete another issue that you brought up with her and that was later echoed by other reporters is just what happened as far as in garland, texas, the fbi, the message they did send to authorities. did they do enough? >> yeah i think the big concern
here since this incident is the really sharp picture it focuses on the explosion of isis use of social media, how pervasive it is, how it is really changed how isis reaches out and tries to recruit people. it is of urgent concern here in washington, the fbi director and secretary of homeland security are having a secure telephone conference today with the nation's police to emphasize this concern. it has become a very grave issue for the government. >> pete williams still trying to figure out how i can speak to you one moment from the d.c. bureau of news and then at the justice department asking questions, you just move around the speed of sound. >> whatever it takes. you bet. >> thanks good to see you. developing news right now during the news conference but i want to show you these live pictures from atlanta. this is what we know. take a look at that a small plane has crashed on a highway.
this is about a mile away from the peach tree airport just after takeoff around 10:00 a.m. eastern time. we see affiliate in atlanta is reporting four people are dead. the plane is a pa-32. right now all lanes of i-285 are blocked at the scene. continue to monitor this situation. it is breaking right now just outside of atlanta. there you see the fire officials still hosing down what was i'm told the plane. crashes into this highway. we'll continue to cover this for you and be right back after a short break on "the rundown". boys? stop less. go more. the passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. just one reason volkswagen is the #1 selling
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named storm of the pre-hurricane season sub tropical ana has formed off the carolina coast, but back to the plains. take a look at this incredible video from norman oklahoma it was taken late wednesday. it shows the immense power of the storm blowing over trees in front of a home there. viewer who took this video was safe inside a storm shelter across the street. nbc news meteorologist dylan dreyer is in oklahoma. dylan, good morning. >> reporter: hi, jose. to get here to bridge creek, oklahoma, i flew into dallas-ft. worth airport, i took 35 north to get here and it was a dangerous drive. lightning was so vivid at times it was almost blinding. yesterday was day two of a severe weather outbreak and it's possible that the worst is yet to come. overnight it was texas under the gun. >> that's lifting in there. >> reporter: a line of dangerous storms moved into the dallas area just as i was driving through, reporting for the
weather channel. kind of just pulled off at a gas station along with the rest of texas right now, and it seems like we're all kind of waiting this one out. near denton, a twister generated at least three funnel clouds rotating around the main tornado. >> there you can see the well defined circulation, multiple vortex look at them revolving, that is really nice. >> reporter: there were tornados, high winds, hail and torrential rain, driving into gainesville, texas i was nearly stopped in my tracks by flash floods. but for the most part texas dodged a bullet with no major damage. meanwhile, on thursday oklahoma got a short break from the deadly, violent weather of the last couple of days. >> these storms are not packing quite the punch as they did this time yesterday and that's really good news. >> reporter: but the damage already done is heartbreaking. >> i lost everything. got to start over again. >> reporter: overnight, this video was released shot from inside a shelter during wednesday night's storm. the cleanup is already under
way, in some cases it will take months, but many residents say they are not going anywhere. >> we're going to stay out here. this is our home. if it hits again, it hits again. >> reporter: the survival stories we're hearing across this area are amazing, from wednesday night's storm and some of the storms we saw on thursday. this home here a family of five lived here and the parents and their three little children naturally went into their storm shelter wednesday night when the storms hit, but what's amazing is the door shut debris fell on top of it and the latch trapped them inside their own storm shelter as water and gas was rushing in. fortunately, a neighbor from next door came and rescued the family. they are 100% safe at this time. we are looking for another round of severe storms later on today, then on saturday before the threat moves eastward into the midwest by sunday. jose? >> dylan, thank you very much. and more now on the sub tropical ana swirling off the
carolina coast. the system forming nearly a month ahead of the official start of the atlantic hurricane season. the weather channel's jim cantore is on the coast right now, good morning. >> reporter: jose if you asked me what i would be doing on may 8th certainly would not be covering a tropical system off the north carolina coast. amazing. we have sub tropical storm ana, about 170 mealiles off to the east/southeast. the wave action is huge and this is really the biggest danger from this the wave action through here. we may see some rain breezy conditions as it comes toward the coastline, maybe early as sunday morning, but right now it is stationary, we don't want it to explode, but more of a nuisance and certainly a danger to be in the water. this is just one part of what's going on a busy mother's day weekend. we'll have a snowstorm in the
rockies, severe weather outbreak across the plains states big heat in the east record highs, summer heat, and tropics going on behind me here at the carolina coast. all four seasons in one weekend. unfortunately, it's a mother's day weekend coming up. back to you. >> jim, thank you. now another look at that developing story we told you about a couple of minutes ago, that small plane outside of atlanta went down on a highway a mile from peach tree airport just after takeoff. it happened about 45 minutes ago. our nbc affiliate in atlanta is reporting four people are dead. right now, all lanes of interstate 285 are blocked at the scene and you can still see there that officials are dealing with it. looked like that plane crashed right in the center between the two sides of that highway. once again, our affiliate in atlanta is reporting four people onboard that plane are dead. in the uk a surprising win for prime minister david cameron and his conservative party in
thursday's british elections. cameron will keep his job as prime minister as his party holds on to a majority in the parliament. his primary opponent, ed milli band said it's time for someone else to take the leadership post and he's taking absolute responsibility for his party's loss. i want to show you this dramatic video out of mexico cell phone video showing a mexican soldier flying wildly through the air. look at that then slamming into the ground. this during a military parade in mexico. he was pulled into the air after his rifle got entangled on a gigantic mexican flag. the soldier was lifted almost 100 feet in the air. when he came down he had an ankle fracture and concussion but it could have been a whole lot worse. pretty amazing video, huh? up next a live look at a special ceremony at the world
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70 years ago today america and its allies celebrated the final defeat of hitler and the nazis. today countries are remembering that fateful day. at 9:00 a.m. on the 8th of may, 1945, president eisenhower set off celebrations across the u.s. and europe when he made this announcement. >> this is a solemn but a glorious hour. i only wish that franklin d. roosevelt had lived to witness this day. general eisenhower informs me that the forces of germany have surrendered to the united nations. the flags of freedom fly all over europe. >> that of course was president truman. eisenhower key in the liberation
of europe. this morning secretary of state john kerry and the u.s. ambassador of france remembering this date. ceremonies also held in germany, will be held in russia tomorrow. here in u.s. a commemoration is under way in washington. retired army colonel and recipient of the medal of honor jack jacobs is there, also with me michael beshla. set the scene for us today. >> well you know it's a bright day, people are wearing shorts it's brightly colored blouses and shirts and lots of people here, but despite all of that there's a certain quiet quality about all of this a bit somber too. and i think it's because people in the backs of their minds recognize that victory in europe was won at an enormous cost.
we had more than 1 million causalities, more than 400,000 of whom were killed in action so despite all the celebration, there is a bit of a somber quality, i think as we remember what cost was exacted in order for us to get victory. >> michael, i mean what cost we paid, but the world paid as well. >> we did, and what a greater cost we would have all paid had we lost, because, you know sometimes history seems inevitable, we think those scenes that happened 70 years ago this morning, of those cheering crowds and the royal family on the balcony of buckingham palace with winston churchill that that was all fated to happen but dial back three and a half years to the time of pearl harbor 1941 there were many americans very worried we and our allies might not be able to stand up to the imperial japanese and the nazi germans, and had they won, you can imagine how incalculable
uglier this world would be. >> the elections in the uk overnight, but how devastated and how difficult great britain had a time of in fighting back. i mean there were times they were really really touch and go. >> absolutely. and if you had to sort of replay history, had the british not had the fortitude and the sense of purpose to hold up against the nazis and the blitz in 1940 and 1941, this war might conceivably ended differently. >> colonel, very quickly, what are we expecting for the remainder of the day where you are today? >> well susan rice is going to be speaking and i think what's going to happen at the end of the ceremony i think it's going to end quietly and then people will just leave the area. just with the memory of what it took to get us to this point, one other thing to mention, you know there was some major
inflection points. think about what would have happened, had hitler not declared war on the united states. we might not have come in when we did, and had the battle of britain not taken the turn that it did, we were all very very lucky and we relied very heavily on the sacrifice of lots and lots of people. >> you think of, for example, and we have to wrap it up but you think of the decisions taken by hitler had it been different, had he gone into the soviet union at a different time had he been able to progress much quicker into moscow things may have been different there, as well. so interesting to see how things -- something as minuscule as timing can make such a difference. colonel jack jacobs and michael beschloss, thank you for being with me. today there will be a flyover of the world war ii memorial. and that wraps up "the rundown" on this friday on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. by the way, to all the mothers
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justice is opening an investigation into whether the baltimore police department has engaged in a pattern or practice of violations of the constitution or federal law. this investigation will begin immediately and will focus on allegations that baltimore police department officers used excessive force, including deadly force, conduct unlawful searches, seizeureseizures, and arrest and engage in discriminatory policing. >> the announcement comes after the attorney general traveled to baltimore on tuesday and said the city had time to symbolize the mistrust that exists between police and community around the country and after the mayor stephanie rawlings-blake asked for the investigation on wednesday. also comes a week after the state's attorney for baltimore filed criminal charges against six officers involved in the arrest of freddie gray who died after being injured while in police custody. with me here in our studio msnbc's tremaine lee, and also