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everyone. i'm richard lui in for tamron hall. we begin with developing news this hour. in about nine hours, donald trump will take the stage in what some are expecting will be the largest event so far of the 2016 presidential race. his campaign is expecting a crowd of more than 35,000 people to attend the campaign rally tonight in mobile, alabama. it's being held at the university of south alabama's land people stadium. it can hold more than 40,000 people in that facility. his rally had to be moved from an indoor arena to a much larger venue. he called in to a radio show in mobile yesterday to discuss the crowd size. >> what happened is we took the hotel like a ballroom that held a thousand people, and the company, the hotel company calls us up and they say, we're getting swamped. we don't have enough room for this. they then took another one that was larger and then another one, and then they went to, i believe, a convention center, and i think it holds 10,000 people, and within a few minutes
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we were wiped out of that one because we were way over. and then they end up going to your stadium because that's the ladd peebles stadium, right? >> that's right. >> that's the only thing that could hold it. it's become an event and a real happening. >> this morning's usa today takes a look at what logical be trump's long-term strategy. it consists of playing a lead in the polls. jeb bush is taking a much bigger lead against trump now. he stepped up his attacks against the front-runner yesterday. >> there is a big difference between donald trump and me. i'm a proven conservative with a record. he isn't. i cut taxes every year. he's proposed the largest tax increase in mankind's history, not just our own country's history. i have been consistently pro-life. he until recently was for partial birth abortion. i never met a person who
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actually thought that was a good idea. he's been a democrat larger than i've been a republican. i've fought for conservative causes all my adult life. >> more on jeb bush in a minute. first with katie tur in mobile, alabama. katie, there you are. let's count the numbers there. we know donald trump loves su r superlatives. can he fill that 40,000? >> he potentially could. they're talking about 36,000 now that have actually rsvp'd. he could potentially fill this stadium, but he does like to exaggerate his numbers a little bit. in arizona they were saying they expected about 10,000 people. about 5 to 7 showed up. after all was said and done, chuck tweeted 7,000 people showed up, so his numbers get inflated from time to time. weather may be an issue for them today. first of all, it's very hot right now if you can't see from
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my shine. >> you look great. >> there's supposed to be thunderstorms a little later during the afternoon when people are going to begin showing up, so that could potentially mean that less people do show up. but it is a happening event in town, and if 36,000 people do show up, that's about one-fifth of the entire population of mobile, alabama. >> wow. okay. they all might be there, folks from around the area, too. let's move from a potential superlative to a potential expletive. trump getting into that exchange with a reporter over the term anchor babies which he has used, and we also had jeb bush who used it in a radio interview, and he got into an exchange, jeb bush explicitly with the use of that term. we'll play that right now. >> do you think the term anchor baby is offensive? >> no. if there is another term i could come up with, i'm happy to hear it. >> anchor baby, is that not bombastic? >> no. give me another word. >> babies born in the u.s.
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>> that's ain't word, that's like a seven -- i said it's commonly referred to that. i didn't use it as my own language. >> jeb bush appearing to be uneasy, not something we see very often. what's the word on how and why he handled this term anchor baby the way he did? >> i think jeb bush is uncomfortable right now. this is not the position he wanted to be in. he was the presumptive leader for this race for the republican party, and he was trying to act like it, stay boabove the fray,e a little calmer, talk about policy issues. instead he is getting dragged into the fight with trump, forced to be a little bombastic, if you will, with reporters. he is known as not the friendliest or nicest governor of florida. he wasn't the nicest to the press at the time when he was governor, so i think you're seeing a little bit of that come out. he is not happy about having to
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constantly respond to donald trump, and this is what he's being forced to do. because everywhere he goes, reporters ask him what do you think of the latest donald trump said here, or here, and it's not somewhere he wants to be right now. >> all right, katie tur in the great town of mobile, alabama. thanks so much for that. joining us now is democratic governor joakim of texas. he is opposing donald trump's wishes on immigration. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me, richard. >> trump's organization reaching out to the spanish coalition to try to make peace, based on his comments. you talked about the use of the term anchor babies, jeb bush also using that term. when you watch this what the dictionary calls offensive, does this hurt efforts that have been made by the republican party to repair and woo some broken leader ships with latino
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organizations and voters? >> absolutely. it's going in completely the wrong direction and the other direction. it's not only hurting the republican party, what donald trump has done, it's hurting the country. donald trump has ushered in an ugly era in american politics, something akin to what people in california experienced with pete wilson in the 1990s what he was scapegoating and blaming immigrants in this country for all the state's ills and evil things that happened in california. that's the same thing that donald trump is doing today. and, unfortunately, what you see with the other leading candidates for the republican nomination is that they're following him down that rabbit hole. jeb bush, his own organization in 2013, it was reported by ed o'keefe in the "washington post" yesterday told republicans not to use the term anchor baby because it is a slur, and jeb bush is being disingenuous when he pretends like it's not.
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>> congressman, you retweeted a slate article, trump's astonishingly cruel immigration plan is getting rave reviews from the gop. that's what was said in that. it reads in part, neither detailed nor precise, it still stands as the most comprehensive immigration plan yet released in the republican presidential race. and together with trump as its spokesman, the plan is poised to move the gop conversation on immigration from simple restrictionism to something more punitive and cruel. we hear people are getting on the bandwagon with trump. is that true, or is it just trump getting some traction? >> i think he's speaking to the heart of the republican party base, which is the tea party, but in many ways, and there was a survey a few weeks ago that asked both republicans and democrats whether donald trump and his positions represent the republican party today, and in
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many ways, donald trump is the new face of american conservativism. it's true that some candidates have tried to hold out in saying that they oppose, for example, repeeling birthright citizenship, but it looks like most of the republican candidates have agreed with him and would repeal it. and now, remember, this is almost 180 degrees from where we were right after the 2012 election and even into 2013 where there were gang of eight in the senate that was trying to work on compliments of immigration reform, there were groups in the house trying to do the same thing in a bipartisan way. we have come a long way in the wrong direction. >> congressman, so you're a democrat. what do democrats do now? do they counter in a forceful way, or do they let the gop figuratively poke themselves in the eye? >> of course, the republicans are going to have their race on that side, and the nomination will be decided for the republican party sometime probably in the spring or maybe
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in the early summer. but what we have to do is make sure we get our message out, that we counter what they're saying, and that we lead on the issue of immigration and that we counter their narrative about immigrants being bad people and being bad for the country. >> okay. congressman joaquin castro. thanks so much and have a great afternoon. another developing story that we're following this hour for you, there is more trouble for hillary clinton over her use of a personal e-mail server. a federal judge is now indicating he believes she broke the rules. in a hearing yesterday over clinton's long-time adviser huma aberdeen, said, quote, we wouldn't be here today if the employee had followed government policy. also this morning, a new reuters report is saying her e-mails should have been classified from the start. this is over the state department's assertion that she
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did not receive classified information into her private account. kristin welker at marthas vineyard where hillary clinton is vacationing. what else have we learned from this reuters report? >> that headline from the report, i'll just read you a snippet. it says, some of clinton's report is filled with a type of information the u.s. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified. this speaks to what they've been saying, that clinton bears the burden of what might be ultimately designated as classified. the clinton campaign has been very insistent that the secretary never transmitted or received any e-mails marked as classified. this continues to be an ongoing problem for hillary clinton, republicans have been slamming her on this issue almost daily.
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we've seen it reflected in her polls and it's also leading to a groundswell of support for vice president joe biden to get into the race. according to a poll just out this week, 53% of democrats want biden to run. we know he's been talking with his allies and supporters on this. he's not going to make a final determination until the end of the summer. he's at his home in delaware, hillary clinton actually vacationing in the hamptons. president obama observing and he has not weighed in yet, richard. now to this, developing. firefighters as far as australia and new zealand will soon travel to california, oregon and washington to help fight wildfires. for the first time ever, fire officials are asking for volunteers. nbc's miguel almaguer has more. >> reporter: overnight multiplying in size. the fire that took three lives is still moving in multiple directions. officials say the forest service
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firefighters who died survived a vehicle accident but lost their lives in the flames. >> let us be true to one another. >> reporter: tom bezwefsky, only 20, lost his life. he loved working for the forest service. >> he loved life, he loved people. >> he was a special kid. we're really going to miss tom. >> a scientist committed to the environment. richard wheeler, 31, was a veteran with 10 years on the fire lines and a young husband. daniel loyon was one of four firefighters hurt wednesday. suffering burns all over his body, the 24-year-old is fighting for his life. >> he's always been in the service community. he's just been a great, great, wonderful child. >> reporter: late thursday, a procession to honor the men they
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call heroes as firefighters push on while taking time to remember the fallen. >> and that was nbc's miguel almaguer for us. let's talk about some history. the first women to ever complete the army's grueling ranger school are graduating today. what they're saying about the historic achievement. a live report is next on that. plus, hurricane danny was just upgrade to d to a category storm. hurricane hunters will fly into the storm today and look at the projected path. this as a hurricane develops in hawaii. you can find the team on twitter @newsnation. did you hear that sound? of course you didn't. you're not using ge software like the rig on the right. it's listening and learning how to prevent equipment failures, predict maintenance needs, and avoid problems before they happen.
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developing now, a live look at the army ranger graduation ceremony. just under way minutes ago in ft. benning, georgia, history about to be made as captain kristen greist and first lieutenant shaye haver become the first women ever to graduate from the elite ranger school. 400 soldiers, including 19 women, started the grueling training in april. just 19 soldiers completed that full course. despite graduating and earning that coveted tab, greist and v haver are still barred from being in combat because they are women. they have given military chiefs until october 1st to tell him which remain closed to women and giving justification for ex clusd them. this comes two years after leon panetta lifted the band on women in policy rules set to take place on january 1st.
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yesterday the two soldiers were asked if their accomplishment has opened the way for future women. take a listen. >> i think the decisions to open up further combat units will be up to senior leaders in the military. but i do hope with our performance in ranger school, we've been able to inform that decision as to what they can expect from women in the military, that we can handle things physically and mentally on the same level as men, and that we can deal with the same stresses in training that the men can. >> we ourselves came in ranger school skeptical with our guards up, ready just in case. the haters and the naysayers. but we didn't come with a chip on our shoulder like we had anything to prove. >> joining me now, megan from the times. great to see two women graduate from this, right, megan? >> it's a huge commitment to have women walk around wearing this badge. >> just 42% of those graduate
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who start ranger training. more than a third don't make it to day 5, day number . day number 5 they have to run fooifr miles in under 40 minutes, a 12-mile march in 3 hours. you see this and you ask, why shouldn't they be allowed to serve in combat and what is the military brass saying to that question? >> it's a little bit of two different things. ranger school doesn't necessarily mean you'll end up being a ranger. most people who pass don't get into a ranger regiment. but the only thing that they have to figure out now is how do they deal with the culture, how do they deal with the logistics of having women in these units, how do they make sure there is enough women in these units so it's not a bunch of men versus one woman, and otherwise, maybe they will open up infantry and these other jobs to women so that they can show that they're able to handle it. >> so those are the rangers.
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let's talk about the navy s.e.a.l.s. you've done a lot of great reporting around the navy s.e.a.l.s. let's go to what admiral john greenert said. quote, why shouldn't anybody who can meet these standards be accepted? the answer is there is no reason, so we're on a track to say, hey, look, anybody who can meet the gender non-specific standards, then you can become a s.e.a.l., his words. from what you know, how soon do you think they might make that break into the gender barrier for navy s.e.a.l.s? >> they have until january 1st to figure out whether they're going to open it. the navy has said they're not going to seek any exemptions, which means they're not going to say, we don't think women should be in the s.e.a.l.s. the navy is going to let it pass without an exemption, and that will be at the end of september is their deadline like it is for all the other services. after that it goes to special operations command. the special operations command
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can ask for an exemption. if they don't or if the defense department doesn't grant it, then technically the s.e.a.l.s will open up to women in january. that doesn't mean women will be reporting to s.e.a.l. units immediately or that they'll be reporting to the s.e.a.l.s qualification course immediately. the navy hasn't yet said what their timeline is for that. >> tell me something we don't know about captain kristen greist and lieutenant shaye haver who are making history. >> something we don't know. i think -- they're west point graduates, and it's not a surprise to anybody who has been to west point or who has been to ranger school that they were the first ones. because west point, the training there is extremely grueling. those women have already proved themselves in so many ways just getting through that and going into the jobs that they chose. so if it was going to be anybody, a west point graduate is a good bet for somebody who is going to get through ranger school. >> all right. thank you so much, megan meyers from the navy times. making history today there at
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the ranger graduation ceremony. appreciate your time. >> thanks so much, richard. coming up, the suspect in a rape trial centered around an elite prep school is preparing to take the stand. this following dramatic testimony from the accuser. hear what she had to say. that's next. plus, could caitlyn jenner be charged with manslaughter? investigators say she was driving too fast before a deadly accident. it's one of the stories we're updating around the "news nation." the jetta. but what about a deal? terry, stop! it's quite alright... you know what? we want to make a deal with you. we're twins, so could you give us two for the price of one? come on, give us a deal. look at how old i am. do you come here often? he works here, terry! you work here, right? yes... ok let's get to the point. we're going to take the deal. get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015 jetta models. or lease a 2015 jetta s for $139 a month after a $1000 volkswagen bonus. ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school sticks with them.
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breaking news this hour. avert your eyes. down 300 points, the dow, the s&p 500 and the nasdaq seeing negative. we're looking at one or two points, at least, depending on the index. the reason? there is worries about higher interest rates and china. we'll continue to watch that as our early hours in trading in new york city. now to developments in the trial of a young man accused of
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rape in an elite prep school. the accuser testified that she was raped by the classmate when she was 15. he has pleaded not guilty to all the charges and said the two had consensual contact. yesterday the testimony from her mother and the school leaders. >> reporter: next week his attorney says owen lubris will face his accuser as she broke down in tears telling hers. >> i was raped. i was violated in so many ways. of course i was traumatized. i'm sorry. >> we're disguising the girl's voice and not showing her face, the 16-year-old in grueling cross-examination with high-profile defense attorney jay kearney. >> you didn't tell him to stop because it wasn't a pleasurable
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feeling for you, did you? >> i didn't. >> you were laughing at various points with owen, weren't you? >> again, laughing nervously, yes. >> kearney trying to undermine her credibility. >> you tried not to lie as much as possible. >> i try not to. >> sometimes i guess you're unsuccessful. >> no. >> kearney says he wasn't out of line. >> you try to be professional, polite, respectful, and i believe i was all three of those things. >> reporter: the teenager's mother who we're also not identifying told jurors after the encounter last may her daughter was devastated. >> she was crying hysterically. it was very hard to understand her. >> reporter: prosecutors say the girl was sexually assaulted on st. paul's campus as part of a tradition known as the senior salute where older students ask out younger ones before graduation, sometimes for sex. on thursday a school nurse testified that during an exam
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two days later, the girl said she had not been coerced. >> she said that at no time during that encounter did she feel abused, correct? >> correct. >> lubris has pleaded not guilty to sexual assault and other charges. he says it was consensual and they never had intercourse. after she left the witness stand, the alleged victim issued a statement saying, i can now say i am a survivor. gabe gutierrez, nbc news, concord, new hampshire. up next, what's being described as the president's most comprehensive effort yet to seek support from democrats for the nuclear deal with iran. what he says will happen if iran violates that deal. it's part of this morning's first read in politics. wheat? in new purina one true instinct grain free, real chicken is always #1. no corn, wheat or soy. support your active dog's whole body health with purina one. ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time,
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new polling show a majority of democrats want vice president joe biden to run for president, challenging hillary clinton. and now the superpac is wrapping up. plus, donald trump is not the only one having to book larger venues because of huge crowds. bernie sanders had to do the same thing in greenville, south carolina. we'll get to all of that in a moment, but first hires look ba -- here's a look at the week in politics. >> i did not send any classified material and i did not receive any material that was marked or designated classified. >> 305 e-mails have been flagged for further review to see if they contain classified information. >> i think it shows, quite frankly, incompetence on her part to not know this was important nfrgs sinformation shd to protect. >> right down the road we have jeb. very small crowd. >> we'll never win if we're appealing to people's anger each and every day.
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>> jeb bush is a low energy person. for him to get things done is hard. he's very low energy. >> mr. trump doesn't have a proven conservative record. >> it doesn't make any sense to me that people can come in here and have a baby and that baby becomes an american citizen and allows them to come in. that doesn't make any sense at all. >> the courts have ruled it's part of the 14th amendment of our constitution, and my belief is that it ought to stay that way. >> when all these candidates accept all of this money, they're puppets. nobody played the game better than me. >> let's go to nbc news senior political editor, mark murray. another week gone here, mark. yep. and we have a lot to talk about. let's start with the letter, the letter from the president on the nuclear deal. what does that tell you? >> you know, this almost seems to be president obama kind of making his final pitch, his concluding message to democrats. you know, the message that he
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wrote to congressman jerry nadler of new york and other members of congress was that all options, including the military option, would be on the table if iran reanythineges on this deal. richard, i think it's worth noting just this morning jerry nadler, the recipient of that letter, ends up supporting the iran deal. they're trying to pick off the last remaining democrats so they can end up getting this deal through congress, and right now the math is on the white house's side. >> making sure to shore up all the votes they can. let's get over to joe biden. a new national poll, as you know, showing a majority of democrats. 53% want joe biden in the race. this week we learned that steve shale as well, a top democratic strategist from georgia, has joined the biden superpac, too. let's go to shale and see what he had to say this morning. >> what's interesting is i've
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gotten a fair amount of phone calls from people who worked with me in 2008 and 2012, a bunch of donors and political supporters. i think there is a lot of interest in the vice president. he's a guy that is genuinely well liked really across the aisle. so i think if he makes a decision to get in there, there will be support to mount a real effort. >> support. will the money be there? as biden puts off that date, are some of the money and some of the donors walking away? >> richard, so yes. the biden buzz continues, and i think that is noteworthy, but it's important to keep these two things in mind, that he's still yet to hire any type of staff or even steve shale, who was mentioned there, are on the draft biden effort that the draft biden effort really couldn't be used as a presidential vehicle. and the second most important thing to watch is there's been no exploratory fundraising committee that's been set up. for a sitting vice president to go and campaign in places like iowa and new hampshire is going to cost tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of
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dollars per day to fire up air force ii with all the security detail in tow. being the sitting vice president doesn't mean you get to hop on southwest airlines with one aide going to des moines, iowa or manchester, new hampshire. you have to have a big entourage and that costs a lot of money, and because of that, you have to raise it. >> let's shift over now to crowd sizes. we were talking about trump earlier in mobile, alabama. let's go to bernie sanders who has seen 27,000 folks show up for him. he's got big rallies. the post and courier saying the campaign had to move his rally in charleston tomorrow to a bigger venue as well. the question is, when we talk about those two, how is this working out for bernie sanders as he goes forward when we look at hillary clinton when it comes to the e-mail controversy? because he's not bringing that up. >> yeah, he has actually been able to maximize these big crowds. he's essentially become your alternative to hillary clinton, not martin o'malley, not jim
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webb, not lincoln chafey, and he really has coalesced that entire elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party around him. it is notable, though, that is still in the 30% range or so, and hillary clinton continues to lead all the polls that we've seen or a preponderance of the polls. it is worth noting, richard, as you mentioned, that bernie sanders, martin o'malley, they haven't had direct attacks on hillary clinton's e-mails, and i do think that's a telling sign, because the democratic party isn't willing to confront her on this. >> mark murray, as always, thank you, my friend. >> thanks, richard. let's take you back to the big board. two hours into trading. what has been said is that we are about 200 points away from a correction. now down 317 points, joining us now on the phone is cnbc contributor ron ensana. you said to me, look out, there
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is china to worry about. we also have the hiking of interest rates you also told me a month ago. >> yeah, i would worry a little less about a rate hike from the fed given the turmoil we've seen since then. thank you for recognizing that statement, by the way. we're in a period where global growth is certainly being called into question, particularly in china with the stock market again falling another 4.25%. shanghai shares are down 30%, hong kong down 20%. they're really in disarray in these worries about global growth. to me china is probably facing a real recession, not a growth recession. last night they had manufacturing data come out which was the weakest in 77 months. that had a big spillover on japan. now in the u.s. we're down 2% for the seventh straight day. >> thanks for stopping by and giving us perspective on what's happening on the big boards. coming up, a second and even larger data dump coming from the
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hackers who targeted ashley madison. one of the names reportedly on that list, josh duggar. what he's saying now. plus, could caitlyn jenner with charged with manslaughter in her role in a deadly accident? that's one of the top stories in "news nation." everyone loves the picture i posted of you. at&t reminds you it can wait. i started with pills. and now i take a long-acting insulin at night. i take mine in the morning. i was trying to eat right, stay active. but i wasn't reaching my a1c goal anymore. man: my doctor says diabetes changes over time. it gets harder to control blood sugar spikes after i eat and get to goal.
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is growing even stronger, hackers revealing personal information from the website. >> reporter: more data? life is short. have an affair. more drama. an activist group known as the impact team responsible for releasing the dirty deeds of ashley madison's 37 million users earlier this week just dumped another huge batch of confidential data on the dark web. the second wave appears to include code for the website and a massive amount of e-mails from ceo noel biderman who repeatedly questions the data's authenticity. it also includes a cheeky response from the hackers who say, hey, noel, you can admit it's real now. but also that long list that has people wondering, is my loved one unfaithful. one of the most prominent names on the list, "19 kids and
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counting" star josh duggar. he did not name the website but issued this statement. i secretly over the last several years have been looking at porn on the internet. i humbly ask for your forgiveness. the data dump is in california and new york. >> the information is very deep, very personal. it takes a lot to get through it. >> reporter: surviving in fidelity, one of the longest running on-line facilities for cheating partners says they're inundated with people wondering if they should use the data to sniff out a cheating spouse. >> they're going to have to figure out if relationships can be salvaged. >> reporter: a user identified as devastated mother claims a friend discovered her husband on the list writing, i've been married for 12 years with two
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children, 10 and 4. i thought i had an ideal life. my husband is due home tomorrow from a business trip. and now i don't know what to do. one story of many sure to come. >> and that was nbc chanel jones. we should point out for you we don't know how many of the e-mail addresses exposed by the hackers are legitimate. they said they are working with authorities in their investigation, and because they've been leaked onto the so-called dark web, it's not successful reaching it with ordinary searches. hurricane danny is now a category 2 hurricane with sustained winds of up to 105 miles an hour. the storm is expected to weaken by the time it makes landfall over the next 48 hours. it should provide much needed relief to drought-stricken puerto rico. meanwhile, a new storm is threatening hawaii.
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tropical storm kilo is forecasted to hit the islands in five dalz five days as a category 2 hurricane. caitlyn jennifer was involved in a deadly accident in february. they say she was driving too fast for conditions. her sources say jenner was driving below the posted speed limit. a jury is expected to review the case next week. we begin now with my colleague tamron hall's show "deadline: crime." tamron takes a look at an open and shut case. an 87-year-old man is found dead at the bottom of the steps in a perceived fall, but investigators discover the fall was staged and leon wood has been beaten and strangled, and it turns out he's a
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multi-millionaire recently diagnosed with terminal cancer. so why would anyone kill a dying man? detectives focus on his two adopted children who stand to inherit his wealth. >> he said, do you think your brother murdered your father? >> and what was your answer? >> and i said, god forgive me, yes, i do. >> he was persistently wanting money and my uncle was always saying, this is the last time. >> and he said, i'm not going to give him any more money. >> the season finale of "deadli "deadline: crime" airs sunday. coming up, over 100,000 people are asking jon stewart to enter a republican debate. what do you think about that? i'll talk live with the founder and president of story core, on their largest effort yet to keep your stories for generations to come. but you're armed with a roomy new jansport backpack,
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welcome back. time for the "newsnation" gut check. jon stewart could be back on prime time tv. supporters have started a petition on asking for jon stewart to moderate one of the 2016 presidential debates. the authors of the petition point out that stewart has interviewed more than a dozen heads of state and more than three dozen members of congress and has won peabody awards for coverage of the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. so far, stewart has not exempted on the petition there. more than 150,000 people though including democratic candidate martin o'malley have signed on. what is your gut tell you about that one? do you think jon stewart should host a 2016 presidential debate? go to to vote on that. now to a ground breaking project coming to a table near you this fall. non-profit group story core is
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asking students to document this thanksgiving weekend by recording an interview with a grandparent or elder using the app. the idea is to bring generations of families together by talking and listening. story core was founded more than a decade ago by a documentaryian who says his work showed him how interviewing people could change lives. he set up a booth at grand central terminal where people could sit for an hour, have a conversation. the recordings then went to the library of congress. how about that? here's one powerful exchange which has been animate of a 12-year-old boy who hass a burger syndrome and his mom as well. >> did i turn out to be the son you wanted when i was born? did i meet your expectations? >> you've exceeded my expectati expectations, sweetie, because, you know, sure, you you have these fantasies of what your child is going to be like but you have made me grow so much as
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a parent. you are just so incredibly special to me. i'm so lucky to have you as my son. >> all right. dave right here with me right now. how has story corps over the years changed things? >> well, i mean, i think what we're trying to do at story corps is to recognize p beauty and power and grace of stories of everyday people when we take the time to listen. i think we're telling a really true american story. we've spent a lot of time now on ashley madison and subway and all this kind of stuff. and these are the stories we find all around us when we take the time to listen. i think what we're trying to do is remind the nation that we should spend more time listening and less time shouting at each other. >> how is that better than the documentaries that you used to put together, the tv -- well -- >> so, it's not better, it's just different. so when i made documentaries many years ago, i saw that people being listened to, you know, when i did documentaries, that regular people being
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listened to, important in a transformative moment in their lives. i wanted to try something that turns documentary on its headnd said the purpose is not the final product heard by millions of people or whatever it is or seen by millions of people but giving the people the chance to do these interviews with loved ones. we set up a booth in grand central terminal. you can bring your dad. you sit for 40 minutes with the help of a facilitator. as we were talking about during the break, the microphone gives you the license to say things, to ask things that just don't normally get to ask. you have this very intense 40-minute conversation and at the end you keep a copy and another one goes to the library of congress so your great, great grandchildren can get to know your grandma through her voice and story. we've done 60,000 so far. largest collection of human voices ever gathered this. >> amazing collection. i've got to ask you. as i was interviewing my own uncles and aunts, they do not like to sit at the camera and stare at it. how do you get the people to do
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this or the people involved to get their loved ones involved? >> that's partly the beauty of audio. there are no cameras. two people and a mike p kcromic having this conversation. we have facilitators in the booth who make people comfortable. one of the myriracles that ever one of these 60, 65,000 interviews has gone well. and people who are reluctant to talk, you get them in the booth. i'm sure you saw this with your relative, once they start talking you have to drag them out by their ears. >> you have your thanksgiving initiati initiative. you're going to hear a lot of people eating? >> no, we tell people to go through a quite it room. ted, the organization, gave us a prize to build an app where now you don't have to come to a booth to record story corps. on your cellphone you can download the storycorps app. it walks you through the process. do the interview on your phone and with one tap it goes to the library of congress.
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this thanksgiving we're trying our first major run with the app where we're asking kids who are in hks classes, their teachers to assign them over thanksgiving to record an interview with a brand parent or another elder. theoretically over one weekend all generation of americans could be honored in this way. >> did you ever know being named dave isa would turn out to this. thanks for being here. grace great, great stuff. that does it forred this addition of "newsnation." i'm richard lui in for tamron hall. up next, luke russert hosts "andrea mitchell reports." stick around. ncer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts, ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. at boeing, one thing never changes. our passion to make it real. ♪
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