future we create for our children and our grandchildren. [ applause ] this election is about ending the 40-year decline of our middle class. the reality that 47 million men, women and children today live in poverty. it is about understanding that if we do not transform our economy, our younger generation will likely have a lower standard of living than their parents. this election is about ending the grotesque level of income

and wealth inequality in america today. it is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top 1/10 of 1% now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%. or that the top 1% in recent years has earned 85% of all new income. that is unacceptable. that must change. this election is about

remembering where we were 7 1/2 years ago when president obama came into office after eight years of republican trickle-down economics. the republicans want us to forget that as a result of the greed, recklessness and illegal behavior on wall street, our economy was in the worst economic downturn since the great depression. that's where we were. some 800,000 people a month were losing their jobs. 800,000 people. we were running up a record breaking deficit of $1.4 trillion and, by the way, the world's financial system was on

the verge of collapse. that's where we were when president obama came into office. well, we have come a long way in the last seven and a half years and i thank president obama and vice president biden -- i thank them for their leadership in pulling us out of that terrible recession. yes, we have made progress, but i think we can all agree that much, much more needs to be done. this election is about which candidate understands the real problems facing this country and

has offered real solutions. not just fear mongering, not just name calling and divisiveness. we need leadership in this country which will improve the lives of working families, the children, the elderly, the sick and the poor. we need leadership which brings our people together and makes us stronger. not leadership which insults latinos and mexicans, muslims

and women, african-americans and veterans and seeks to divide us up. by these measures any objective observer will conclude that based on her idea and her leadership, hillary clinton must become the next president of the united states. the choice -- this election --

this election -- this election is about a single mother, a single mom i saw in nevada who with tears in her eyes told me she was scared to death about the future because she and her daughter were not making it on the $10.45 an hour she was earning. this election is about that woman and the millions of other workers in this country who are struggling to survive on totally inadequate wages. hillary clinton understands that if someone in this country works 40 hours a week, that person

should not be living in poverty. she understands that we must raise the minimum wage to a living wage. and she is determined to create millions of new jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, our roads, bridges, water systems and waste water plants. but her opponent, donald trump, he has a very different point of view. he does not support raising the federal minimum wage of 7.25 an hour, a starvation wage.

while trump believes in huge tax breaks, huge tax breaks for billionaires, he believes that states should actually have the right to lower the minimum wage below $7.25. brothers and sisters, this election is about overturning citizens united. citizens united it one of the worst supreme court decisions in the history of our country.

that decision allows the wealthiest people in america like the billionaire koch brothers to spend hundreds of millions of dollars buying elections and in the process undermine american democracy. hillary clinton will nominate justices to the supreme court who are prepared to overturn citizens united. and end the movement toward oligarchy that we are seeing in this country.

her supreme court appointments will also defend a woman's right to choose, workers' rights, the rights of the lgbt community, the needs of minorities and immigrants and the government's ability to protect our environment. if you don't believe that this election is important, if you think you can sit it out, take a moment to think about the supreme court justices that donald trump would nominate. and what that would mean to civil liberties, equal rights and the future of our country.

this election is about the thousands of young people i have met all over this country. the thousands that i have met who left college deeply in debt and tragically the many others who cannot afford to go to college. during the primary campaign, secretary clinton and i both focused on this issue but with somewhat different approaches. recently, however, we have come together on a proposal that will revolutionize higher education in america.

it will guarantee, guarantee that the children of any family in this country with an annual income of $125,000 a year or less, 83% of our population, will be able to go to a public college or university tuition free. that proposal also substantially reduces student debt. this election is about climate change, the great environmental crisis facing our planet.

and the need to leave this world in a way that is healthy and habitable for our children and future generations. hillary clinton is listening to the scientists who tell us that unless we act boldly to transform our energy system in the very near future, there will be more drought, more floods more asidification of the o oceans, more rising sea levels. she understands we can create hundreds of thousands of jobs transforming our energy system. donald trump, well, like most republicans, he chooses to

reject science. he believes that climate change is a hoax, no need to address it. hillary clinton understands the president's job is the worry of our future generations, not the profits of the fossil fuel industry. this campaign is about moving the united states toward universal health care. and reducing the number of people who are uninsured or underinsured. hillary clinton wants to see that everybody person has the right to choose a public option

in the health care exchange. she believes anyone 55 or older should be able to opt in to medicare. and she wants to see millions more americans gain access to primary health care, dental care, mental health counseling, low-cost prescription drugs through a major expansion of community health centers. and what is donald trump's position on health care? well, no surprise there, same old same old republican contempt for working families. he wants to abolish the affordable care act, throw 20 million people off of health insurance and cut medicaid for lower income americans.

hillary clinton also understands that millions of seniors, disabled vets and others are struggling with the outrageously high cost of prescription drugs. and the fact that americans pay the highest prices in the world for the medicine we use. she knows that medicare must negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical industry. and that drug companies should not be making billions in profit when one out of five americans are unable to afford the medicine they need. the greed of the drug companies must end.

this election is about the leadership we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform and repair a broken criminal justice system. it's about making sure that young people in this country are in good schools and in good jobs, not rotting in jail cells. hillary clinton understands that we have to invest in education and jobs for our young people, not more jails or incarceration. in these stressful times for our country, this election must be about bringing our people

together, not dividing us up. while donald trump is busy insulting one group after another, hillary clinton understands that our diversity is one of our greatest strengths. yes, we become stronger when black and white, latino, asian-american, native american, when all of us stand together. yes, we become stronger when men and women young and old, gay and straight, native born and immigrant fight together to create the kind of country we all know we can become.

it is no secret that hillary clinton and i disagree on a number of issues. that is what this campaign has been about. that is what democracy is about. i'm happy to tell you that at the democratic platform committee, there was a significant coming together between the two campaigns and we produce by far the most progressive platform in the history of the democratic party. among many, many other strong provisions, the democratic party now calls for breaking up the major financial institutions on wall street.

and the passage of a 21st century glass/steagall act. it also collapse for strong trade provisions like the tpp. our job -- we have got to make sure that tpp does not get to the floor of the congress in the

lame duck session. our job now is to see that strong democratic platform implemented by a democratic-controlled senate. by a democratic house and a hillary clinton presidency. and i am going to do all that i can to make that happen. i have known hillary clinton for 25 years. i remember her, as you do, as a

great first lady who broke precedent in terms of the role that a first lady was supposed to play, as she helped lead the fight for university health care. i served with her in the united states senate and another her as a fierce advocate for the rights of women, for the children and for the disabled. hillary clinton will make an outstanding president and i am proud to stand with her tonight. thank you all very much!

it was a raucous monday night for the democrats in philadelphia, about which it will probably be said that michelle obama brought the house down and elizabeth warren and bernie sanders continued the work. it will be interesting tomorrow to see if people say against a raucous crowd he did the job that was needed. >> the democrats set up this first night of the convention to showcase the progressive wing of the party, to showcase the sanders candidacy and sanders movement. there was a lot of progressive speakers tonight, including some of the most progressive parts of the party and, including senator sanders himself. that was an emotional speech for a number of reasons, not least the multiple people we saw in our cutaway shots weeping through his remarks, crying

throughout the hall for what might have been had he won. huge ovation greeted him. he almost couldn't get his remarks started and it was a bernie sanders stump speech in some way but it ended with what the clinton folks and the dnc was saying in no uncertain terms that he stands with her and he will do everything possible to get her elected. he also said at the start of the remarks, i look forward to your votes during the roll call, thus letting us know officially, there's not going to be a hillary clinton nomination by ak climation, so all of the votes for him, all of those delegates do get officially counted and that time is taken basically to pay homage to his candidacy at the dnc. >> before we bang this around in

our studios, let's go to independence hall where chris matthews has set up for the evening. what did you think of what happened inside the arena? >> i think when her line was "you're beingridiculous" was an amazing line. i also thought michelle was a show shopper, talk about brains, class, every point, role modelling for the nation, i was watching a lot of people, including a lot of young african-american women, the attentiveness that people had

for her was so stunning and uplifting tonight. and elizabeth warren, with a bit of snark and she was good at it, and she plays trump's game very well, which is attack. i think the most important speech tonight is bernie sanders. i think there will be more roll call and rhetoric but i have to tell you, i think the democrats' first night may turn out to be more successful than the republicans' last night. i thought it had a lot of charm and happiness, it had hall franken's humor, a bit sophisticated for some people but it was brilliant. i thought the whole night was a slugger's row of wonderful sentiments from the high esteem that the first ladies received to the passion of the progressives to the -- i have to say good sportsmanship and

better of bernie sanders. he really laid it in there for hillary clinton tonight and if his followers don't follow him, that's their call, but you can't ask more than what he said tonight. so overall for putting things together for what we call in politics fence mending, a ten strike, ten strike. back to you guys. >> thank you, chris. we'll be back to you in short order. jacob is down with the california delegation. rightly or wrongly, the california delegation got a lot of attention tonight because of how vocal they were, because of how visual they were with the signs and what have you. >> reporter: they sure have. and i'm here with bernadette. she changed the sign to say "stop her." i was watching you during the speech. this looked like a very difficult speech for you to

watch. >> it was very difficult for me to watch. >> reporter: why? >> i've been following bernie for the past year and a half. to see him endorse somebody i'm not particularly as passionate about, it was just very difficult, considering for the past year and a half he's been anti-hillary, it's hard for me to accept. >>. >> reporter: at times he teared up and was endorsing her, what were you thinking. >> i know poverty very well. i know he was fighting for us. for him to say she's the one fighting for you, i do not accept it. >> >> reporter: so you don't believe him? >> i don't. >> reporter: what are you going to do in november? >> it depends.

given that he's not going to be the nominee for our party, i'll still vote for him in the roll call but i firmly believe the democratic party should be fighting for us and the lower working class. if they're not choosing us, if we've had to fight this fight for them to meet us of a way, sure, $15 minimum wage, maybe universal health care, maybe. if we've had to fight them this hard for that and it's just a promise, it's not even for certain, it makes me want to leave the party because it does not represent my moral -- >> reporter: but you're faced with a choice, hillary clinton versus donald trump. what are you going to do? >> green party, because that is also an option. >> reporter: bill stein? >> that's correct. that's also an option.

>> senator chuck schumer, you were practically singing. cole porter is your music tonight. >> that's it. >> reporter: what did he deliver? >> what bernie said to everyone, including his supporters, support hillary clinton, it's going to make a huge difference in america. in the eye of what cole porter said, who could ask for anything more? it was a rough day early on but bernie has cauterized the wounds. >> reporter: they were not issues that hillary clinton originally wanted. she had a much lower tuition tax -- >> bernie created a movement and he tapped into something very real in america and hillary clinton was wise enough to understand it and move in his direction, not in a direction away from americans but when it

comes to things like social security, like minimum wage, like education, like infrastructure, together they moved closer to americans. it's great. i was worried this afternoon. i feel so much p so good now. >> reporter: she still came in with very low favoritability ratings. how does this make her more likable? >> because the nation is still in pain. and all the republican convention, is going to put a single dollar in people's pockets. and this is just day one. wait till day four. i'm a happy meeting. >> we just heard jacob who said even after hearing that speech from bernie sanders, she's

planning on voting for the green party ticket. bernie sanders has been an independent in the u.s. congress for longer than anybody's ever served in that capacity, but in 2000 when ralph nader was mounting his independent green party bid for the u.s. presidency, bernie sanders endorsed the democrat in 2000, he did not endorse ralph nader. it will be interesting to see if he now needs to make an independent anti-green party, anti-third party candidacy more explicitly than he has thus far. let's go to kelly o'donnell now. >> reporter: i'm here with mozella belle from louisiana. we noticed that former president bill clinton was in the box above us. you heard bernie sanders tonight as a supporters of his. did he move you towards hillary clinton? >> no. >> reporter: why? >> like he said earlier, it's something she would have to work on. i mean, he did his part, he came

out here, he pumped us up, he told us what he wants us to do, what he would like for to us do, but most of it has to do with her. we love bernie because of who he is and what he stands for. if she could like come over on us like, you know, just a little bit. >> reporter: is there a characteristic, a trait, an experience point with hillary clinton that holds you back from supporting her? >> the main thing is trust. if bernie told me something today, i would trust bernie. i mean, it's just something that a person has to work on. it's like any type of relationship. once you first get into it, there's not that good of a trust issue there, but hopefully as we get to know her better and as we learn to see what she truly stands for, what she truly feels about people, then maybe a

relationship can start to grow but it starts with her. >> reporter: there's not a lot of time. there's a few days left in this convention, a couple of months until election day. what would you do when it comes time to vote? >> i would vote my heart, not my brain -- whatever. i would definitely still cast a vote for a democratic ticket. >> reporter: but not with joy? >> like i said, it's a relationship. both sides got to work on it, she's got to do something on her, i need to do something on myself like learn more about her, feel like, you know, this stuff that she's doing is, you know -- >> reporter: we thank you so much for telling you how you feel. this is a louisiana delegate -- >> i hope you find her in a few days. you can do a reality show version of that reporting to find out if she has moved over the next few days. that is fascinate persian gulf.

>> -- fascinating. >> as the couple's therapy that is the democratic convention, halle jackson. >> one delegate told me she hopes bernie sanders' speech moved some to hillary clinton. when we spoke to you, you said you felt betrayed by hillary clinton. did you hear anything tonight that made you change your mind? ly vote for her in november? >> no. >> reporter: why not? >> because she hadn't changed anything. >> your candidate got up and gave an impassioned speech on why people like you should vote

for hillary clinton. >> her voting record does not that, she has not moved to say no to tpp. >> reporter: so the better option is not to vote? >> i'm still trying to come to terms -- it's extremely unfair that a vote has not happened, there are still two democratic nominees for nomination. there's going to be a roll call vote on thursday and i'll still be able to vote for bernie sanders here at the convention and maybe after thursday my sentiments will change. i mean, i don't see it happening. i just -- i would really have to hear a stronger stance from hillary on things like the tpp and corporate money and politics. i mean, she's kind of the poster child for corporate greed and politics. >> reporter: last one before i let you go. those who say that unity is

essential now in order to beat donald trump, do you buy into that, ashley? >> i think that unity has not been displayed in this convention today. bernie sanders was barely representing on that stage. his delegates -- >> reporter: he himself came out and said he's proud to stand with clinton. >> 10:30 p.m. after we had to sit through the clinton love fest, yes, we finally got to see our candidate. i felt blessed to get a sign. i almost cried when they gave me a bernie sign because our voices are not being represented. half of the people in this entire convention are here for bernie sanders, and that has not been what's been displayed so it's disheartening. >> reporter: ashley, thanks so much. i think we'll check back in with you in addition to the delegate that kelly was talking to to see how you're feeling after thursday night. >> so much to talk about. >> there is a lot to talk about. hillary clinton is against the

tpp. it's interesting that it's become she's not against the tpp is a great grievance tonight. they may not believe it. also interesting to hear people say i will trust what bernie sanders says and what he says what you should do is support hillary clinton, trust me, they don't trust that. >> i fear millions believe tpp is a product of charmin. >> or that they're down with tpp, you know me. >> hillary clinton has absolutely left the door open to some kind of change that would allow her to get on board and the next president is going to have fast track authority. >> but she's against it in its current iteration. >> i guess. >> she was for it before she was against it. i think that gets to the core of what these three delegates are speaking to, which is this trust question, which dovetails into the argument that sanders is

making until very recently and trump. the damage has been done to her image and you see it in the voices of those delegates. >> but these delegates are not representative of sanders' voters. 85% are saying they're voting for hillary clinton already to get a unanimous group of sanders delegates on the floor, our group all say they are unmoved by tonight, they are unusual. they a tiny minority of sanders supporters. >> we heard from that last delegate that bernie sanders was not represented in tonight's convention, he had to go last. first of all, going last is kind of the big honor. that's the thing you want. >> it's her first convention. >> but how do you make that -- how does bernie sanders ultimately make that clear? actually, me going last is a good thing. most of my congressional endorsers spoke tonight and we got everything we wanted in the platform and we've changed the super delegate system --

>> and you got a tattoo and a sign. >> and hillary clinton's against the tpp. i mean, there's a big difference between the case that bernie sanders is making and the case that his delegates and supporters are hearing. >> he did get 43% of the democratic vote, 45% of the delegates in that room, but there had to be a winner. chuck todd i'm thinking of you because you and i both know the same kind of veteran old school democrats who would take those three delegates we just heard from aside and say do you want -- will you enjoy the trump administration? >> right. not only that, they're like where's that hotel? can i take you somewhere in delaware would you like to stay? no, i'm half teasing there. you know what was interesting about the sanders speech is i actually think he was declaring victory that, yes, he lost the nomination but he won the issues. that's essentially what he was trying to say. look at what we've done.

we have pushed hillary clinton to this progressive direction. which is true. she has been scrambling in some ways to catch up to where the party moved and to where bernie sanders was moving the party. in many ways i thought that speech tonight was sort of sanders saying -- rachel, i like that you used the word trust, saying, i trust her but i know you want it verified to make a play on words. his sort of reminding them that look what i did in the platform and look what i did in these other ways, we have ways to basically, he didn't say it but it was implied to have a check and balance on her if she strays too far from the platform. that's the sense i got from that speech. i know we're talking all things bernie and today has been a lot about bernie, but if you're hillary clinton, there's only one speech tonight you would like to see run on a loop and it's not sanders and it's not warren, it's not booker, it's michelle obama. that is going to be one of the -- probably one of the

speeches of this convention when the weekends. >> incredible job. >> when michelle obama remashremasherk remarks -- it's not that we don't know that michelle obama is a good speaker, but there was something about this speech tonight that changed the whole cast of the evening. it is one of the things we've been talking about online, in terms. reaction about it, is michelle obama going to run for something? she seems like she's got the skills if she'd like to. >> there's an elect michelle hash tag that was making its way in social media. >> it was a summation of two terms in office, two terms in that house, which was very germane to her remarks. it was a lot of things. >> i want to go to our friends steve schmidt here. because of last week, we're all sort of looking for parallels

with ted cruz experience that ends up feeling like not the right analogy. is there an appropriate analogy here? how do you think he did? what do you think the impact was? >> i think the democrats had a very chaotic afternoon, it gave way to a great convention. they laid some tough leather on donald trump, yet the message was also aspirational, it was joyful, it was positive. michelle obama gave a speech for the ages. in fact, it was so good, maybe we'll see it at the next republican convention in some form or another. and look, bernie sanders at the end he endorsed hillary clinton. these young delegates, they will ultimately i think almost universally be supporting hillary clinton in the general election as we move through this convention process and the choices between the secretary and donald trump. and pragmatism will enter into the picture at some point. >> the trust issue is such a

hard thing to unpack. we talk about it a lot because of the polling issue, but to hear delegates say in adjacent sentences, i trust bernie sanders, if bernie sanders tells me something, i can trust it, i don't believe him on hillary clinton. that distance between that word not making it into sentence a into sentence b isn't the one for bernie sanders to fix, if they say the only thing they don't believe him on is that they can support somebody else -- >> on the bernie thing, i think this is hillary's -- and every candidate has their baggage that they carry and her opponent probably has more than her. this is her baggage. i think the campaign would be foolish to try to fix the deficit. i think she has to go out and make different arguments.

but this is -- she's explained it to you, 25 years in the public eye being attacked by republicans and she's also reinforced it with the way she handled the e-mail scandal, with the way she handles questions. i get e-mails from the most liberal people i know that hated her "60 minutes" appearance. >> what should we see next? >> this will be the end of the aspirational stage and you'll see a vicious campaign between hillary clinton and donald trump. >> we should never forget in this race the number one and the number two most unpopular candidates for president in the history of polling or running against each other, if these were blind generic candidates, candidate a, candidate b, we would look at the numbers and say both of them are unelectable. but the way one electable candidate for president wins is by being lucky enough to run against another unelectable

candidate and that's what this race will be. >> first time in electoral history both have been at or mere near 100% name recognition, unassisted recall as our friends call it. kasie hunt is standing by with a guest. >> reporter: hi, brian, we are in the back rooms of the wells center, you see the 76ers logo on the floor. we're here with simone sanders, former national press secretary for the bernie sanders campaign. she poured quite a bit into this campaign but has tonight been tweeting and talking to bernie sanders supporters about why it's time to get on board. simone, can you splan whexplain is to say to the supporters of the senators who have been so vocal in being anti-hillary clinton? >> i think bernie sanders did great tonight and it was a great

display of party unity. i think this election is about the issue and bernie sanders supporters got behind senator sanders because they cared about the issues, they cared about criminal justice reform, the climate change, working people, making our economy work for hard working people in america and tonight senator sanders laid out, one, that those issues are still at the forefront and very important and, two, why secretary clinton is exactly right on all of those issues. >> they boo'd secretary clinton, several were booing when bernie sanders was up there staying positive things about clinton. >> unity is a process, kasie, and i like to say we're all family here, this democratic convention is a family reunion as i like to say. >> reporter: it's pretty late in the process for family reunion. >> it is never too late for a family reunion. i believe the issues in this election are entirely too important. i believe hillary clinton is

right on the issues. when we talk about the economy, advocating for the little people, the hard working people in america, every day people, the person that is going to go out there every single day with those folks in mind and fight for our economy and help hold folks accountable, that person is going to be secretary clinton. dr donald trump is not thinking about the hard working people in this country. i fully believe we going to walk out of this convention thursday still with some qualms we got to work through but focused ready, a family, because we're family right now and ready to come together and, ready to fight and keep that white house come november. >> do you think that hillary clinton stole this election from bernie sanders? >> no, hillary clinton did not steal this election from bernie sanders. elections are about two sides making their cases and someone emerges victorious. secretary clinton emerged and

it's time for us to get together. >> reporter: thank you very much, symone. >> i want to bring in one of the highest profile supporters of bernie sanders in washington. he's a senate supporter of bernie sanders, senator jeff merkley of oregon. senator, it's great to see you. thank you for being here, sir. >> rachel, it's great to be with you. you gave pretty passionate remarks. you're an even keeled guy. i wonder how you feel about what we're hearing tonight from some sanders reporters and some sanders delegates, that they don't feel listened to enough, that they aren't persuaded that hillary clinton deserves their vote and no matter what anybody

says, including you and bernie sanders, how do you feel about that? >> i was in the oregon section and oregon voted overwhelming for bernie sanders and bernie sanders set this place on fire tonight. he remanded everyone issue after issue and the bold vision he put forward for the campaign. he opened the door, did this in partnership with hillary clinton, for hillary to see the great frustration in america and take a much bolder view herself on what can be accomplished on topic after topic, on education, on health care, on the corruption of campaign cash, on global warming. so he has shifted in a fascinating and profound way the direction of the democratic party and the direction of the hillary run. it's something that all of us who stood with bernie are so

pleased to see. a young woman who you had on recently said it's a relationship, she isn't quite sold on the relationship yet. but i think in the course of the week, people are going to be sold and of course hillary clinton will come out and close the deal herself. i hope she comes out and she makes a bold and passionate stand on these issues that is in sync with what we heard tonight. >> why do you think it is that some sanders supporters, including some who are connected enough to be there as elected delegates at the convention this week, why do you think there isn't more celebrating of that process that you described, moving hillary clinton personally to the left on a number of policy issues, moving the democratic party significantly to the left in terms of its platform, changing the democratic party's -- the democratic party's process for choosing a nominee. i mean, the sanders folks and sanders movement did have a ton of success on those things but you sort of don't hear

satisfaction on that, don't hear claiming victory on that at the end of the day. >> reporter: they were part of an historic journey, that he'd never get more than 5% or 10% but he'd never be a serious candidate and suddenly he was on the cusp of potentially winning the nomination and it's -- so it's very hard to reach out and almost grab the ring and then not quite be able to do so. but here is the thing. hillary has been in the public realm for decade after decade after decade and so given that much of her -- many of her bolder positions, her stronger positions she's taken in the past few weeks are relatively new to her, they're waiting to find out is this for real and that is a message that hillary clinton has to convey this week, that she really does believe that we should make college

tuition free for all of working america. those are earning under 25,000, that we really do have to aggressively pivot off of fossil fuels, get 100% renewable fuels by 2050, that we have major problems by giving our manufacturers abroad, and living wage jobs in this country, they need to hear that. she needs to close this deal later this week. >> senator jeff merkley this evening spoke this morning, thanks for being with us. have a good convention. >> steve and nicole, part of the reason to have you here is to compare and contrast with cleveland. how do you compare and contrast the democrats' bench performers, what they have -- >> there's no comparison. >> teahat's all the time we hav. >> we have a scott baio tonight.

the democrats had incredibly talented, heavy hitters tonight. they roughly ran on time, they drove a message, you had a narrative building over the course of the evening. senator corey booker's speech was brilliant, they had a mix of positive, humor, aspirational and taking the fight to donald trump. they didn't wait till wednesday night right before the varietyial nvariety i -- vice presidential nominee, they didn't wait for bernie sanders, he went the first night and then they can move forward. >> i talked to a senior trump adviser tonight and he said inside the trump inner circle,

they are themselves surprised by the bounce in the polls because it was sort of a haphazard convention, but it is it a reality check in terms of how people take these in. they don't sit here like we do and watch six hours of convention coverage. >> they don't? >> they don't, sorry. >> i find that hard to believe. >> so most people aren't watching the whole thing. so maybe from the republican convention, they saw chaos, they saw all five members of his family gave lovely speeches. so if you're taking this in as a normal person, they might not get quite the breadth but there's no comparison. >> no democrat refused to come to this investigation. >> although al gore said he

would be voting for hillary clinton. >> pointed reporting that he not only wasn't coming but that he hadn't endorsed and he put out his endorsement via twitter. >> the gop gathering when you think about it, no mccain, no dole, no bush, no bush, no bush. that was incredible. >> and still ahead here, not only is there tim kaine and of course hillary clinton, the former president will be giving a speech, the incumbent president will be giving a speech and both of them are not particularly known for giving mediocre speeches. >> i said no dole. dole was the stallwart. >> bates it's getting late in the evening, let's take a break and we'll be back at the top of the hour.

xx we just celebrated midnight here. here's the thing about the wells fargo arena, they have told us these lights are finite and