it's not a thing in american politics but maybe you guys can make it one. that does it for us tonight, thanks for being with us, we'll see you again tonight, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnel. >> rachel, thank you for teeing myself segment about melania trump. >> it turns out she -- donald trump's eyes any way, be guilty of something worse than plagerism. let's this be a warning, you might have a problem with the story we're having to discuss tonight about how she came to the united states from slovania. it could be that he could be married to the kind of person he says he hates the most.

first, somewhere along the line, i don't know where donald trump learned or just decided to pronounce an "h" as a "y." to put it in language that even donald trump can understand, according to a bunch of new polls if the election were held today, donald trump would be humiliated. >> of course the elections will not be rigged, what does that mean? >> it's a rigged system. >> that's ridiculous. >> i'm afraid the election is going to be rigged. >> he had a pretty strange run since the convention. >> he makes more gas than i can keep up with. >> the polls look like it could be disastrous next week. >> a new poll shows that hillary clinton has opened up a 9 point lead over donald trump. >> we don't plan on winning in august, we plan on winning in november. >> the queen of corruption.

>> he is the nominee of the republican party, they're stuck with him. >> anyone you can promote with a tweet should not be anywhere near nuclear weapons. >> i can picture donald trump in that national security meeting. >> i have a strong opinion about the two candidates. >> i know there are a problem reasons not to use nuclear weapons. meat loaf your thoughts. >> i would ask all of you to make your judgment >> should i bomb -- [ laughter ] >> this is "last word" on campaign 2026. >> 43. remember that number. 43. it is a very important number in our political history and it's a number that could humiliate donald trump. 43.

dth. i actually forgot the importance of the number for a while. it was in bill clinton's first year as president, the major bill he tried to get through congress is exactly the same thing, exactly, that hillary clinton said she'll try to get through congress. it's an idea that donald trump supports, i don't think he realizes it will have to go through congress. it was a jobs bill, a stimulus bill filled with infrastructure building for roads all over the country. you've heard him say he wants to rebuild all that stuff. i don't think he realizes that it means getting a big new spending bill through congress, which is one of the hardest things you can try to get through congress. robert bird, one of the great masters of the senate's legislative procedure was the floor manager of that bill in bill clinton's presidency, that very first bill. and the democrats were confident that senator byrd could get the job done because he always got

the job done in those situations and he holds some pretty flashy maneuvers to move the bill forward in the senate. but he got caught on the one-trip wire that even a master of the senate can't skip over. clincher bill. as no one outside of washington knew then. it takes 60 votes to end debate in the senate and move to a final vote on legislation. that means it only takes 41 votes to stop just about anything in the senate. and in those days, there were 43 republicans in the senate. over the course of several days senator byrd moved four times, each time there were 43 votes against culture, 43 votes to kill the bill and finally the democrats gave up. more amazingly to senate staffers sitting on the city floor that day, the legendary senator byrd gave up. we've never seen that before.

and then the most unlikely person to say anything important in the senate at the time, chuck wrote rose on the republican side of the floor. he was in his 12th year in the senate then and still ignorable since he didn't hold any position of power in the senate and wasn't exactly an interesting speaker. he said something then that i will never forget. for the first and only time he spoke directly what was going through my mind. how unfair it is that in a vote of 57-43, 43 wins, only in the united states senate could 43% of a vote be a winning percentage. senator grassly addressed his comments to all of his colleagues on the other side of the aisle who were thinking what i was thinking and who were horrified that 43% was the winning percentage in the senate that day. senator grassly said, you should remember that the current president of the united states

was elected with 43% of the vote, chuck grassly is now in his 35th year in the senate and he's never had a better line on the senate floor than he did that day. i had forgotten then that bill clinton in a three-way race with george bush and ross perot with only 43% of the vote and i sat there thinking, well, we don't have a quick come back to that line. and we didn't. no democratic senator chose to argue with chuck on that point. what i saw then clearly when chuck grassly said that about bill clinton winning the presidency with 43% of the vote was real anger, real bitterness, a real sense of injustice in senator glassily and other republican senators on the floor that day. you could feel how they felt it was an almost illegitimate presidency, his presidency winning with 43% of the vote.

none of them had seen that before. it surely shaped the condescending and defiant attitude they had toward bill clinton on every piece of legislation that he proposed, the 43% president. and tonight, 23 years after chuck grassly engraved the number, 43 in my memory forever, the new nbc new poll shows hillary clinton in the lead for presidency with 43% of the vote. donald trump at 34 president. gary johnson at 10. look at how that compares to 1992. bill clinton got 43%, george bush 37, ross perot, 19. that picture shows that we've been here before. 43% for clinton as the first-time presidential nominee in a multi candidate field for the presidency.

there's been some speculation among political observers that in this four-way race this year, it could reduce the frontrunners' electoral vote count so much that no one wins the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the presidency. so, it's worth remembering what 43% of the vote translated to in the electoral college and this is where chuck grassly's lesson to the senate about the 43% failed to tell the most important of that story. is that bill clinton's 43% turned out to be a landslide in the electoral college. bill clinton won 100 more electoral votes than he needed, 370-168 that was the electoral college result. that's more electoral college votes than george w. bush or

barack obama ever won, even though barack obama won a clear majority of the popular vote. if the election were held today, 43% could be a landslide win for hillary clinton. she could get 200 more electoral votes than donald trump, if the election were held today according to these polls, hillary clinton would humiliate donald trump more thoroughly, and completely and permanently than donald trump has ever humiliated himself. donald trump would be america in the world's biggest loser if the election were held today. the word "trump" would change its meaning to loser, that's if hillary clinton just got 43% of the vote. but other polls, now, showing her getting more than that. they show hillary clinton getting somewhere around the

same amount, 44, 45%, fox cnn poll has her at 45. fox news has her at 44. mcclachy poll has hillary clinton at 45%. it shows a much, much bigger lead over donald trump who was way down at 31% and that kind of margin would mean an even bigger wipe out for donald trump in the electoral college. if the mlachy po were right and the election were held today donald trump would be buying for biggest loser in the history of presidential election and he would be dragging down other republicans on the ballot with him in states around the country to the point where he would single handedly deliver control to the united states senate to the democrats which is why donald trump no longer does this at his rallies. >> one of the polls just came out, isn't that a beautiful site. beautiful, i love. one of the -- i only usually the

ones where we're doing well we're doing well in most of them. the polls that are coming out now have me with a massive lead. >> we have the most loyal people of anybody, that's not me saying it. i went through the polls, i've been number one in the polls almost right from that first day. >> joining us now gene robinson and msnbc political analyst. she's also an msnbc contributor. i don't know, he failed to mention any of the polls today. you know that first 20 minutes of the trump rally that's about the polls, that wasn't about the polls today. i can't figure out why. >> it must have slipped his mind. i'm sure he'll get back to it in the next rally. actually, i don't think he will once the polls completely turn around. look, what has happened is the -- both conventions and,

certainly, the aftermath of the conventions have, in total, been pretty disastrous for donald trump. he got arguably a bit of a bump from his convention. he gave it all back and more than the democrats had a very good convention, hillary clinton got a bounce. and then donald trump, over the last several days, with his inexplicable reaction to the khan family with, you know, kicking the baby out of the press conference, refusing to endorse the speaker of the house in his primary. i mean, all this stuff has not only raised questions about his suitability as president, but raised questions about his mental competence and that's not a good thing if you're running for president, you know, you can't win the presidency in august arguably you could lose

it in august, i'm not saying donald trump has, but this has been a really bad strike. >> i would like to unburden myself of something that has been bothering me all year and see if we have any agreement on this. and that is during the primaries donald trump would, you know, attack john mccain and his poll numbers would not be hurt and they would go up a little bit and everyone would say oh, that didn't hurt him. he want to ban muslims and everyone in the republican primary everyone would say that wouldn't hurt. what i kept saying was, he's running for president of the united states, not president of the republican party. every one of these things is hurting him in a general election, every one of them, just wait until we get to the real general election poll and you will see an accumulation of damage that he's been doing to himself all year. >> yeah. absolutely. you know we were campaigning

very aggressively in the primary on the fact that these kind of things were going to be damaging in a general election and that's why we thought it was a bad choice. he ultimately didn't really win over the republican party, if you remember, you know, he actually won a minority of republican voters over all, didn't really win the hearts and souls of republican voters. but they have sort of tried to rally around the guy. what we've seen in all of these examples you've shown over the last week is such an example of his incredibly thin skinned. he can't help himself any time he's attacked to sort of come back with a ridiculous amount of force that keeps all these stories in the news and they do continue to hurt him because he can't help himself and he's way too thin-skinned. >> gene robinson your newspaper is reporting desperate fund-raising plea by paul ryan tonight, using an interesting turn of phrase and i want to read this from the washington post.

>> on thursday evening that warned "if we failed to protect our majority in congress, we could be handing president hillary clinton a blank check." they couldn't be clearer about what they think is happening here. >> yeah. i mean, first of all, paul ryan is -- has had a bad few weeks, right. he felt he had to endorse trump because of his stature as the highest ranking republican. he did it holding his nose, obviously. every few days he has to come out and denounce something trump has said or done while the at the same time not taking back his endorsement. trump goes out of his way with an interview at the washington post to insult ryan by refusing to endorse him and using the very phrasing that paul ryan used to, saying i'm not there yet. he came back to that in the interview with our reporter,

phil rutger, just to make the point, just to needle at paul ryan. and so i think ryan, in this sense, has just about had it. he, like a lot of other prominent republicans in washington, actually think -- and this is my projection on what i think he thinks -- actually thinks donald trump is going to lose and that they better do what they can to save the senate and the house. >> and katie, republicans have been here before and it's getting striking how many parallels are developing between bill clinton presidential campaigns and now hillary clinton's. the republicans did a similar fund-raising message in 1996 in his re-election campaign at this point, you'll remember they were 18 points ahead and congressional fund-raising appeals they kept saying, you know, you don't want to give a blank check to president clinton. they weren't even -- they weren't even pretending there was a chance of presidential. >> at this point it's just smart politics. i think you'll start to see both

house and senate candidates try to distance themselves and run as a check and balance on hillary. if you remember, paul ryan who is one of the best guys i've ever known in politics, he's just a good guy and even his opponents mostly agree with that, has been trying to talk about substantive things that republicans don't normally talk about, addressing poverty, addressing inequality in this country, things that republicans don't traditionally talk about. he runs up against this trump wall trying to have a positive message for republicans and i think it's frustrating for speaker ryan and his team to have somebody that's playing games when they're trying to move an agenda forward. >> no doubt, these polls will tighten up as soon as donald trump stops saying and doing stupid things. so we're sure going to see much tighter polls. eugene robinson and katie packer thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks. coming up the latest

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>> people ask me, what do you think about trump? honestly, i don't care for him much and i certainly don't trust hillary. i'm a marine. for me, country comes first. my duty is always to you, so if donald trump is the president, i'll stand up to him, plain and simple. if hillary wins, i hold her

accountable every step of the way. >> that ad will start airing tomorrow along with the version of him speaking spanish so donald trumpill have no idea what he's saying. up next demelania trump do

was not so willing to work for was a college degree. but her web site falsely claimed that she did graduate from college in slvania a web site since that mistake was eliminated, it's destroyed, gone, doesn't exist. and at the time it seemed that the trump world preferred to eliminate the web site completely rather than just correct that one falsehood on the web site. why would they do that? maybe it wasn't the only falsehood in melania trump's biography. politico reports today that there are some serious problems with the trump family story about how melania trump came to the story. so serious that president trump's first lady could be the kind of person he hates the

most, an immigrant who worked in the united states illegally. it all started as only a trump family story could with naked pictures in the new york post on monday. melania trump posed for the pictures in 1995, with the way she tells the story of her life now. she first arrived in the united states a year later, in 1996. >> i grew in slvania, i went to school there and i studied design and architecture and then i moved to milan and paris to live there and i had successful modeling career. i came to new york 1996. >> the question now is what kind of visa did melania trump have when she began working in the united states? was it legal for mrs. trump to work here or was she part of the great wave of illegal immigration that produces

illegal workers, according to her husband, that are destroying america? >> i follow the law. i follow a law the way it's suppose to be. i never thought to stay here without papers. i had visa, i travel every few months back to the country to stamp the visa. i came back. i applied for the green card. i applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. so i went by system. i went by the law. and you should do that. >> joining us now, alex, an immigration attorney in philadelphia and ben, reporter at "politico" covering national politics. ben, the -- one of the blurry parts of this story is that when we hear melania trump talk about it, she never specifies what kind of visa she had at the

different stages of her american experience. >> that's right. and from the description we just heard from her in which she was going back every few months to europe to get a visa stamped, which is a description she's made of her experience more than once, that sounds like a b 1 or a b 2 visa, the kind of thing you get as a tourist or business traveller and the kind of thing that wouldn't permit you to work as a model. >> and -- ben, your story sort of spooked the trump campaign and through releasing a statement today about her history. they released it in her voice. it's in writing and says i have at all times been in full compliance with the immigration laws of this country, period. any allegations of the contrary are simply untrue. >> but alex, that statement, like everything else the trumps have said about this, never refers to any specific kind of visa as she worked her way

along, eventually, up to getting a green card before she married donald trump. >> exactly. so to date, the statements at the trump campaign have made have been platitudes, very vague statements about compliance with immigration laws of this country and all applicable laws. >> and so what -- the possibilities here, alex, include that she came on a tourist visa or something like that, she started working on that visa and that's why she was going home every six months or so so she can keep that visa, at least, looking right in the passport. but at some point -- at some point she manages to get a green card. how do you -- how would you pole vault from a tourist visa to a green card, what other kind of visas do you think she would have obtained along the way. >> sure. i think the idea that she was modeling in the united states using a b 2 visitors visa based

on her trips to get the visa renewed, that would have been at an airport not actually in slvania. i think she in all likelihood was using a b2 to act as a model in the united states in terms of pole vaulting or transitioning out of her status as a visitor to someone with a green card, it, of course, this is speculation, i haven't seen her file and i don't know much about her personally, but i would suspect that she received something called an eb-1 green card for a person of extraordinary ability. certainly her modeling career, about the time she would have gotten a green card, which based on her naturalization date would have been in 2001. that was really when she was at the height of her modeling career, you had the harper's bizarre spread. you had her in the sports illustrated swim suit issue and

those are the kind of achievements that would enable someone to qualify, at least present a colorable case, for a eb-1 extraordinary ability green card. >> is it possible that would have been the first legal work document that she had to work in the united states? >> someone who has a traditional bread and butter work visa, which is called an h-1b it does include models of sustained acclaim, but someone who has a proper work visa doesn't need to be traveling out of the united states every couple of months to use mrs. trump's own word, to get a visa stamped. if you have a work visa, you can remain in the united states for up to three years without having to do anything with immigration and, potentially, much longer without ever having to travel outside of the united states. >> ben, another problem for the trump campaign here is that

donald trump has come out against h-1b visas it may be that was one of the visas that his wife used to legally work in this country. >> that's right. the italian businessman and associate of donald trump who was melania's agent at the time has now said that she got an h-1b in 1996. if you look at the way -- if you look at, for example, melania's statement today, she refers to reporting about her immigration status in 1996. the problem is what was happening before 1996. it appears she was in the country in 1995 modeling. >> we'll have to leave it there tonight. thank you both very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> up next, is president obama worried or we should say, how worried is president obama about donald trump getting national security briefings.

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after meeting today president obama was asked if he's concerned that donald trump will be receiving national security briefings about isis and other issues. >> we are going to go by the law, which is that both tradition and the law that if somebody is the nominee, the republican nominee for

president, they need to get security briefings so that if they were to win, they are not starting from scratch. they have been told these are classified briefings and if they want to be president, they've got to start acting like president. >> joining us now, steve clemens, editor at large of the "atlantic" and msnbc contributor. steve so often make presidents thing sound simple. does he have any idea how difficult that is for donald trump? >> you can see the anguish on obama's face saying what he said, because he clearly is worried that by implication of what he's saying is that donald trump won't be responsible with the classified information he's hearing and he worried that -- and he said many times he sees donald trump as unfit to be

president of the united states and he's so uncomfortable saying that. and even later in the press conference, lawrence, you know he says if he wins he'll be responsible. you look at the body language and he grimaces. i think there's an element where i think he's made clear that other people republicans he's had differences with, he never questioned their patriotism, never questioned their sense of duty to the country. they had differences and they could agree to disagree and move on. with donald trump it's a very different game for president obama. >> it's so hard to believe that donald trump could get the security briefing in a morning and go out to rally audience in the afternoon and not brag about it, and not say, i've got a security briefing this morning. it's really bad out there. it's just -- any way -- >> it reminds you of what tim kaine was saying at the convention, you can imagine him saying believe me, and referring to the security briefings.

>> it's a poll number that's come out and it's one of the leads on issue that he had. this is the question of who do you trust on terrorism and national security. in the middle of may he had a 12-point lead on hillary clinton on that issue, 52-40. now, it is tied. there's no lead. it's 47-47. trump has no advantage on one of the issues that he has banged away at as hard as anything else he has said, that lead has evaporated for him. >> what is really interesting here and with all do respect to the hillary clinton campaign who we've not heard much from, despite their best efforts because he's stealing all the headlines, he's kicked down his own hill. so, yeah, he was in the lead and she gave a compelling presentation at the convention, but what donald trump is doing and we're finally beginning to see it happen, i think, is that

his comments about nato, his comments about the khan family, his disrespect for the flag, for the purple heart, he's really kicked down his own hill. >> yeah, and we're going to talk about this later in the "war room" when he's doing that most professional's advice to the clinton campaign is try to let him have as much of the spotlight as possible. don't say anything particularly clever. >> it's working. >> steve cle mons, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, $400 million cash, cash to iran. sounds bad, especially if you know absolutely nothing about it like, say, donald trump. president obama explains it all, next.

time for tonight's lesson in governing for donald trump. >> 400 million in cash being flown in an airplane to iran.

i wonder where that money really goes by the way, right. i wonder where it really goes. well, it went to either in their pockets, which i actually think, more so, or towards terrorism, probably a combination of both. so $400 million in cash, now, you real -- who can authorize even in terms of a president, who can authorize $400,000 in cash. >> that was donald trump and fox news' second day in a row talking about the big pile of cash delivered to iran. and once again it failed to president obama to explain to donald trump and fox news how the world works. >> we announced these payments in january, many months ago. there wasn't a secret. we announced them for -- to all of you. josh did a briefing on them.

this wasn't some nefarious deal. and at the time we've explained that iran had pressed a claim before an international tribunal about them recovering money of theirs that we had frozen that, as a consequence of its working its way through the international tribunal, it was the assessment of our lawyers that we were now at a point where there was significant litigation risk and we could end up costing ourselves billions of dollars. it was their advice and suggestion that we settle and that's what these payments represent. the reason that we had to give them cash is precisely because we are so strict in maintaining sanctions and we do not have a banking relationship with iran, that we couldn't send them a check.

and we could not wire the money. and it is not, at all, clear to me why it is that cash, as opposed to a check or a wire transfer, has made this into a news story. maybe because it kind of feels like some spying -- yeah, some crime novel because cash was exchanged. the reason cash was exchanged is because we don't have banking relationship with iran, which is precisely part of the pressure that we were able to apply to them so that they would ship a whole bunch of nuclear material out and close down a bunch of facilities that, as i remember two years ago, three years ago, five years ago, was people's top

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every turn in the campaign presents new challenges and new decisions. we'll go inside the clinton warren tonight to see what the numbers mean for the next stage. here is it how it looked today on the campaign trail. >> i can promise you the day donald trump becomes president of the united states of america, the change will be huge. >> hillary and i win this november, you'll have not one but two people in the white

house who understand the unique set of challenges facing america cities. >> when donald trump does his talk he doesn't go tiptoeing around thousands of rules of political correctness. >> she deleted the e-mails to cover up her crime. she lied about it all over. if i ever gave the answer that she gave to chris robins, it would be pretty close to execution. >> where else would an independent spirit like donald trump find a following? >> are the controversies wearing on you, but yes they are but not as much as they are my wife. >> president clinton's opponent is ego maniac. >> do you want a president who stands for your fired or one who stands for you're hired? >> the woman running for president of the united states is not only the most qualified person, she's the most intelligent ever running for president. >> donald trump said he can't make his suits or ties or shirts or furniture in the united

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in tonight's campaign "war room" the clinton campaign has had a very good week in the poll, in addition to leading all the national polls, recently released, battle state ground, hillary clinton is up four in michigan, nine in pennsylvania and up 13 in pennsylvania. it is a state poll released this week showing donald trump in the lead, that was in georgia. and it's not good for him. trump at 46. hillary clinton at 42. joining us now, steve mcman and piere. >> the georgia poll, it shows

you how powerful these leads are in the other states. you're ahead by 15 here but you're contesting it in georgia. >> it's looking like they're opening up the map a little bit. >> you get these polls. >> yep. >> you say do we need to do any more advertising in new hampshire at all, should we not waste money for new hampshire, should we send some money down to georgia and try to buy some time? >> well let me first say this, lawrence, 96 days are like a lifetime. democrats continue to fight this can be a very competitive race. so like you just stated, this race is going to be fought on the ground. it's going to be the race 270 electoral colleges, they're going to look more at the state battleground state polling, less than the national polls and so their internal polling that's

what matters, how do you get to 270 and what way can you do that, right. virginia and colorado looks good trending more democratic diverse, pennsylvania is looking good. so what are the numbers that you need and how do you put them together to get the 270. florida and ohio will be extremely important. >> you're in charge of the meeting in the clinton war room tonight, you've got all these polls sitting on the tail and you walk in. other than telling everybody, you know, it ain't every till it's over, that thing, what new moves do you decide to make based on what you're looking at? >> one of the things i'll be looking at the states we might be able to take, we read recently, i think, clinton campaign is taking the advertising down to colorado. it might give them the opportunity to go in some of these places where trump is shrinking like in georgia, utah where he's got problems, arizona where it ought to be a safe

republican land but it's not looking that way. there are some states that are creeping from red, to purple to perhaps blue that you might want to put some money in to make trump defend his base. if you can pin him back, it's like in the football metaphor, if you can pin him back inside their own 20-yard line it's difficult for them to score a touchdown. i think that's where the clinton campaign want to keep him. >> we may make that decision we're suspending, as they're saying, advertising in virginia. they must be making that on their own poll that says this is how strong things are in virginia or colorado. >> that's exactly right. like i was saying virginia and colorado in particular, it's trending much more diverse, they talked about pulling the polling down in colorado and going to virginia.

the president went to charlotte, north carolina. there's a reason, he won that state in 2008, lost it in 2012. nebraska and maine have these different electoral college criterias she's looking for that one electoral college in nebraska. you can tell, they have a plan, a very sophisticated plan, where on the other side donald trump, we don't know what his battleground state plan is, how is he going to get to 270. he has to get florida, pennsylvania, he has to get ohio. how is he going to do that when the numbers are so tight and bad for him when he's not building his coalition, right, he's not getting african-americans, latinos, he's doing really bad with women. you can't go with the 13 million plus of primary voters that he's been doing and that's what he's doing. he's doubling down on that number. >> on hillary clinton the candidate, when you see donald trump going out there every day saying something stupid and

damaging to his campaign, is there -- is there a decision made in the clinton campaign bus where you simply say, you know what, use all of yesterday's material, don't use any of these new good lines we came up with because they will be drowned in the coverage of the trump madness, save these great lines for next month, next week, whenever it is, maybe the debate. save them for when we need them. >> to go back to the football metaphor, lawrence, it's like running out the clock. you're absolutely right. you're hillary clinton, you're winning, there are 96 days left. every single day that you don't lose is a win for your campaign because you're so far ahead in some many of these battleground states. you don't want to do anything to upset the momentum that the race -- you know, that the race is on and you want to keep donald trump sliding toward the wheels coming off his bus. >> we'll leave it there for tonight. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you lawrence. up next, the president's birthday.

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mayday. every man for himself. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews from washington. this evening, president obama hit donald trump when he was down and boy, did he love piling on in this late in the day press conference. he did so as trump's campaign reached a scary new low point today with a pair of alarming poll numbers. according to the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, hillary clinton leads trump now by nine points, 47% to 38%. nine points in our poll. but catch this one. the latest mcclatchy poll is even more dire for trump. the republican nominee is down 15 points. not just double digits but closing into 20 points against clinton.