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thanks for watching this hour of msnbc live. i'm tamron hall. have a fantastic weekend. i will see you in two weeks. right now on msnbc, "andrea mitchell reports." and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," putin's pawn. a former cia director says donald trump is being played by the russian leader. calling him an unwitting agent of the russian federation. >> putin called me -- he said donald trump is brilliant and donald trump is the leader -- and he said nice things about me. today, mike pence responding in an interview with savannah guthrie on the "today" show. >> honestly, the comment by the former cia official, i suppose this is the same cia that told the president that isis was the jv team. and meet the press, this
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hour hillary clinton facing reporters with new poll numbers showing her lead against trump widening as she hammers her opponent's trust worthiness. >> we don't want you being sold the same bill of goods that the students who signed up to go to trump university were sold. and good friday afternoon, everyone, i'm andrea nichl washington where moments from now, hillary clinton will address reporters from the national association of black journal itselves and the national associations of hispanic journalists. she will be taking questions from kristin welker. you think coming as clinton is on a high. our new wall street journal polls showing clinton jumped one nine-point lead over donald trump. 47-38% in a two-way match-up. nearly doubling her five-point advantage before the conventions.
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most importantly though, clinton has erased trump's long held advantage among men. cutting into his lead with whites and solidifying her lead among an african americans. joining me now is chuck todd and moderator of "meet the press". this is a big poll for hillary clinton. because it signifying trends and solidifying her advantages. >> what is interesting is when you really dig inside and sort of how did she build her lead? she built it with democrats. pure and simple. interesting here, a couple things, democrats who felt sour on the country a month ago basically the saw the the convention, became more -- we saw ships for instance -- shifts for instance -- >> really? significant thermometer. >> exactly. and it moved democrats. not independents or republicans. and it explains the consolidation. so essentially right, both candidates enter their conventions with unity issues. she consolidated democrats better than he consolidated republicans. >> are these bernie sanders
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democrats? >> some seem to be bernie sanders democrats, but when you see her and then the difference between having said a five-point lead and a nine. point lead now, she's also getting small double digits, but low double digits of republicans. so that's also adding to this as well. but overall, that's what you see out of this, it's democrats consolidat consolidate, they feel better about the direction of their country, the tone of the message, and their candidate than republicans do about their candidate. >> and when you look at the groups strongly in her favor, women, african americans, it's overwhelming. men, for the first time, slight advantage among men. >> most is coming from -- i saw one and kaornacki, it's folks, white voters with a college education, that is a category she's leading. well that's what's helping boost her among men overall as well. >> you know, is this partly because of the way they played the risk factor with donald
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trump? >> it's all -- when you look at it seems to be temperament and preparation for the job. the other part that's fascinating, if you take clinton out of this, or if you take trump away from every question that's involves clinton and when you start testing clinton on her own, and we're going to be release more of this poll over the weekend, but essentially, the change message, trump's message when you take his name off of it resinates and is more powerful with voters than her message. we did an interesting test and i'll show you on sunday, of the two main points of their acceptance speeching. and his resinated a lot stronger than hers did. change resinates stronger obviously with him versus her, but it's when you see the two names, that's where things change. his message is a winning message. the problem is, it's his personal ratings and his temperament, all of those things is why he's behind. >> one question that comes to mind, did they do well in their convention or did he just mess up in the days since the
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convention? >> it feels like -- i would say, it's interesting, for what it's worth, and we went over four dales, there was no change in her lead from the first day we were in the field to the last day. meaning, our pollsters concluded, you cannot say definitively that the episode with the khans and trump had an extra, sort of accelerating factor in the bounce. that's not there. this feels more like it's the totality of the democratic message. is what boosted her. boosted on that front. so i think when you look at it that way, maybe if you're the trump folks you're relieved that it didn't get worse. that this is bottom. and our pollsters are thinking that the number we're showing now, that it's hard to imagine he gets any lower than that. and, it's hard to imagine that she can get anything above 47 when you throw in the other two candidates. sop we may be at the outer edges for both of them. so that means we'll see, i mean, all of the ingredients are there
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for him to close this gap, but it depends on him. him as an candidate. him as a messenger. all the ingredients are there for him, but obviously he's struggled this week in particular. >> and the discipline factor, he belatedly two days later came out with a tweet, 6:45 this morning, acknowledging that the video that he says that he repeated yesterday, again, that he saw the plane that he saw with he thought the cash being to teheran actually bringing out the washington post reporter jason and the other detainees from teheran. one was described as a massive cargo plane with palette of $400 million. that's a lot of stuff. that's a heavy cargo. >> i know. the producers at all five networks were looking at their own footage going did he see it on our network? >> i think -- >> some people thought maybe he
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was watching fox. >> i was watching to see if iranian television -- >> did we miss something. >> this is his way of saying, i misspoke, but i'm not going to tell you that. i'm going to do that. it's as close to a walkback as you'll get from donald trump. >> i want to ask you about the battleground states and this new constitution poll because if clinton's putting georgia into play, that would be significant. >> see this is where, where you can have an accelerating factor as far as turnout is concerned can and demoralization. we see what's happening with the bounce. that's a national poll and handful of state polls. over the next four days, more state polls. and today is the one you bring up as georgia. just the fact that she's up a handful of points. okay, i think it's three or four points. not big. georgia is one of those states that democrats say it's coming, they think they can make it competitive. obama lost by single digits both times. it's been somewhat competitive, but this is one of those oh wow,
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the question is are you going to get something that's even redder than georgia that comes in where she's ahead? early next week. and then how does the republican party overall handle that news? right. if you start seeing the map, i was thinking today, if we do the nbc battleground map public the evidence says georgia is a toss-up state, pennsylvania is not, it's lean. you would say wisconsin's not, it's lean. you would have a weird -- utah in a toss-up category, georgia ins to-up, but you'd have colorado and virginia leaning blue. that's a -- that's a math that's got to scare the living daylights out of republicans. >> chuck todd, off lot to choose over. >> we do. and team trump is ending a week of bad headlines and disappointing poll numbers. chuck will have all of that of course on "meet the press" -- >> and tim kaine. >> tim kaine on sunday. >> first being interview on sunday. and katie tur is joining us outside of trump tower today.
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katie, these bad headlines, disappointing poll numbers, they've got to have some effect on the internal discussions in the trump world. >> reporter: you know, they're trying not to let it have an outward effect. they don't to want give off the notion that there is any sort of turmoil inside the campaign. but andrea, i can tell you, there's been a course of people talking to donald trump telling him that he really needs to try and stay on message. yesterday, was so supposed to be reset number, i don't know, number 12, 11, day two of that. and he came out and stayed mostly on hillary clinton, mostly on barack obama, but then as we've been talking about, strayed to saying things that were decidedly false, talking about the video he saw of money being offloaded and then also talking about san bernardino saying that people saw bombs on the floor.
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to be sure anywhere. baseless climb. donald trump keeps getting distracted with the controversies, however, bigger small or they are at the time. and that takes away negative headlines potentially in the campaigns eyes. for hillary clinton. they want to find a way to have donald trump tone it down so that the media and everybody else can focus on what's going on with hillary clinton and conversations close to the candidate. are the poll numbers. he watches the polls and keeps an eye on him at all times. he believes what is being said in those polls. that's why you felt whatever he wanted. to see the poll numbers drop, that could be the thing that really does get through to
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donald trump and start to force him to change this campaign. but even still, there is little hope he's going to be able to maintain it. >> and katie, they put up an ad, which is really mystifying to nose. us who frankly have been watching the clinton campaign and the trump campaign, they have an ad trying to claim that hillary clinton said something she clearly did not say to everyone who was there in omaha, nebraska, last monday. let me play it for you. >> trump wants to cut taxes for the super rich. boo! well, we're not going there, my friends. i'm telling you right now, we're going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on the middle class. >> well here is what she really said. take a look rather. >> i'm telling you right now, we're going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on
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the middle class. >> you know katie, it is hard to hear, but what she is saying is we aren't going to raise taxes. that's what she says at every rally. and it's very clear what she means. it's her way of speaking. it's her sort of illinois/arkansas accent. why would they put that out there? >> reporter: i'm not sure -- i know why they put it out there. they want to give the impression that hillary clinton is going to raise taxes on the middle class. it feeds into their message and hillary clinton is not going to be good for the economy. that donald trump is going to cut taxes and hillary clinton is not. that's why they would want to put it out there. they must have known that she was not saying r, in fact she was saying aren't. if she was saying are, that would have been a major deviation from her policy, from her positions, from everything she's said this entire campaign. so if you look at it in that way, why are they putting out if it's knowingly false? then it speaks to what's going on within the campaign. and it speaks to donald trump
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himself. remember, he talks about things that are demons ra bli false, thousands of muslims cheering in the streets of new jersey after 9/11. that is false. he talk abouts a video of cash being offloaded on the plane, that is false. he talks about people seeing bombs on terrorist floor, that is false. this ad is false. and that is a problem that the campaign has in terms of perception from the outside. i'm not so sure though that they see it as a problem within the campaign, especially since donald trump supporters and the ones you see at these rallies arer in bant for him and they believe that the campaign or the candidate can do any wrong. >> katie tur, thank you so much. from trump tower to washington, d.c. where perry bacon is at the national association of black and hispanic journalist event near washington where hillary clinton is taking questions this hour from our own kristin welker. she does not have that frequent interaction with reporters to take questions. this is going to be controlled.
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she's got an opening statement then she takes a few questions and questions from the audience. but what do you expect and what are -- you've been there for a couple of days, among the journalists, what's on their minds? >> reporter: you know, i think you'll hear hear, it's not that unusual, it's unusual to have questions like this, it may be because of a black, hispanic, about 4,000 black and hispanic journalists, maybe focussed on questions of immigration policy on voter id laws, things like that. it's also important moment here i think because of the fact that ten kaine was at the national urban league on wednesday. right now hillary's leading close among white voters. leading in all of those states. i suspect these numbers might get closer. and then she'll be pretty reliant as my guess is, virginia, north carolina, if she wants to win, georgia, the black and latino vote turnout will be very important for her. our poll shows that hillary is leading among african americans
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91 to 1 over donald trump. not that surprising. the black vote is very democratic. i think particularly for the down ballot races and also for hillary to make sure she wins virginia, north carolina, she needs to keep doing outreach to the minority communities. >> in fact perry, in states like pennsylvania where she was struggling for a while and now is ahead, more comfortably ahead and especially after that bus tour. if she runs up a big vote in philadelphia, big african american vote in philadelphia, it won't matter what happens in what they call the t, the central and northern part of the state, the western part of the state. >> reporter: right. i know a lot of the democrats view, they view the election now the big opportunity. not just in terms of you can see, you know, hillary's definitely the favorite to win the white house, but you can also imagine a big wave of democrats winning congressional seats as well. and the polls that are coming up so far suggest that hillary's
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lead is helping other democrats down ballot. and that's a big factor to watch going forward. and it also may, you know, there are states like you said, georgia earlier, where big turnout there, you can see hillary clinton new states on the map if trump's numbers among whites remain where they are right now. you can see hillary winning maybe a georgia and an arizona. those are states work as well. >> perry bacon, thank you very much. coming up, we're waiting for hillary clinton to take the stage at the national association of black journalists and national association of black journalists convention. meeting here in washington with our own kristin welker moderating the panel. stay with us for that. for lower back pain sufferers,
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in, nice plane. and the airplane coming in and the money coming off, i guess, right? that was given to us, has to be by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us? because they want to embarrass our country. >> well that tape doesn't exist. in an unusual admission that he was wrong just 24 hours ago. today donald trump tweeted what his aids have been sayinghe tweeted the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash. the video was a private jet to be released from their prison in teheran. jason, the washington post correspondent out of iran. firing back at trump, president obama last night denying that the $400 million payment was ransom. >> we announced these payments
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in january. many months ago. we announced them. to all of you. josh did a briefing on them. this wasn't some nefarious deal. we do not pay ransom. we didn't here and we won't in the future. >> joining me now is the editor at large, steve clemons. steve, thank you very much for being here. there were payments that went to iran, but the problem is the nuclear deal is concluded that weekend. negotiated and they complied and so that was the weekend, january 16, 15, 16, 17, everything was done. the prisoners were released. and at the same time, the white house decided -- >> money happens. >> to send $400 million that was iran's money from 1981, frozen by the u.s., held in the new york fed, and sent back that
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very weekend that same day. and that is the decision that some in the administration decided gave iran the argument that it was ransom. many more hundreds of millions of dollars would have been due if there has been an international verdict. and it was a penalty then. >> there is a story that some will see who see a kwib pro quo in the change of dollars for other currency at the past hands and release of hostages. i was interested because i knew about the hague decision when it came out and the simultaneous, interlocking pieces. it was sort of in my mind for the obama team, the nicks and goes to china moment, there was a big leave, we were trying to affect the entire ecosome for a moment to take us forward.
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tlrt different negotiating teams and i remember joking with a senior official who is in part was responsible for the kind of sanctions, how could we pay them because we don't have a banking relationship? i had that exact conversation at that time, but the broad notion was the president last night, it's one i've been sharing is that when you're trying to basically clear the deck on a number of fronts and you're taking a strategic leap with a nefarious country, the question of timing on one piece of this may not be bilateral, but may have been an important confidence-building measure to the iranian side. at the same time, the bad guys in iran, there are a lot of bad guys in iran, the worst of the bad guys in iran, the military and revolutionary guard people, they bragged that we were paying ransom. we gave them a propaganda tool. the trump people are doing is
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that hillary clinton was out of office for four years. >> hillary clinton had nothinged a all to do with any of the timing of this. and in fact, hillary clinton, while she and her team, jake sullivan and bill burns and others played a vital role on taking a step forward on what might be possible to achieve with iran -- >> they launched it. >> there were three different teams negotiating the three different pieces. sn'tshe wa near any of this at this time. it's completely an invented drama, an invented speergs that they've tagged on her. and people can debate whether they believe what the president has said and, you know, kind of the argument i'm making or not, whether it was appropriate, it made since to me at the time, given the pieces. i certainly see why, you know, when you look at the irdc and the iranian, they are as opposed to the iran deal as i think bill crystal and the new york conservatives. there's crowd people that look at the iran deal and any gesture towards iran is being one that was foul play to begin with.
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>> and a point on what was new reported been because of the banking royal, we couldn't pay them. it was boat loads. a cargo plane of crash in euros, and and swiss, franks -- >> it's really cool. they were cool in a sense because -- again, coming back at this time when the president made this comment in january, again, joking around at the time, i was also remember the pictures of boat loads of cash and dollars on pallets being shipped to iraq. and i said at least we know how to do that. so there is a not to overflay, but the notion of delivering major amounts of cash. at this time, i didn't know it was swiss franks and other currenci currencies. we've shipped boat terms to baghdad into afghanistan. >> they know how to do these things. what you know, and many, you know, tragic ways from your
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other involvement with the isis hostages is that unlike the europeans who've gotten their hostages back from isis and syria have been executed because we don't pay ransom. >> the u.s. government does not pay ransom. on top of that until recently, families that try to put together money packages to pay off hostage takers and their family members, that was considered a criminal activity and criminal proceedings could take place, the white house suspended that saying they will not hold families accountable and take criminal action against them, but the white house still doesn't condone it, still is very quite composed and this gave us insight into the comments, it's hard to look in those family's eyes and say hey, we're not helping you secure the release of your loved ones, but we're paying ransom to iran for those people who believe that's what we did. >> thank you very much. meanwhile unexpected endorsement for hillary clinton today. former deputy cia director michael mor ral endorsing
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clinton in an opinion column raising concerns about donald trump. moral who has been nonpart sin for his entire career served under president george w. bush and obama. in that new york times op-ed, he wrote, second that donald j. trump is not only unqualified for the job but but he may well pose a threat to the national security writing that vladimir putin, a former kgb officer play ud upon mr. trump's vulnerabilities by complimenting him. he responded just as mr. putin had h calculated. the conclusion, in the intelligence business we would they mr. putin had recruited mr. trump as an unwilling agent of the russian federation. wow, today trump responded with a written statement saying hillary clinton and president obama batter direct responsibility of destabilizing the middle east. having let isis take firm hold in iraq, libya, and syria. trump said, it should come as no surprise that her campaign would push out another obama/clinton pawn who is not indeponent try
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to change the subject. they were trying to distract everyone over iran. and concluding, hillary clinton has bad judgment and unfit to serve as president. joining me now, ambassador the former ambassador to the russian federation. ambassador, let's talk about the theory of the case here is that vladimir putin knows what donald trump is. that he's former kgb officer. he assesses what an flatters him and he in return we see over and over again that trump praises putin. what do you make of all of this? >> first of all, i want to underscore the source, mike moral is celebrated as one of the top leaders in the cia. so when he writes this, i take it very seriously. second point ab absolutely mr. putin knows what he's doing, he was a former intelligence
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officer, but more than that, he ran agents and so he thinks about psychologically how to deal with people. i saw him do that with president obama, i saw him do that with secretary clinton when i was in the government. but third, always underscored the main overlap here is that putin and trump have the same policies. so even if there wasn't this psychological game going on, fooen he didn't praise him to seek his praise. they shared a lot of policies and that's the national security threat. >> and mike, tell us what advantage this could be. we know that both trump, well the trump's campaign manager, paul manafort has done work for the pro-russian elements in ukraine. so there is an overlap in terms of policies. >> yeah, let's just review them. mr. trump has said he would look into the recognizing crimea as part of russia.
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no u.s. leader, democrat or republican, almost the entire world has rejected that. i think there's five or six countries. he said he'd look into that. he'd look into lifting sanctions. he'd look into renegotiating our relationships with our nato allies. all of those things are, you know, issues, policies, that mr. putin would like to see the united states pursue. and mr. putin has said that very explicitly, very bluntly, it's very rational that putin should want trump to be president. >> and what should we think about donald trump being flattered by putin and praising him? >> well, for me, i just find it, you know, disturbing. mr. putin does a lot of things that are not in america's national interests. he does a lot of things that violate norms of democracy and human rights. he shouldn't be praised. he shouldn't be talked about as a great leader that he took
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crimea or she's a strong leader. and especially the moral equivalency i think bothers me the most. when mr. trump was asked, you know, about these kinds of things on msnbc several months ago, he said, well, you know, we kill a lot of people too. that in a way is insinuating that what mr. putin does is the same of what our soldiers do abroad. that's insulting to what we do as a country. that's insulting to our interests and our values. >> the president was asked yesterday about the fact that both of these candidates are now entitled by law and practice to intention briefings, they are going to be briefed shortly by general general clapper, the director of national intelligence, is there any reason to be concerned about either of them given the accusations that hillary clinton has not handled classifies information properly? >> well, after i lot of confidence in our briefers. these are people i used to work with when i was in the government for five years. i'm sure they are going to give them just what they need to be
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presidential candidates. but nothing more. that is to say they are not in the government, they do not have any decision-making capability. so, you know, one can give a briefing and make it feel like you're getting inside intelligence and actually not reveal too much. >> ambassador mike mcfall, thanks very much. we'll be back with hillary clinton appear vrg shortly at the national association of black journalists. stay with us. gilman: go get it, marcus. go get it. gilman used his cash rewards credit card from bank of america to earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. at places like the batting cages. ♪ [ crowd cheers ] 2% back at grocery stores and now at wholesale clubs. and 3% back on gas. which helped him give his players something extra. the cash rewards credit card from bank of america. more cash back for the things you buy most. the cash rewards credit card from bank of america. at clorox 2 we've turned removing stains into a science. now pre-treat with clorox 2! watch stains disappear right before your eyes.
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our sister network. and here, an unusual session of hillary clinton addressing the press. >> good morning. >> i am so pleased to be here. i want to thank you all for the invitation, for the introduction to everyone associated with navj and nahj. i want to just mark the moment because you were created in this hotel. i don't know if there are any original founders, but if there are, could you stand up and we could give you some recognition. [ applause ]
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i am dpliegted to thank you for the important work you do every day and now more than er we need you to keep holding leaders and candidates accountable. and in the tradition of path breaking journalists, like ethel payne and ruth salazar, we need you to make sure that america's front pages and nightly newscasts an online information reflects the great diversity of our nation. someone that i had the privilege of knowing, the late, great, bob may ard, former owner of the oakland tribune once said, and i quote bob, it is in seeing ourselves whole that we can begin to see ways of working out our differences of understanding our similarities.
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and that is what you do every day helping us to see ourselves as whole. i'm looking forward to our discussion which i'm sure will cover a wide range of issues, but i want to take just a few minutes to focus on a challenge that doesn't get enough attention on the campaign trail. although i'm trying, how do we expand economic opportunity for african americans and latinos across america? and you know very well, it's been said that when the economy catches a cold, communities of color get pneumonia. the great recession hit our whole country hard. but the toll was especially difficult for black and latino families. black wealth was cut in half. for latino it dropped 66%.
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that represented decades, even generations of hard work. and during these past 18 months, people across our country have described to me how hard it's been to get back on their feet in an economy that is still not working the way we all want to see it, and barriers of systemic racism makes that even harder. now i believe that prok does not get the credit he deserves for leading us out of the great recession. [ applause ] and i like to remind people, he had nothing to do with creating it in the first place. he came into office this and this worst of all financial crisis since the great depression was handed to him. and i think if you fairly look at the record, you have to
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conclude that his leadership saved us from a great depression. so as bad as things became, nine million jobs lost, five million homes lost, $13 trillion in family wealth wiped out, as bad as it was, there's no telling how far down we would have gone without his leadership. so we are out of the ditch that we were in, and now we've got to do even more. we've got o to build on the progress we've made. 15 million new jobs in the last seven and a half years. 20 million people now have health insurance that didn't have it before he became president. we've got to have the will and the plans to move forward. that's why i've proposed a commitment to african american and latino communities to make
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serious, sustained investments to create more good-paying jobs. to help families build and rebuild wlth to support small-owned businesses. for me these aren't just economic issues. they're part of a long continuing struggle for civil rights. rosa parks opened up every seat on the bus, now we've got to expand economic opportunities so everyone can afford the fare. and we have to make sure the bus route reaches every neighborhood and connects families with safe, affordable house, and good job. sylvia mendes and ruby bridges help desegregate our skpublic schools, and now we have to get internet access that our kids need to learn in the 21st century. and so in my first 100 days as president, we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment in new, good-paying
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jobs since world war ii. that includes jobs and manufacturing clean energy, technology, innovation, small businesses and infrastructure. if we invest in infrastructure now, we will not only create jobs dead, we will lay the foundation for the jobs of the future. we're going to also focus on creating jobs in communities where unemployment is high and neglect. i'm a big fan of congressman jim clyburn's 102030 plan, steering 10% of investment to neighborhoods where 20% of the population has been living below the poverty line for 30 years. we need that kind of focussed, targeted investment, in urban places, rural places, wherever americans have been left out and left behind. we're also going to invest $20
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billion in creating jobs for young people. there's a big gap here. the unemployment rate among latino and african american youth is significantly higher than for whites. you know, it's hard to write a resume if you have nothing to put on it. we're going to help our young people get that first job so they can get that second job so they can get build a good, solid middle class life that will give them and their families a better future. we're also going to do more to help black and latino entrepreneurs get access to capital, so they have a real chance at turning their ideas into thriving businesses. now i think that's not only good for those entrepreneurs, it's good far family, workers, and communities. additionally as part of our end toen end reform of the criminal justice system, we're going to help people succeed when they return home from jail or prison.
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we're going to band the box so they can be judged by their skills and talents, not by their past. and we will dedicate $5 billion to provide training and support to returning citizens so they can get a good-paying job. and in my first 100 days, i'm going to introduce legislation for comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship -- that's not only the right thing to do, over independent analysis shows it will add hundreds of billions of dollars to our economy. it will also keep families together. we need to bring hard working people out of the shadows. america's always been a place where people from around the world work hard and apply their talents to american growth and innovation in pursuit of their own dreams. so we're going to do everything we can to get this done. we need to build an economy and a future that every american can
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be proud of and be a part of. an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. that will be my mission as president. these are just some of the highlights of our plan. i hope you will go to my website, hillary to read the details. including how we are going to pay for everything i've proposed. and of course, i hope you will compare what i'm proposing to what my opponent is talking about. here's one measure that you could use for that are comparison, an independent economist recently calculated that if my agenda for jobs and growth is put into place, our economy would create at least 10.4 million jobs within four years. we actually think it could be more than that. now this economist also ran the numbers on donald trump.
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inclauding his disastrous and inhumane plan to round up and deport millions of hard work lg immigran immigrants. the result, according to mark zandy who was the economic adviser to john mccain during his 2008 run for the presidency, the result of trump's plans would be a lengthy recession with 3.4 million jobs lost. now of course donald trump's problems go far beyond economics. at every turn, he stokes division and resentment. he says horrible things about one group of americans after another. he's harkening back to the most shameful chapters of our history and appealing to the ugliest impulses of our society. you know the list, you've reported on it. he started this campaign by describing mexican immigrants as
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criminals and rapists. he retweets white nationalists. he says a distinguished federal judge can't be trusted because he is of mexican heritage. he talks about banning muslims from coming to the united states a land built on religious freedom. and yes, he also talking about curtailing press freedom as well. we need to stand up as a country and say in a donald trump doesn't represent who we are and what we believe. that is what my campaign, what tim kaine and i and everyone supporting us is doing every day. oofr and we're going to keep at it, i believe that america is better than this. america is better than donald trump. we just launched an all spanish twitter account because we to want bring as many americans as possible into this conversation.
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we've opened offices in every state, because we want to compete everhere. we want to bring our message and our vision to all corners of our country, but we can't do it alone. everyone reason republican, democrat, and independent needs to stand up and speak out. now i think journalists have a special responsibility to our democracy in a time like this. as idab. wells once said, people must know before they can act and there is no educator to compare to the press. now many of you are showing the way, it's a badge of honor when jorge ramos gets thrown out of press conference for challenging donald trump. [ applause ] or when another news organization gets banned for reporting what he says. as jorge said, the best
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journalism happens when you take a stand. when you denounce injustice. so i hope you'll keep calling it like you see it, keep holding all of us accountable. you know i have laid out all of these plans and i'm well aware that i have been sometimes made fun of for putting out these plans, about the economy and education and criminal justice reform and health care and gun safety measures and all the rest of it, but i do have this old fashioned idea, when you run for president, you ought to tell the voters of america what you would do as president. so, i am going to keep telling you what i would do because i want you to hold me accountable. press and citizens alike. because the stakes are as high as they've ever been in our lifetimes. and we all have to do our part. so thank you for what you do every day. thank you for inviting me to address you today, and i look
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forward to taking some of your questions. thank you all very much. [ applause ] >> plez welcome kristin welker white house correspondent for nbc news, and laurie, national correspondent for telemundo. [ applause ] >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> good afternoon to all of you. what an honor to be here, and it's fantastic to see so many people gathered here for this great conversation. we're going to have with secretary clinton. secretary clinton, thank you for being here today. we really appreciate it. usually i am on the campaign trail with secretary clinton when we're at a crowded event, it's great to have this conversation this afternoon. >> madam secretary, you know so many questions, so little time, i think we should just get right to it. you eluded to the topic that i
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want to ask you about. latinos are very much concerned about the economy, they are concerned about education, they also believe in trust worthiness. i want to start with the topic that i believe will result -- could, you know, tell the future of it after this election. it's immigration reform. many latinos are discouraged by the lack of immigration reform. they believe their vote has been taken for granted. we know what your position is, but what i would like for you to do is to walk us through the steps -- >> right. >> how will you get immigration reform, something that president obama was not able to do so that latinos can believe that something is going to happen. that their vote, again, is not being taken for granted considering that the house, at least the house, will remain under republican control. >> that's a great question. and it's one that i obviously have given much thought to
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because i am determined that we are going to achieve comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship. so here is how i see it. first of all we're going to start immediately. i want this to be a clear, high priority for my administration. we will be prepared to introduce legislation as quickly as we can, do so. i am hoping that the outcome of the election, which i am working hard to ensure a victory, will send a clear message to our republican friends that it's time for them to quit standing in the way of immigration reform. if you remember after the 2012 election, the republican national committee did what they called an autopsy of their loss, and concluded that they could
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not continue to didn't importance of immigration reform and they urged republicans running for office to get on board. now that hasn't turned out the way they seemed to have hoped. we have instead a republican nominee who has been very anti-immigrant. but there's nothing like winning to change minds. ing and i think number one we have al good chance of having a democratic senate, if everybody does what i hope they will do and vote for democratic candidates for the senate. i believe we will pick up some seats in the house and at least, if not take it back, narrow the numbers. if we move in the senate and then we demand that there be a vote in the house because i'm convinced that if the bipartisan bill that had been achieved in
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the senate, remember when marco rubio was for it? and people worked hard and achieved it. if it had been allowed to come for a vote in the house, it would have passed. so i view the political landscape as increasingly favorable to us making this happen. i will defend the president's executive actions. i like you was disappointed with the supreme court decision, but remember what it did. it sent the case back to be tried. it did not determine the case. so daka and dopa are still alive. trump has said one of his first acts as president would be to eliminate every executive order that president obama has signed, including those on immigration issues. so i will defend doka and dopa
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while i work vigorously for immigration reform. i have proposed an office of immigrant affairs for the white house. so that we are able to answer questions and provide information and help people. i will take a very hard look at the deportation priorities, my priority, our violent criminals, people suspected of any kind of connection to terrorism, not hard-working, mothers and fathers and people who go to work, help support this economy, pay $12 billion a year into social security. so we will take a hard look at that. we will close private detention centers. just like i want to end private prisons. we're going to close private detention centers. so i have a very active agenda. and we're going to be moving on it, and i believe, and, you know, obviously it depends upon the outcome of this election, which is whyt's so important to register more voters, my campaign's trying to register
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three million more voters. convince people to turn out because we're going to start early and we're going to be tenacious and absolutely committed to getting a positive result. and i think the chances, once we win, will improve dramatically. >> madam secretary, you spoke about the deportations, president obama, some calling the deporter and chief, you have eluded already your priority will be criminals, how do you walk back the deportations? there are people not criminals that are deported daily from this country. how do you walk back the deportations, comply with the law and not inherit the title of deporter and chief, and at the same time, all these steps to help mobilize the latino community to the polls, many who still believe that their vote was taken for granted in 2008 and 2012, and then we have the e-mails from wikileaks that say that they are the loyalty brand
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of the party. >> well, look, i think that the president was committed to immigration reform. it's one of the reasons we got the bipartisan bill passed in the senate. and what we didn't get though was enough political pressure to turn that bill into a voting issue in the 2010 midterm election. and here's one of my frustrations, people turn out to vote for presidential elections, and then often don't for midterm elections. so we lost -- [ applause ] -- we lost a lot of the leverage because we lost the house of representatives. so nothing happens easily or quickly in modern politics in america, but here's what i know, as i have said, we are not going to be deporting hard-working people and break up families. i've been on record for a year and a half about this, and that
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will be how i direct the department of homeland security to act. we are going to push on immigration reform and i will need not only a considerable vote in november, but i will need people across our country to make it clear to their elected representatives that they are going to be held accountable for how they are going to act on immigration reform. if we put enough organizing and political effort into this, i am optimistic. and i believe we can get this done. but it won't happen simply because we want it, and i can only say that i will give you my very best efforts, and i will do everything i can to help elect a democratic senate, and i've already talked to some of my former colleagues in the senate, this will be fast-tracked. we already know what can pass the senate because it happened just a few years ago.
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and if we then put enough pressure on the house, and do everything we can to really force them to have to take what the senate passes, i think the outcome will be very different this time. and that's my goal and that's what i'm going to do everything i can to achieve. >> thank you, madam secretary. >> your poll numbers went way up this week, and yet, the e-mail controversy was still in the headlines. i want to give you the opportunity to respond. this week you told two separate news organizations that fbi director james comey said, quote, my answers were trutful and what i said is consistent with what i have told the american people. that assertion as you know has been debunked by multiple news organizations that point out that director comey said there's no indication that you lied but to the fbi, but he didn't weigh in on whether or not you were truthful to the american people. my question for you is, are you mischaracterizing director
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comey's testimony and is this not undercutting your efforts to rebuild trust with the american people? >> well, kristin, i appreciate you're asking that because i was pointing out in both of those instances, that the director comey had said that my answers in my fbi interview were truthful. that's really the bottom line here. and i have said during the interview and many other occasions over the past months, that what i told the fbi, which he said was truthful, is consistent with what i have said publicly. so i may have short circuited and for that, i, you know, will try to clarify because i think, you know, chris wallace and i were probably talking past each other because of course, he could only talk to what i had told the fbi and i appreciated that. now i have acknowledged repeatedly that using two e-mail accounts was a


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