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that will do it for me this morning. i'll see you back here at 10:00 a.m. right now my colleague ali vel s v -- velshi. right now on msnbc, a government shutdown looks to be averted, but in a deal struck late last night, congressional lawmakers agreed to a trillion dollar bill to fund the government. now the white house signals it is also expecting a vote on health care this week. plus, hundreds ofhousands marchers hitting thetreets for may day protests across the country and around the world. the annual international workers day demonstrations are expected to draw larger crowds this year with many protesting the policies of president trump. and a deadly shooting in a
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pool party in california has left at least one person dead and seven others injured. but the police are trying to figure out whether it was racially motivated. good morning, everyone. i'm ali velshi at msnbc headquarters in new york. this morning we're learning details of a bipartisan deal reached overnight to end the threat of a government shutdown. now this comes with the latest deadline looming on friday night. if approved, this agreement would fund the government through september when the current fiscal year ends. but already potential trouble. listen to congressman jim jordan of ohio. he's a funding member of the hard line freedom caucus. >> money goes to planned parenthood as you said. money continues to go to sanctuary cities but no money for the border wall. plus it maintains for every dollar spent in defense money you have to give the democrats more money in non-defense. that's not what we campaigned on, so i'm disappointed. we'll see how it plays out this week, but you'll see conservatives have concerns with this legislation. >> and nbc news' capitol hill
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correspondent kasie hunt is joining us. you heard from jim jordan telling us what is in the deal and what is not? >> reporter: sure. we talked about keeping this open, $1.2 trillion overall. now, some of the key items in here, $14.8 billion in new defense spending, a total of $25 billion over the previous fiscal year. we have $1.5 billion for border security, $2 billion for nih, and continued funding for planned parenthood. so frankly, as important as what is in this deal is what's not in it, primarily money that is explicitly outlined for that border ll. that's what democrats sort of had the most concern about as the president kind of started talking about this deal in such a way that kind of put the negotiations on hold. that's why they had to pass the temporary spending bill that has sent us to this week. they were supposed to have finished this last week, but as
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for what congressman jordan was saying, it is possible that republicans lose conservative votes on this deal. but we have republicans and democrats out there praising the content. democrats do feel they got some of what they wanted in this spending package. so there's no real indication that this is in trouble. you're likely to see the house pass it first, likely earlier in the week, before sending it over to the senate and then on to the president's desk. >> jim jordan sort of implying in that interview, we'll see what is in it, meaning conservatives may not like it, but you're thinking it doesn't really matter. >> it's different than health care, right? they are trying to do a health care bill. we have been talking a lot about the house freedom caucus and somebody like jim jordan saying that could raise a flag if you were talking about the health care bill. but in this case, because there not just trying to pass it with republican votes, they have a lot more leeway. so conservatives could revolt on this potentially and mean nothing for the ultimate fate of the bill.
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that's very different from most of the conversations about big legislative priorities, things the president wants to do, only with republican votes. >> casey, good to talk to you on capitol hill. we'll see what the white house is saying, not only about this deal, but about a possible vote this week on a revised plan to reveal and replace obamacare. peter alexander is joining us live from the white house. peter, i feel like every week we start off with some threat or promise of the repeal and replace legislation. >> reporter: yeah, i think that is right. we have heard that a lot. as i heard from senior advisers in recent days, they are careful not to create artificial deadline to set themselves up for potential failure. let's be clear, they are not going to vote until they believe they have the votes. we did hear from the president's economic adviser this morning saying he's optimistic and thinks they have the votes. going further than others to say they think they have the vote over the course of the week. that remains to be seen right now. but specifically on health care, we did hear a little bit of conflict in messaging from the
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white house. the amendment that is being discussed right now on capitol hill does not necessarily protect those with pre-existing conditions. they wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed coverage right now. states among other things could opt out of this. but this is what we heard from the president when he spoke this weekend to cbs news. take listen. >> pre-existing conditions are in the bill. and i just watched another network than yours, and they were saying pre-existing is not covered. pre-existing conditions are in the bill. and i mandated it. i said it has to be. >> reporter: in that conversation, the president also said he guarantees that it's included in the health care bill that will come out of congress right now. but to be clear, it doesn't have to be the present version as it exists. he said a heavy priority is being focused on the pools for high risk individuals, including the individuals with pre-existing conditions right now where the federal government, in effect, would
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help subsidize them. but suffice to say, there's a lot of work that still needs to be done to better clarify that confusion. peter, let's talk more a minute about the funding deal. it's a bipartisan deal to fund the federal government through center. no money for the border wall. no cuts that the president wanted for the national institutes of health and planned parenthood. doesn't cut funding to sanctuary cities in the way that attorney general sessions and the president have been promising. what is the white house saying about this? >> well, they are still praising it as positive and feel real good right now as we hear from them over the course of this day about the additional money and the spending for the military, also money to be spent on border security as an adviser described it to us. this is, in effect, a down payment on border security right now. in many ways, they believe this is a precursor to the construction of the wall down the road. but be clear, democrats are also pouncing on this as a victory because the language, specifically that word "wall" is not included anywhere in there. >> peter, good to see you. thank you for joining us. peter alexander at the white
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house. we'll check with him throughout the day. may day protests are happening around the world. hundreds of thousands are expected to march here in the united states on what is also known as international workers day. every may 1st demonstrators hold global rallies in support of workers and labor unions. this year organizers expect an increase in the number of rallies due to the outrage over some of president trump's policies affecting not only workers but immigrants, women and the lgbt community. some participants will be walking off the job and boycotting businesses to join a day without immigrant strikes as well. nbc's ron allen is at union square in new york city right now where a protest will get underway in just a little while. ron, what are you expecting? >> reporter: well, ali, we're not sure. we're expecting thousands of people, we're told, by the organizers, coming here about 60 different groups are mobilizing here. they are just getting started and put up speakers. there's a stage. there are a number of people here who have come.
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over here, there's a bunch of posters and banners to say things like "black lives matter," and "stop deportation." it's a long list of grievance, if you will, that go beyond workers and labor rights. joining me is lena who is the -- i'm sorry, i missed that, one of the workers of the group. what is the message you're trying to get out today? >> different groups are planning the meeting at union square. they are coming together as international immigrants, migrant groups, progressive labor unions, anti-national federation groups. >> reporter: you're asking people to walk off the job, this is a strike? >> yes, the message is to shut it down, strike. migrants, refugees and all workers. because migrants and refugees are directly impacted in the working class under trump's administration that are facing deportations, militarization.
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>> reporter: much of this is about opposition to the trump administration. you can go down the list of grievances, i saw lists on syria, immigration, workers, womens' rights, so on and so forth. >> yes, we are definitely protesting the trump administration but acknowledging the war that has been going on at home here in the united states and also abroad has proceeded trump. you know, thousands of immigrants have been deported under previous presidents. and they have also been ongoing attacks in the middle east before trump was president. >> reporter: thank you very much. so a very broad agenda. we'll see how successful the call for strikes is. you have to look at this as a continuum, there have been so many protests and strikes in new york and other cities since the trump administration came into washington at the white house. again, long list of grievances, but they are trying to keep up the momentum and want the grievances aired. we'll see, this could be one of the largest protests in the country today. >> ron, thank you so much. ron allen, we'll check in with
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you later as the protests get underway in new york city and other cities. we'll bring in two other guests, christine newman ortiz in milwaukee, and david werta, thank you to both of you. christine, we'll start with you. today is a call for social justice no matter who you are. back in february, some businesses closed without a boy c ko cott. tell me why that is important to do today. >> as you mentioned, it does represent an escalation of the movement. in february of this year in wisconsin, tens of thousands of people went out on a general community-wide strike that then in february '16 was a popular uprising. and may 1st really represents another escalation and now it
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has much wider, broader organizational support and does incorporate the idea of using our collective economic power as consumers, as workers, as small business owners as a tool in terms of beating back these efforts by the trump administration to impose these unconstitutional and discriminatory efforts on law enforcement. and immigration is breaking up families and rolling back decades of civil rights victories by essentially legalizing racial profiling. >> david, your union has been calling on congress to pass immigration reform. they are calling on the administration to revive the 2013 comprehensive immigration reform bill and tackle this issue. as a humane pragmatic, i can ask
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christine this, too, do you think the rallies and efforts make any difference to those people in congress who want to do the things that you don't want them to do? >> of course. i think right now we have seen, starting with the woman's march on january 21st and the immigration, the march against the immigration ban, the march as we saw last week with the climate change, and now with may 1st, today, these marches are having an impact. and we really feel that the resistance is broadening and gaining momentum and continues to be a voice of opposition to an agenda that is hostile, not only to immigrants, but to a cross section of the united states. so we think it is having an impact. and we hope that we can continue to build this momentum and to continue to fight against the deportation and separation of families, especially in our immigrant communities. >> christine, i'm going to ask you the same question, the progressives split their vote. donald trump got elected.
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what, other than making people participate in the marches, actually moves the needle? you said there's an escalation, but when ron interviewed that woman, she listed a litany of things she thought she was protesting including the bombing of syria and including middle east policy here before trump. at some point, what does it actually do? >> i think those issues aren't tied together. it isn't just a laundry list. and the biggest example of this is we are facing right now a federal budget. and we look at that budget, that budget is a budget for war, it's a budget for the deportation, mass deportation, and it's taking away vital resources from health care from education and the sentiment in this country is enough is enough. we need health care for all. we need free higher education. we need more money in our public schools.
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and this day is an important way to unite the forces. because we are saying we generate the wealth in this country and we should determine what the priorities are. >> again, christine, i'm asking you, what does it end up doing? because it didn't work, the concept of free higher education, as deer ar as it may to some of their hearts, the democrats couldn't get it on the platform. that was not half the battle. so what does this do? >> well, i think, you know, it's one thing we try to really inform our community about is that one march, one rally doesn't win a battle. it's a series of activities. and for me right now in the movement, in the immigrant rights movement, we have really seen tremendous progress, because a lot of what we're seeing reflected with the court channels and so forth are coming directly, because people are organizing at a very local level. whether that is defending sanctuary policies, which i think are absolutely essential, whether that is engaging your local chief of police or your sheriff to say, please standout,
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to say you value community trust and public safety over trying to be an arm of immigration. and all of that matters. and challenging as people did at the airport or in these mass protests. it says, it gives visibility. and it also gives a face to who is being attacked when people see immigrant families marching with their children. that has always been a very powerful statement. and that they are not marching alone. that they are standing side by side. >> david, mayday is historically about labor in some countries, what is the conversation specifically we need to be having about jobs right now? >> well, look, i think everybody wants a good job. i don't think that is the issue that is specific to unionized members. everybody wants a good job, but we have to look at the broader aspect of justice in this country and what we're fighting for. i think it is not just about a job, but it is also about do we
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value black lives. do we value immigrant workers? do we value a woman's right to choose? do we value having clean air or clean soil, clean water? those thing that is we value, are we willing to fight for them? and i think that is what the resistance is about, what do we value and what are we willing to stand up for? we all get a job, but we also want to live in safe, clean air, clean communities, and without hostility. and i think what we have seen out of the trump agenda up to this point has been an agenda of hostility. and i think that is what the resistance is, uniting people in resistance. we are fighting solidarity in our difference, but we are united in our resistance. and that is what you're seeing right now happening across the country. and we really think this momentum we're building now is going to continue to build in 2018. we just saw them pass a budget right now that all the secrets that the trump administration is talking about is not include in
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this budget. they didn't build in for the wall, sanctuary cities are in place, planned parenthood is being funded, so obviously the resistance is having an impact we can tell just by what congress did yesterday and last night. >> david, thank you very much for that. christine, thank you for the discussion. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. still ahead, new comments this morning from president trump on north korea. >> how is north korea weighing on you now? >> well, it weighs, but we have to be prepared for the worst. we have to be prepared to do what we have to do. >> we have to be prepared to do what we have to do. this as the north issues a new threat over the nuclear wars while japan sends its bigst warship to join the u.s. warships. plus, more than two dozen people were hospitalized after their flight hit violent turbulence. more on the terrifying moments in the sky when we come back. stay with us.
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we are back with a new threat by north korea. president trump had this to say about north korea and the possibility of a new nuclear test. >> i would not be happy if he does a nuclear test. i will not be happy. and i can tell you also, i don't believe that the president of china, who is a very respected
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man, will be happy either. >> not happy mean military action? >> i don't know. i mean, we'll see. >> nbc's kelly cobiella is joining us from seoul, south korea. kelly, this comes after north korea's failed missile test on saturday. and cia director mike mom ppomp south korea today. how are people reacting to this new provocation? >> reporter: well, we're not hearing much, ali, about the meetings with cia director mike pompeo and the folks he's meeting with here. this is how much we know at this point. this was an unplanned trip. he's heir in seoul with his wife, we are told. and he's meeting with u.s. officials here in south korea and with embassy officials, talking strategy after this failed missile test over the weekend. this is something that is getting a lot of attention here. you know, there's an election just about a week away, a presidential election here in south korea. one thing we haven't been told
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is who or how many people with south korea, the cia director, is meeting. we do know he won't be meeting with any of the presidential candidates for sort of obvious reasons. that's a touchy subject visiting another country meeting with prmp candida presidential candidates. >> the president said the thaad missile system in south korea has to be paid for by south koreans and he may want to renegotiate a deal with the south koreans. h.r. mcmaster assured him that the united states will, in fact, pay for the new defense missile system being deployed there. how is that all going over? >> reporter: well, i think that has gone a long way to reassure the south koreans. this is a real contentious issue here in south korea. there are people here who do not want to see thaad deployed here.
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it is not a huge part of the population but it is significant. some of the presidential candidates have come out against it as well, or at least said, look, this is something that should be a decision that should be held over for the new president after the elections. so to have h.r. mcmaster come in to make this phone call over the weekend, talk to his counterpart, reassure the south koreans about the importance of the south korea/u.s. alliance as well as saying, look, we are going to stick by this deal. we are going to pay, shoulder the burden, that $1 billion of deployment and operation of thaad. i think that went a long way for the south koreans to hear that message. >> kelly cobiella in seoul, south korea. joining me now is mara, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> japan is sending in a warship to join the strike force that the united states has.
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so there's no way one can look at this and not think that there is an escalation going on in korea. >> well, the united states and japan certainly do conduct regular contingency. but there's no question that tensions have been ramping up over the course of the last few weeks. part of what remains a big unknown is what exactly the united states is achieving with its policy with respect to north korea and denuclearization. we saw rex tillerson give clarifying remarks at the u.n. security council. but the president in a recent interview suggested other elements in u.s. policy that seemed deeply at odds with what tillerson himself said, such as suggesting that south korea has to pay for its own missile test. >> then the president said this, what could be interpreted as praise for kim jong-un. listen to this. >> at a very young age, we was a i believe to assume power. i assume a lot of people tried
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to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anyone else, and he was able to do it. obviously, he's a pretty masmar cookie. >> called him a smart cookie, what is that to be? >> i have two different explanations for this. one could be the fact that president trump hopes to end up in some sort of diplomatic engagement with kim jong-un before too long. >> which vice president pence implied. >> first vice president pence said no way to negotiations. but then the vice president and the secretary of the state suggested they could happen before too long. so it is possible that the president is sort of trying to ply him with compliments in hopes of getting concessions out of him later, though it is worth noting that kim jong-un showed no interest in negotiating. more than likely it would seem this is just the next in the president's long line of lavishing praise on dictators in general. he's had a pension to deep praise on everyone from xi jinping of china to his favorite, vladimir putin. it could be that he has another fascination with a strong man in
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north korea. >> and he has -- he had what aids are calling a very friendly phone call with rogrigo duterte, the president of the philippines. >> the philippines is a long-standing ally, but duterte was elected just last june, but since then has been perpetrating campaign of extrajudicial killings against folks in the philippines who are believed to be connected to the drug trade, drug users in the philippines. while the philippines is a long-standing ally, duterte is highly controversial because of his dismal rights record. and the fact that president trump invited him to the white house does appear to countenance duterte's behavior. >> tell me about the significance. we have figured out the relationship with south korea and the dangers of north korea. tell me about the significance of a closer or colder relationship with the philippines? >> well, the philippines has traditionally been the lynch pin of the u.s. strategy in the
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south china sea. during the obama administration, the president and his top aides negotiated rotational base access in the philippines so that the united states could have access to places like the south china sea more quickly if they needed it. and in general, it's been an increasingly strong relationship. but since duterte took office, the relationship has chilled in large part because the obama administration decided to stand back given his deeply problematic extrajudicial -- >> and then he went and criticized president obama. so that was not warm and fuzzy. >> not just the president, but others. there's the question that over the long term the united states and philippines should continue to have a mutually beneficial relationship, keeping praise on duterte himself and extending an invitation to him to visit the united states is deeply controversial for good reason. >> and president duterte according to "the new york times" says he may not accept the president's invitation to visit the white house because he
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was tied one a busy schedule. he said, i cannot make a definite promise and added i'm supposed to go to russia and israel. so now he's playing hard to get with the white house. >> maybe he is a smart cookie. >> he is a smart cookie. good to see you. mira with the asia pacific program at the nonpartisan center of a new american security. good to see you. >> good to see you, ali. police in san diego are investigating why a man suddenly opened fire at a pool party. that tops our look at stories around the news nation this morning. one woman was killed and seven others injured as the suspect identified as peter selis began to open fire at an apartment complex on up sunday. he appeared to be reloading his gun on sunday when officers opened fire and killed him. authorities are not calling this racially motivated, but nearly all the victims were african-american or latino. the suspect was white. crews in arkansas are searching for two missing children swept away in this
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weekend's deadly severe weather. several tornadoes, heavy rains and winds left widespread destruction in five states and the midwest. at least 15 people were killed. right now crews are going door-to-door looking for survivors. forecasters say river flooding will continue through the week. and at least 27 passengers are recovering after their plane encountered clear air turbule e turbulence. passengers not seated were thrown to the ceiling on the fight from moscow to thailand. some of the passengers were seen in the aisle. some were unconscious. the clear air turbulence is something that can happen without warning. it's very difficult to anticipate. and hollywood studios are on edge today after a hacker released alleged stolen episodes of the feet netflix show "orange is the new black" ahead of the scheduled premier. and they are threatening to release episodes from other networks. more on that threat, next.
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>> hollywood is on edge this morning. a writers' strike is set to begin if a deal is not reached by midnight. the writers guild is set to resume negotiations this morning
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including a proposed increase to the writers' health care plan. nbc universal is a member of the alliance. another reason for hollywood studios to be on ledge is the alleged hacking of netflix. according to someone calling themselves the dark overlord, the upcoming season of the popular netflix series "orange is the new black" was stolen and several episodes were uploaded to a file-sharing site when netflix reportedly refused to pay the ransom demands. now other studios are being threatened by the same cyber criminal. joining me now is shaun henry from crowd strike services and an msnbc contributor and former executive director of the fbi. shawn, they will me what you know about this, how does a thing like this happen? >> i think there are three big points to take from this particular incident. first of all, we are seeing these cyber criminals using extortion, much more frequently. where they are sometimes going into databases, they are
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encrypting the entire database, and extorting the company for the keys to unlock that data. and they are asking them for anywhere from thousands of dollars to tens of thousands of dollars, in some case, hundreds of thousands of dollars. secondly, i think we're looking at a business that was targeted, not netflix. so it was not netflix itself that was breached. >> just to be clear, we're talking about what we call post-production house, where the production goes to get all the finishing touches put on it. >> that's right. so in this case, we're talking about a vendor they utilize in order to put their products together. that is very challenging when we think about what is the risk that companies are facing. the interconnectivity of these networks, it requires that companies have some connectivity. it's not good enough now to put a wall around your company and ensure your perimeter is secure. you have to worry about the companies you're doing business with. because if they are breached and have access to your network because you granted them access,
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then you become susceptible to an attack. it looks like they were targeted and now netflix will be suffering because it will be released publicly. >> we'll set aside the hacking and talk about the ransom. often these demands are made in ways authorities find hard to track and the payment is often demanded in block-chain payments like bitcoin. so the whole operation, a lot of companies have found they have gone to the police with these things and the police said, we can't really help you. >> yeah, that's exactly right. what the actors are doing is using bitcoin or some other online currency. it used to be using western union and there would be wire transfers, which were much easier from the law enforcement perspective for us to track down, obviously, we were able to follow the money, it would be easier to identify who the suspects were. in this particular case, they are using online currencies, which are completely anonymous, they are not able to. and the companies, if they don't have the proper defenses in
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place or don't have the ability to actually reconstitute data, oftentimes they are forced to pay the demands. what companies need to do is become much more proactive and try to detect the attacks before the actors can encrypt the data or steal the data. if they detect the attacks by being proactive, oftentimes they are able to prevent and mitigate consequences. >> but to your earlier point in a case like this, netflix may have thought it was proactive and had good perimeter security. but when it comes through a vendor, that's the story of so many american companies. i think of car companies, there's nothing but vendors. the car company just assembles the things and vendors sell them. >> you're absolutely right. that's one of the issues going forward where companies as part of the negotiation with vendors are going to be looking, not just at price and service and products they are developing, but they are also going to be looking at the security that they are employing. we're working with companies now that as part of their due diligence, they are doing assessments of evaluations of cyber security before they
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connect with them. because they recognize they have a significant vulnerability themselves if they don't ensure the trusted vendors have adequate capabilities in place. >> good to talk to you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, ali. the fight over health care could be ramping back up this week as the white house signals it's expecting a vote soon. but what will the new changes mean to the bill for those with pre-existing conditions? coming up next, i'll ask the man who ran the centers for medicare and medicaid under president obama. touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. there's nothing more important than your health. so if you're on medicare or will be soon, you may want more than parts a and b here's why. medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you.
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congress could be just days away from appealing and replacing obamacare. reince priebus said they are not far away from signing the bill. >> i think it's important to know for the listeners as well, this goes through the house and senate, this will be one of the fastest pieces of significant that inture legislation to go through for a president since roosevelt, i believe. >> republicans are looking forward to bringing up their bill this week. now that several of the more conservative members have signed on last week, but some moderates are not convinced. joining me is the former active director for the centers of medicare and medicaid under president obama. he's now adviser for the senior policy center. good to see you.
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coverage for pre-existing conditions is key for moderates. in an interview with cbs, president trump claimed coverage for pre-existing conditions is not changing. here's one part of the interview. >> in one of those discussed is preexisting optional for the states. >> sure. in one of the fixes. >> so permanent. >> of course. this has -- >> that is a development, sir. so you're saying it will be pre-existing for everyone. >> this has evolved over a period of three to four weeks. now we really have a good bill. i think they could have voted on friday. i say, just relax. don't worry about the phony 100-day thing. >> just relax, don't worry about the phony 100-day thing. andy, the mcarthur amendment that persuaded some of the house freedom caucus members to support the bill, allowed states to obtain a waiver very easily that would allow them to charge higher premiums for people with pre-existing conditions. so what is it, is it what president obama says, if you have pre-existing conditions, nothing has changed? or are things changing for those
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with pre-existing conditions? >> thank you for having me on, ali. right. let's remember that today, the affordable care act makes it illegal to discriminate against anybody who has had a pre-existing condition. what the current bill in front of the house does is it essentially, as you just said, eliminates that protection. it makes it easy for anyone in the state to apply to get that protection eliminated so the federal protection disappears. so unless president trump has details that no one else in america has, what he said wasn't correct. >> all right. tell me how this works, a state applies for a waiver for one of very many reasons, apparently it's quite easy to get, and all that has to happen when a state applies for the waiver is that the federal government has to not respond in a certain amount of time and the state gets the waiver. so now what happens, how does the state deal with people who are the most expensive? the ones with pre-existing conditions, old, or sick? >> well, look, let's just go back to what life was like
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before 2009. back then if you had a child with asthma or a history of cancer, insurance companies were allowed to make you answer a lot of personal questions about your health. they were allowed to charge you more for your health care coverage. and under certain circumstances now, the state will be able to do that, particularly in cases where someone doesn't keep continuous coverage. so a lot of the advances that i think many americans have counted on and sort of put behind them, those days of underwriting, would indeed come back. >> so we have heard from, for instance, paul ryan, saying that maine and wisconsin and places like this have high-risk pools to deal with this sort of thing. how does that deal with this sort of thing? and people can go into some kind of high-risk pool, won't they still pay more for the insurance? >> yeah. i mean, i think we got to be careful in what is going on right now is a lot of people are throwing around a lot of buzz words, if they really believe that this is going to take care of people with pre-existing
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conditions, it's simple. they would hold hearings and would allow the cbo to do the impartial evaluation. no one should take my word for it. no one should take any politicians word for it. and i think the bipartisan congressional budget office would lay it out pretty clearly. high-risk pools have really, not a very good history at providing coverage to people. most people, if you ask them, would you like to be in a high-risk pool and have the additional costs and different kind of access to care that everyone else has, they would say no. but, of course, people who are pushing this bill look at that and say, well, that allows us to check the box and say there's a way for people to get covered. it doesn't work. >> andy, good to talk to you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. coming up next, the first latina woman ever elected to congress makes a stunning announcement. she'll retire at the end of her term. mark murray will join me to break down how this is a major gain for democrats in the house. plus, it is never too early
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to talk about 2020 as new and familiar names emerge over the weekend, including mark zuckerberg. he's making it clear he has no plans to run for president. >> even though i know i caused a lot of speculation, guys, i'm not running, okay? i know it caused a lot of speculation. ♪
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we are back with our daily briefing on politics. this morning, new speculation will possible candidates ahead of the 2020 presidential election. we're talking about former vice president joe biden and facebook founder mark zuckerberg. politico reports the former vice president and his staff have been planning a strategic time line in the event he decides to run. speculation swirled when he spoke in battleground new hampshire last night. mark zuckerberg visited indiana along with the battleground states of michigan, ohio and wisconsin this weekend. he has visited at least ten states since january. joining me now is senior political editor mark murray. what can can you tell us about the speculation surrounding vice president biden? >> well, ali, whenever a politician goes toe new hampshire, or iowa, it always
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raises eyebrows. former vice president joe biden told the audience na hey, i am not running. although it was in the present tense. take a listen to what he had to say. >> when i got asked by ray to come up here, there wasn't a doubt in my mind, even though i know it caused a lot of speculation. guys, i'm not running, okay? >> and so ali, all of a sudden, you heard what vice president biden had to say there. he would if he decides to run in 2020 have some strengths and weaknesses. in his late 70s by 2020. we have more than 1200 days to go before election day 2020. >> what about mark zuckerberg, his weekend that included traveling to parts of the midwest? >> he had dinner with a family in ohio. that would also raise eyebrows for a lot of political reporters and analysts. this is part of his effort to go to all 50 states.
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he was dining with democrats who voted for donald trump. and you know, on the other hand, while someone like joe biden would be in his late 70s, mark is in his early 30s. as "the new york times" wrote, there might be scores of democrats running in 2020. the good news is we have a long, long time to go to examine and kick all their tires. >> republican congresswoman ileana ros-lehtinen of florida is retiring at the end of her term next year. is there an opportunity for democrats. >> very big. hillary clinton won this district in the 2016 midterms. while there's been so much discussion about a lot of the rural midwest districts and states that donald trump was able to win in 2016, this is urban america that the congresswoman represents. and would be a prime and key pickup opportunity. democrats need more than 20 pickups to take back the house of representatives. this one if they're successful and there's still a ways to go, would be part of the way to get them there. >> mark, thank you so much.
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till fall without funding that wall. but the white house still hopes to bring back health care from the dead. >> this is going to be a great week. we're going to get health care down to the floor of the house. we're convinced we've got the votes and we're going to keep moving on with our agenda. >> i'm an optimistic person. >> do you have the votes. >> i think it will happen this week. >> prepared for the worst. president trump ratcheted up his rhetoric against north korea while complementing the rogue state's brutal young dictator. >> at a young age he was able to assume power. i'm sure a lot of people tried to take that power away whether it was his uncle or anybody else. he was able to do it. so obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie. >> and disconnected. despite all evidence from the fbi and cia, the president sticks to his claim that former president obama wiretapped him at trump tower. >> you're the president of the united states. i said he was sick and bad base
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attempted -- >> you can take it any way you want. >> but i'm asking you. i want to hear it from president trump. >> you don't have to ask me. i have my own opinions. >> i want to know your opinions. you're the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president trump was bristling when pressed about his charge that president obama wiretap him at trump tower, a charge widely discredited by officials including why he called his predecessor sick and bad. >> did president obama give you any advice that was helpful? that you think wow -- >> he was very nice to me. after that, we've had some difficulties. >> you called him sick and bad. >> look, you can figure it out yourself. >> you stand by that claim about him. >> you can take it the way you want. i think our