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attempted -- >> you can take it any way you want. >> but i'm asking you. i want to hear it from president trump. >> you don't have to ask me. i have my own opinions. >> i want to know your opinions. you're the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president trump was bristling when pressed about his charge that president obama wiretap him at trump tower, a charge widely discredited by officials including why he called his predecessor sick and bad. >> did president obama give you any advice that was helpful? that you think wow -- >> he was very nice to me. after that, we've had some difficulties. >> you called him sick and bad. >> look, you can figure it out yourself. >> you stand by that claim about him. >> you can take it the way you want. i think our side's been proven
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strongly. >> you're the president of the united states. you said he was sick and bad. >> you can take it any way you want. >> but i'm asking you. you don't want it to be fake news. >> you don't have to ask me. >> why not? >> because i have my own opinions. you can have your own opinions. >> you're the president of the united states. >> that's enough. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> joining me now, nbc's kristen welker at the white house and nbc's kasie hunt on capitol hill. kristin, that was a moment, an extraordinary moment with john dickerson of cbs. the president sicking to his guns on surveillance but not backing it up. >> reporter: you're absolutely right. it is a contention widely discredited but i think it underscores a couple points. one, while president obama was still in office, you had that oval office meeting between these two leaders. president obama, former president obama had said he wanted to stay in touch with president trump. we know that they haven't spoken
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since the inauguration. now, officials close to both of them say the reason for that doesn't have anything to do with these tensions but the reality is, we have seen tensions mount since that inauguration and ever since president trump launched that allegation against the former president. but what dickerson was asking him was quite interesting which is who can really fact check the president and point out his weak spots? who can help him kind of make some of these very difficult decisions particularly as it relates to north korea. and the president essentially said that that is a skill that he got, he thinks, before he ever got into office. and so it's sort of elevates and shines a light on that aspect of how he is leading now. he just marked 100 days in office and approaching a number of crises. we know these two leaders have not been in contact and a
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comment like that will likely only further inflame the situation. >> understandably. and kasie hunt, still a major victory right now for the republicans on the hill and the white house in that they control all branches of government other than judiciary that they certainly control both ends of pennsylvania avenue and do i have a deal to continue government funding through september. >> reporter: that's right. they do. that. coming out overnight with of this package that was supposed to have come together last week. it took them a little bit of extra time partly because there was a brief diversion into a discussion about the border wall funding. that is not in this final bill. and the reality is, what makes this different from some of these other big pushes that the president's made on capitol hill? this one will likely pass with democratic votes. there are already conservatives saying they have concerns about this spendinging about. the freedom caucus, for example, but that's not going to matter as much in this context. it's as much about what's not in
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the bill as what is. that border wall critically no changes to planned parenthood, no changes for funding for sanctuary cities. major defense spending increase but a little bit less than maybe what some republicans had wanted. there's $15 billion in new spending on defense in this bill. and overall increase of $25 billion on the last fiscal year. it does look like this is going to sail through congress this week at this point which, of course, averts that crisis they didn't want to deal with, republicans, democrats, house senate not wanting to deal with a shutdown. >> they didn't wipe out epa and they didn't wipe out hih funding for basic science, research, medical care. health care, let me ask both of you, first, to kristin, we saw gary cohn and reince priebus predicting they have enough of a compromise to have the votes even with the opt outs?
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>> well, that is what they are saying publicly. the reality is, andrea, at this hour, it's not clear they do have all the votes. they are very hopeful. there's a branch within the white house that wants to seats a vote this week. but of course, there are some other top officials here who i've been speaking with who are a little bit concerned about this being rushed through again and having another defeat of this new effort to try to reform health care. so while they're saying publicly and trying to strike that note of confidence that they have enough votes as casey's been pointing out and she can elaborate on, they'll hold an actual vote when they know they have the votes to get it passed. >> and that's what the speaker has been saying. we'll call the votes when we have the votes. and this time, we're hearing from the white house, we're not relying on the speaker. we're going to run this one. last time it collapsed. but the speaker really is the one who has whip counters. >> that's right. look, i do think you know, when the last -- when the bill was
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pulled last time, there was obviously some very tense meetings between the president and the speaker and president trump demanded a vote about the speaker said that's really not a good idea. please let us pull this and give it another chance, life potentially down the road. i will say my sources talking to them today they're more optimistic than late last week that they can figure something out trying to solve the problem of moderate votes is easier for the leadership than trying to get those recalcitrant conservatives on board because this is by and large a group of people that wants to be with speaker ryan. they want to help him govern. they typically are more comfortable with the team that he has around him and just the way the house works in general. so that works to their advantage. of course, the problem is that these are members that are potentially vulnerable to challenges from democrats for re-election. and that is a very complicated calculus. leadership would like to let some of these moderates not have to vote for this.
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that all centers around pre-existing conditions and the fact that the new version of this bill would let states allow insurers to charge people with pre-existing conditions a lot more money for their care. >> thank you both so much. msnbc political analyst michael steele is the former chairman of the republican nationrepublican national committee, of course. the trump party celebrated at harrisburg at the campaign style rally on saturday night. they've got a new campaign video to celebrate 100-days and all their achievements. yet there's so much push/pull with the congressional party and the various wings of that party that the speaker is trying to hold together. >> you set up this dynamic perfectly in your conversations just now because what you do see is the president going out before his base and saying all these things and really you
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know, reiterating and restoring that campaign energy and rhetoric. at the same time, his team has backed a budget bill that does exactly the opposite of everything that he is still on a platform and preached about. epa only saw 1% cut in its budget. you did not defund planned parenthood. there is no building of a wahl. so the reckoning will come. i think what the trump administration is doing particularly with the president is relying on that old time feeling, that old time religion that got him elected to keep that base in check while they try to maneuver and negotiate on the back end their way out of what will be a very sticky and difficult conversation. right now, paul ryan has the upper hand because of exactly what you just said, that legislative piece will be the dominant piece, not just on the budget which will be relived in the fall but right now on health care this week, you've got democrats on board. what does that tell you, andrea?
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the democrats are on board on a health care vote, that is not something that is going to stack up in line with what donald trump had told his base coming into this election. >> and what does he know about what's in that health care bill? this was part of that conversation on cbs this morning. >> pre-existing conditions are in the bill. and iman dated it. i said has to be. >> one of the texts it was discussed pre-existing was optional for the states. >> sure in one of the fixes. they're changing it. >> it's going to be permanent. >> course. >> so you're saying it's going to be pre-existing for everybody? >> this has evolved over a period of three or four weeks. >> pre-existing can't be optional and mandated. they can't exist in the same world. so either your bill and your strategy is going to allow those families out there who have pre-existing conditions to be part of the system or you're going to give options, waivers to the states to take those
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families out of the health care insurance pool because they have a pre-existing condition. you can't have both. >> on foreign policy, the president makes a call. he apparently has guidance from the national security council not from the state department but from the nse before he makes some of these calls in southeast asia. makes a call to the dictator in the philippines who has said things like if he could catch a terrorist, he would eat his liver. >> right. >> and called president obama the son of a whore. meaning the cancellation of a presidential visit back then. and so he calls the leader of the philippines and freelances. he invites him to the u.s. to come to the oval office which was not in the talking points. >> not in the talking points. it wasn't on anyone's drawing board to go down this road. they thought, certainly the state department, that this was a courtesy call you make that the president's been making to many heads of state. but then this kind of went off rails.
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now you have your state department, your national security team sort of playing catchup which is never a good thing. two, from what we understand, they're going to be background conversations to sort of dial this back as quickly as possible because the president cannot afford to be yet again associated with a dictator and bad guy who has not worked in the best interests of the united states but more importantly worked in the best interests of his own people. >> what is this affinity for strong men? vladimir putin,er doe wan evening saying kim jong-un is a smart cookie because he's murdered the competitors. and now deterritory? >> you know, i guess there's something that triggers in trump this sense that these individuals represent strength and power. he clearly has a healthy respect for that. the problem is you need to turn the switch completely on where
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you can dissect the dooeg to which that strength and power is used for good or used for bad. >> there's an interview, a radio interview playing out today on sirius xm a sit down with the washington examiner. this is what the president had to say about one of his heroes, andrew jackson. >> i said, when was andrew jackson who was 1828, that's a long time ago, they love andrew jackson in tennessee. >> he's a fascinating man. >> had he been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was -- he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart and he was -- he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he aid there's no reason for this. >> i think he's rewriting history. i'm going to consult john meacham go back to the books. >> i don't think that was -- if he said there's no reason for
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this, it was probably because of the resistance by the norm, not so much what the south was doing. again, there's a clear lack of understanding of the history of this country, particularly with matters related to race and civil rights and the civil war. and i think that this aggrandizement of jackson is okay, fine, i get it. again, the strength is the guy who was cutting his own path. >> the populist campaigner. he said elsewhere his campaign was like mine. >> the policies behind the man and the man himself say something very different. >> michael steele, thank you very much for restoring the first republican president. i believe abraham lincoln to his rightful place in history. >> lincoln would be a good starting point for trump, not andrew jackson. >> coming up, tapped out. more on president trump standing by the obama spying allegations. former deputy director of the cia john mclachlan joining me
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i think that's a very big topic and it's a topic that should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on. >> president trump still talking about surveillance at trump tower still blaming president obama despite the evidence that's presented by the fbi and the cia.
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joining me now is john mclachlan, acting director of cia now at johns hopkins university. from everything we're hearing from the intelligence community and even from republicans, and democrats on the intelligence committees, this just didn't happen. what -- how do you explain the disconnect the president still seems to believe that president obama somehow surveilled him? >> it's a complete mystery to me when i reread what the intelligence community said with my confidence. it's very hard to deny that this happened. i think we're at the point where the president's smartest answer to this would be look, the russians appear to have done something in our election. let's finds out through the investigations exactly what happened. and there's basic four things that have to be found out. how extensive was their involvement, were there flew americans involved, how did they weaponize this by hooking up with wikileaks and how can we prevent it in the future because
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we have elections in a couple of years. that's what he should be saying. >> he's trying to develop a new relationship with china but he's so refuses to acknowledge russia's involvement. listen to this from cbs. >> if you don't catch a hacker, okay, in the act, it's very hard to say who did the hacking. with that being said, i'll go along with russia. could have been china and a lot of different groups. >> president trump is not sure. >> we have to find out what happened. >> again, throwing shade it could have been china or anybody. rather than all of the evidence that it did start with russia. now the only question is how extensive and what was the level of collusion, if any. >> you know, establishing exactly who hacked who is always hard but this is something that american intelligence has gotten very good about and they don't say what they say loosely. >> there are signatures. >> there are signatures. there are ways to identify servers.
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there are ways to identify the language they use, the style and so forth. and it's well-known that russia has a platoon of trolls who go off and attack things that are written about russia. so this is something they do very well. we've identified chinese of course, in the past. not on this case. but there are also signatures to chinese hacking. > which didn't exist in this case in terms of our election. the philippines, he makes this call and then whatever you think calling the philippine leader given his record to invite him for a state visit or working visit to the united states when that wasn't on his talking points. >> you know, here's the problem with that, andrea, i think. obviously, we need to have a relationship with the philippines. we have a treaty relationship and so forth. on the other hand, what distinguishes american foreign policy over decades is that we advance our leadership in the world based on our interests, the interests of our allies and universal values like human rights. so when we break that, in this
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case, ignoring really human rights violations of epic proportions in the philippines, we say something about american leadership in the world. it's not good. >> and they can cos what happened in the oval office with el sisi from egypt as well as the calls to erdogan. there had been a downplaying of human rights as an american value in foreign policy by the secretary of state and certainly the president. at the same time, all of this argument from the president and his aides briefing about what happened with mike flynn. all of our information from very good sourcing, my reporting and others reporting is that mike flynn got his security clearance reupped by his mother agency, the defense intelligence agency last spring. before or as he was getting involved in the campaign. but the much more extensive vetting for him to be national security adviser was done by the trump transition. and by the trump white house.
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and they just denying that that ever took place. >> well, it's hard to know what happens during a transition, but in my personal experience, the kind of vetting that happens out of white house personnel is as intrusive and thorough as anything in the u.s. government. in fact, more so. >> more so than reupping a security clearance every five years. >> that's typically how it works. so i don't know how it worked in this case but obviously that's how it should have worked. >> and when the president has these meetings with foreign leaders, as well in the oval office and gets no guidance from the state department, he's not getting any kind i have, you know, introduction or background for an important relationship netanyahu, theresa may, angela merkel. he's going on his gut, perhaps going on the nse. >> my instinct is what's going on is that he does hear what would be if not conventional at
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least wise advice from people in his national security team and certainly from intelligence. i hear he gets an intelligence briefing of some sort every day. what happens i think is that he goes on his gut. and fair enough. he's the president. but usually presidents factor into that gut some of what they've learned through intelligence and through diplomacy and so forth. >> and on north korea, you hear from him emphasizing the military options again whereas secretary tillerson and everyone else is talking about a diplomatic way to resolve this. >> we have to be really careful with this korean problem. every president is going to say, any president is going to say, we can't take any options off the table. that's about all you want to say because you really don't want a military engagement with north korea. the consequences, thousands of people would die. and so put it on the table.
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don't open it up. don't talk about it. if you look at the south korean election now, i think both candidates and remember, it's their peninsula, one thing you never want to do on north korea is you don't want to get out of step with the south koreans. they own this problem and live with both of these candidates favor some kind of engagement with north korea, differing degrees, talks, negotiations, whatever. that would be hard to get into and maddening to conduct but as churchill said, you know, jaw jaw is better than war war. >> john mclaughlin, thank you for your perspective as always, appreciated. we are tracking a path of destructive tornadoes across four states. leaving hinds a series of severe storms. at least 15 people were killed, dozens more were injured after flooding, tornadoes, dangerously high winds ripped through missouri, arkansas, mississippi and texas over the weekend. two children in arkansas are still missing. they were swept away by floodwaters. nnz's gabe gutierrez has the
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100th day in office on saturday
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reviving some familiar campaign themes in front of a fired up crowd of supporters in harrisburg, pennsylvania. >> make no mistake, we are just beginning in our fight to make america great again. if the media's job is to be honest and tell the truth, then i think we would all agree the media deserves a very, very big fat failing grade. we need safety. we need cameras. we need all of the things that we're going to be putting in and we need the wall. and we will build the wall assure as you are standing there tonight. we need the wall. let me also be very clear in saying, that we are going to save americans' health care and repeal and replace that disaster known as obamacare which is
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dying, dying, dying. >> joining me now is mark landler, "new york times" white house correspondent at that rally on saturday. >> there were protesters, as well, a few protesters but it was a contentious very lively event. it was red doe lent of the campaign. >> that rally felt like a throwback, a white house adviser likened it to me as kind of a greatest hits compilation. a lot of the stuff you saw during the campaign, the anti-media attacks. he went so far as to recite the snake which if you recall was a poem he recited a few times during the campaign. it's the story about a woman who takes in a snake in a very charitable gesture only to have the snake kill her with a venomous bite. the point is if we take in immigrants, we're risking having them do that to us. those nationalist populist themes. >> talking about the wall at the moment congressional negotiators
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were finishing a resolution which did not have the wall. >> you could argue some of the red meat he was throwing to this crowd was perhaps compensating for the fact that he vacillated in the negotiations with congress, wasn't getting some of the things that his base really wants. he may be almost revved it up more than he would have otherwise. >> this was his counter point to the traditional white house correspondents dinner which except for 1981 when president reagan was recovering from the assassination attempt had been attended by presidents. but it was not only the president choosing not to go saying it would be hypocritical but his entire staff and cabinet did not go. so the word went out. this is the comedian hasan minhaj from comedy central who was booked sort of at the last moment to speak at the event. >> i would say it is an honor to be here but that would be an alternative fact. it is not. no one wanted to do this so of course, it hands in the hands of
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an immigrant. it's how it always goes down. no one wanted this gig. no one. >> as you can imagine, being a muslim, there were a lot of muslim jokes, as well. he took down all of us in the media, all of the networks, the cable networks and also president trump. well received in the room. very edgy. >> uh-huh. >> but again, the president's war with washington and the media is, i mean, you see it from the white house perspective. it is tense going. >> it's very tense going. >> you guys have a lot more access than we've had with previous presidents. >> i've said this is a very paradoxical white house. he vilifies the media and uses them as a foil. in harrisburg, he talked about the failing "new york times" at some length. yet, we feel we do get access to him. he speaks to our reporters and speaks during pool appearances. he spoke to us during his factory visit in harrisburg giving a long interview to john dickerson.
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it's this odd paradox. he doesn't mind trashing us but also gives us access and we'll take the access every time. >> you and i covered the state department together and you no he that world so well, have written a book on white house and state department relationship. let's talk about that because the president does not take briefings from state department officials before he makes these calls. he was freelancing when he invited duterte from the philippines to come to the u.s. >> there's no question about that putting state department in a very awkward position. for rim tillerson trying very hard to figure out his role in the administration, that's also a big challenge because i think the secretary of state has to worry he will go overseas and present american policies and statements that might be undercut or even reversed by a president whose clearly in some ways making it up as he goes along. >> there's some indication from people who seem to know how this is all working that among jared
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kushner's many roles is try to coordinate so that the secretary of state and the president are on the same page. >> i think there's a sense with jared kushner taking a major role in foreign policy that that is one of the rowes he could play. he could be a bit of a bridge and keep the various parts of this administration in sync. but it's difficult. you saw this just the other day with the national security adviser having to clean up something else the president said which is that the u.s. wouldn't be paying for an anti-missile of radar system in south korea. well, the u.s. has agreed to pay for that and so general mcmaster, the national security adviser was forced to clarify that. this is going to be a recurring theme we're going to see play out with the rez and his staff. >> and as the north korea crisis heats up and we need the south koreans to embrace the u.s. military defense, the president suggesting that he would cut off the trade deal between the u.s. and south korea just as they're about to have an election. >> that's a real problem because if you're going to empower a
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more anti-american candidate or more independent candidate, that then has a spillover effect in how you deal with north korea and the geopolitical issues. i think there's also a sense in the white house there's not enough synchronization between it the trade jend whether it's canada or south korea and the national security agenda and there's tensions around that, as well. >> that used to be done largely at the state department. >> that's right. that's where having the state department as a missing piece in the equation is so problematic for the administration. >> thanks so much for coming. and coming up, netflix and spill who with a hollywood twist. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. ♪ fun in art class. come close, come close. i like that. [ music stops suddenly ] ah. when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. awww. try this. for minor arthritis pain, only aleve can stop pain for up to 12 straight hours with just one pill.
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when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. ameriprise this was a small missile. this was not a big missile. this was not a nuclear test which he was expected to do three days ago. we'll see what happens. >> you say not happy. what does that mean? >> i would not be happy if he does a nuclear test. i will not be happy. and i can tell you also, i don't believe that the president of china who is a very respected man will be happy either. >> not happy mean military action. >> i don't know. i mean, we'll see. >> president trump down playing the importance of that latest north korea failed missile launch but not showing his cards whether he would take military action against the rogue regime. at this hour, the president having lunch with his vice president secretary of state and secretary of defense.
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while cia director mike pompeo is in south korea today. north korea is certainly on their minds. kelly cobiella is live in seoul, south korea. this breaking news now, bloomberg news has now posted an interview with president trump saying he would meet with the north korean leader kim jong-un u.n. "if it would be appropriate to meet with him, i would be honored to do it if it's again under the right circumstances, i would do that." now, i've got to tell you that not since 2000, october of 2000 has there been any conversation about a president of the united states meeting with a leader of north korea. and this was kim jong-un's father who was considered much more reliable, lessee rat tick than the son. and that was with bill clinton just as he was leaving office but since then, their nuclear program has gone -- has been developed. the secret nuclear program. you know as well as i all the things they have done. so for him to say he would meet
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with the leader of north korea, hard to imagine what that circumstance would be. >> reporter: yeah, it's pretty amazing to see the statement come out of president trump today especially after all of the information that we've gather over the past couple days. two, three days. all the interviews he's given regarding north korea never has this idea of sitting down with kim jong-un come up. this is a leader, kim jong-un who hasn't yet met with competent jinping the president of china. this is an extremely isolated regime right now. there are no good releases really on any side. i think the south korean presidential candidates a couple of them talked about potentially sitting down across the table from un but no other leader has sat down and tried to negotiate some sort of reproachment with kim jong-un or talk abouting there nuclear program. and you know, this comes at
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obviously at a very tense time here and aside from the one statement by the vice president sometime ago, some weeks ago now i think that there is a possibility leaving the window open for negotiations with kim jong-un. i don't think we've heard this from president trump since the campaign days. andrea? >> and in fact, kelly, just this friday at the u.n., the secretary of state tillerson was arguing that the allies now have to isolate north korea and consider downgrading their diplomatic relations with the north. >> reporter: right. and i think that's the direction that the rest of the allies were sort of heading in at this point. you saw japan today deploying a warship. it's largest warship. this is really significant for japan to get into the act militarily in there way. this is the first time something like this has happened since japan passed that new law back in 2015 allowing this passivist
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country using its military only in self-defense to now come to the aid of an ally under attack. now we see this warship heading into the region, accompanying a u.s. military supply ship toward the "uss carl vinson." all of the allies in the region are heading in this one direction of maximum pressure and now these comments from president trump. andrea. >> kelly cobiella, thanks for being there for us today. another hack attack has struck hollywood. cyber thieves stealing episodes of orange in t"orange in the ned uploading those to a file sharing site after northwest flix refused ran some demands. miguel almaguer has more on the story. >> reporter: the fifth season of orange is the new black" was set to come out june 9th but hackers using the twitter handle the dark overlord claim they uploaded most of the new season to a torrent site over the
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weekend when netflix refused to pay their ran some. now they're threatening even more damage. who is next on the lists? fox, ifc, nat geo and abc? oh what fun we're all going to have. nbc news has not verified the authenticity of the files. netflix declining to be interviewed only releasing a statement. a production vendor used by several major tv studios had its security compromised. it's the highest profile cyber attack since the notorious sony ake in 2014 when sensitive e-mails, celebrity gossip and the movie "annie" were stolen and made public. since then the major studios have beefed up cyber security but some independent vendors remain a weak link according to experts. >> this move the hackers made with "orange is the new black" is a warning shot and that perhaps we could see more such incidents with other networks and other shows. >> reporter: it appears the
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calling me an energy farmer. ♪ energy lives here. president trump taking a big step today, trying to dismantle michelle obama's campaign to improve school lumpbls. you're looking at the new agriculture secretary, eating lunches at an elementary school in virginia. joining me now, susan page. welcome to both of you. michelle obama's land mark initiative, the garden was cemented in and hasn't been plowed over as far as we know. but a lot of things are being
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dismantled. >> this is i'm sure disappointing to michelle obama. this is one of her big causes, one of the things she worked on, healthier school lunches. this is just one of many regulations the trump administration has loosened or repealed entirely. it means that relatively new regulations can be unrolled, can be reversed with just a majority vote of congress. they've done that a record number of times, i think 13 times so far. and the big changes in
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environmental regulations. there's really big parts of president obama's legacy undoing. >> a lot of people feel the government really going into the schools. even though it's about healthy lunch and this idea you want your kids to not be eating so many calories. the idea is when i talk to people, they didn't want mr. obama picking out what their children ate. there's a segment of this country that say we want them out of our country and schools. >> this is certainly helpful to the base, if they don't listen to the speeches but read and watch the details, upset that the wall is not being paid for by mexico, that a lot of these other promises are not coming up. he did say something interesting to bloomberg news. he said he would be under the right circumstances willing to meet with kim jong-un, which is going to be a surprise to his secretary of state and national security adviser. but the fact that he's open to a gas tax, hello, al gore, that's the hope and dream of people concerned 57b89 t eed about the emissions for decades. >> it's also been opposed by people in suburban and rural areas that don't have alternatives like public transportation. so these are the people that voted for donald trump, are people who are relying on their
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cars and trucks to drive around. so very interesting that he opened the door to a gas tax. poli policymakers have argued it makes sense that a gas tax hasn't been increased in a long time, can be used for infrastructure. but no shortage of controversy. >> reince priebus said they're open to reviewing libel laws. we're trying to figure out what are the libel laws. there is the sproerupreme court that goes back to the '70s, or else a constitutional amendment. there's no law you can pass, i believe, that can change the libel laws. >> as someone who studied the case, i can't understand how the president can do that. but as someone who says he wants to delegitimize the media, this
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is the idea that this administration wants to penalize the media for reporting things that somehow paint them not in the greatest light. so it's interesting to see how they might use the law to do that. >> there is the supreme court decision you mentioned that sets a high bar for public figures to sue the news media. the standard of actual malice. so the one course the white house could take is a constitutional amendment to reverse that supreme court decision, to lower the bar for public officials to sue the news media. seems unlikely this is the cause of which the white house is going to -- >> constitutional amendments are really hard. >> they have a lot of things on their plate to do. but that is the approach they can do to make it easier for president trump to sue people like "the new york times." >> i want to also talk about eliana rossladen announcing her
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retirement. she is a controversial figure, but the first hispanic person in congress. she is a major, major figure. i can attest to the fact that she's a great softball player. she's a terrific athlete on our congressional press corps softball team to raise money for breast cancer for young survivors. this is a big change and puts the florida district into the swing district -- potentially swing district. >> she is a really a force. the fact that her former campaign manager is jeb bush and marco rubio interned for her tells you -- hillary clinton did win her district by 20 points and barack obama also beat mitt romney. but she won her district by ten points. democrats understand that they can win that district and it's a district that can -- even though
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it's going to be a long march for the 24 people they need to take over the house, that's one more person they can put on. >> we have to leave it there.
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from msnbc headquarters. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle reach a $2 trillion spending will to keep the government funded. outrage growing over comments from president trump questioning why the civil war ever happened. and may day marches. thousands of demonstrators take to the streets across the country, protesting the trump administration policies for worker rights to immigration. and in about half an hour, sean spicer is expected to give his white house press briefing. we'll bring that to you live. we start now with president trump making controversial comments about history, while also trying not to repeat it. president trump is getting a lot of groief today he made when he asked why the u.s. went to the civil war. the comments come as he's trying to get health care reform back on track and learn the lessons that have


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