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from msnbc headquarters. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle reach a $2 trillion spending will to keep the government funded. outrage growing over comments from president trump questioning why the civil war ever happened. and may day marches. thousands of demonstrators take to the streets across the country, protesting the trump administration policies for worker rights to immigration. and in about half an hour, sean spicer is expected to give his white house press briefing. we'll bring that to you live. we start now with president trump making controversial comments about history, while also trying not to repeat it. president trump is getting a lot of groief today he made when he asked why the u.s. went to the civil war. the comments come as he's trying to get health care reform back on track and learn the lessons that have consistently derailed
his promise to repeal obamacare. president trump's team appears confident that a vote on health care will happen in the house this week, just as congress appears ready to wrap up a deal to fund the government. let's bring in kristen welker and kasie hunt. the president telling bloomberg that he's open to meeting with north korea's kim jong-un. that's obviously something he did say during the campaign. but give us a little more background on whether the white house is backing the president's decision to potentially meet with the north korean leader. >> reporter: it's interesting in that interview. he also said it would be an honor to meet with him. so he went a step further than he's gone on the campaign trail. ky tell you based on my conversations here behind the scenes this is a white house that very much wants to see a diplomatic resolution to the crisis in north korea. so this is not a complete surprise that he would make this type of a comment. what does that mean? that means that the president has been holding a number of
talks with the president of china. he hosted him at mar-a-lago. he's also reached out to other leaders in the region. the president of the philippines, which is creating a lot of controversy today because of his human rights record. but the strategy is to turn up the heat on north korea to abandon its nuclear provocations. the reason that the president is saying he would be open to meeting with kim jong-un i think is a part of that broader strategy. but katie, it's also important to point out this white house has been adamant that all options are on the table. that includes military options, and they haven't ruled out a potential preemptive strike. >> did this answer come out of left field? because this morning, reince priebus was asked if the president would meet face-to-face with kim jong-un. he says not right now, i can't see that. but not right now. it's not going to happen unless kim jong-un is willing to disarm and give up what he's put on the
mountainsides across that country. so reince priebus said one thing, donald trump is saying another thing to bloomberg. are they now scrambling to back the president up for this comment? >> reporter: i think that sean spicer will have to answer a lot of questions about this. this just broke a few minutes ago. this is a former candidate, now a president who very much marches to the beat of his own drum. so i wouldn't be surprised if there are a number of conversations going on about what specifically the public messaging is going to be in terms of meeting with kim jong-un. again, it's important to underscore, this is something that he has said as a candidate, that he would be open to meeting with kim jong-un. it's also something that former candidate obama said back in 2008. so there have been a pretext for this, and the question is, is this something that is really in the works or would even happen in the near future? there's no indication.
>> nbc's kristen welker, thank you. kasie hunt, let's talk about welfare. does -- health care. >> reporter: i think republican leadership are probably more optimistic now than they have been at any point. i think there is a sense that they feel like momentum is moving in the right direction to have a vote potentially this week. the biggest problem was those conservatives. without them, leadership didn't have enough votes to pass this. so with that group kind of placated and on board, the challenge has been getting these moderate voters and tr-- modera republicans rather, saying look, this isn't going to do as much damage with people with preexisting conditions as you think it is.
it's an easier project for paul ryan, because for the most part these are members that want to be with him. they want to be able to help him. they are on board with the general leadership in the house. so they are definitely an easier group to have to have at the table to work through this. there could be some creative solutions out there regarding what tom price could do, for example, as hhs secretary, opposed to making major changes to this bill. but we'll see once we get all the members back in town, they're all on their way back to washington for tonight. 17 were hard nosed, they could afford to lose 22 republicans before this -- they would not be able to get to 216 votes. they want to allow a few of these moderates vote against it in places where they might be vulnerable. so they may have more leeway than we think. but there's a sense if they don't do it this week, they may lose momentum.
>> is it going to be a reality check of what the chances are of a bill that's even resembling this getting to the senate? >> reporter: yeah. the reality for this bill as written is a very difficult one. that's part of the challenge here. you're trying to convince moderate republicans to vote for something they think is too conservative, only to know it's going to go to the senate to get changed. there are republicans there with concerns about medicate and concerns from west virginia, arkansas, people that rely on that money and changing it is potentially very politically risky. so the reality here, we've talked about what is this policy. clearly, there are members of the house who may be voting one way or another to back that up. the likelihood that becomes law is close to zero. >> talk to me about what the budget deal looks like.
>> reporter: this is $1.2 trillion spending bill that funds the government through the end of the fiscal year, september 30th. what's in this? one thing that the president is focused on is the $25 billion increase in defense spending. that increase is over last year. there's only $15 billion in new defense spending. $1.5 billion of this is set for border security. but noteworthy, not for the wall. and there's $2 billion for the national institutes of health. that is research, democrats very focused on that. the administration suggested they wanted to make deep cuts there. but what's important is what is not in it. we mentioned the border wall. that stone walled the negotiations last week. that is no longer included. there's also additional money for i.c.e. agents, so that's part of a compromise working through that. and there are no cuts to the sanctuary city funding. that's something else that the
president has been talking a lot about. so there's stuff in here for democrats and republicans to like. democrats i think are declaring victory on this one as well. they feel like the white house mostly stayed out. that's what they were demanding from the get-go here. we think the road is pretty smooth. you'll hear conservatives talk about how they're opposed to this. at the end of the day, they're going to pass this with democratic votes and that changes all the math. >> what was the white house's spin on this? are they saving up their leverage for the fall? >> to some extent they are, katie. i don't think they wanted to deal with a government shutdown, particularly after they worked the first 100 days in office. some of the things the president wanted to see as part of this spending bill are not going to happen. they're spinning this and saying look, every dollar that goes to
border security is a down payment toward moving closer to having a wall. but at the same time, a lot of the republican's priorities, things like funding planned parenthood, defunding n.i.h. are not represented in this package, particularly given the republicans control the white house and both congress and the senate. let's go now to our panel. okay. charlie, let's start with you and get a little bit into the civil war comments. donald trump saying that it's unclear why -- or nobody is asking why we had to go to war during the civil war. he said this during a radio interview. let's take a listen.
>> just to be clear, andrew jackson was dead 16 years before the civil war happened. he was a slave owner and somebody who ordered the slaughter of american indians. but putting that aside, charlie, putting this comment that doesn't seem to be rooted, at least seemingly in the facts, is this -- critics say this is the problem with the president, that he doesn't study, that he doesn't get to know an issue before he starts talking. what do you make of it, charlie? >> yeah, your point is exactly
right. it's not just donald trump is so profoundly ignorant of american history. he's frankly ignorant of what he's ignorant of and he doesn't have any problem advertising all that. why did we have to have that civil war? i don't know, mr. president, maybe it had something to do with slavery. again, he would probably have to read a book to fully grasp all of the nuances of that issue. >> he apparently is reading books about andrew jackson, at least. on this subject of not being fully briefed on the information at hand, let's listen to donald trump's interview with cbs over the weekend where he talks about health care. >> preexisting conditions are in the bill, and i mandated it. i said it has to be. >> one of the fixes discussed, preexisting was optional for the states. >> sure, in one of the states.
>> so you're saying preexisting for everybody. >> this has evolved over a period of thee or four weeks. >> he's saying the bill has evolved and preexisting conditions are not going to be optional for the states. robert costa, is that the case? has the bill changed? >> the bill has been tweaked slightly by congressman macarthur of new jersey. they've come up with this amendment that would enable states to choose whether they keep some of the insurance regulations under the affordable care act. under the andrew jackson point, we could use more discussion of the war of 1812. hick try, jackson was controversial because of how he dealt with the native americans. so it is intriguing to see him
citing andrew jackson. >> the health care bill that you just mentioned, has it optional for the states to choose whether they're going to cover preexisting conditions, allowing some states to hike up the premiums for those who do have preexisting conditions. was the president upnaware of that or has something changed? >> based on my reporting, the president has not been deeply involved in the revival of health care talks. it's been the vice president, the freedom caucus in the tuesday group. it was somewhat startling to see the president wasn't fully familiar with these details, to be sure. >> jonathan, let's talk about the budget. it doesn't githere's no money f the wall. can the white house say we're
going to get more defense spending, which is what we wanted, and that goes to the border for immigration spending essentially. that this is just the first part in a longer negotiation, and we will bring these topics up in the fall that this is still a win for us, even though it's not everything that the president wanted. >> sure, they can say that. and your articulation is probably what we're going to hear from sean spicer in the briefing. but the problem still remains that now that they've pushed this problem off until the end of the fiscal year, they still have to negotiate a budget for fy-2018. at the same time, negotiate a raising of the debt ceiling. so while they can cheer themselves for getting whatever it is they got in the continuing resolution, there are still two huge battles still to come where the fight is going to be much more intense, and the things that they can claim credit for or victories are going to be fewer and fewer. >> so civil rights, health care,
this budget deal. and the other topic we have going on today is donald trump seeming to praise authoritarian leaders. he had a friendly phone call with the leader of the philippines, and he said he was going to invite him to the white house. obviously might be controversial. he's talking about it would be an honor to speak in person with kim jong-un today. charlie, what do you make of all this praising or at least lightly praising of strong men? and the idea that president duterte could come to the white house? >> i understand you have to deal with some unsavory characters in the world, but you're dealing with somebody who is so far over the line. you're talking about a guy that is basically running his own death squads, who is responsible for the murder of thousands of people. so not only having a friend lly conversation, but praising his tough war on drugs.
this war on drugs is mass murder. so when reince priebus says it doesn't mean we don't care about human rights, it means you are going to put human rights on the back burner. >> and sebastien gorka might be out in this administration. can you explain who he is and why he's so controversial? >> he's a former contributor to breitbart, close to steve bannon. he's controversial because of some of his involvements with hungarian groups, different groups in europe that are linked to the alternative right that have links going back to even some associations to fascism during the postwar period. his links have created problems for this white house. >> robert costa, charlie sykes and jonathan, thank you so much. we're skipping around on a variety of topics on another busy monday. hundreds of protesters are gathering at this hour to rally
against president trump's policies. marches like this are happening around the country today. we'll check in with our reporters at one of the biggest protests right here in new york. and the rallies sure to come up at the daily press briefing, which is set to kick off in 15 minutes or so. bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. parts a and b
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new york. ron, what are you seeing so far? >> reporter: katie, there's a pretty big crowd now and it's growing. i would say there are at least a few hundred people out here. but this is going on from noon to about 5:00. there's a plan to march from here to city hall, which is a pretty significant distance. but the point is, they're hoping this crowd gets bigger and bigger. it's a range of issues. it's not just immigration or worker's rights as protests about american action in syria. i want to bring in one of the organizers, ms. gutierrez with the may day coalition. what is the message that you want people to take from this? >> today on may 1, international worker's day, millions of people around the world are marches, and we all are marching because we work for a living, all of us. so my message is, whether you're concerned about education,
whether you're concerned about taxes for the wealth while the working class people pay disproportionate taxes, or whether you care about health care or police brutality, today is a day to march. >> reporter: such a wide range of issues. the message could get diffused. do you think president trump is listening? >> i definitely think he's listening. we have a message, immigrants are not the scapegoats for donald trump. donald trump wants to spend billions for a wall. that money should go for health care. it should go for education, for infrastructure, not for walls. >> reporter: thank you very much. i appreciate it. again, several hundred people here now. they're also asking people to strike to leave their joins and join them throughout the day. we'll see to what extent that happens. that's the story here. probably one of the bigger demonstrations in the country. >> ron, thank you very much. one of those attending the may day rally in washington is
illinois democratic congressman luis gutierrez. i assume you're inside for the moment. >> the march starts at 2:00. >> tell me why you're going. >> i'm going because we need to stand tall, and we need to stand firm against the anti-immigrant policies. while today is a day which we unite many, many forces for social justice in america, primarily, you're going to see the pro-immigrant forces out there rallying with their friends and let's save our earth community, and the women's community, and the lbgtq community. there's going to be a lot of different social justice movements coming together to support our immigrants. we see how many families are being destroyed. we see how much fear there exists in the immigrant community throughout the united
states. today is a day to say no. today is a day to resist and today is a day to join with others to say america is better than this. we had the doj on their website, when the attorney general went out to the border last week, put on their website, we have to stop this ugly vermin from coming into the united states of america. they called it filth. that was the word they used. what kind of terminology is that to talk about human beings? we want to say these are human beings. we want to keep our families together and we want to make a distinction between those that have come here to do wrong, between murderers and rapists and criminals, and a dad that's been here 20 years, raising his family and trying to get right with the law. they shouldn't be attacking and destroying those families. >> something about the work you're doing in congress right now. you avoided a government shutdown. a $1 trillion agreement that
will keep the government working for five more months. there are some concessions made to the white house. you upped military spending, defense spending. does this all give everybody some breathing room in order to go back and maybe bargain a little harder come this fall? >> look, the fact that there isn't a set for the wall, i want to congratulate all those who came together to say -- donald trump said mexico was going to pay for the wall. guess what? nobody is going to pay for the wall. the wall doesn't have support from democrats, obviously. and the support among republicans is eroding. having said that, i don't know that i can vote for a budget that has $1.2 billion being sent to homeland security, because i don't know that i can support a budget that had $1 billion to undermine roe versus wade and the rights -- reproductive rights of women.
to undermine the rights of the lbgtq community. let's say it was the rights to fighting racism in this country. let's say it was to debilitate the epa and to destroy our environment, would i vote for that? so i have hesitation support thing budget. i am not supporting this budget, because i don't think -- let me put it to you this way. too many children that have lost their moms and dads, to turn around and spend money so more can lose their moms and dads. >> health care is potentially back on the table. that's what the republicans are saying. any circumstance which you could vote for a health care bill? have you talked to any republicans about maybe this more conservative version of it does not work, have you talked to republicans in the house to say listen, let's find a way to work within the obamacare constraints and restraints and
structure to find a way to make it even better possibly? >> sure. look, obamacare needs fixes. obamacare needs improvements. obamacare needs to be developed. and here's what i'm telling my republican colleagues. i'm saying if you can find a way that we can include more people and give them health care, and you can add people to the roles that aren't on them, let's keep everybody that has health care on the rolls, i'm a willing partner. i want to see expansion of health care. but you see, the fundamental differences is a philosophical ones. republicans believe in less government and less involvement. i see health care kind of like the education of my children, right? or children in america as a fundamental basic right. i look at it as a civil right, a human right that everybody --
how can i say less? think about it a moment. every member of congress has government sponsored and subsidized health care. we're all under obamacare today. how could i wish less for the constituents that send me near than the very nature of health care that i and my family have and takes such great care of us? >> congressman gutierrez, appreciate your time. good luck out there at the rally. we want to go on the record with breaking news out of dallas. a short time ago, the dallas police association tweeted out that there is an active shooter in the city. the dpa says a fireman has been shot and take on the a local hospital. also, that other officers are currently being pinned down by gunfire. you can see all the police activity on your screen right there. nbc's dallas affiliate says the condition of the firefighter is unknown at the moment, but they have confirmed that he's been taken to baylor medical center.
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more breaking news. this time out of south korea. the anti-missile defense system known as t.h.a.a.d., is operational. last week president trump told reuters south korea should pay for the system. on sunday, his national security adviser said the u.s. would continue to pay. for more, let's go to hans nichols. hans, tell us what this means. >> reporter: well, it means that
it has initial intercept capability. it by no means that the entire korean peninsula is free and safe from north korean missiles. but it is the start of an umbrella. in some ways, the most important aspect is the speed with which it was deployed. it was a couple of weeks ago that you heard hints it would be coming in the coming days. then suddenly over the weekend it becomes operational. there have been a lot of talk about how difficult this was going to be. you had to send the equipment over there. you some of the batteries were going to be stationed on a golf course. you had to get permitting. when we talk about t.h.a.a.d., we spend a lot of time on north korea, t.h.a.a.d. is also a sign to the chinese if they don't resolve this issue, the u.s. is going to move more hardware into the region. the pentagon uses it as an use
to pressure china saying look, if you don't resolve this situation, look what's coming your ways. a lot of potentially anti-chinese missile systems that you don't like right in your backyard. >> expand on how complicated this is. on one hand, the president is praising the chinese president, saying what a great guy he is. but this is not something they don't want for the reasons you just mentioned. but there's satellite capabilities in there. >> so think of the month of april as a test period to the chinese strategy. that is the mar-a-lago strategy. let's outsource the pressure on north korea to china. in the beginning of the month, there had been a test, then the summit in florida. privately, you were hearing from officials here. look, no tests where there hasn't been a test since that initial summit. now it looks like there has been a test. we'll have to see whether or not this idea of outsourcing
everything to the chinese is going to be reworked here at the pentagon as well. just real quick on the technical things. there are a lot of applications and capabilities that t.h.a.a.d. has. but the chinese don't like it there in their backyard. >> hans, thank you very much. let's bring in rachel and tim. rachel, let's talk about this north korea t.h.a.a.d. getting up and running. how is the white house being graded right now on their international relations, at least when it comes to foreign policy? >> when it comes to north korea, you'll hear people on both sides applaud that he's take this seriously, and he talked over the past 24 hours about being to sit down with the leader of north korea. it shows that he know there is is an issue and he wants to move. he brought all 100 senators to the white house last week to
brief them on the dangers, the risks, the issues with north korea and the tensions, and i think right now on capitol hill where we see intentions tearing the hill apart, this is one issue where you'll see a bipartisan front when it comes to addressing it. >> donald trump talked about how it would be an honor to talk to kim jong-un today. he said on the campaign trail he wanted to potentially have a face-to-face, and even said he would consider hosting him in the usa. does he get into trouble more so with the words that he chooses, saying specifically that it would be an honor to host him, is that fair to criticize the president for that word choiceage? >> well, choiceage? on one level -- >> choice. >> -- we should look at the bigger picture that he is being sort of more nuanced, a little frankly smarter on foreign policy than a lot of us expected.
if you do want to criticize the president's word choice, it would be diplomacy. we see how things -- you can say they're just words. they actually have an effect. that's why our diplomatic interactions say when president obama or bush would have a phone call with china, there were certain things you couldn't say. you wouldn't say anything that suggests taiwan is a nation. you can say you're concerned about human rights, but don't go this far. but on the whole, the idea that he's reaching out and talking to these people shows, i think, that he's learning a lot, that you can show strength as he wants to show without having to constantly be combative. >> word choice, word usage, kind of got those mixed up. thanks for calling me out on that, tim. let's talk about the budget. rachel, this was obviously not the full budge that that the president wanted.
there's no funding for his wall, planned parenthood is still being funded, a host of other things, more for the national institute of health. can the white house say they played a hand in this or was this just congress figuring out a way to get this done to avoid a standoff in order -- to talk in a fuller way about this come the fall? >> well, there's certainly things in this bill that the white house can tell as a victory. they'll get more money from defense, more money for the border. i should say border security, not for the wall specifically as you mentioned. there's something in there that we typically see whenever republicans ask for more money on defense, democrats demand dollar for dollar that help their constitch wents. we didn't see that happen. so they could tout that as a victory. but the white house escalated this when they started talking about the wall and potentially we're going to get to a shutdown
fight if we don't get money for the wall. in doing that, everybody is focused on the wall and the fact that he didn't get this wall. so broadly speaking for the american public, they probably will not see this as a victory for trump, even though there are victories in there for the administration. this ask not the end. republicans are saying they're going the fight for this for the next year's appropriations bills. and that means we're going to be in the same place in a few months. >> tim, he talks about the wall. he talked about the wall on the campaign trail. but when you talk to folks that went to his rallies, a lot of them said they don't really believe he's going to build a wall. but they hiked the they aliked d it. donald trump building this wall, is that going to make or break him? >> there's a minority for which it will, but what donald trump has to do to satisfy his supporters, i would think from the way we saw those rallies and all that, is just constantly go
to war with frankly msnbc, with "the new york times," but also with the rest of the political class here in washington. not on a day-to-day constant basis, but to regularly go out there and be battling the washington and new york elites. that's the heart of what the base wants to see, when you look at polling and 97% of his voters said they would vote for him again, even after some of the disappointments here. so the wall is the biggest symbol. it would be a great campaign moment to pose in front of the wall with his big glorious gate and whether or not it has the letters trump on it like trump towers, i don't know. but if he's here fighting washington, that matters more than any specific policy. this was not a policy centered campaign. >> is he battling the elites or the facts? >> i mean, all politicians battle the facts, but the fact is what he was running against,
when you would talk to these people, and i know you talk to them outside the rallies, too. they would say washington and new york, they're rigging the game against me, and he's going to go in and fight those people. i don't think those people's lives are going to be better off because of donald trump. but i do think he's coming in and putting on the show of fighting against the elites. >> is he just so good at the show that it's enough? >> no. i mean, you asked me an electoral question, i gave you an electoral answer. i have lots of thoughts on what the working class of america needs. >> you are right. i do want to get back to that topic at one point, tim. so i'll have to get you up to new york. it's fascinating whether donald trump has to actually deliver on the promises or whether or not he can just show that he's working on those promises. promises made, promises kept are already on banners at his rallies, even though he's only
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we want to give you more information on that breaking news out of dallas. the police report that there is still an active scene. you can see it right there on your screen. nbc's charles hadlock is on the phone. what do you have for us so far, charles? >> dallas police report that a dallas plaintifirefighter has bt and taken to the hospital. he's now in surgery for gunshot wounds. there's also the possibility that another person, we don't know whether it was a firefighter or police officer or citizen, has also been wounded. the city police department put out a city wide alert. that's a rare emergency alert calling in all available officers to the scene. of course, as we remember, dallas was the scene of a tragic shooting last july 7th. five officers were gunned down in an ambush situation in downtown dallas. this shooting is taking place about three miles from downtown, just east of the downtown area, in an area near the firefighter
training academy. we don't know if the academy has anything to do with this shooting, but it is about two blocks away where police have called for a city wide alert, calling in all officers. they've cordoned off an area about two miles in diameter around the area, trying to pin point exactly where this gunman might be. they believe he may have run into a house and they are currently trying to close off the area and then they'll zero in on that house as soon as they can identify which house he went into. >> so they do have an idea which neighborhood he's in, he or she? >> it's about three miles east of downtown dallas along i-30. >> any idea whether the shooter is a man or woman? >> we don't know. there's no description of the suspect at all. >> charlie, any idea how that firefighter is doing? you say he's in surgery for gunshot wounds.
>> the baylor medical center has not released any information. the police command is at the hospital, along with firefighter command to check on the relatives and other firefighters who may have been around the scene. it was not a fire call that we know of. there were no active fires in that area. so that leads us to believe it may have something to do with the firefighter training academy, just two blocks away. again, we don't know the exact situation of what started this. >> are we clear it's a firefighter and not an emt? >> we believe it was a firefighter. that's what the dallas police association is telling us. >> charlie, appreciate it. sean spicer is running about 19 minutes hate for his press briefing. when we comes out, we'll bring it to you live. (vo) more "doing chores for mom" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than
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as we await sean spicer to take the podium, peter, is he considering politics? >> katy, it's a good question. asked specifically about that, mark zuckerberg said, no, he's not considering a run for president. still, four stops in three states in the midwest has many people asking questions about whether the facebook founder may have 20/20 vision. it was just dinner, but it could be mark zuckerberg's first course in politics. the 32-year-old facebook founder make ag sting a stop in ohio ov weekend. >> it was amazing. >> reporter: dining in ohio with the moore family. >> he thinks he can do more with his company than getting caught in the gridlock in washington. >> reporter: he was asking his staff for democrats who voted for president trump in september. lisa and bob moore both voted for zuckerberg twice, but didn't know they would be their mystery
guest until 15 minutes before dinner. >> my adrenaline is still running high. >> reporter: the dinner on a full plate of travel for zuckerberg, all in the midwest. on friday meeting with muslim students at university of michigan in dearborn. saturday sitting down with opioid addicts in dayton, ohio. sunday, sitting down with the moore family in ohio. he's been keeping a record on his facebook page. in between swinging through south bend, indiana, taking a driving tour with the city's democratic mayor. >> this certainly didn't feel like a political visit. we weren't talking about politics. we were talking about the community, we were talking about jobs and the economy. >> reporter: it wasn't a one-record deal. he's visited at least 10 states since january. his challenge is meeting every state in the midwest by the end of the year. which has people guessing he may be dipping his toe into
political waters. someone wrote, mr. zuckerberg's leave of absence or resignation would not constitute a voluntary resignation if it were in connection with his serving in a government office. >> i'm just so grateful i've had the opportunity to serve so many people, and i just think the best is yet to come. >> reporter: as for the moores, they say if he runs, they're in. >> i would vote for him because i trust him. >> mark zuckerberg already has a pretty public platform, but if he needs a better one, he has another opportunity this month. he will be returning to where it all began, harvard, where he famously dropped out of the school. this time he's back, katy, as the commencement speaker. >> peter, he's not old enough yet to run for president. will he be old enough in 2020?
>> 32 years young. yes, he's got a ways, but everybody thinks because of his fiphilanthropic efforts and his desire to spend money on what a lot of people think are important causes, he may be ready in 2020. >> i like that polite laugh, peter. appreciate it. let's see what you're saying about the microsoft pulse question. do you think vp joe biden should run for president in 2020? so far, 70% said yes. biden, 2020, campaigning. there is still a chance to run on pulse.msn brbc.com. we'll be right back. anyone can dream.
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