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we're also watching mexico, which just experienced the strongest earthquake there in a century. the death toll has risen to 32 while more than 122 people were hurt by the magnitude 8.1 earthquake. it created a second national emergency for mexican agencies already bracing for hurricane cata. that's that other hurricane that was brewing in the gulf. mexico's gulf coast on saturday. that wraps things up for us this hour. a reminder that msnbc is your place for continuing live coverage. we will be here all weekend covering every move. ali velshi will pick things up right now. >> and we will stay with this kbleetel. it was great to have a little levity with jacob and doris. >> but this is deadly serious. >> thank you so much. and time is running out. leave now. that's the warning from florida governor rick scott as irma is barrel, barreling toward florida. the storm is wider than the entire state or at least that part of the state that is the
florida peninsula. we don't know exactly where or how irma is going to crash into florida, but it will. and when it does, expect catastrophic destruction. just look at what this storm did to important oh rico. some places in florida could be uninhabitable for weeks. why? one reason is the storm surge. it could hit 12 feet. for perspective, this is 8 feet. it's going to be half as tall as that on top of it. add 4 feet to this. buildings kwoo collapse into the sea. and this is just the storm surge. it's not the winds. winds are pat 155 miles an hour. one tick below category 5 strength. lesson now to governor rick scott's warning. >> every floridan should take this seriously and be aggressive to protect your family. possession can be replaced. your life and your family cannot. i think about my mom and how hard it would have been for her
to be completely broke and have kids and have to evacuate. but you have to do it. you can't afford not to do it. think about your family. you have to keep your family safe. >> okay. let's start this hour with the latest forecast. msnbc weather contributor sam champion is in miami beach for us with that. he is focused just single mindel on where this storm is coming and what it's going to look like. what have you got, sam? >> all right. ali, i just want to explain the shot a little bit because i haven't had a chance to do that yet. we're standing -- at my home in miami beach and what you see back behind me there, that's all downtown miami. this is exactly the area that we're talking about. let's get to the maps. we've got some information here. we'll show you where the center of this storm is. this massive area of white clouds is all irma. category 4. but let's be clear. at 155-mile-per-hour winds a category 5 is 156.
so the had, not really helping anybody at this point. let's look at it for the next few hours and even until sunday. we'll continue to move this storm just off the northern coast of cuba between that and the bahamas. expect it to stay category 4 strength there. and look how close that storm comes to that northern coast of cuba. does it nick the coast with the eye wall? does it force a little weakening in that storm? not much. then still all forecast models make that direct north turn and take this as a category 4 storm into the central keys by sunday at 8:00 a.m. that time has changed a little bit. we're talking about 8:00 a.m. with 145-mile-per-hour winds. that first impact strike zone being somewhere around marathon key in the central keys in florida. then that storm would make a direct impact on the southern tip of florida and drive all the way up the spine of florida right thu the middle of the state. so this is an all florida hurricane. every part of florida, ali, will
have hurricane impacts there this. and the interesting thing here to people a little bit north of that into the southeast, take a look at where it ends up, probably by tuesday what's left of this storm is dropping rain and causing wind and power outages in tennessee and kentucky. that's a long track for this storm. as we look at where all of this will happen by 9:00 p.m. on saturday, by 8:00 p.m. on saturday to 9, we start to get in the rain and the tropical storm force winds. you can see those storms moving in from key largo to miami. this is a model that is showing us what the future will be on the radar. then look at the center of that storm right there making a move towards the everglades and driving up through the middle of florida by 11:00 a.m. sunday. sunday is going to be a long day for south florida. basic approximately you're in it from late saturday night in those strong winds and rain all the way through the day on sunday. it takes until almost monday morning for the center of that storm to be in north florida, ali, so it's a long run with this very powerful storm. and no storm has done what this storm is expected to do in florida. >> all right. sam, it's fair to say you've
been around in this business for a little while. we have some people who have spent the last couple of days telling people this isn't all that serious, allegations that it is -- that the media is trying to advance some kind of climate change narrative by telling people this is serious. the thing i'm asking you, in the time you've been in this business, there has never been a more accurate time for forecasting these storms. if this is what the national weather service and people like you say it's going to be, there's not much reason to doubt it. >> yeah. ali, absolutely. when i hear people say things like that, i want to know what they're getting out of it. i can tell you this that scientists who dedicate their life, weather forecasters who dedicate their life and work for the national hurricane there, national weather service, they're not doing it to be rich. they're doing it to be scientists to help people get out of the way of storms and at this point computer forecast model says are giving us better foerksz than anytime in history. foerksz have never been better
than they are right now. does that mean there won't be some wiggle room that about two or three days out the center of that storm can vary from 50, 60 miles from where the forecast is, but all of our forecast models are saying just about the same thing about irma. and it's not good news. >> all right. sam, thanks very much. stay safe out there. we'll be talking with you a lot. sam champion for us in miami beach. irma is closing in on florida, but right now it is 90 degrees and sunny in miami, which is not helping with the urgency that some people need to understand about this storm. let's go right back to jacob who is standing there. what have you got, jacob. >> so when we last were talking to you all with katy tur in the last all you all had met doris, the woman who is down here wait tg for her son to pick her up. obviously we see the miami beach fire department is still checking in with her. i'm back here with lieutenant paul johnson who has told me basically through some intelligence we have gathered. this is a building with senior citizens, but doris thinks there
might still be people here, but if you go up to the door, it's sand bagged. the door is locked. there's no doorman. >> yeah. so basing off of what misdoris has told us is that we know this believe to be, it's like a subsidized housing and a lot of elderly do live here. she's saying that there is still people inside and normally there's 24 seven security guard that when we come on rescue calls they're here greeting us, betting the elevator ready. >> right. >> there's no one here manning the doors. she told us that the security guard said that he had to go and that someone was going to be coming around 3:00, but i don't know when that occurred, and right now we don't have direct access into the building and so we have no idea how many people are still inside. >> and so lieutenant, 306, if somebody is supposed to come at 3:00 they're obviously not here yet. we went around the back to see if they could get inside. if indeed there are people inside, what can be done? >> well, i'm waiting to get some guidance back from one of our
chiefs, but i mean, ultimately we'll get inside the building. i mean, we have the tools that we'll get in. but they might -- i don't know what they're doing at this moment to try to find out a little more to maybe try to verify her information. >> and just to be clear, the reason it's so important to get people out of this building, and in fact, ali, if i could just show you. look across the street, the windows are all taped up here along ocean drive. the reason lieutenant, it's so important to get people out is we are in evacuation zone a. this is the number one place for people to have to get out of, right. >> yeah. this is one of the first places they said it's time to go, mandatory evacuation. not just, you know, the hurricane with the winds. it's the storm surge that is expected, which could be, you know, as high as where we're standing right now. >> so, in fact, before we go, ali, lieutenant, i'll be right back. i just want to check in with doris. she's been sitting out here. she's obviously a senior citizen
waiting for her son. i just wanted to come back and check in with you again because there's a lot of people watching television right now that are concerned about you. you said your son is coming to pick you up. >> yeah. don't worry. if he doesn't go, i call. >> if he doesn't come, will you allow the firefighters to take you to a place that you can be safe. >> yes. i don't want to stay here in apartment. who knows what gonna happen. >> and what they said is that the storm surge, the lieutenant just told me it could be very, very high, all the way maybe up to the door. >> go out, everybody. >> everybody leave. >> all right, so ali, this is an ongoing operation here obviously with the miami beach fire department to mack sure doris gets out much here okay, but you said maybe some of your neighbors are still inside. >> i told the man what is the apartment number. i know in my noor. >> you know people on your floor. >> and where is the doorman?
>> there. i give the apartment number. >> okay. but nobody is inside. nobody is at the front door. the door is locked. >> no. nobody there. i don't know what happened with the security. >> he's gone. >> yeah. i say at 3:00, but now they say he has to come and i don't know why. >> he's not here yet. yeah. well, like said, ali, we're going to stay out here. the fire department is going to stay out here and make sure everybody else is okay inside this building, and you can be sure this is not the only place this is happening. >> somebody has to stay here. >> well, we don't want you to stay here, doris, that's for sure. >> i don't want. >> all right. ali, i'm going to send it back to you. >> doris is the face of it. she's got the right idea. let's make sure she does get out of there, though. that's the weiss thing to do, to get out, unless you know and you're prepared to stay there with your medication, with your water and with your food for possibly several days, this is serious. and as you pointed out yesterday, jacob, is that storm surge is going to be higher than you are tall, probably by another 50%.
so you are surrounded by water on both sides, three sides really. >> we're talking about canals. we're talking about waterways, and we're talking about the atlantic ocean. >> this is the man. >> here we go. we have a great thing actually happening, ali. >> is this your son? security man. okay, so you're the security man. jacob. >> i just want to make sure, doris, he's going to stay here now? >> you're going to be here. okay. you live here. so they can open the door soon. >> yeah. >> okay. thank you. thank you very much. >> okay. he said come with him. so we'll follow him back in. >> we'll stay very close to you, jacob. we'll stay close to you. so i'll talk to you in a little bit. just to understand what's going on, he's with the miami beach fire and rescue. they're finding out where people are. they're trying to make sure that they're okay. if they need evacuating, they're
taking them away. there is still some confusion about whether people should stay or go. that entire area is under mandatory evacuation, so unless you have made a very conscious decision to stay there, syou should be getting out. armed with all that information, most people who are in those evacuation zones or at least many of them are leaving, at least that part of florida, in droefs. and we are quickly approaching a time when it can become too late to leave. now, that's the roads you're looking at in front of you. you can understand why you don't want to be stuck in traffic when the weather hits. but mariana has been at miami international airport for us. and the lines there stretched for city blocks. people were trying to get on earlier flights. they were trying to get out. are there still flights leaving miami international airport? are there still people trying to get out? >> there are, ali. we just ran into a family that came to the airport about half an hour ago. they had a flight to dallas that is still scheduled to leave at 6 pooem tonight.
so there's still a couple of hopeful people who are here who are trickling in hoping to leave and to get out, as you mentioned. but i have the man with all the answers to my right as to what the status of the airport is. when will this airport close, jack? >> the airport technically does not close down. if wind speeds exceed 55 miles an hour, the tower will shut down. as a general rule of thumb, if wind speeds exceed 35 miles an hour, it is up to the airline, it's at their discretion if the planes are going to fly or not. generally they don't. under dire circumstances they will fly. >> so we're thinking this airport is going to be shut down by tomorrow from what you're saying, right, because of those winds. >> well, what you're seeing behind you, this is the last of it. the last flights are going out tonight. if passengers are stranded here at the airport, and this is not a shelter by any means, but if anyone is stranded here at the airport, they are not going to
get kicked out or anything. worst case scenario we will put them in a shelter. there are restaurants that are going to be open. dunkin' donuts, burger king, kfc, there's a few of them -- >> in other words, let me just make this clear. if you are planning to ride out the storm here at the airport because you're hoping to hop on a flight because your flight is canceled, you will not get kicked out of miami international airport. >> that's correct. however, i do have to emphasize this is not a shelter. people should not be looking at the airport as a shelter to spend rt hurricane under. >> we know so many stranded passengers. more than 700 canceled flights because of hurricane irma. when will flights resume here, do you think? >> well, that all depends if there's any damage to the runway, the tarmac, the tower or any of our equipment. we're hoping that on monday afternoon flight will resume, but, again, that is all -- it all depends on what the hurricane does. this is a very large hurricane.
we're hoping that it doesn't affect us and it doesn't cause any serious damage to the airport. but it all depends on what the hurricane does and it could be as early as monday. it may be tuesday. we just don't know at this point. >> we also saw a lot of chaos at bag claim, ali, because what's happened especially with international flights is that people were hoping to hop on a flight. they didn't make it out, but their bag is basically just left downstairs, and they have no access to them. what's up with the bag situation? >> that's all on a case by case scenario. the airport and its staff is doing everything possible to make this experience as comfortable as possible for our passengers and make them feel at home. yesterday we had thousands of people in this terminal. our staff is working very hard. tsa, cbb, they're all working very hard -- >> we appreciate it, jack. we appreciate it. we know you've had a long day. the baggage then, case by case
basis. airport is not a shelter. thank you for all your work. and again, that small window of time to get out of miami by air, ali, closing in just as we speak practically. back to you. >> thanks for your great reporting on this and we'll keep you at it for the next few days, unfortunately, because this is going to be serious. local, state and federal goflts are coordinating a crystal clear message to the people of south florida, and this is important, because it was not a crystal clear message if you remember, for hurricane harvey out of texas. there were conflicting pieces of information between the governor and mayors, but it is not that way in florida. the message here is if you can get out, do it as soon as possible. i want to bring in the congresswoman alana ross who is a republican serving florida's 27th district. congresswoman, tell me if you understand that most people are taking this adviser if they're staying, that they're well prepared to stay. >> absolutely, ali. i'm very confident the survivor
of hurricane andrew where it was a disaster during the storm and a disaster after the storm that this time we are coordinated at all levels of government and the people are scared straight. we have been hammering that message in a unified manner from day one and i think the images of houston horrified south flaness. my district hugs the coastline. i go from miami beach all the way down south, and it's just a beautiful picture perfect day, except if you know miami, you know that it's just so nonbreezy and now the winds are starting to pick up a little bit. so people really understand. they've got to get out or have enough materials in their home to ride it out. we won't have power. you might not have cell phones. make sure you have medicine. but if you can, find shelter. >> your district, the 27th congressional district has coral cables, cutler bay, key business contain, little havana.
here is the thing, congresswoman. everybody has got a grandmother or grandfather in florida. you've got 132,000 people in your district over the age of 65. we just had jacob sober off talking to an elderly woman who is getting out. she's smid every committed to goating out. but this is an issue for people who are elderly. they sometimes just -- >> absolutely. i was ready to get in my car, ali, and pick up doris and bring her home here because if her son doesn't get his butt in gear, she's going to get more anxious. i feel terrible for the elderly, the shut ins, people who are alone, who are on medication, who have special neesds children. and remember that we have shelters especially for this population, the elderly are in separate floors. if you have a special needs child, you will be in a special floor. i mean, we have done everything we can, but we can't force people out of their homes.
so people have got to -- if they didn't do it by now, they really should get into a shelt r right away and doris's son, you just better get your butt over there and pick her up. >> we've got jacob on the case to make sure she gets out of there safely. of the 132,000 people over the age of 6 r5, almost half of that are people who are none institutionalized. they live on their own. you can do that. if you're older, you're not going to slip on ice. you love the weather. it's fantastic. and that's the group that we're most worried about now. have they decided that being, look, i can let this go for the next few days? we're approaching the last few hours where you can sachl mack a decision to leave. >> i mean, you're so correct. it is literally the last hours. by tonight the wind is going to be incredible. for the frail elderly who think that they can ride this out or be outside of their apartment and enjoying for once a breezy south florida night, don't do
it. and we've got -- i think that's the one aspect of our hurricane preparedness that we need to get just a little bit better next time is to specialize in the elderly who on otherwise in pretty good shape, but they're alone and the door guy has left. they have barricaded these people into their apartment, and it's not supposed to happen that way. but that is the one element that we need to fix. we can get the fuel situation fixed. we can get the roads fixed, but we need to do a little better job of making sure that the elderly living alone are really being taken care of. >> yeah. we're going to keep a very close eye on that with you and we'll stay in touch with you as well. thank you so much and please convey to everybody around you in your state we're on top of this with you all weekend. hey, listen, i've been getting some questions from some people about why when we're seeing these highways why we're not seeing all lanes going
northbound. it is important to remember, this is a peninsula. there are only roads that can get supplies, gasoline and things like that which is why you're seeing many highways not just open northbound because they need to get trucks, military supplies and workers southbound. that's part of the reason. so if you're trying to get out of south florida or you know someone there, tell them they can't wait until tomorrow to start doing this. president trump, whose mar-a-lago estate is closing its doors ahead of the storm released a short video warning americans of the absolutely historic destructive potential of hurricane irma. i want to bring in garrett headache. he's at the white house for us this afternoon. garrett, we played some of this on air. we weren't able to watch the full briefing. but catch us up on what sarah huckabee sanders said about storm preparations. >> sure. they came out here to give essentially a united message of we are on top of this. they said basically that the governors in the path of the storm, so rick scott in florida
and the other governors sort of the southeast united states should look at the federal government as customers. whatever they need, they're going to get. they also made the point that the president has been very dialed in on this. he had a briefing today with his team about 12:15 before heading off to camp david for the week of the and they made a point to thank not just the president, but congressional leaders in both parties for very quickly moving on that harvey aid package that also now has money in it that can be used down the line for other needs that may arise from irma. so they're trying to present this krd that the whole of the federal government is locked in on this, that they're pulling in the same direction and that they stand ready to respond once the storm has moved on past the peninsula. one thing of note, and i think one thing to keep an eye on, ali, when asked if there was any one particular issue that has him especially worried, bossert said that it was the availability of gasoline, of fuel down the peninsula in florida. unlike texas, flar is not chris crossed by pipelines that can
bring it in regardless of the circumstances on the ground. there's essentially one pipeline in from the north. everything else -- >> it's not even a full pipeline. it's sort of a spur -- >> it's a spur. exactly. >> this is exactly why just before i came to you i was saying it's part of the reason they haven't opened up all roads northbound because they're still trying to get fuel to the south because south florida is running out of fuel. >> that's exactly right. and this is a little bit technical, but it shows to the degree to which they're concerned about this. they have suspended something called the jones act which is a law that essentially means you can't carry in gasoline fuel port to port unless it's a u.s. flagship. they suspended that saying we need everybody on board on this. that's going to be the issue that this white house is watching beyond the damage and destruction, but the potentially longer term concern here about getting fuel back south on the florida peninsula. >> you would have heard governor rick scott saying in addition to the logical problems there's a
federal regulatory problem he's trying to sofrl to get more gas into southern florida and it is the jones act that he was talking about and that's going to allow more gas to come into florida by boat. still not going to be easy because shipping gas in is not something you can droch on a dime. but they're trying everything possible because even if the gas stations have power, which they all have to have in florida, doesn't matter if you have power if you don't actually have gas. garrett, thank you. we'll stay close to you on the story. coming up next, we're going to take a look at what voted against the house bill providing $15 billion in emergency funding for hurricane relief. some of those no votes might surprise you. we're going to capitol hill after the break. plus, we'll talk to a former fema official about how they prioritize relief efforts ahead of a catastrophic storm like irma with all of flar in its path. >> this is a complex forecast. anybody from alabama to north carolina should be watching this storm very closely. it's not a question of if florida is going to be impacted. it's a question of how bad florida is going to be impacted.
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harvey in texas, but also for future disasters, including the one that is descending on america in the next 24 hours, hurricane irma. it also raises the debt ceiling through december 8th, which is why it got complicated. the bill passed 316-90. here is a lock at the 90. the 90 members of the house of representatives who voted against a bill that increased fema funding and increased the debt limit so that we can pay for things that we've already bought. they were all republicans, every one of the 90, and the ones highlighted in red are from the state of texas. four house members voted against giving billions in aid to their state. there were also two florida republicans who voted no. for more on this, i'm joined by casey hunt. casey, obviously the main focus on capitol hill right now is on irma and making sure people are safe, but i have to imagine republicans are still unhappy about the deal that president
trump made with democratic leadership to do what i just talked about, keep the government running and increase the debt ceiling. >> that's an understatement, ali. look, members of congress has vacated capitol hill already, and they did it partly because they really wanted to get this legislation signed quickly and out the door because of the hurricane that is bairg down on florida. and of course the urgency of helping people in texas who were so terribly affected by this flooding. but this was not an easy process for republicans. they have there what is a usual conference meeting downstairs in the basement this morning, but it turned contentious because two administration officials, the treasury secretary and the director of management and budget, who of course is mick mulvaney, a former member of the freedom caucus here on capitol hill, and someone who has not been a fan of debt limit increases in the past, they went in to try to convince republicans to vote for this package and they were met with a serious amount of anger. we spoke to congressman mark
walger right after that meeting concluded. take a lock at how he described it. >> i thought he did a very poor job in answering our questions today. in fact, his last statement was vote for the debt ceiling for me. i thought that was pretty weak. >> do you still han to oppose it? >> yes, i do. >> some pretty tough words there from mark waler. one motd rat republican looked around the room as all of this was unfolding as this republican, conservative, former member of the tea party now the management and budget director and steve mnuchin, a form democratic donor tried to convince them to vote for this. he looked at many he and he said, i looked around and i thought where am i? >> wow. thanks very much. good to see you, by the way. >> you too. >> despite concerns over funding for fema, the only focus is making sure people are safe and have what they need when irma hits. we've already seen the destruction. it's expected to make landfall early sunday in florida as a
category 4 storm. now, for more on the preparations going on in florida ahead of the storm, i'm joined by former fema spokesman daniel watson. daniel, good to see you. thank you for being with us. i guess i've got to get this straight. while fema has warned that they're going to run out of money by this after, we expect this bill to be signed, anybody other than the fema director is not concerned with that, right? they are delivering on the things they have to deliver when disaster hits. >> that's right. right now fema is supporting the state of florida, and they actually have a team that's embedded in the emergency operation center in florida to make sure that there aren't any unmet needs from the state. so the state has commodities that they have prepared, bottles of water, cots, blankets. those kinds of supplies. and fema has their own supplies and everything ready to support in case the state of florida runs out of those things. >> okay. talk to me about -- and i know the normal answer is fema can walk and chew gum at the same
time. but harvey is massive and has taken a lot of fema resources, meaning people, assets. how does fema manage this and by the way, potentially another hurricane behind it later on? >> sure. well, it's important to remember that there are dozens of federally declared disasters every year. so if you see a fire other a flood, it maybe gets one day of coverage, but after that there are months of work from fema in response and recovery efforts. so fema is no stranger to having to work on several disasters at the same time. that said, these are two catastrophic disasters. right now in response -- in the recovery efforts after harvey, over 600,000 people have signed up for disasters assistance. 200,000 of them have received assistance, and that's more than $200 million that's going in recovery efforts there. so fema can walk and chew gum at the same time. they're responding to florida right now and they are also
engaged in those on going recovery efforts in texas and louisiana. >> and, of course, those fires out west. >> absolutely. >> our support for and thanks to the people of fema who are helping with all of these emergency responses. daniel watson, former fema spokesperson. all right. one of the greatest dangers in a hurricane of this size is storm surges. it's not just the wind. storm surjts are massive walls of water that cause devastating coastal flooding. and today the national weather service has issued storm surge warnings throughout the southeast coast where they could see life-threatening flooding within the next day and a half. it's not too hard to understand life-threatening flooding when you understand that these storm surges are eight to 12 feet. a guy who stands very tall in my eyes is wnbc's dave price who is lowsel tracking irma's path. we've got to look out for massive wind damage and water damage. >> absolutely.
that's the biggest issue as you hit light along the shoreline. of course it bears repeating so let's do it. 380 miles to the southeast of miami, ali. and its wind speeds are 155 miles per hour. that's going to come into play with the subject matter that we're talking about, which is the storm surge in just a moment. moving west at 14-mile-per-hour, very interesting fact now. let's just watch it. first big question is does it have any play with sections of coastal cuba to the north? next question is how long does this western pattern continue? and does that appear effect where the eye comes onshore versus the east maybe to the west in places like fort meyers. we're going to watch all of that. and of course, ali, we've been talking about the timing so often and the great strength of this storm, taking it all the way into tennessee, midweek next week with sustained 30 mile per hour winds. but back to what you were talking about, which is the storm surge.
now, in parts of our region we are going to see between six and 12 feet of storm surge. so for those of you not familiar with this kind of -- >> and on that note. >> yeah. >> dave, just hang on one second because you're talking about those storm surges near miami and here is dor i says ride pulling up. i want to go to jacob who i guarantee wasn't going to leave doris until her ride got there. >> nice to meet you. i think we're back. we're back on with ali velshi. alex is here. it turns out alex was doing a very important job. you work at the airport. first of all, are you happy to see your mom? she was sitting outside. she was saying that we came out and she was waiting for a ride r. oh, my son is come, don't worry about it. but there's people inside too that don't want to leave. >> wow. >> so your mom is here. she's ready for her ride, i guess we can say. >> i told doris, alex, i said there's a lot of people on social media on twitter that
were concerned about doris and wanted doris to get picked up and get taken home. so what's your message to everybody watching at home because they wanted to milwaukee sure your mom was going to be safe. >> for everyone, listen, listen to the news. play it safe. >> play it safe. >> and just tell us a quick update. now that your mom is safe. what's going at the airport? i see you work at the airport. >> the airport is kind of slow. there are a lot of airplanes on the ground. we're just waiting. >> a lot of people waiting. >> for the crews to arrive. >> so you weren't the only one waiting. thank you. i'm glad you're here. nice to meet you. can i give you a hug? thank you very much. nice to meet you. >> for everybody have a good time. >> all right. doris, thank you very much. >> thank you for everybody. >> all right. thank you. and alex, thanks again. and to the lieutenant, the lieutenant johnson as well. i guess we're going to head back out with the lieutenant. >> good on you guys. all right. tharngs, everybody. to jacob for making sure because i was getting on twitter to make
sure that doris is not left there. doris's son who was helping people because he was at the airport is now there to pick her up. the miami beach fire and rescue is going to move on and try and find other people who need help or getting out of there. thanks so much for staying on top of this for us. do i have dave price or has dave had to go? because he was telling us about -- all right. let me go -- we've been talking about gas, so i want to go to joe lean kent, because for people leaving south florida by car, fuel shortages are really hampering efforts to get out. joe lean kent is at a gas station. i think this might be your third gas station today if not more along the evacuation route. is there gas where you are? >> there is gas. and people are very happy about it. but miami and fort lauderdale, 37% of gas stations are now completely out of gas according to gas buddy. there's pay lot of people stopped here. mupg them is julie. she's evacuated from key largo and she's not only evacuated herself, but she's got a bunch of furry friends here.
you're looking at. >> cothere who has been evacuated. and julie, i just want to hop in here. thank you for wmg us into your rv. i really appreciate it. please tell me why you approximate decided to evacuate. how was that decision for you? >> we were going to stay, but it was getting too -- the surges are getting high and i have a concrete house, but i have animals. i wanted to save my animals, so. >> wow, that is certainly the right thing to do. there's a lot of encouragement to evacuate, and you've heeded those warnings. >> absolutely. >> tell me, how many animals do you have in this rv here. >> two cats, two birds, a rabbit and. >> co, my dog. and i have another car with two other dogs. >> and you are getting all these folks out. >> got to get them out. >> and where are you headed? >> i think we're going to go to oh cal la, we're hoping. >> and are you worried about your home and your property? >> oh, yes. oh, yes. i'm right on the watered. i'm on the oceanside.
so might lose everything. might lose everything. but you know what? this is it. this is it. >> this is what matters most. >> yeah. >> as you prepare have you been through a hurricane like this before. >> yes. not this strength. i mean, you know, never got a 5, but we went through wilma and andrew, but this one is scary. >> i know we're in this rv and it's getting pretty warm in here. you told me earlier that the air conditioning has petered out. >> my air conditioning is gone, so i'm driving in heat. >> but you're going to make it up and your final destination is further up north. how long are you going to be on the road. >> i have no clue. i no idea what the traffic up there looks like yet. >> we wish you the very best of luck. >> thank you. >> thank you for sharing your stoir with us. >> welcome. if somebody can get my ac going, that would be great. >> guys, this is the story here where along the florida turn peak and we've got tons of people heading northbound, like julie and then also a lot of
cars going southbound, stopping here for gas and trying to get supplies and what they're trying to do is help the folks who are going to be in the eye of the storm. ali. >> i have to think to myself that you might have been watching the jacob sober off thing and how am i going to do this so you gave us. >> co. >> well, look, take a look at him here. >> he's cute. >> braving the storm just like the rest of us. >> all right. you might have won reporter in florida hit of the ten minutes well him. we're going to go back to jab object. and by the way, again, i just want to repeat to people, the reason they haven't shut those highways down is because of this fuel situation largely. they need to try to get fuel there, fuel trucks which in some cases are being escorted by police as you can see here in this shot to make sure they get through. they're trying to refill the gas stations. gas stations in florida don't tend to lose power because by
law they have to have generators, unlike in the northeast where we saw some of them lose power. they have to have these generators, so the gas stations can still work, but they're out of fuel, almost 40% of them. r month in other areas. less than a hundred miles north of miami, people in palm beach county are in mandatory evacuation orders. mayor of coastal town in that county joins me now. mayor, what's the situation there? are people mostly gone or are people -- are there still people sticking around? >> oh, there's certainly people sticking around. this is the calm before the storm. there are a lot of people if they haven't hit the road yet, they're hearing horror stories about gridlock heading to the north and a lot of fierce about moving up north. so we've had a lot of people ignore mandatory evacuations, which is a little scary. i think a lot of people have also kind of just chosen to get up and get out of here. >> you've got about 20% of the
population of jupiter is over the age of 65, which again makes it a harder decision sometimes the older you are to move out and get out of places. but you are under a hurricane and a storm surge warning. >> yeah. so we're a coastal community, so the storm surge adds a complexity to this because everybody is worried about the wind event. you hear these 185, 150 mile an hour winds, so wind is essential the biggest fear, but storm surge is also a big fear. we went through a similar about a year ago when matthew was roaring, coming in, we thought that we were going to be the prime target, so that was a bit of a dress rehearsal. so this storm surge, while significant, is pretty similar to what we expected last year but didn't get. >> right. and i guess that's always the danger, right. there's some people whose minds go right to andrew and they packed up their car, got out of dodge, but there were a lot of people who said you know what? florida gets a lot of warnings
and close calls and things like that and it makes it a tougher decision. you've gotten 15 shelters opened in palm beach county, jupiter is part of palm beach county. what's your gas situation as far as you know? have you got a lot of gas stations still open? >> yeah. gas is -- you have to really kind of utilize the apps and the word of mouth about who recently got gas. really it's not too difficult to find around town for the folks that have stayed. the real challenge gas wise is people who wanted to fuel up and then drive great distances, because, you know, from where we are, orlando is a typical destination. that's probably a two and a half hour trip with no traffic. so you're hearing that taking at least double the amount of time. so you're hearing all these people worried about can i make it, you know, can i make a trip that might take me typically just over a half a tank a gas. can i get there with
three-quarters or a full tank. so that's the real challenge gas wise at this time. >> all right. our sthouts are with you. we are still covering jupiter and palm beach county and all of florida. mayor, nangs for joining us. please stay safe. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up, i'm going to talk to florida's attorney general pom bone dewho is cracking down on price gouging as hurricane irma barrels towards the state. plus in case you missed it, minutes ago doris was rescued in miami beach. her son did come to pick her up. you can see she walked herself over to the vehicle. stay with msnbc for continuing live coverage of hurricane irma as it approaches florida. dad: molly, can you please take out the trash? (sigh) ( ♪ )
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some experts anticipating one as strong as 7.2 to strike later today. senator tammy baldwin of wisconsin has called for the science and transportation committee to hold a hearing after the private hold a hearing after the private information of nearly 143 million people nearly half the population of the united states was exposed in a data breach targeting credit reporting agency equifax. she has requested three equifax executives come forward selling shares despite not notifying the public about it until yesterday. equifax has stated the executives in question didn't know about the hack at the time of the sale. the company is offering free credit id theft protection for a year to anyone who's interested. now to a humanitarian crisis that is almost impossible to comprehend. a quarter of a million people have left myanmar to escape the horrific fighting and
persecution there. the people are part of the rohingya minority that lives in the mostly buddhist country. an estimated 164,000 of the refugees have left for bangladesh in the lot of few weeks and it's putting enormous pressure there. i want to go back to miami beach now. i want to go to jacob soboroff, standing by there in miami beach. he than with the miami -- he has been with the miami fire and rescue looking for those who might be stranded. jacob, what have you got? >> reporter: hey, so we're back with the lieutenant here and we are on -- do tell me, where are we on our way to? >> right now, so what we'll do we left the one stop 535 collins, we circled around the easternly road that we have as
ocean drive. >> what you call an odc -- ocean drive. >> we looked to see what was going on. to see how the preparations are coming. so we did our odc which is the ocean drive cruise and now we're coming across to -- there's another pickup site where evacuees can be waiting for a bus to come get them. we'll check to see if there's people waiting. >> have you seen anything like this? how long have you been doing this? >> i'm about the ohit my tenth year and we have had some close calls with some other storms where we have mobilized. the eoc activated but we have ended up being lucky and getting missed so this is first time where it's been like this. with the evacuation and all of that. so this is kind -- it's new for me too. >> i'm thinking if i'm you, it's your job to save people's lives after the fact. the more people out of here, the less work you have to do after the storm comes through. what's your feeling like the people we just saw. not doris, but the people who
are refusing to leave? we saw a bunch of elderly people, does that drive you nuts? >> yeah, to speak honestly, it does. it doesn't make sense to me but i do understand where people -- you know they want to stand their ground. maybe they have been here a long time. i kind of get the mentality but from a public safety standpoint, it's frustrating because we would love to get them out somewhere more safe because like you said, after the storm when we have to come back in and we're going to be having to do welfare checks and maybe -- >> these are going to be under water. >> a lot might be under water. and we have to try to make our way to them or affect rescues. the more we could get out of here of course it would be better. so i would like more people to have retreated for safety. you know? >> you're sleeping at the station, at the miami beach
station. are you scared? >> no no, i'm not. i don't expect to be doing a whole lot of sleeping but we have the ability to try to catch some rest if possible. but i mean, that building was -- is relatively new. it's built to, you know, current standards, i'll not worried. >> this is why you're paid to do this job and i'm not. i'm not from around here. it's a scary thing to see this entire city, miami beach 91,000 people it's a ghost town. >> i have never seen it like this. it's got an eerie feeling to it. but you know what? we train for -- we're prepared. this was what we do. we help people out. we affect rescues. we do whatever needs to be done. we're problem solvers and we just -- you know, we figure it out as we go along sometimes and we adapt and overcome. that's always like our mantra, adapt and overcome. that's what we do. here we have this major event, you know, at our doorstep and
we're ready, you know, hopefully to get people where they'll be safe for the storm. then afterwards we'll be here to help get things cleaned up and help people out afterwards. >> i know a lot of people are watching this that are grateful for you what you, the men and women of the department are doing. so thank you for having us along with you. we'll see what happens and ali once we get to the next stop we'll check in with you and let you know what we're seeing on the ground. >> our thanks to from the nation to those who are out there. thank you. hurricane irma has killed at least three people in the u.s. virgin islands. what is some of the damage that's been recorded in st. thomas. the area was particularly hard hit by the storm. i'm joined now by congresswoman stacey plaskett who was there before the storm. i understand you might be going back. >> yeah. i'm scheduled to fly out tomorrow. coast guard are going to get me on the ground right there in st. thomas that you were just looking at. >> one of the issues is there are a lot of people there
without cell phone service so we're just not getting the same reporting out of there that we are out of other places. give me a sense of what you believe has happened in the u.s. virgin islands. >> well, surprisingly there's a lot of internet capability so people are communicating via facebook. i would tell people if you're looking for someone our office set up a facebook page. usvi hurricane irma alert. if you go on that public group you'll be able to find out other information. we know on the ground that in terms of electricity, 70% of all of the utilities are gone on st. thomas. meaning the structures the themselves. on st. john it's completely obliterated. additionally, we have lost our hospital. >> wow. >> many government structures, post office, fire stations. police stations. and right now the governor, our
local emergency management assistance agency as well as fema are trying to clear debris, board up, working with local small businesses and grocery stores and others to provide safety, help for individuals and also because we're getting ready for jose also coming on saturday. >> we're looking at jose. the last map before i started this show showed maybe jose skirting or touching the virgin islands. what's your sense of what happens now? >> our discussions that have been with noaa and fema is that the virgin islands will at best get tropical storms. we recognize with irma we thought it would be more north and an hour before it sdiped down south -- it dipped down south and really blasted us. so we're telling people you need to be really be cautious. please stay inside. go in the tremendous shelters that have been put up by the red cross, by fema and by others. they're volunteered. we have what you need.
and let's ride this one out and then decide how we're going to move forward. >> you're a member of congress. i have pointed out to my viewers that 09 members of the congress voted against the funding for hurricane relief to reinforce the coffers at fema that are running out today we are expecting the president to sign it. kind of shocking to me that 90 members voted against this, because the president said we're always all together in this stuff. i think it's important to point out to my viewers we're not always all together apparently, but is the virgin islands going to get what it needs in terms of funding to rebuild? >> we have been reassured our office worked the leadership making this was not specific to one location. we know and fema is aware that there has been the -- the islands have been devastated by irma and they're going to allocate the money to us. this money is is a large pot. the senate added on additional funding so we have over
$15 billion that are going to be available for the small tranche. speaker ryan and others have assured us there will be other supplementals. the thing that i'm really concerned about is, you know, as you said, we have seen -- we seem to be forgotten in the media. i'm really grateful to msnbc for the coverage that you have given the virgin islands and puerto rico. remembering that we are part of the united states. we are getting blasted note only by this hurricane, but jose that's a going to come right after. and our needs are really unique because we're isolated. because we're islands. it's taking quite a while for the navy ships to get there. and we're all hunkered down. we're really prepared but this is going to take some time and we need everyone's support. >> well, we at msnbc cover all of america and as you know we have a particular affinity for the u.s. virgin islands and we will continue to stay in touch with you. i'll be anchoring all through the weekend so if you got down there and you have contact let us know and we want know first
hand what's going on with our fellow countrymen. stacey plaskett, thank you for being with us. so before we go, we want to share with you a heart felt gesture. pam breck headed to a lowe's to buy a generator only to find the last one sold. just as she walked up to the counter. queue ramone santiago who offered her the generator he is just bought. >> i don't know him at all. he's a stranger. he's an angel from god is what he is. >> that brings this busy hour to a close for me. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00. hurricane irma is tearing through the bahamas as a category 4 storm the size of texas. after battering turns and caicos