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when i did. >> the ten years of doing this fills me with two things. gratitude and humility. just from the way people approach you. the chance, the opportunity we have to talk about issues. the only thing that has ever bothered me is he's very spoiled, this kid here. >> wow, really? >> listen, what about you, mika? >> great job creating this. >> thank you. >> this is where it all began. it was your idea on a power point presentation you made to phil. i've enjoyed every moment. love the job. loved having my dad on morning joe. >> he was great. like you said, a lot of changes. that certainly was a change. but we thank you guys and thank you for letting us talk a little bit about the past ten years this morning. tomorrow morning, we'll be back to bringing you the news. >> that does it for us this morning. see you back here in ten years. what? >> thank you, guys.
>> i don't think so. >> that's it. >> but you never know. stephanie ruhle takes up the coverage right now. >> congratulations and the extraordinary morning joe team. good morning. i'm stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover today. starting with the russia investigation. reports that investigators had a secret wiretap on paul manafort. an indictment could be imminent. this as trump's personal lawyer goes before the senate intel committee. all of this as president trump is just 90 minutes away from a highly anticipated speech before the united nations general assembly. calling on nations to confront north korea and iran while pushing the world to contribute more financially. so in other words -- >> -- the united nations great. again, make the united nations great. >> he loves that slogan. and here we go again. this one is serious. hurricane maria barreling toward puerto rico after decimating
smaller islands. a state of emergency already declared as 3 1/2 million people are directly in this storm's path. >> the devastation it will cost might be unprecedented. >> we begin this morning with president trump. i mentioned 90 minutes away from one of the biggest speeches of his first term. the headlines on the front pages are two of his hometown papers are not about the u.n. address, they are about president trump and the russia investigation. and i have a great team here to break all of this down this morning starting with nbc's pete effort alexander live at the u.n. peter, multiple reports overnight that are putting the focus back on manafort and the trump campaign. if you recall just a call months ago when paul manafort's name popped up, it was sean spicer going, oh, he was part of the campaign for a short period of time, a volunteer. that's not the case. >> so let's walk you through these new details first reported by cnn.
the government reportedly wiretapping the phone of the former campaign chairman to then candidate trump. paul manafort. both before and after the 2016 election. this was all part of they report a secret court order, a fisa warrant in 2014 when there was an investigation, specifically focusing on paul manafort's relationship to the government of ukraine. turns out the more than one warrant in this case, one initially focused on that investigation that ended during the 2016. another one early this year when the president, president trump, and manafort had, in fact, been speaking. that one focused most specifically on the role of russia interfering, moscow's meddling in the 2016 election. notably nbc news has reached out to paul manafort's team. they are declining to comment. another report from the "new york times" right now detailing some of these aggressive tactics that were used by law
enforcement officials. robert mueller's investigative team going about this. how they literally pick the lock of manafort's alexandria, suburban d.c., apartment in july. these tactic, while he was sleeping, to get inside and gather information and pros scuters beyond that, stephanie, also warned manafort's team that he would be facing an indictment. back to you. >> picked the lock while he was sleeping. i want to remind folks. paul manafort has not been charged of anything. he's not been convictedfed anything. i want to point out, in my 41 years, no one has picked the lock of my house and stormmillion at 6 a.m. diplomat ic correspondent fr "the washington post," along with the author of "trump nation" so this guy truly knows what's inside that tower. and a contributor here at msnbc. paul manafort, a possible
indictment, possible news that he was wiretapped. what is more worrisome for the trump team? >> well, clearly, the possibility that manafort has information about back and forth between russian government intermediaries and the campaign at a crucial time in 2016 has hung over the trump white house since the first days. presumably people close to trump know what manafort has and may have in his apartment. but it's possible that they don't know the whole of it. so the unknown is a huge risk there and the fact that bob mueller does not play, right. like picking the lock will tell you all you need to know. he's essentially going about this like a mafia investigation. you pick off somebody, you know, fairly low, unimportant in the organization, and you see what they know and you go from there.
so the idea that there may be -- that they could use manafort to get somebody else, like potentially somebody a lot closer to trump. there are many people with the last name trump here, right and, you know, that's obviously a huge risk and an unknown for trump and those close to him. >> tim o'brien, you wrote "trump nation," but is d.c. mueller town? when you think about all the noise several months ago about president trump claiming on that saturday morning that trump tower was wiretapped. could that be what he's talking about here? if paul manafort according to this cnn piece was wiretapped, his apartment, which was in trump tower, before or during the election, could this be what trump was all frenzied? >> i think there's a distinction from what donald trump knows and what donald trump's afraid of. i think he's been very afraid of the russian investigation since its launch. i don't think he knows many
particulars other than his own involvement with certain people being investigated. i think the key things here and ann gestured towards this in "the times" story, they noted that mueller's tacticings are i to an organized crime investigation. i think where this starts for trump and his family, collusion is an issue, but the stuff that really looms is potential obstruction of justice or any financial quid pro quos. did trump or his relatives jared kushner in particular negotiate favors like lifting trade sanctions or economic sanctions on russia in exchange for either business deals or loans? i think coming up behind them is manafort. and whatever manafort talked with them about over last 18 months. and clearly he was under surveillance. i think that's an issue that's going to come home to roost. i think they have a lot to be afraid of here. >> surveillance doesn't mean it
was illegal wiretapping. we have to clarify that. in theory, a federal judge would have had to say there was some sort of probable cause that would warrant wiretapping. >> there's a court that does that. fisa court. foreign intelligence surveillance court. it's a secret court in washington and washington geeks love it because they, you know, they meet in secret and they issue these secret warrants and usually we never find out about fisa warrants. and traditionally, whenever the government asks for a fisa warrant, they get it. there have been a few cases where that didn't happen. but the court is very strict. and in this case, apparently, reportedly, the fisa court at some point said wait a minute, i don't think we have enough cause to continue here, and they revoked the government's permission, whereupon the fbi stepped in. >> wowowser.
you've known them for dwight so quite some time. what do you think is in store? >> donald trump is surrounded by lawyers who have been bumbling at every step. this week alone we just saw ty cobb and -- >> i mean that story is extraordinary. >> at a restaurant publicly in washington, d.c. talking very loudly -- >> they're on the sidewalk. >> on the sidewalk about the parameters of this investigation. at a minimum, it's injudicious. but that would not be out of keeping with every single lawyer donald trump has ever had in his orbit. >> i guess week after kasowitz e-mailed and said watch your back. all eyes on president trump in front of the u.n. general assembly. i've spoken to people inside the white house who said the goal is to keep president trump on
script. but we know how that goes. >> when looks between the monitors and addresses the folks in the room directly. it's going to be interesting to see the world reaction from world leaders. a lot are going to see president trump in person here. speaking directly to the general assembly today. a senior administration official saying this is basically going to be a clear-eyed view the president is going to present of the way he sees the challenges in the world right now, focusing on iran, as it was described by an administration official, the north korea menace, venezuela and syria certainly among the focus. he'll talk about the need to share the burden among countries. to not just rely on the united states as they address their common goals. here are some details we got of administration officials speaking to reports in advance of this speech. saying what the president is doing is explaining how the
principle of america first is not only consistent with the goal of international competition but a rationale basis for every country to engage in cooperation because all countries that are sovereign put the needs of their own citizens first. a couple points worth noting. this is a president who routinely in the past derided the united nations, criticized it, basically saying it was not a friend of freedom. but now he's dependent on this very body to help implement those punishing sanctions against the united -- against north korea. specifically on north korea what will be noticeable, the north korean delegation will be front and center. seating assignments are done by lottery. the way things worked out, they'll literally be feet away from president trump. >> feet away. i need my panel to weigh in. michael pesca. you a you know why he's late, because of the u.n. traffic. he's the host of the daily podcast "the gist." president trump, you tweeted that trump's debut is his most
consequential moment on the global diplomatic stage yet. why? we saw him in poland, we saw him in saudi arabia, we saw him in sicily. >> twice. where he's weighed in on policy. and i think he's clearly going to tackle two weighty issues hanging over the national security of the united states. north korea and iran. the problem in all of this is that he's been ill informed in most of his prescriptions. i think on iran, he's accused them of being in violation of the nuclear agreement but he's not clear on specifics around how he thinks they're actually in violation. and with north korea, they've already run the table with military threats against north korea. he hasn't left a lot of diplomatic wiggle room on the table. and i think the speech he gives today is going to go a long way to clarifying where he stands. >> you think he's going to talk about those long gas lines in north korea that don't actually exist? the white house has said this speech, you know, is rooted in sort of the ones he delivered in
poland, in saudi arabia. and those speeches were not widely adored. i mean, some liked it and said, you know, they defend western val us. others said they were rationally charged. they showed tones of religious paranoia. >> the speech he gave in poland was nearly universally praised for trump. i think we'll get a version of that teleprompter trump, written maybe by mcmaster. maybe to signal to his base that he's still putting america first. that line, that last line that pete quoted there, talking about, you know, it is all sovereign nations essentially do that. that's sort of recasting the idea of america first as just normal international relations. and to me him saying that is almost diplomatic gesture in and of itself. don't take this america first too seriously. we're all putting our own countries first if you read into that a bit. >> he prerepeatedly called on or countries to help with iran and north korea. is he going to be effective?
is there something the president can do to push them over the fence? or does he remain ill informed and people aren't sitting on the sideline, they are doing their part? >> a lot of other countries hold the cards here. the iranian deal. the u.n.-backed multiparty international deal that trump is very skeptical of. other countries are pressuring trump to stay in. and they have leverage there. because if trump walks away, there's a whole -- you know, there's a lot risk here that iran will not only speed up its nuclear development, but potentially spread its -- u.s. calls malign activities in the middle east. so that pressure goes both ways on north korea. the, you know, as you said, the idea that military -- there is a military option, the mill they're threat is out there, is
very worrisome to other countries. they'll be very carefully listening to see what trump says about that today. there's pressure being applied on him as well. the u.n. security council has twice in the last several weeks passed very, for them, very strict economic sanctions. there aren't a lot of other places to go on the economic pressure front. and so this is sort of a -- yn a put up or shut up moment for trump if you really are going to put a military threat on the table. what does that mean and how much are you willing to describe it? in the confines of a 20-minute speech about the way you see the world? >> also, let's not forget the state department is in disarray. you've got a president weighing in on complex global issues. with the secretary of state. who hasn't filled key position, in the state department. morale is low. he has critics on basically every front. it gets back to i think this
administration's inability to be good process managers. putting partisan process aside, ideology aside, they aren't very good at managing a very complex moment. >> john kelly's trying to. >> kelly's trying to regulate the president. he's not running a state department and defense department. he's trying to make donald trump act like a dult and a grown-up manager in the white house and seemed to be succeeding occasionally. >> the speech is one thing but it's the side deal, the whispered conversation. and without four out of six i think it is undersecretaries of state in place, without the infrastructure, with rex tillerson being the most disengaged secretary of state in my lifetime, that's not going to go as well. you can give a nice speech that doesn't really move the needle as much. if you don't have the people in place ready to do the ground game, you're not going to get what you want diplomatically. >> when we come back, we have to talk about something that is keeping me up at night. these two storm causing serious
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she made landfall overnight as dangerous category 5. that's the highest. with its sights set on the u.s. virgin islands and puerto rico. jose is making its way north, threatening to bring heavy rain and strong winds along the northeast coast starting today. we have a great team of reporters across the atlantic covering these two major storms. i want to start in san juan, puerto rico, where nbc's tammy litner is standing by. cities like san juan do have strong building codes. they have earthquakes. they have california codes and they're coastal. so they've got florida codes. when you get outside san juan, into the rural areas, people are truly at risk. >> that's right, stef, we spent a lot of time yesterday driving through some of these rural areas and talking with people. i can tell you prep has been under way here in san juan and some of the other areas for days. if you have not gotten your supplies at this point, you're going to be hard pressed to find them. home depots have already run out
of generators. they've run out of gas cans. they've run out of batteries. there was long lines for plywood. we drove around the island and spoke with people that were boarding up their homes. people are taking no chances. another place, the grocery stores right now have been hard hit. the shelves are bare. the government is actually rationing supplies, the amount of baby formula and water that people can buy. let's talk water for a second. i can tell you there are still 6,000 people on this island without water from irma. so you can imagine the scramble to go out and get more water right now. some people describe this as panic. panic has set in. let's talk a few numbers. the airport is closing tonight at 7 p.m. no more flights in or out. there are approximately 500 shelters set up on the island. if this storm, if this hurricane comings in as predicted, i can tell you there's not been another one like this to hit puerto rico since 1928. a big concern, stef. back to you. >> you know what breaks my
heart, last week, when i was leeching the virgin islands, i took a boat to san juan and there puerto ricans had huge relief efforts set up, sending cations and cases of water and blue tarps. it looks like they could use that kind of help now. i want to turn now to nbc's kristin dolgren, in new jersey where people are bracing for jose's effects today. what's it look like? >> hey, stephanie, well, this is why we're talking about jose. take a look back there and you can see just how angry that ocean is coming ashore here. and that's why officials say you cannot think that jose is not a threat here. they're very worried about dangerous rip currents, potentially deadly as we go through today. these are communities that were hid by super storm sandy and had to rebuild all these beaches. now they're afraid it's eroding again in toms river. they're giving out sandbags because they're worried about flooding up and down the jersey shore, into new england.
people trying to protect their homes. now we're just getting reports in this morning about bellemare, new jersey, where the fishing pier has actually come apart from its first two supports. that gives you some idea of just how serious this storm is. just how strong those ocean waves are. so officials say jose, nothing to be trifled with. stephanie. >> just think about this. bellemare, just north of seaside. do you remember what happened to the seaside pier in hurricane sandy, disaster. let's bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins closely tracking both storms. please move that red off the screen. help us. we need good news. >> i'm mostly going to spend all my time on maria. maria is a storm that could affect generations of people living in puerto rico and the virgin islands. this is a storm that will be remembered for a long time. very scared of the humanitarian disaster and potential of this storm. you can clearly see the storm.
that's where all the severe damage was as a cat 5. 160 mile per hour winds. not showing any signs of weakening. the path over san kroy tonight. that takes us to our current radar map. we now can see the eye on puerto rico for the first time. we'll be tracking this over the next 24 hours. this is where the destruction will be. you do not want to be in the eye of a category 5 storm that will tear houses apart. wherever that goes later on tonight is where the worst destruction will be. it will be close to san kroy or maybe in between the the two later on this evening. that's going to be the very close call there. and, again, the most populated areas here near san juan is where we possibly could be watching the storm going, stephanie. there are approximately 1 million people in that northeast quad rent there of puerto rico and that's right where we think
tomorrow the storm is going to be. this could be one of the worst hurricane disasters we've seen in the atlantic basin. period. this is about 1 million people in the way. >> people in puerto rico were feeling so blessed so thankful that irma largely missed them and now this. we're going to take a break. new reporting on robert mueller's russian investigation. why an indictment of paul manafort could be coming very soon. and any minute now, president trump will leave his home in trump tower on his way to the united nations for his highly anticipated address to the general assembly. (vo) dogs have evolved, but their nutritional needs remain instinctual. that's why there's purina one true instinct. nutrient-dense, protein-rich, real meat number one. this is a different breed of natural nutrition. purina one, true instinct. every year we take a girl's trip. remember nashville?
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. time for your morning primer. everything you need to know to get your day started. three people were a rested in atlanta, georgia, overnight, when violent protests erupted during a vigil at georgia tem for a student who was killed by campus police over the weekend. a police car was set on fire and two officers suffered minor injuries. the trump administration looking to change its policy on drone strikes. potentially giving the cia more authority to carry out strikes.
how about this one, alabama senate candidate roy moore is doubling down after using what some saw as racially incensensie terms. roy responded to criticism on facebook, saying his remarkings were reference to a religious song and not about race. and dozens of immigrant activists interrupted house minority leader nancy pelosi's news conference on a dreamer's program monday in san francisco. a group of activists overtook the event, a cuccusing democratf using dreamers as bargaining chips. the iconic toy tore chain toys "r" us has filed for bankruptcy. the company says its locations will operate normally while it works to chip away at roughly $5 billion in debt. that's called getting amazoned. and moments ago, trump's longtime personal attorney, some call him his body man, michael cohen, arrived on capitol hill to face questions from the
senate intelligence committee investigating russia. this as "the new york times" is reporting that two people close to the russia investigation said that prosecutors on special counsel robert mueller's team told paul manafort that they, in fact, planned to indict him. nbc news reached out to manafort's team and they declined to comment. "new york times" reporter matt ap ru so is the man behind that story and joins me now. great reporting. in your piece, you detail mueller's approach to this investigation. first, tell us about that raid in manafort's home and how it's conducted. i am so hung up on the fact that president trump continues to call the russia investigation a ruse. a ruse where paul manafort had his lock picked and they barged in his home at 6 a.m. >> right, it was early morning, paul manafort was still in bed in his home in northern virginia. the fbi picked the lock, forced their way in, and obviously searched the house. they had what was known as a no
knock warrant. a warrant you get from a judge when you say there's a reason to believe if we knock and announce ourselves, that manafort's going to destroy evidence. so really aggressive tactic. we know they got a -- they left with binders full of documents they mirrored as hard drives. they even photographed the suits hanging in his closet. this really is just sort of embodies kind of aggressive tactics mueller has taken. search warrants are really rare in cases where people have lawyers and where there already a back and forth conversation between prosecutors and lawyers. >> photograph the suits in his closet. there's a quote from your article i want to bring out where you say to get a warrant, mr. mueller's team had to show probable cause that mr mr. manafort's home contained evidence of a crime. to be allowed to pick the lock and enter the home unannounced, prosecutors had to persuade a federal judge that mr. manafort was likely to destroy evidence. what does all of that mean for the investigation? and how robert mueller is viewing some of these trump
associates? >> certainly in terms of manafort, they don't trust him. that much is with the aspect of the no knock warrant. you can see the situation. we know in this case, they were looking for evidence manafort had off-shore bank accounts and they were looking at his finances. they say we have evidence of financial crimes against manafort. and donald trump says, okay, fine, but that has nothing to do with election propaganda or hacking. that's paul manafort's problem. i think you started to see the white house already kind of set the groundwork for that story line. as this kind of plays out. >> where's this thing going next? because i already see guys like roger stone on twitter saying, see, they were eavesdropping on us. but they may have had absolute legal authority to be listening in on paul manafort's conversations. >> sure, and this is in regards to that cnn report that there
was a fisa wiretap on paul manafort and certainly, if true, you can't get a fisa wiretap warrant unless you persuade a federal judge that not only is there evidence of some sort of criminal wrongdoing but this person is an agent of a foreign power, illegal agent of a foreign power. existence of a fisa warrant just really would underscore how seriously the justice department has been looking at paul manafort for quite some time. >> robert mueller, this man is getting to work. thank you so much. great reporting. if you haven't seen it yet, you got to get to this piece, it's extraordinary. coming up, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. latest effort to repeal and replace obamacare. they're at it again. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. you're watching msnbc. if you thought the attempt to repeal and replace obamacare was a lost cause, think again. republican senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy are pushing a new bill in a last ditch effort to get the job done but they've only got a few days to do it. here's some of what it would do. number one, no more medicaid expansi expansion. if that goes away, the cbo estimates that 15 million fewer americans could get coverage. instead of that, states would get black grants. it's hard to tell how much states would get. but it would include less federal spending overall,
meaning states would have to cover the same number of people with less money. also, no more protection for people with pre-existing conditions. that means you could technically still get coverage but insurers could charge whatever they want. potentially making insurance unaffordable. and no ban on lifetime limits. that means people with disabilities or chronic illnesses like cancer could be forced to pay until they run out of money entirely. the bill would also mean insurers do not have to provide essential health benefits provided by obamacare. that includes things like emergency services, hospital care, prenatal care and a host of other services that many people believe are basic needs for survival. it would end both the individual and employer mandates. meaning people in large companies no longer get penalized for not buying insurance. but this bill is already getting pushback. on monday, democrats demanded a cbo score before any vote takes place. in addition, 16 groups are voicing their opposition.
including the american heart association, the american diabetes association and the march of dimes. i want to bring in msnbc's garrett haage live on capitol hill. we know the republicans can only lose a couple of votes. and they've only got a few days. can they get this passed? >> they absolutely can, although as you laid out it's not going to be easy. you cove red a lot of the actua meat of this bill. the politics of it are going to sound familiar to the folks who followed this debate back in ul judge the last time we did it. if you still have your scorecards at hole, the same rules apply. republicans can afford two no votes and still pass it. a third no vote kills it. already right now we have one no vote on the board. rand paul, the senator from kentucky, says this is essentially kicking obamacare decisions down to the states. he doesn't think it qualifies as full repeal. he's a hard no. who are the players that we're watching right now? susan collins from maine is obviously someone who voted against all of the previous
iterations of repeal and replace. she said she has concerns about this bill. she's still looking at it. the policy and the process issues are the same. so she hasn't come out as a no. i think she's someone who is probably leaning in that direction. also senator john mccain who i interviewed about this yesterday. mccain says he's comfortable with the substance of the bill, if his governor is. in fact, his governor is. but he's got big issues with the process too. those are the two people we're watching to see if either one of them will join rand paul in sinking this bill. >> i want to bring back my panel. tim o'brien and mike pesca. i want to stay on rand paul who said this thing is like a kidney stone for some republicans. painful but they just need to pass it. >> but he's also -- >> by the way, gross, thanks for that, rand paul. >> he's a doctor, he's allowed. >> he's an opthamologist. the word familiarity is the thing that gives me pause. because i think familiarity might be the enemy of outrage.
some congressional staffers are saying on previous iterations of this idea they were getting inundated with thousands of calls. this time around, four or five. even though we've had two versions, three versions maybe if you include the ones that haven't come up for a vote that didn't pass. and it would seem that this one is very similar to those. so therefore you would conclude okay, this one doesn't have a large chance of passing. that's actually not how it works. but for one or two people changing their minds. we just saw that arizona governor deucy supports the bill and mccain said that would be a determining in his vote. but for one or two changed mind, this thing could actually pass. >> you've got 11 days between now and the deadline. only four of those days do these leaders meet. >> and they have so little else to think about. the great mystery -- >> oh, very sassy. >> what's going to happen to their tax bill. and what's going to happen to daca and all these other things they keep their eye on.
i find it extraordinary they've introductioned this health care proposal at this point in time. when they already went through a debacle twice on this. that left them very battered. left the reputation in disarray. they're trying to prove they can get policy through. and the tax program should have been something they turn to and tried to nail down. and yet -- >> they're not going to get tax done in a few days and they have a chance of getting something done here. if you're a republican, you absolutely hate the shame. i mean, the president himself shames his own party every chance he gets saying you failed on health care. >> well, they're rolling the dice. let's see what happens. i think they're taking a huge risk. >> rolling the dice. we know the casino business has been a if one for the president. >> that's right, former gambler. >> they're rolling the dice on how many millions of people are going to be denied health care? it's kind of crazy. and every one of these bills, they don't seem that popular and they poll really badly and then the cbo comes out with their score and it's either 18, 19, 17 million fewer people with health
care. and that just kills all of them. but it kills it by one vote. so i am telling you, if the particular bee that is in john mccain's bonnet is of a slightly different genius, then he might be a yes vote. >> that's a better image than a kidney stone. >> yes, i'll take a bee in a bonnet over kidney stones any day. up next, a bipartisan organization launching its own effort to ensure no foreign government interferes with future elections. rob reiner and david firm join me next. tech: when you schedule with safelite autoglass,
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315 days after election day and months after intelligence agencies concluded that russia, in fact, meddled in the 2016 presidential election, a new nonpartisan group called the committee to investigate russia is trying to call attention to the need to protect our election process against foreign meddling. and it has some serious star power behind it. i'm joined by former assistant to george w. bush and current senior editor to "the atlantic" david fromme and emmy-award winning actor rob reiner who's
an adviser to this committee. tell us what this committee is doing and why you want it to be a driving force behind it. >> well, you know, stephanie, historically, whenever our country's been attacked, whenever we're under attack, we've always come we have always come together as a country. and you hear the old, the old addage, of politics at the water's edge. this is the first time this hasn't happened. so i started thinking about it and started reaching out to prominent republicans who are principled and realized, this is, this is something we need to focus in on. we need to come together as a country to understand that the russians, not only attacked our democracy during the election, but continued to do that and to continue to try to weaken our democracy, not only here, but throughout the world. and this is an important thing for us to focus in on. and a lot of things it can get lost in all the news, big bombshells that come out every
day. but this is something that is integral to the health of our democracy going forward. >> the news and the noise right now at this moment, president trump is leaving for the u.n. but i mentioned it earlier, think about this, the president is going to make a massively important global address at the u.n. general assembly. yet i look at new york newspapers and it is trump russia on the cover. david, this is a loaded question, but protecting our democracy should not be a partisan issue. why, what is stopping that from happening? >> the russians don't have the military power they used to. they have to use a kind of judo of american's own weaknesses against us. and rob riner's contribution has been to give citizens tools to make them less vulnerable to that kind of manipulation. that's a tremendous contribution. the united states and russia are
heading to a series of confrontations that are a lot worse than they need to be because of the russian actions. we have an america armored brigade that took a position in poland. and they are canadian, british and french soldiers in the three baltic republics. we need better understanding between these two mighty military powers. and the russian involvement inside politics, not just in the united states, but of france and germany. they are creating the crises where they do not need to have crises. >> they are focusing so narrow ly on this area. if you think about how big this is, vladimir putin was talking about the artificial intelligence and says, who ends up owning a.i. will own the world. president trump talks about coal miners. do democrats, are they taking this serious enough and need to
look at this in a bigger, broader way? >> yes, absolutely. we absolutely do. i'm a child of the '50s and remember when we had to do duck and cover drills. we jumped under desks in order to protect ourself against nuclear attack. well, there is a weapon now, cyber warfare, which is insidious and ultimately more destabilizing than the nuclear warfare. and we have to understand that. and i think you're right, i think we have focused too much on what the, you know, what the trump, whether or not he colluded or didn't collude. that is up to special counsel mueller and the investigative committees in the house and senate. we have to, as americans, understand what has happened here. and that cyber warfare is pervasive and can be weaponized and we have to have the proper defenses. and if the president of the united states, for whatever reason, because we feels like
his, you know, his election is going to be delegitimized, if he feels that and is not willing to put the emphasis on what is really at stake here, we as american citizens have to do that. >> david, before we go, cyber warfare is a silent killer. we did see tougher sanctions placed on russia, but did the government even realize what they are doing given what russia is capable of doing, what they have already done in terms of hacking? are more sanctions just child's play? >> we need a whole new legal regime, we need new kinds of revelations. the chinese did a big hack of the former government employees and pulled something like a million records. mine is one of them where they have my social security number, my security file, i'm not very comfortable having that in beijing. where is this information from the equifax file going to end up? hundreds of millions of people in this case. and who appointed equifax the custodian of the most personal information of so many
americans. i think we need to think of these as the critical infrastructure that we are in the habit of doing. the roads and bridges are watched by police. who is watching the data? >> darn right. gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me. i appreciate your effort and time today. >> thank you very much. check out investigaterussia.org. >> we will. on the left of your screen right now, president trump is leaving trump tower. he left just moments ago heading toward the u.n. general assembly meeting. on the right, a live look at the meeting where we expect the president to speak 30 minutes from now. here's the question, prompter or no prompter? which president will we get? business is in my blood. i'm the daughter of two entrepreneurs and had a front row seat to the excitement but also the demands that come with a company. and as a business owner myself, i know the challenges are ever changing. on "your business" we'll learn
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turns out, that is literally true. the delegation is seating in the front row a few feet away from the president. we can see the president going up the elevator there at the u.n. his wife behind him, conferring with ambassador haley who was part of the speech writing process. we know that the president was involved in this, steven miller, his long-time speech writer and secretary of state rex tillerson also had some input to this as well according to one top state department official as the two of them make their way inside. we're watching to see just how the rest of the world will react to the america first president as he tries to thread the needle. america first but not alone, talking outcomes but not ideology. a speech consistent with u.s. values we are told, but not pushing those values. we're waiting just a couple minutes from now for the president to make those remarks. i want to go to the nbc white house correspondent kristen welker at the united nations.
kristen, lay it out for us, what else do we know we're going to hear from the president? >> reporter: well, i think we are going to hear very tough talk when it comes to north korea, hallie. as you pointed out, that is clearly going to be a central focus of this speech. and based on conversations with senior administration officials, the anticipation is that we're going to hear the president really ramp up some of the rhetoric that we have heard. at the same time, this is going to be a scripted speech. i don't think you're going to hear him go off message. he's going to talk about the need for the global community to confront threats, whether it be north korea or iran or the fight against terrorism. i think there's also going to be some very tough talk for iran. of course, there's a critical deadline approaching, the president trying to determine whether he's going to pull out of the iran nuclear deal. that was, of course, negotiated under former president obama. yesterday he was asked about that and said, we'll see. we know that his administration has felt as though iran has crossed the line at various points in terms of holding up their end of the bargain. so i wouldn't be surprised if we
heard some tough talk about that. he was tweeting about the crisis in venezuela earlier today. so he'll likely touch on what is happening in that country as well. but hallie, as a candidate, trump was very critical of the united nations. at one point, even calling it ineffective and competent. so i think you're going to hear him clearly soften some of that rhetoric, but echo some of what we heard yesterday when he held a meeting on ways to improve the u.n., saying that the message is how to make the u.n. great. of course, that twist on his familiar campaign slogan. so the stakes really couldn't be higher. he's going to be addressing the united nations for the very first time, 193 leaders and dignitaries here from foreign countries. and a lot of them hearing from the president for the very first time. as you pointed out, the north korean delegation will be front and center. of course, that is just a coincidence because seat assignments were done at random,