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distortsed the facts about whether president obama was responsible for selling the embassy. >> of course he did. >> one, the trip, the foreign trip america needs to be concerned about is his going to davos. can you imagine this man with his intellect, insecurities sitting there with the elite? i mean, the whole country is going to be embarrassed. >> you and i should go. >> i'll take you up on that. >> my thanks to you all. that does it for our hour. i'm nicolle wallace. "mtp daily" starts right now. hi, chuck. >> hi, nicolle. >> happy friday. >> yeah. that's about what we can say. at least it's friday. >> right? >> that's right. well, if it's friday, an expletive spurs a new existential crisis. tonight -- president trump and race. the country is now openly debating whether the president of the united states is a racist. >> couldn't imagine it. nor did i ever imagine i would be sitting in the oval office
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and hear those words from our president. plus, base politics. can democrats still work with president trump without being punished by their own base? finally, the president's first physical exam in office. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i'm chuck todd near walk and welcome to "mtp daily." what are the consequences of having a president who is viewed by many as openly racist? the consequences of having a republican party that to some appears to be empowering him with its silence? folks, debate all you want about the president's recent language, but you cannot debate what it seemingly reveals about his core beliefs. white europeans are good and brown immigrants are bad. that is why yesterday's oval office meeting with lawmakers exploded. not because the president used naughty language to embrace immigrants from norway while
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rejecting immigrants from haiti and africa. exploded because for many it ke confirmed their view this president sees everything through a racial prism, and may even have his own racist beliefs. the president denied the language. two republicans in the meeting say they cannot recall the language. republican senator jeff flake criticized the language. republican senator bill cassidy is urging colleagues to ignore the language. the language is not the point. it's what it confirms it is. confirms the view of a businessman sued for discrimination, who became a celebrity ranting about president obama's birthplace. who way a candidate calling mexicans rapists, lobbying for a ban on all muslims and a wall and attacking a federal judge because he was a "mexican." who became a president equating nazis with counterprotesters callings rivals names like poke hant
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pocahontas. and folks, the political reality is that republicans are now finding it harder and harder to defend this president's beliefs. this is what paul ryan had to say. >> i read those comments later last night. so first thing that came to my mind was very unfortunate, unhelpful. >> we've got great friends from africa in janesville, who are doctors, just -- incredible citizens. and -- i just think it's important we celebrate that. >> sometimes you need to see -- see -- how speaker ryan says something and not just read it. you could see his body language reinforces his discomfort with this. here's what mr. scott had to say. >> if reports are true, take them back. i disagree completely. >> as or "the language" the president tried to deny, not based on anonymous sources.
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someone in the room went public. some map not be appropriate for some of our younger viewers. >> then he went on when we started to describe the immigration from mick that was being protected in this bipartisan measure when he used these vile and vulgar comments calling the nations they come from shithole. you've seen the comments in the press. i have not read one of them that's inaccurate. he said these hate-filled things and he said them repeatedly. >> senator lindsey graham was also in the room and he put out a statement saying, "i said my piece directly to president trump yesterday." and two sources tell nbc news president trump was working phones last night to gauge reaction to the fallout from the comments he now denies. today he would not answer shouted questions from the press after signing a proclamation honoring of all people dr. martin luther king jr. >> mr. president, are you a racist?
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mr. president -- >> mr. president, will you respond to these serious questions about your statement, sir? >> no. no. >> i'm talking to the president. >> i'm talking to you. >> mr. president, are you a racist? >> joining me now from nashville is senior writer david french. david, let me start with the first question that i started the show with is, what are the consequences of a president that many people view as racist now in this country? >> well, tell you one thing right off the bat. one of the consequences is you take the polarization we already have in the country and dial it to 11, because what, the context and greater context you went through, because this is not just about this one -- this one word in isolation. not one conversation in isolation. it's about all of these conversations taken together since the beginning of his campaign, since the conduct of are his business and what it tells entire, an entire class of americans is there is now an
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extraordinary amount of evidence that he does not view you in the same way that he views many members of his core constituency nap he is not necessarily for you in the same way that he is with the members of his core constituency, and it says to an awful lot of americans that he is doubling down on identity politics, and he is tagging identity politics to nationality and to race, and that takes polarization and that magnifies it and magnifies it, i think, to an even more dangerous level. >> so what are the consequences for the republican party? for many leaders who are trying to do the -- i think mario diaz balart said, i'm trying to avoid distractions, protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers. do you empower it by the silence? >> well, you know, at this point, i don't think anybody has a good answer to that. nobody knows what to do. people in the white house beg
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him, beg him, not to tweet crazy things. they beg him not to say crazy things. he does what he wants to do. he says what he wants to say, and at the same time you've got republicans who want to push through policies that, you know, conservatives like me believe are good for this country. and so there's a real fear. if we burn the bridges, can we get the policies through you? if we don't come out strongly and attack him, is there, are there greater consequences? end of the day, though, you have to, if you have to just default back to what is the right thing to do here? and the right thing to do is to condemn any effort to divide this country by race. any effort to divide the immigrant community by race, because that is so incredibly toxic and not just morally but its toxic, especially toxic given the unique history of this country. >> you know, it's interesting in politics. you ask any pollster. give me the result of one
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question. cares about people like me. right? at the end of the day, cares about people like me. do you think now -- we know the president probably flunks that test with majority of the country. you're sitting at a 35% approval rating. probably obvious. what does it do if you're a generic candidate in 2018? how much is now, you have to fear as rubbing off on your brand? i think you absolutely have to fear that it's rubbing off, and, look. conservatives should understand this instinctively nap question, cares about people like me. why is it that so many millions of conservatives held their noses and voted for donald trump jt they believed the answer, for example, hillary clinton cares about people like me was, no. she's opposed to people like me. so conservatives should understand this instinctively and i think all other things equal, what you might end up having is republicans looking at a vanishing window, almost no matter what they do in these
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next ten months, because the revulsion of the 65% is going to swamp the support of the 35%. >> it seems -- there's, to me, another challenge here. i feel like you correctly pointed out that republicans are running out of ways to, i guess, contain this president. he seems to not be reacting the way other political leaders react when polling is in free fa fall, right? he seems to be clinging to those still with him rather than trying to figure out how to get back the people that he's lost? >> right. you have to remember the unique history of this presidency. a president who came into office in part because the firm belief here was that the polls were all wrong. that in the one poll that mattered he in fact won. the reality is that the national polling numbers were pretty close to right. but it is locked in with an awful lot of republicans that
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all of these polls you're talking about, all of these approval rating numbers, don't mean a thing, because we've heard it all before. and all we have to do is keep our people together. keep our people together and we can shock the world, like happened in 2016. forgetting that this is in many ways apples and oranges and forgetting 2018 will be very different from 2016 for a million different reasons. there's a lot of unwillingness and inability to believe bad polling news because of what happened before. >> i would like you to address another thing. i -- as somebody who's trying to instill character and morality into my own kids, this -- this way of rationalizing him, plenty people have said, he's only saying what many people think. address that, will you? i mean -- address it to our friends that watch another cable channel that host other shows that -- that was their rationale last night.
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david? >> yeah. i mean, look, what works politically is a completely different question, and i'm debating whether this works politically. but what works politically, which is what people defaulted to, is a completely different question from what's right and what's wrong. like you, i'm raising kids. i try to teach my children that they live for an audience of one. there's only one opinion that matters and that's the opinion of a holy god, not of pollsters, not of a population. and in that context, it begins to make things far more clear, doesn't it? when thinking about what's right and what's wrong. whereas in this case again and again we're being told by apologists for the president, is it's okay, because he wins. it's okay, because maybe he's doing just what's been done to us. the turnabout is fair play. no. that does not make it okay. >> i think the phrase, two wrongs are never -- don't make a right, yet it is amazing to me how often the president's supporters cite another wrong to rationalize his wrong.
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david french, leave it there i know you drove through a snowstorm. good grief, man. tennessee and snow? >> a third of an inch. it was horrible. >> it's a good thing the titans have to go to new england. anyway, david, thank you very much. >> thank you. turning to andy card. former white house chief of staff under former president george w. bush and andy -- i hesitate to know what to ask you on this front, because conventionally i think we know what you would suggest to do, but you're dealing with an unconventional president. i guess -- put yourself in john kelly the shoes right now. you go, in a week from appearing to acquire more leverage in your negotiations on daca and immigration to essentially losing all of that leverage with one comment. >> john kelly has a huge task, and he's meeting the responsibilities actually doing a very, very good job, but, look. president trump is not speaking as a republican. republicans are the party of
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inclusion. i'm offended by what he said. i'm offended by what he must think. and you've heard me say many times, taste your words before you spit them out. i don't think he tasted his words before he spit them out. my fear is that he also didn't second guess his own thinking before he even started to think of a word to spit out. so i'm a republican because i think republican, the republican party has been famous for being inclusive. it was the republican party that is the party of lincoln. ed brook. condoleezza rice. we have great leaders in our party. tim scott. and president trump is either tone deaf or he chooses not to recognize the value that comes from every american, and that he is the leader of every single person in this country and the truth is, he's the leader of our great democracy we want the rest of the world to see so they can emulate. we want them to experience the terrific nature of a democracy and the united states has been
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the gold standard. i don't want that tarnished. >> you're 25 years old. what evidence do you have that donald trump's republican party is a party of inclusion? >> the republican party is a party of inclusion. >> what evidence-you're 25 years old and you're a millennial essentially. you're trying to make a case that the republican party is a party of inclusion. i know the history well i know what you're trying to say. how do you with a straight face tell that to people today right now as donald trump's the head of the party? >> well, donald trump is not the one who invites people to be involved in our party. we have the capacity to make our own decisions. if you look at the policies that the republican party believes in. government closest to the people governs best. not washington, d.c. but the government closest to the people. that's why i'm talking to you from new hampshire. they have grassroots democracy works every day led by a republican governor, and they
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also recognize that it's okay to make challenges and make mistakes and lift yourself up and take care of yourself, take care of your neighbor. take care of your neighbor. don't expect the government to have to take care of your neighbor. step up yourself and help take kash of the neighbor. be careful with any dollar you spend in government because it's not your dollar. it belongs to the taxpayers. it's not the government's money. it's the people's money. pay attention how you spend it. those are republican principles and i think most millennials will understand they want to have more say in what they do. they don't want to be told by government what to do. and that's a republican principle. so i think there's a good reason for people to want to be active as political activists. i just don't want people to be turned off so they don't play at all. the great cancer in a democracy is when people say, i'm not going to play. i'm not going to vote, flnot gog to participate and run. i want people to get engaged. if they do, they'll be engaged
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in a role that has them speaking as if they can help empower other people and don't have to lift them up themselves. create a climate where they are lifted by the opportunity that comes by living in this great nation. so that's the republican party i believe in, and i'm proud of the presidents i worked for. they understood that. i don't think that president trump really -- i don't think he is a racist, but i don't -- >> you don't? michael steele, former -- the former rnc chair threw in the towel and called him a racist. >> well, he certainly has sounded like a racist, in his repetitive comments insensitive invite that label, and i just -- don't want it to be the republican label. please, donald trump, don't allow that label to become the republican label. it's not who the republican party is. >> andy, your passion on this is impressive, but you know you're in the minority right now. not a lot of elected republicans are frankly expressing the anger
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that you're expressing at him right now. wipe do you thi why do you think that it is. >> they're sensitive to the ramifications in a primary process and that's not what they should be doing. they should be grounded in values and stand up for what is right. look, i like the republican principles that are being established by performance in the house of representatives right now. paul ryan is doing a very good job leading the country and i want them to produce something the president can sign. i think the president will sign legislation produced by this congress. they don't have to produce the legislation the way the president wants it every day. i'm convinces he would say, i understand. you pass something. i'll be glad to sign it. i think he would sign it. i want them to come to a deal on daca. i want them to come to a deal on immigration reform mip was pleased to see tax reform happen. the economy is booming, and we're feeling good about it. let's celebrate those things and
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continue them and that's what we should be doing. this is not a time for the republicans to run away from their core values. they should be embracing core values. >> sounds like you think more members of the party need to step up and publicly tell the president, this is not the republican party. stop speaking for the republican -- what needs to be done to -- >> there are things that donald trump -- donald trump's view of regulations and strengthening our economy, bringing jobs back to america, creating a climate of opportunity, i think those are true values that are republican values. i don't like the insensitive way that his, he tweets messages that are not kind. he says things that are not inclusive, and that's what troubles me, but in terms of his policies, i like his policies. i think he wants to see a vibrant economy that is one where people will have the opportunity to prove for themselves they can make a difference, and not be punished
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for taking risks. after all, taking risks in our economy is what allows our economy to grow and that's what i think donald trump has been doing, trying to create a climate where we are more empowered to do better, rather than having the government do it for us. i like that, but, please. don't claim that our party is going to be manipulated by someone who is latently a racist. don't do that, donald trump. >> what you're describing has no consequence for donald trump. i mean, that's been part of the issue here for him. he's never experienced a consequence for his actions or words that have been racially hateful. right? there's been no political consequence. it is -- is that the issue? he thinks he can get away at it because at the end of the day he'll sign the tax cut bill? >> i'm hoping that congress will come together on its own to create a model of immigration reform that the president will sign. do it without the president. do it by cutting a deal with the
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democrats and the house and senate. >> you're saying cut him out? cut the president out at this point? cut him out? >> if the president is the no going to create a climate where you -- what he says will produce a viable coalition that can get something done. >> right. >> do it without the president. i think he'll sign a bill if it's put on his desk. >> all right. that's what he said tuesday, anyway. he'll sign whatever comes out of that room. andy card, thank you for coming on sharing your views. stay warm in new hampshire if you can. >> thank you. up ahead, much more on what president trump said and what it says about him.
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welcome back. astonishingly excellent. the words used to describe candidate trump's health in 2015 nap assessment came from his personal physician dr. jacob boorstin proclaiming donald trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency's today president
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trump had his first physical exam since taking office on thursday and offered a prediction how it would go. >> how do you think your physical will go? >> i think go very well. i'll be very surprised if it doesn't. >> rear admiral ronny jackson is the doctor who supervised the checkup and will compile results and take questions at the briefing next week. it is voluntary and president trump can choose what information is made public. the past presidents released height, weight and blood pressure levels. it's not sure what the president will share. more on other comments of the president in 6 a seconds.
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welcome back. we use the phrase what a week so often here. might as well say, ah, just another week. bring in tonight's panel. charlie cook and errol lee. i want to get right to, carol,
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this sort of, the two interviews we just heard there. i feel you have. david french trying to be the moral compass of the conservative movement versus andy card who sort of put a political explanation where things are. for viewers, david french said, i don't know what more we can do. >> you saw andy card try to almost quarantine trumpism. put it over here. it's not affecting things over here. >> will it away almost. >> yeah. you've seen this before. it just doesn't work. clearly, that's not what's happening. he's president of the united states. he's in the white house. he's the leader of the republican party. he's having an influence. whether republicans like it or not he is branding the party, and potentially for the long term and you can -- so you see this time and again, republicans try to distance or rationalize or talk around it and act like he's an "other" but he's not.
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he's the leader of the party. >> but i think my job isn't to defend andy, but what president trump says and a lot of what he does doesn't represent the entire republican party. and there are plenty of republicans, like andy card, who are deeply, deeply troubled by the president's behavior and statements, and as he said, there is odd policy things he likes, but so that it isn't fair to tarnish the entire party by some of these things that president trump says. >> you know, politics ain't fair. politics is war sometimes, and the fact is, what is the public going to see? >> right. >> i take your point. i agree. i know what's in andy card's heart. i've known that guy a long time and what's in the bush family's heart. >> i understand the inclination of andy card and old school republicans to say don't let these kinds of things you say tarnish the republican party. >> and idea lp consisteological
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inconsistencies. true republicans are true republicans all the time. >> and it's a little late. on the stage, 2016 election, president trump the only one who fed this instinct and actively, not dog whistle terms with a bull horn fed the fears of the demographic changes in the country. more eth linically and racially diversed. ancestors are threatened by it and president trump spoke to that directly. his immigration policies whether ending temporary protected status for haiti and el salvador. cutting off chain migration fits a pattern of people thinking we want fewer immigrants and we don't like the way this country is changing. that is the essence of what the republican party is standing for now even if all of its adherents don't understand that.
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>> and slow to krcriticize the president. when a bankruptcy happens seems quick, but it actually, it happens over time. >> i think that's true, but i think if president trump -- forget what's in his heart. what's in his self-interests? every time he says something like this, it just makes it a little tougher for republicans to hold on to the house and increases a little bit the chances of losing majority in the senate. and how much -- he's not having fun now. how much fun would that be? so even just out of self-interest he shouldn't be doing this. forget the moral bankruptcy of so much of it. >> carol, his instinct is unlike any other politician in this -- chae charlie and i, polls start changing, how do i get them back? the president said, how do eye clinic to what i have? get my base teddy bear. >> right. his comfort place and when he
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feels has worked for him, despite the growing, mounting evidence that he's his own worst enemy in so many ways. look at the court decision this week on his daca decision, citing one of lof his own tweetr the reason the judge decided that way. that's not in his nature. he thinks the way he won is how he won and everyone told him it woen work saying the same things now and he will succeed in the end. >> he's never paid a consequence. >> he has not. >> and in his 70s now. became president and did all of these things people said he couldn't possibly do by being himself. >> don't do the birther movement. that will ruin your career. >> it's one of the reasons republicans are wary of standing up to him. you saw speaker ryan. we know he's uncomfortable from this stuff from what was said in the past, before he became president. they made the bargain. he's the leader of the party if they stand up to him they'll pay
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a price in the primary. >> what's going to happen in the next week? that's a job. i thought rich lowry made a point earlier today on a program and he said, charlie, the president is inadvertently made a clean daca bill? less likely now. everything is so maybe a bunch of republicans -- fine. clean daca and punt everything else. >> these things will pass. the question, what price will president trump have to pay for it? the price just went up. >> yeah. >> but -- >> a good way of putting it. >> the government's not going to shut down and daca's going to happen, but he's not going to get such a great deal. >> yesterday he a deal, demming helping fund his wall. not by much but get democrats to vote. showman donald trump could have sha ceremony. shovel ceremony. it's odd. >> president trump was initially warm to the proposal senator durbin and graham presented to him in the morning. both spoke to him separately on
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the phone and later on something happened when he was supposed to meet with them and there ended up being a number of other republicans including several hard-liners in the room, and along with members of congress like tom cotton who have a different view. it went south from there. >> we've heard similar. our understanding durbin and graham sandbagged when they physically went in there. the man waxing his surfboard for a big blue wave, dnc chair tom perez. he's next. my mom's pain from
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hi, blake! my dad has cancer. woman: and i know how hard that is to hear. but you're in the right place. man: and dr. pascal and her team, they know what to do. they know what to do. the doctors know what to do. so here's the plan. first off, we're going to give you all... (voice fading away) shoe . welcome back. as we said last night, democrats have a lot to be excited about this year. seemingly the wind at their backs, prospect of a wave election on the horizon but can they maintain the momentum all the way to november? and democratic national committee chairman tom perez. welcome back. >> always good to be with you, chuck. >> do you believe the president's a racist? >> well, you know, when you say
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that someone from haiti and african nations are what he said, and then contrast it with norway, i think that's by definition a racist statement, and it's not just what he said now. it's what he's said about mexicans. >> you're hesitant? not ready to believe he's a racist? >> i think john lewis is on to something. i mean, there's just such a pattern of insensitive racist comments that you can't help but wonder that he has malice in his heart, but i think -- you touched on it in an earlier interview. what's more noteworthy, the notion donald trump made a racist remark again is a dog bites man story unfortunately. conduct unbecoming a president. it's wreckless. to me remarkable is the appalliappall ing silence of republican leaders. dr. king said to ignore evil is to become an accomplice in evil. when you hear people like paul
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ryan saying, it's unfortunate. i mean, it's unfortunate when it rains before a nats game and you need a rain delay. it's an and da kabdication of leadership. and drew card, a good man and great public servant. but the party of lincoln is dead. the silence of the republicans in the senate and house is because they understand that donald trump is enabling them to do this. >> if you vote with trump on any legislation you're enabling him? >> hey, if donald trump wants to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, i would vote for that in i were a member of congress. >> even if you believe all the things you just laid out about him? even if you believe he's a racist. if he agrees with a -- if he agrees to do something you want to do i better support him? >> my job, focus on the issues that matter most to people, chuck. what is unconscionable where
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we're at now is this is not only divisive, it distracts us. prevents us from tackling it's i the issues. da daca, the cat c.h.i.p. c.h.i.p. reauthorized. the puerto rico, 40,000 without electricity. talking job creation. the level of growth in jobs in the last year is slowed from previous years. slowest rate since 2010 is what we should talk about. >> if it's okay for democrats to vote for trump if trump comes to them, do be absolve republicans who don't like his comments but he's supporting things i support, that's why i'm enabling him? if you continue to support, willing to vote with him on things just because he agrey were you you on a specific
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position, aren't you enabling him? this to me is the dilemma of governing right now. >> first of all, the question is hypothetical, because donald trump has never brought anything to the table that was anything but the republican proposal. >> daca. willing to do a deal on daca a. clean d.r.e.a.m. act is one i would support. a clean d.r.e.a.m. act. it's important to understand, democrats have had their moments in history, where they had to confront racism, and they've said to people like george wallace, you are no longer welcome in the democratic party. republicans are having this moral leadership moment and they are failing miserably. what do you say to your children time after time when you see the president engaged in such reckless and childish behavior? and when you're reckless, you're not making america stronger, not making america greater. you're making america weaker. >> so how should democrats in congress work with this president?
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do you continue to try to work with him? would that be your recommendation? or do you say, halt it. let's go to the ballot box. >> hey, i'd say, bring back the 2014 immigration bill that passed in a bipartisan fashion in the senate. bring it up for an up or down vote in the senate and house. let's see where it goes. let's take up issues like the minimum wage, again, i bring these two issues up because historically enjoyed bipartisan support. the d.r.e.a.m. act, 70% of americans. and if we bring those issues up, these are pocketbook issues that enjoyed bipartisan support and would command a majority in both houses. the problem is, paul ryan is kowtowing to the far right. that's why our politics are broken. >> quickly, believe it or not, hasn't been a week since the president oprah boomlet.
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you want oprah to run as a democrat? >> up to oprah to run. i think we'll have a field's candidates. it she wants to run, she'd be able to say, unlike donald trump, born on third base and thought he hit a triple, she ran her way around the bases because she's had a lifetime of achievement. there's going to be a bumper crop of candidates and i think we're all be leading with our values and our job is quickly we need to make sure that the process is fair to everybody and then we need to make sure whoever wins has a great infrastructure of organizing and technology to win. >> we look forward to the first 25-person debate. tom perez, chairman of the dnc. thanks for coming up. up ahead, something you may not have known about president trump, but he's happy to tell you about it.p-fl s? boot! great. smokey or natural eye? ugh, natural. good choice. how about calling or texting? definitely calling. puppies or kitties? sorry, cats. dry eyes or artificial tears?
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welcome back. tonight i'm obsessed with something president trump said yesterday, and no has nothing to do with haiti, africa or immigrants. the president gave an interview with the "wall street journal," you may have missed that. in addition to saying mexico would still pay for the wall and has a very good relationship with kim jong-un of north korea, he bracked, surprise, how successful he's been. at everything. you've heard some of it before. school, business, branding, television. and then he said this -- i was always the best athlete. people don't know that. but i was successful at everything i ever did and then i run for president.
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first time. first time. not three times. not six times. he ran for president in 1999. i ran for president the first time and lo and behold i win. oh, is he a smart person? smarter than all of them put together, but they can't admit it. this is all in a transcript. i'm not making it up. the "they" is nbc, which he says is bitter he didn't re-sign for more years on "the apprentice." politico put it, who cares? come on. he's the president of the united states. you won, dude! just imagine how the right would have reacted if president obama was obsessed with his columbia and harvard pedigree and bragged about his jump shot? no doubt president obama had the best jump shot ever. swish, swish, swish! he never hits the rim. we'll be right back. the most shocking result was that i'm 26% native american.
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panel is back. charlie, when you're on this table i walls to be a little more midterm politics. today actually, in this week we actually had a lot of developments on mid-term. what was interesting is how different candidates are trying to handle trump. here's martha mcsally today handling a question from a reporter. our own reporter garrett on the s-hole comment. >> when the president talks about immigrants, is that racist? is that acceptable to you? >> well, i speak a little salty behind closed doors at times as well so i'm not going to throw the first tone on using any language. >> and earlier today, yeah, i speak like a fighter pilot. what was interesting was jim who now just moved from the ohio governor's race to the senate race was asked about it. and he said i always have somebody following me. i have to be careful with my
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words. everybody is trying to figure out how to compartmentalize trump. >> well, they have primaries they have on win and you're looking at a president here is getting 80, 82, 83% job approval ratings among republicans. once they get past primaries, they can probably have a tiny bit more flexibility. but we're talking during the break. self-preservation is a strong thing and they have to survive primaries. >> and martha mcsally is running against the ultimate trump id in joe arpaio. >> so you can see even more so why that would be important to not really alienate the president. but also, i talked on somebody on the hill in republican leadership who today said, thank goodness he's at the doctor. we get a couple hours with nothing new. so if any of these people win, welcome to the party. this is what you're going to be doing the rest of the time while you're in congress.
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this is what republicans have to do every day. >> and the mid terms loom large. they'll be dealing with small electorates who are very passionate, in many cases anti-immigrant. >> she herself has to vote on this. that's why the president's vote is so ensarahio. there's no scenario where he doesn't give active push back that this is amnesty, what they're all afraid of. the senate will be a little easier. we've seen they're more willing. >> just talking about mcsally specifically. first combat female fighter. flew a-10's in iraq. that's awesome. the thing is, if she's the republican nominee, republicans have a 50/50, give or take chance of holding the seat. if one of the more exotic republicans win the nomination -- >> you call them exotic. >> that goes down to 10%.
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>> you know what's interesting about martha mcsally, i look at the tennessee open race too, and it is very like i, if republican their druthers, that they have a woman there. she has to get through a tough primary and marsha blackburn who ideologically is better positioned to get the primary. it is interesting to me that mitch mcconnell has realized this early. he's been targeting women candidates. i think toenhe knows to stave se it is on the backs of no, ma'am neath. >> women know wave whole sexual harassment issue that's looming over congress as well. and potentially could take down more people. so you have that and then you have, what is the best inoculate or in terms of president trump and the thing that turn voters off and women often embody some of those things. and they need to put up for all the reasons you were talking about, better candidates or they're really going to lose in
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november. >> suburban women and white college educated women are two key demographics. a lot of people thought they would flip on the ballot and it did not happen. they ended up supporting trump. if the theory wasn't enough to make them vote democrat, maybe the reality will be. >> i think the doug jones roy moore is a reminder. even to a lesser extent, barbara comstock arrived in a year when -- trump got clobbered in her district. so there's something there that you can maybe salvage some of these suburban republican women. >> these candidates, they all want to win the presidency. if you're in a competitive state or district, you're always better off if the other side has the white house. >> look how good, chair mccakac kl's. >> if we had known we would win control of the senate we would
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have run better candidates. >> a good way to close. very quickly, the governor of missouri, can he survive the scandal? >> if he just toughs it out, hunker down and tough it out. >> if there is no more. but yeah. it's tough. >> charlie, carol, it's just another week in american politics 2018. up ahead, norway or no way! for
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in case you missed it, mr. president, maybe norway just isn't in to us. he said he wants more norwegians to emigrate to the united states. do they want to come in norway is one of the richest countries. and it is the happiest country. it is not even just a u.s. news thing. the same puts the united states at number 14. that's not bad. there are some 200 countries. they have universal health care in norway. a slew of other benefits. the murder and incarceration rates incredibly low compared to the united states and norway's life expectancy is better than ours for both men and women of the so maybe we should be the ones, because norway doesn't seem to be pining for us.
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on behalf of norway, thanks but no thanks. which group of people would have good reason to stay put? to misquote the beatles, it seems norwegians would. that's all we have. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." good evening. >> good evening. my quick question, have you seen a week like this yet? because there was a definite bipartisan reaction which is different than some of the scandals. >> i guess. at this point, every week goes to 11. at some point, 11 is the new 10. i got nothing. i'm running out of adjectives and metaphors. which is a sign of the 11ish -- 11 is the new 10 is something to think about. we'll be watching this sunday. thank you. tonight we have breaking stories. chaos rocking the white house with the one problem caused by donald trump's own words. the other breaking,


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