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favorite part of skiing there. opening that mountain up to people and giving them a whole new world. i'm stephanie rule. will be see you tomorrow. coming up, more news with another person back from davos. >> see you in 60 seconds on set. for this unconventional president, the most conventional of traditions, the state of the union. donald trump's first. for a divisive president, a chance to unite. talking bipartisanship, the economy with a preview ahead. the backdrop, the russia investigation casting its shadow over the white house. with new developments on the mysterious memo you have heard about coming tonight. we may get to see it with new reporting it takes aim at rod rosenstein. we'll have the three things you need to know about this
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hyperpartisan flash point. plus, we are heading to the pentagon looking at something you use every day, your fitbit or apple watch or whatever fitness tracker you use. if you are in the military, you can run, but you cannot hide from technology. that's creating serious problems in the most dangerous hot spots. we have a jam packed show. we are going to start at the white house with nbc's kristin welker. if they are going to say three words, strong, safe, proud. the backdrop is fights, russia, immigration and more. right? >> reporter: a deeply divided nation and frankly, a deeply divided congress. the president is going to aim to strike a tone of bipartisanship. we are told, according to officials, he is going to try to be unifying and optimistic. in terms of the key points he is going to hit, there are going to be four of them, jobs and the economy. of course this is one of his big issues. he is going to tout his tax
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reform plan, the fact it was a big victory for this administration, for the american people. then he's going to be looking forward. he'll call on congress to pass infrastructure reform. an infrastructure package he is going to unveil soon. last week, he unveiled immigration giving d.r.e.a.m.ers a pathway to citizenship. that is the big fight set to unfold in the nation's capital over immigration and national security, more funding for the military. expect him to talk about north korea. will there be a fire and fury tone? officials indicating that is not the tone he is going to take, it will be more measured. you are right, this comes against looming controversy. the russia probe, which is ongoing, then, of course, the pitched battles between the white house, between capitol hill. will he stick to the script? that is always the question. that's always the question,
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right? >> i tell you, i was struck in davos, coming back from switzerland. he stayed on script. he stayed on message. there's no reason to think he won't do that with the state of the union. but, as you know, this is a president who sticks to script one night and blow it up the next. >> reporter: that's right. there's always room for vamping when it comes to this president. will he do that tomorrow night? you are right, hallie, it's not likely, but of course it's a possibility. one more break with tradition that is worth noting. typically, we see presidents hit the road to sell their state of the union message. >> right. >> this president not planning a multi-state tour, as we know, but that could change. that's a break with tradition. the strategy is to have him here holding key meetings and continue the pitch to lawmakers on capitol hill.
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>> nice to be back in the same continent with you. i'm joined by political analyst, peter baker. a prif to have you with us. our panel, tell mun doe correspondent. he spent all his time breaking the conventions. he will stick to script. he's not going to unveil any big initiatives. is that a missed opportunity for this president? >> well, i think he's trying to reset the tone a little bit of his presidency. we see this every time a president gets up there for a speech. the one night of the year you have a clear shot at a big audience without a lot of contradiction. as you said, he's likely to stick to the script. remember last year, he gave the not quite state of the union, a few hours earlier, he threw the whole thing up into the air by
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saying, hey, maybe i'll do a comprehensive immigration deal, which he didn't. everybody kind of went for a while. he can stick to the script for that one hour, the other 23 hours of the day you have to wonder about. >> as i talked about, the backdrops of this. the moments, culturally that you are going to see come front an center at the state of the union. some members of congress bringing guests related to the me too movement and the moment of national reckoning with powerful men. you have the president talking about this moment with piers morgan this weekend. i know you caught that. i want to play it then talk to you about it on the other side. listen. >> are you a feminist? >> no, i wouldn't say i'm a feminist. that would be going too far. i'm for women. i'm for men. i'm for everyone. >> do you think, peter, the president will have to address this me too movement given you have members of congress that
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will be dressed in black with the time's up movement? >> yeah, it's a great question. any other president might feel compelled to do it, compelled to weigh in on this national debate. i don't know if this president will feel compelled to. he doesn't necessarily react that way to this issue. this is fraud for him. he's not a feminist. plenty of women out there say he is part of the problem or was part of the problem, certainly, made allegations against him, his comments caught on "access hollywood." he's not a perfect messenger. for him to say something about it, unless it involves something personal, it probably wouldn't go over very well. my assumption is they will skip past that. we can see. the one thing we know is he is not predictable. >> he servely likes the element of surprise. one of the things he is going to talk about is jobs and the economy. that comes as this is creating
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new problems for him in the world of pop culture. the president went after jay-z this weekend because the president has been talking about the unemployment rate and specifically the black unemployment rate. here is what jay-z had to say about the president's comments. >> it's not about money at the end of the day. money doesn't equate to happiness. you are missing the whole point. you treat people like human beings, then, you know, that's the main point. >> so, the president tweeted about this. he tweeted back at jay-z saying inform him because of my policies black unemployment is at the lowest rate ever records. you can see it there. here is the thing, he is correct about that. as you can see from the graph, that rate has been declining before donald trump came into office, right? but, it gets back to the point of sticking to the script. what happens with this whole controversy over the s-hole remarks and can they be
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perceived the way he wants? >> we already see the white house did send a letter to the african union saying the president does support african nations and holds them in the highest regard. it puts the president in a situation where he's constantly or his administration is constantly having to clear up his words, what did he mean to say, what he did not mean to say. >> here is what fredricka wilson thought he meant to see. she will not be at the speech. >> i don't think he deserves to be honored at this time after being so hateful towards black people. and, then, black countries, haiti and the whole continent of africa. >> darlene? >> well, it's an interesting point that she makes. president trump talking about black unemployment being the
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lowest that it's been in a long time is a point he's been making for the past couple weeks or months in tweets and speeches. >> yeah. >> it's just him taking credit for whatever economic improvement or gain has happened under his watch, whether it is a direct result of anything he's done since he's taken office. >> i appreciate that respect. i'm going to ask you two to stick around. peter baker, thank you for talking. i want to talk about the backdrop. when we talk, we are remiss to not talk about words, the russia investigation, the record low poll numbers for the president and the possibility of maybe a reset. according to 538, president trump has the lowest average approval rating than any of the three predecessors at this point in their presidency. can the state of the union do anything to turn the numbers arnds. former governor of new jersey and e.p.a. administrator and
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former bill clinton chief of staff. governor, i'll start with you. is this a chance for donald trump to reset with the state of the union tomorrow? >> it's certain what he's got to try to do. i think people are desperate for a reset. they want to see something better than what they have been getting and want to see more stability. they want an upbeat message. it will give the opportunity to bring some people back. his base is not going anywhere. it doesn't matter what he does, it's clear, he can do anything and they will stay with him. his challenge, if he wants to keep congress and be re-elects, 34% of the people will not do it next time around. the rest of us figured out the polling and the ballot box matters. they are going to get to the polls. this is something he's going to have to try to use as a vehicle to reach out to those who are right on the edge that were for him, now they are not sure. he's got to bring them back. >> as somebody who has been inside the white house, you know, we know that stephen
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miller, rob porter, john kelly and others have been advising the president on speeches. what would you be advising the president to do to do what he needs to do? >> there's no question about it. you said it right, in front of the curtain, behind the curtain and the poll numbers. we'll see if he can get two in a row. welcome back from davos. >> thank you. >> see if he can give a morning in america, ronald reagan speech. he's got a good story about the economy, even if you want to debate the credit he deserves. that's what he needs to do, whether he can rise to the occasion. we have to wait and see. that's the challenge. >> is it a missed opportunity not to hit the road after the speech? >> it could be, but that's been done with mixed results. i don't know that's a big miss. we'll see. but, it is important that he have a very strong, unifying message and follows up on that, whether it's on the road or
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however he does z it. it will be interesting to see what kind of speech steve miller writhe writes. >> it will be. govern governor, this all fits in the theme, this is a president that is anything but traditional. that's not a hot take, just plain facts. that brings me to an op-ed with fareed fare fareed. >> our government and institutions has never been lower and it is going down. that's a dangerous thing. people have to trust the rule of law and believe their elected officials are going to act within parameters of normalcy. we have seen that. it's not just this president. we have seen things before that have shaken us when fdr ran for a fourth term. richard nixon's behavior
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resulted in a new law. what we are looking at is to devise a set of agreed upon principles enacted into law or ones people can adopt and say this is what we have to have and put it before the american people and hopefully to get those in elective office to decide to take steps to institutionalize these things. >> one thing that struck me is you write you don't want to be politically idealistic. i want to get to that point. is it political to assume it can go from words to action? >> i don't think so. i have seen it again and again. people will take action. as i said, with richard nixon, they enacted a law for the special prosecutor. that's run out now, but we had a law there. it can be institutionalized in law. we need to protect our courts and judiciary and the freedom of the press. things we always took for granted, they were the norms of
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written behavior. we seem to be veering out of control and we have to bring it back on track. >> i think the rule of law, hallie, is a tip of the democracy. what you see an overwhelming majority, people in the country are losing some faith in washington's ability to function and solve their needs. >> why wouldn't they? look at what's happening going what the heck. >> exactly. i think president trump needs to make the point. he can shift from campaigning to governing. this speech will give him the opportunity to do that. >> thank you for joining us on the show, i appreciate it. msnbc will have all day coverage tomorrow leading up to the state of the union address, 9:00 eastern. big day. see you then. we'll see you after the break. there's a top secret memo putting republicans on the hill at odds with the d.o.j. what is inside this thing? why does it matter for the
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so, there's a mysterious memo at the center of the russia investigation fueling a hyperpartisan fire on capitol hill. tonight, we might all learn what is in this thing. here is the thing. devin nunes and staff drafted the memo. it shows abuses related to the
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ongoing russia investigation. but, democrats, who have seen the memo, say facts are cherry picked. now, "the new york times" citing three people familiar with the memo refers to deputy attorney general, rod rose enstein. reveals that rosenstein approved an application of a former trump campaign associate shortly after taking office. as of this time, it's not been reviewed by the doj or fbi. the doj does not want this released before they can look at it. the house intelligence committee might vote at 5:00 to release it. the president has not seen it yet. here is how they see the process unfolding. >> the process, as laid out, involves the house of representatives, the white house and the president of the united states. the department of justice doesn't have a role in this process. >> msnbc is on the hill.
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this is a complicated and partisan story. break it down what we know about when and if this could happen, the process for releasing the memo. we have reporting on what else is in the memo and who it is talking about. >> we had an interview with the congresswoman of florida. a lot of what is in the memo has to deal with surveillance done during the campaign, specifically about carter page, the off-sited former foreign adviser to then candidate trump who was under surveillance. it does detail some of that effort to get surveillance on page took place. as to how and when it took place, the house intelligence committee had a regular meeting, 5:00 on mondays as they fly back into town. a source says they could vote as early as this evening to do their part of the declassification process on
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this. that kicks things over to the president, who would have a couple days to review this. the white house made clear he wants to see this memo out in public. presumably, we could see it late tonight, if all the parts click into place today. >> i'm going to ask you to stick around for a couple minutes to talk about other russia related things. tom dupree, former district attorney general. let me start with the revolution that carter page is mentioned in this memo. does that suck some of the juice out of this thing? carter page is not jared kushner or jeff sessions, right? >> that is for sure. carter page is not the center of the trump orbit. it is fascinating to see the breakdown between the white house and the justice department. the white house pounding the drum that this memo must be released saying doj doesn't have a role in it and doj pushing back. >> you know the justice
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department. >> i do. this is extraordinary and unprecedented. you typically do not see the white house firing away saying release this over dojs strong objections. they are saying this should not be released unless they cleared that with the white house. we are in unchartered territory here. i suspect the republicans on the hill might be more receptive to the white house than the doj on this. >> where does this go? >> the memo is going to come out. in this investigation, we have seen things cannot be kept secret. there's enough political will on the hill and the white house to push this out in the public atmosphe sphere will it will be debated. >> democrats want to release their own counter memo. here is the full picture. the argument from a lot of democrats is they are trying to, the republicans are trying to undermine the doj and fbi with this thing. there is a division now.
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you are starting to see in the gop about passing a bill, passing legislation to protect the special counsel because of this robert mueller. listen to what we have heard in the last 24 hours that exposes this. >> i have legislation protecting mr. mueller and i'll be glad to pass it tomorrow. >> it certainly wouldn't hurt to put that extra safeguard in place given the latest stories. >> i don't think there's a need to protect mueller. if an issue arises, we'll take it up at that time. there is not an issue. why create one? >> if they release the memo, how do the susan collins' react? >> this puts us in a difficult position. number one, if you vote, in my opinion, to pass legislation to protect mueller, are you saying then that the president can't be trusted? the president said he was the law and order president needs to
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be kept from trying to interfere in this investigation? on the other side, if you don't vote to pass legislation to protect mueller, then are they going to be later on accused of being complicit with the president? >> all of this is happening against the backdrop of the russia investigation. i want to get to garrett on this. there is a big deadline coming up today looking at sanctions on russia. talk us through the power congress gave the president. what are we watching for today? >> this is the back end of the vote they passed to impose additional sanctions on russia and russia-linked entities for interfering in the elections. we are expecting to see three things they require from the treasury department. first, announcing new sanctions on business es working with russian defense and intelligence
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companies. and a report on the effectiveness of other sanctions to date. all of that is due from the treasure department. democrats have been warning for a couple days, the administration has been slow walking this, trying to get attention on it. it's not clear what steps congress can take to force the issue if treasury doesn't follow through today. >> we are about to find out later in the day. i appreciate you staying on top of that. i'm going to ask you to hang out longer. tom, appreciate you joining us, as always, for this discussion. more coming up after the break. we want to talk about this little device. you might be wearing it right now. a lot of troops wear it, too. could be making them more vulnerable overseas. why the fitness app trackers to count your steps is looking for a way to keep military secrets safe. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad...
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we are back now with a look at the morning headlines. several republicans are donating money they receive from an organization tied to steve wynn. speaker ryan received $1,000
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from the wynn group. he says he will give the money to a local charity. wynn stepped down after "the wall street journal" said he sexually harassed women. he denied it saying it was propostrouse. did you catch the piers morgan interview with donald trump? raised some eyebrows. morgan asked whether the president believes climate change is real. he made eyebrow raising remarks saying the world is cooling and warming at the same time and icecaps are record levels, incorrect. scientists say they are at record lows. there's that. the pentagon officials are looking into a possible security breach of a fitness app. here is the story first reported by "the washington post." back in november, this gps tracking company, strava
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published a global heat map to show where athletes are working out with things like fitbit a. closer look at the online map shows the locations and outlines of well known military bases. this could reveal more than exercise habits, patrol routes. hans nichols is doing this story. it is not realtime, but the pentagon is taking it seriously. >> they are looking into the matter. we have learned a lot about pattern of life on the bases in difficult places, war zones, frankly. not only do we know what the running routes are like, we know about potential other bases we didn't know about, scattered throughout africa. why do we know? a lot of sailors, soldiers and marines like to use apps to track their running. strava is one of those apps. we have a sense that got 27
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million users. we have a sense of running routes and their pattern of life. here is ha the pentagon said about it. this is statement. d.o.d. takes matters like these seriously and will determine if additional training or guidance is required. i have to come clean here. i use strava. when you bike into the olympipe, i can see other people coming. you have a bunch of overlaid routes, whether running or biking and you get a sense of which routes, in this case, a reporter, take. that's betraying. >> how is strava responding? >> initially, look, we want to remind everyone you can turn off the gps tracking on the app. that's what they told "the washington post." overnight, they said we take the
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safety severely. we will address sensitive areas that might appear. one thing to say about military personnel, they like to get their runs in. they do a lot of working out, whether it's in a small base in kandahar or inside kabul. you have a real sense of what the running routes are, based on this digital bird's eye view. >> yeah. sook see how they work with strava and the changes at dod. >> the changes would be not using those apps. >> turn it off. turn off the gps and work with strava to black out the area. i mean, so the troops that are in mali and places along the somali coast. this could be locals as well. the issue with fitbit and strava is it is a wealthy product.
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these are people that i don't believe that many nigerian forces are using this because you can tell that. when you go to cities, there's not a lot of density there. there's only density at the known military bases. hallie? >> hans nichols there. thank you. for more, i want to bring in former deputy national security adviser. msnbc senior security analyst, friend of the show. juan, how big of a deal is this to you? face nating piece. interesting to look at. potentially dangerous or is that overstating it? >> well, i think we shouldn't be hysterical about it, but i think it reveals a vulnerable that is important in the age of social media and tracking devices. in the early days of social media, concerns about soldiers and law enforcement and intelligence officials putting pictures up that reveal things about them and their location.
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then, the question of crowd sources intelligence, how that was affecting national security. now you have this revelation, revealing sensitive sites, potentially, patterns of life, supply chains. it's part of a pattern of social media and tracking devices that impacts national security in a way that we are uncovering. >> right. >> i think this story is part of that. >> that brings me to two questions. what could a bad guy get out of this? big operational security fail. patrol routes, lots of stuff that could be turned into actionable intelligence. what is that actionable intelligence? >> the irony is the most sophisticated military's and operators like the u.s. and perhaps the british are the ones using the devices. it reveals in difficult
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environments, places like syria, somalia, where the most sophisticated actors are and where the u.s. will be. it not only reveals those sights but potential supply chains. you have the heat maps aligned to where we are louisvilling material, men, even weaponry. that reveals things that shouldn't be revealed to the general public, certainly not enemies. finally, it reveals where people are. if you are talking about where the taliban, where isis and others want to target their truck bombs or artillery. it gives a map. even if it's not realtime, it gives a report, a mapping function for non-state actors that don't have the kind of resources the u.s., british or french make. >> should the pentagon have known about it earlier? when talking advancements with security flaws, how does the
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pentagon get hold of that to try to get ahead of it? >> the military has to figure out what devices are personnel using. what is necessary, what's not. how do we turn off the devices so there's not the connectivity especially from sensitive locations. the pentagon had to work with the apps themselves, the companies, to say, look, you shouldn't be publishing where u.s. military sights are and figure out what those companies are. i think we have to deal with this. the next stage of this is, can the bad guys target more effectively based on the devices and you have the internet injecting itself. so, this is part of a spectrum of challenges in this era of social media and tracking devices we have to be careful of. >> i love having you on. thank you for that perspective. >> thank you.
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bipartisanship that republicans and democrats can get behind. peter alexander took a look at what we might expect for the next year. there he is. peter peter alexander at the white house. >> reporter: he will speak with a deeply divided nation. he is going to try to strike a tone of unity. building a strong, safe and proud america with a long list of priorities on president trump's second year agenda. president trump brands himself a winner. >> it's a lot of fun when you win. >> reporter: to succeed in 2018, the deal maker-in-chief will need to focus on a long list of key policy priorities. the president recently implementing a deal. >> when this group comes back, hopefully with with an agreement, i'm signing it. >> reporter: comments favoring
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immigrants from norway over haiti derailed progress. >> i am the least racist person, that i can tell you. >> reporter: they face a march deadline to decide the fate of so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers. this is a signature of his campaign. >> don't even think about it. we will build the wall. >> reporter: it remains unclear where he is willing to give. >> a great infrastructure bill. a lot of support from both sides and get it done as quickly as possible. >> reporter: infrastructure is right for political compromise. few dispute they need to upgrade the highways and bridges. many republicans are likely to oppose it for spending. >> $1 trillion in infrastructure investment. >> reporter: democrats may be reluctant to cooperate with a historically unpopular president.
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aides tell nbc news in 2018, the president will emphasize 2017 achievements. >> 2017 was a year of monumental achievement. >> reporter: a crucial vow remains unsolved. >> we have repealed obamacare and will come up with something that will be much better. >> reporter: the new tax law took a hatchet to the individual mandate. overhauling obamacare will be that much more difficult with an already razor thin margin in the senate. then the challenges abroad. >> north korea best not make anymore threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> reporter: president trump's tough talk on north korea an effective strategy or does it elevate the risk of nuclear war. on iran, the president refuse zs to recertify an obama era deal. >> iran is not living up to the
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spirit of the deal. >> reporter: will congress intervene? looming over it all, a c contentious election season. maintaining control of the house and senate may be the most pressing. will this president stick to the script tomorrow night. he did in davos. he did in the joint session of congress. this year, the president routinely breaks precedent. what he matters may matter less than what he says in the days and weeks that follow. >> and the tweets he sends on wednesday morning. peter alexander, thanks. i'm back with our panel. your reaction? >> one of the things to keep in mind about the 2018 agenda is that peter alluded to it being an election year. the window to get things done is shorter than last year. so, if he's talking about getting infrastructure and this immigration deal, there's a lot of legislative business that is carried over from last year like
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lifting the debt ceiling, the budget issues. before you know it, they have to work on next year's budget and they haven't finished last year. >> the unfinished business. >> a lot to do in a short period of time. we have some of the more memorable state of the union moments over the years and one of the worlds history yans to talk about what those moments mean and what we can expect tomorrow night. that's next. today, the new new york is sparking innovation. you see it in the southern tier with companies that are developing powerful batteries that make everything from cell phones to rail cars more efficient. which helps improve every aspect of advanced rail technology. all with support from a highly-educated workforce and vocational job training. across new york state, we're building the new new york. to grow your business with us in new york state, visit esd.ny.gov.
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so on this show we're not just looking ahead to the president's first state of the union tomorrow, we're also looking back at how previous presidents have used this platform. you've got one memorable example, fdr, 1941, telling a war-weary public the world must be founded on four essential human freedoms, it bend on to define the post world war ii era. lbj in 1965 describing his plan to alleviate poverty and advance civil rights. those presidents, right, using that moment to define an agenda, to set their administration's
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path. but in the modern era, has the purpose of this speech changed? how. joining me now to answer those questions is presidential historian and nbc news contributor, john meacham. we asked you to do some homework and pick some state of the union moments that you think have defined these speeches in the modern era. we'll go backwards, 2002, george w. bush. i'm going to play the moment and talk to you about why it's so significant. >> iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward america and to support terror. states like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world. >> why was that such an important state of the union moment for you? >> well, we were five months from september 11th. for many people, i think george w. bush really became president after the chaos of the florida recount on that friday after the
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attacks, remember, when he stood in the pit at the world trade center and said, you know, we can hear you. and this was in many ways the forward-leaning statement for expanding the war on terror beyond afghanistan to iraq ultimately and by using the phrase axis of evil, he courted both support with a hawkish base and also invited a lot of criticism because some people interpreted the word axis to mean somehow these three countries were acting in concert in the way that the axis powers had. but it was very clear at that moment for anyone who doubted that george w. bush intended to use the power of the united states to take the fight to the terrorists as opposed to playing defense. >> there was also bill clinton in '96 talking more about what was happening domestically. watch. >> i say again, the era of big government is over. but we can't go back to the era of fending for yourself.
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we have to go forward to the era of working together as a community, as a team, as one america. >> important to that moment, john? >> well, you just showed lyndon johnson who in 1964 and '65 proposed a great society. lyndon johnson had argued with characteristic texas maude industry these were the most exciting times to live in since christ was born in bethlehem, which lyndon thought was in texas. but in many ways, 30 years on what clinton was saying is there was a new democratic party. that in fact the state could not be the first instrument of public action, that there had to be consultation with the market. and in many ways, that set up what was a pretty remarkable win in 1996 and it was the midpoint of that -- of clinton prosperity in the 1990s that showed that the democratic party was not captive to the old ways.
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>> there was also ronald reagan back in 1982. watch. >> just two weeks ago in the midst of a terrible tragedy on the potomac, we saw again the spirit of american heroism at its finest. we saw the heroism of one of our young government employees, who when he saw a woman lose her grip on the helicopter line dived into the water and dragged her to safety. >> so we nowadays see presidents regularly reference the guests at the state of the union but that wasn't a thing back when president reagan did that. this time around you're going to have the mayor of san juan is coming to the state of the union along with senator kirsten gillibra gillibrand. you have people coming to make points with lawmakers and the president. >> and that began with ronald reagan, who is the great actor,
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and he understood that by embodying the virtues he was talking about he had a better chance of communicating that message. president reagan in many ways always communicated best in anecdote, in story. and he transformed the state of the union from a kind of policy moment to one in which human drama would be a critical element. >> and likely what we will see, at least some of tomorrow night. john meacham. thank you. you definitely get an a plus, i appreciate it. lori and darlene, i appreciate you hanging out. we'll be right back with today's big picture.
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for today's big picture, we're headed to afghanistan where the violence this week is hitting some pretty scary new levels. i want you to take a look at this. you're looking at a man, a father, not even able to stand up after hearing his son was killed in a bar cacar bomb in k. it killed nearly 100 people, hurting even more of the it came just days after a siege at a hotel which left 22 people dead, including four americans. in 2017 every day ten civilians were killed on average every single day. the photographer of this photo, omar savani for reuters. we'd love to hear your thoughts. i've posted a couple of pictures from my time in davos, switzerland, and traveling with ali velshi. stephanie ruhle here in d.c. hi, guys. >> stephanie is the davos queen.
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>> the advice was excellent. i brought my big boots to your wisdom and it worked out well. >> nice to see you here. >> you too, guys. >> good morning, i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm stephanie ruhle. thrilled to be back here with my partner here in washington, d.c. it is monday, january 29th, let's get you started. tomorrow night he's going to deliver his first state of the union address as commander in chief. >> a senior administration official says the president will tout gains in the economy, while also calling on congress to pass a trillion dollar infrastructure package and immigration reform. >> i think you're going to talk about the fact that america is open for business. >> the president is going to speak to the whole country. he's going to speak to democrats. we want them to support our infrastructure plan. >> the president will deliver tuesday's speech with a number of controversies looming. democrats and even some republicans expressing support for legislation to protect special counsel robert mueller. >> it certainly wouldn't hurt to put that extra safeguard in place given the late

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