tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC September 29, 2018 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
♪ it's been a while and i'm mixing up this drink ♪ ♪ i just need a girl who don't really understand ♪ ♪ i just need a girl who understand ♪ i've seen her i knew she had to snow ♪ ♪ i seen her take down that tequila by the liter ♪ ♪ i knew i had to meet her ♪ bump and grind ♪ she mine ♪ girl bump and grind ♪ angelina thank the lord for the day to woke a fine girl i don't even know her game ♪ who woke up by a girl i don't even know her name ♪ ♪ walk a
♪ you know me ♪ you know me ♪ you know man ♪ every time you try to forget who i am ♪ ♪ i'll be right there to remind you again ♪ ♪ you know me ♪ you know me ♪ why don't you shake something snake something ♪ ♪ for the don don't you break nothing break nothing ♪ ♪ big girl won't you woke something work something ♪ won't you shake something shake something ♪ ♪ don't you break nothing break nothing baby girl won't you work something work something ♪ ♪ because you know me ♪ girl you know me ♪ but now they know me in new
♪ i hear the secrets that you keep ♪ ♪ when you talk, talk, talk in you told me not to worry about those guys those guys ♪ ♪ you told me that you left it all behind ♪ ♪ behind ♪ it's a lie ♪ a lie ♪ i'll catch you every time ♪ in your lust your lust ♪ every time you close your eyes ♪ ♪ i hear the secrets that you keep ♪ ♪ when you're talking in your
sleep ♪ ♪ i hear the secrets that you keep keep keep when you talk, talk in, talk in ♪ i hear the secrets that you keep when you talk in your sleep ♪ ♪ i hear the secrets that you keep ♪ ♪ when you talk talk talk in let's see those hands. let's go. ♪ what the loves from your heart ♪ ♪ i see that you're -- ♪ i can see the love in your
eyes ♪ you can't hide it ♪ you can't be the one ♪ ♪ i realize ♪ and i know she'll be the death of me ♪ ♪ ♪ she told me don't worry about it ♪ she told me don't worry no more ♪ ♪ ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you but i love it i love it ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you but i love you but i
love you ♪ ♪ i know she'll be the death of me ♪ she told me don't worry about it ♪ she told me don't worry no more ♪ ♪ we both know we can't go without it ♪ ♪ she told me you'll never be alone ♪ ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you ♪ ♪ but i love it but i love it ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you but i love it but i love it ♪
♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you but i love it but i love it ♪ ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you but i love it but i love it ♪ ♪ she told me don't worry about it ♪ she told me don't worry no more ♪ we both know we can't go without it ♪ ♪ she told me you'll never be alone ♪ ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you ♪ ♪ but i love it ♪ but i love it ♪ i can't feel my face when i'm with you ♪ ♪ but i love it ♪ but i love it
♪ tell me what you really like baby i can take my time ♪ ♪ we don't have ever to fight just take it step by step ♪ ♪ i can see it in your eyes cause they never tell me lies ♪ ♪ i can feel the body shake and the heat between your legs ♪ ♪ you've been scared of love and what it did to you ♪ you don't have to run i know what you've been through ♪ ♪ just a simple touch and it can set you free ♪ ♪ we don't have to rush when you're alone with me ♪ ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming baby ♪ ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe
♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe ♪ you are not the single type so baby this is the perfect time ♪ ♪ i'm just trying to get you high and faded off this touch ♪ ♪ you don't need a lonely night so baby i can make it right ♪ ♪ you just got to let me try ♪ to give you what you want ♪ you've been scared of love and what it did to you ♪ ♪ you don't have to run i know what you've been through ♪ ♪ just a simple touch and it can set you free ♪ ♪ we don't have to rush when you're alone with me ♪ ♪ i feel it coming i feel it coming babe ♪ ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe
♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe scream one time for me. ♪ >> that's much better. ♪ you been scared of love and what it did to you ♪ ♪ you don't have to run i know what you've been through ♪ ♪ just a simple touch and it can set you free ♪ ♪ we don't have to rush when you're alone with me ♪ i feel it coming ♪ ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming ♪ i feel it coming babe
♪ and she'll never know that ♪ these eyes that i'm staring at ♪ ♪ let me see that ♪ bring your love baby i could bring my shame ♪ ♪ bring the drugs baby i could bring my pain ♪ ♪ i got my heart right here ♪ i got my scars right here ♪ bring the cups baby i could bring the drank ♪ ♪ bring your body baby i could bring you fame ♪ ♪ and that's my words to you. just let me love you ♪ ♪ listen ma i'll give you all i got ♪ ♪ get me off of this i need confidence in myself ♪ ♪ listen ma i'll give you all of
me ♪ ♪ give me all of it i need all of it to myself ♪ ♪ so tell me you love me new york let me ask you one thing ♪ can you tell me you love me ♪ don't you love me today ♪ just tell me you love me baby ♪ ♪ just tell me you love me ♪ i'll give you what i need ♪ i'll give you all of me ♪ even though you don't ♪ even though you don't ♪
at least two? all right. it's cool. fortunately no one got hurt tonight, but you know how much i love are you, so much. i have a cut it a little short tonight. it's all good. i still feel the love. ♪ we found each other ♪ i held you out of a broken place ♪ you gave me a comfort ♪ but falling for you was my mistake ♪ ♪ i put you on top ♪ i put you on top ♪ i claimed you so proud and openly ♪ ♪ and when times were rough ♪ when times were rough ♪ i made sure i held you close
to me ♪ ♪ so call out my name ♪ call out my name when i kiss you so gently ♪ ♪ i want you to stay ♪ i want you to stay even though you don't want me ♪ ♪ girl why can't you wait ♪ girl why can't you wait until i fall out of love ♪ ♪ won't you call out my name ♪ girl call out my name and i'll be on my way and i'll be on my ♪ ♪ i said i didn't feel nothing baby but i lied ♪ ♪ i almost cut a piece of myself for your life ♪
♪ guess i was just another pit stop til you made up your mind ♪ ♪ you just wasted my time ♪ you're on top ♪ i put you on top ♪ i claimed you so proud and openly babe ♪ ♪ and when times were rough when times were rough ♪ ♪ i made sure i held you close to me ♪ ♪ so call out my name ♪ so call out my name when i kiss you so gently ♪ ♪ i want you to stay ♪ i want to you to stay even though you don't want me ♪ girl why can't you wait ♪ ♪ girl why can't you wait until i fall out of loving ♪ ♪ won't you call out my name
>> how much can we get before they cut us off the stage? one, two? shout, one, two, three, sing it. ♪ the only time that i'd be by your side ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch senate feel me ♪ ♪ ♪ i only call you when it's half past five ♪ the only time that i'll be by your side ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch me not feel me when i'm that's the real me ♪ ♪ i'm going to let you know and keep it simple ♪ ♪ trying to keep it up don't seem so simple ♪
♪ and you going to have to do it at my tempo ♪ always trying to send me off to rehab ♪ ♪ drugs started feeling like it's decaf ♪ ♪ i'm just trying to live life for a moment ♪ ♪ and all these -- that's chorus number two. let's hear it. ♪ i only call you when it's half past five ♪ ♪ the only time that i'll be by your side ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch me not feel me when i'm that's the real me ♪ ♪ i only call you when it's half past five ♪ ♪ the only time i'd ever call you mine ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch me not feel me ♪ ♪ i'm when i remember -- that's the real me ♪ ♪ that's the real me babe. so i said ♪ hills have eyes the hills have
eyes ♪ ♪ who are you to judge ♪ who are you to judge ♪ hide your lies girl hide your lies ♪ ♪ only you to trust ♪ new york ♪ i only call you when it's half past five ♪ ♪ the only time that i'll be by your side ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch me not feel me when -- that's the real me ♪ ♪ i only call you when it's half past five ♪ ♪ the only time i'd ever call you mine ♪ ♪ i only love it when you touch me not feel feel me ♪
>> welcome back to the 2018 global citizens festival on msnbc. you're looking live at central park. we have had an incredible day. it got very eventful. >> yes. >> sure did. >> breaking news included. >> although thankfully not real breaking news. just sort of fake breaking news. >> a little issue, but we were all right. >> janet jackson. amazing. >> amazing. >> incredible. >> amazing. >> that was the one that had everyone here wild. >> and john legend.
>> also a little tribe. >> little tribe. >> i feel like we need to hear from arri with the review. >> q tip was on teenage. that was unexpected. chris martin doing a cameo. >> calming the crowd. >> and it was fantastic. janelle monae talking about survivors of sexual assault with incredible power. cardi b giving power, i'm sure there's some people watching at home, our msnbc moms maybe going who was that? that was cardi b. >> even janet jackson, a message of power for women. >> janet jackson, every year it seems like it's getting more political. janet jackson talked about her personal experience with abuse. everything about this concert, this year is about connecting with people out there and making sure they feel safe. >> and empowering women was the
♪ ♪ >> here's what senator jeff flake says he expects from the new fbi investigation of brett kavanaugh. >> obviously that includes the allegations. so to interview people there and also i'm sure the new yorker piece. the ramirez allegations. but they'll have to decide, the fbi what that is. how far that goes. this is limited in time and
scope, and i think that it's appropriate. and when it's a lifetime appointment and allegations this serious, and we ought to let people know that we're serious about it. >> a lawyer for brett kavanaugh's high school friend mark judge who dr. ford says joined in the alleged sexual assault said today if the fbi or any law enforcement agency requests mr. judge's cooperation, he will answer any and all questions posed to him. a lawyer for p.j. smith who dr. ford named as being at the party, the gathering, when this happened said his client is, quote, happy to cooperate fully with the investigation. the new investigation will not be able to get search warrants or issue subpoenas like a criminal investigation. but "the washington post" reports if investigators uncover evidence that kavanaugh lied to lawmakers during hears or on his background check forms, that could spark a criminal investigation in which the law enforcement could use the full extent of legal powers. during our discussion now, former assistant u.s. attorney
in the southern district of new york and legal analyst. the fbi has a week. what are they going to do? >> so, lawrence, i think there's about four categories just right off the bat that the fbi should and probably will focus on with respect to the ford allegations. the first is obviously mark judge. a probing interview needs to be conducted of mark judge. the statements through lawyers are obviously not enough. i think kavanaugh said during the hearing fbi agents don't draw conclusions. yes, but they interview people every single day and do draw conclusions about their credibility and whether people are telling the truth. there are many ways to do that with mark judge to figure out what he means when he says he doesn't remember. does that mean it didn't happen or he can't remember. he needs to be asked questions about his and kavanaugh's drinking habits. then the other category are the other people who might have been
not car miparticipants or witne but present that heeevening. i would use the july 1st calendar entry and the list of names there and ask all those participants there that may have been the night in question she's talking about. it may not. it sounds like a similar type of gathering. then i would put in this category of the prior consistent statements, the corroborating witnesses who dr. ford spoke to. and those are so important. because remember, the people that she claims to have told this about previously, this was before judge kavanaugh was ever even on the short list for the supreme court. and so it goes to her motive. if she really did tell them about this by name or in general description, it back then, it really would show that she's not lying now. because she has no motive. she isn't trying to take him down from the supreme court. this isn't a political motive as some have said. and then the last category i would say would be just generally talking to kavanaugh's
friends from high school, from college about his drinking habits. the drinking is central. and i know to some it may sound petty. it's central for two reasons. one is it goes to whether there's an explanation to whether he didn't remember the event. did he black out? he never answered that question. he dodged it. the second reason it's important is because he's made so many statements about the fact that he didn't drink to excess both in interviews and even in the hearing as much as he tried to dodge it. so if we show that is just patently false. if that come out of the interviews, then we'll see possible, i think, referral for perjury. >> and anyone who thinks that drinking too much or questions about drinking too much in a senate confirmation don't matter, that's one of the reasons why john tower on his way to confirmation as defense secretary was defeated. was the problems with his answers to the drinking questions and how much of a
drinking problem he had. mimi, thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> there has never been as much testimony about beer in a confirmation hearing as there was yesterday. even that apparently was not enough to describe how much brett kavanaugh really drank in his high school and college years. two college friends of brett kavanaugh's will join us. so don't try and reinvent the wheel, just follow what he says and it'll help- sorry i have to take this. we're good. hi. uh no i need it right now, yeah...
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kavanaugh deal with questions about just how drunk he got when he was in high school and in college. >> have you ever passed out from drinking? >> passed out would be, no, but i've gone to sleep. but i've never blacked out. >> you've said you've never had gaps in memories, losses, whatsoever, never foggy recollection about what happened, that is correct, sir? yes or no? >> that's what i said. >> so you're saying there's never been a case where you drank so much you didn't remember what happened the night >> you're asking about blackout. i don't know. have you? >> some of those who knew brett kavanaugh during his yale years are coming forward to say that's not true. kit, the cut reports that kavanaugh and his crowd whom winter character rises as loud, obnoxious frat boy-like drunks. were the hardest drinkers on campus. there was a lot of vomit in the
bathroom. no one ever cleaned it up. it was disgusting. it wasn't oh, this weekend someone puked in the bathroom. people were constantly puking in the bathroom constantly. kavanaugh's other roommate was james roach earlier this week publicly released support with debra ramirez, alleging kavanaugh exposed himself to her while he was drunk at a yale party and thrust himself so close to her face she had to push him away and touch him in a way that horrified her. roach did that witness that incident but says kavanaugh, quote, was a notably heavy drinker even by the standards of the time, and that he became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk. liz swisher, a friend of kavanaugh's from yale told "the post" brett was a sloppy drunk, and i know because i'd watch him drink with a lot of people.
he'd slur his words and stumble. it's not credible for him to say he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess. another friend from yale, lin brooks recalls seeing kavanaugh drunk at a party for his fraternity. after watching kavanaugh's interview on fox news on monday she told "the post," he's trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy, you can't lie your way on the supreme court. and with that statement out, he's gone too far. lynn brooks and lynn swisher will join us after this break. e? i just introduced you to my parents. psst! craig and sheila broke up. what, really? craig and shelia broke up!? no, craig!? what happened? i don't know. is she okay? ♪ craig and sheila broke up! craig and sheila!? ♪ as long as office gossip travels fast,
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and purchase a new samsung phone. visit your local xfinity store today. we drank beer. we liked beer. >> what do you consider to be too many beer s? >> i don't know. you know, we -- whatever the chart says on blood alcohol chart. >> you know who doesn't know what too many beers is? someone who drinks too many beers. joining our discussion now liz swisher and lynn brooks. both were friends of kavanaughs in college and roommates with deborah ramirez who has accused brett kavanaugh of sexual aggressiveness i guess we could call it. liz swisher, your reaction to what you heard brett kavanaugh say under oath about his drinking? i was appalled. i was clearly lying, and it was
incredibly disturbing to see somebody perjuring themselves who's in line to be a supreme court justice. >> lynn brooks, your reaction to what you heard? >> i agree. the reason that i decided to speak out was when he gave the fox news interview, and as i said in "the washington post" tried to paint himself as a choir boy where all he did was study and play sports and every once in a while he would have a beer, and that's simply not consistent with the brett kavanaugh i knew in college. >> i mean, liz, he could have testified that, yeah, you know, i drank. i got drunk a lot. i don't do anything like that now. that was my, you know, teenage years and my college years and then gone back to his i think good talking point that, look, i did all my homework. i got all my work done so how bad could it be, but he seemed to try to do everything he could to minimize the drinking. >> that's what was surprising to me is that i drank too much in
college, i think a lot of kids drink too much in college, but if you're able to get, you know, get your work done and you move on with your life and you don't drink as much, but we all drank a fair amount and we made some stupid choices. that would have been totally fine if he had said that, i wouldn't be here today. >> and, lynn, let's talk about deborah ramirez, you both were roommates and friendly with deborah ramirez and her story of brett kavanaugh being really incoherently drunk and dropping his pants and aggressively thrusting himself in her face, and she had to push him away and touch him in a way that disgusted her. what was your reaction to that story? >> well, i did not witness any of that kind of behavior. i didn't witness that specific incident, nor did i witness brett doing that at any of the parties that i was with him. i do believe debbie ramirez's
account. she is not someone that would come forward and lie, but that's not behavior that i witnessed from brett kavanaugh. >> and liz, what was your reaction to debbie ramirez's story? >> yeah, well, that was very upsetting because i do believe debbie. she's very honest, she was an innocent person, but i was not able to corroborate that because, again, i wasn't there. but men rarely do those types of things when other girls are around. >> lynn, the ramirez, debbie ramirez accusation is something that presumably the fbi will take a look at this week. do you suppose they'll be able to find anyone who might be a witness to that? >> well, she does recall people in the room, and there were certainly people that were referenced in the new yorker article, although their names weren't given. i could certainly determine who they were and hopefully they will speak truthfully to the fbi.
>> and liz, you see a college friend of yours on his way to possibly a big job, as big a job as you can get really, and he starts having to talk about his drinking publicly and he understates that it, why wasn't that something you could just let slide? >> because that was blurring the difference between truth and falsehood, and for somebody who is a federal judge and in line potentially to be in the highest court in our country, there can be no blurring of truth and falsehood. there can be no alternative facts. we need somebody who stands by truth and justice. >> and lynn, certainly there are dozens of other yale people who certainly saw the same thing you did at the same parties. they're not coming forward. what made you decide that you couldn't just sit back when you heard brett kavanaugh say these things? >> well, i tend to agree with liz that it's really important
for people that feel that there's a need for truth in today's dialogue to come forward and speak out. our judicial system is based on the foundation of truth, and if you can't believe a federal judge or a supreme court justice in what they say, then where really is our judicial system, and that's why i got angry when i saw how brett characterized himself in the fox news interview, because it is not consistent. it is not truthful, and there is not a separate reality of alternative facts. people need to speak truth to power. >> and the fbi is going to be investigating now, and because his testimony about how much he drank is now relevant, the fbi might and probably will want to talk to you. liz, are you prepared to talk to the fbi knowing that anything that you say that's not true to the fbi could be considered a federal crime? >> of course. i will speak truth.
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will be no accused sex offenders in the government. do you really want that? is that what we want? >> stephen colbert gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. tonight it's on hold, the vote on brett kavanaugh put off for a week while the fbi investigates. it was prompted by the actions of republican senator jeff flake who was prompted by the actions of the women who spoke out and spoke up about sexual assault. another wild and emotional day coming off such a heated day of testimony. tonight the democrats get the investigation they wanted. now mark judge can be questioned about what he knows, the republicans and kavanaugh are forced to wait, and president trump uses unusually measured words when talking about the woman who started it all, dr. christine blasey ford. all of it as the 11th hour gets underway on a busy