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distracting you, keeping you from covering robert muler? >> no. good afternoon. >> it is friday, december 7th. let's get smarter. >> the white house shake-up. president trump just revealing two big changes coming to his administration. a new nominee for attorney general and ambassador to the united nations. >> i want to confirm that bill barr will be nominated for the united states attorney general. >> i think it's a strong pick. he's experienced. i don't know very much about him but look. there's a cloud over whitaker. >> also want to inform you that heather nauert to the united nations. >> what is required is for someone to be an eye and an ear for the president at the u.n.. she will not be a nikki haley and separate herself from the president's particular opinion or position on issues. >> within the days ahead we expect to see john kelly defeat
the role as chief of staff at the white house. >> nick ayers won't say let's make a deal on congress. let's do infrastructure. we are going to do some big things for 2020. >> new court documents set to be unveiled on paul manafort and michael cohen revealing how much cohen is cooperating and just how much paul manafort lied. >> five fweetweets from the president on his favorite topics. >> they put out big news to can distract from other things. today is a big day for the mueller investigation. >> it is a combination of denial from the president's team, incompetence and fear from some people in the white house. >> jobs at 155,000 created for the month of november. expectations higher. >> we have been running at a 200,000 jobs a month pace for quite sometime. >> the uncertainties around u.s./china trade negotiations,
the arrest of the cfo of what w -- huawei. >> we begin with changes to the president's cabinet. the president named a replacement for the embattled attorney general sessions. >> i want to confirm that bill barr, one of the most respected jurists in the country, highly respected lawyer, former attorney general under the bush administration, he will be nominated for the united states attorney general. >> barr currently working as an attorney at a private law firm served as president george w. bush's attorney general in the early 1990s. i just mentioned this to ali. president trump has been anti-having anyone sort of old establishment who worked in the bush or bush administrations. >> look at that. been with the cia from '73 to
'77. what trump would refer to as the deep state. >> without a doubt. confirmed by voice vote in the senate including al gore, joe biden and john kerry. barr previously served in the justice department and the cia. and perhaps one reason why the president is so supportive, barr authored an op-ed backing the president's decision to fire former fbi director james comey, a firing some view as obstruction of justice and the new attorney general nominee does not pass judgment on the rodrigu russia investigation and a reason you might see him get bipartisan support. >> barr said that comb my acted inproperly in the press conferences about the clinton administration. these were in 2016. barr wrote other op-eds, one defending the firing of sally yates saying, quote, yates had no authority and no conceivable justification for directing the department's lawyers not to
advocate the president's position in court. >> and another in 2016 arguing that jim comey had no choice but to issue the october statement that he had reopened the investigation into hillary clinton. here's a bit of the president's nominee on political issues in his words. >> if someone wants to say there's no right to interrogation, i disagree with that as a moral matter. but i haven't heard the critics say that. now, if you can use coercion interrogation the question is where do you draw the line? the administration will not engage in torture but interrogation. and i'm not sure it's helpful for congress to figure out, you know, exactly what constitutes torture and what's coercion under the circumstances. i do not believe the right to privacy extends to abortion so i think that my views are consistent with the views that
have been taken by the department since 1983 which is that roe v. wade was wrongly decided and should be overruled. we have to aggressive steps to suppress the criminals of today who are wreaking havoc on the streets and we do need programs to prevent as best we can the youth of today from becoming the criminals of tomorrow. however, i think too many advocates of the root causes approach fails to appreciate the vital need for vigorous law enforcement. >> all right. let's talk about this guy, william barr. joining us is justice correspondent pete williams and counsel expert at the justice department hoi chen. william barr breezed through the confirmation in 1991, unanimously reported out of the
committee, confirmed by a voice vote, but a senate that was controlled by democrats about a month after that. is this going to be easy for him this time? >> no. i don't think so. because, of course, the number one question for anybody nominated to be attorney general can be summarized in one word. mueller. so he's going to be asked -- you know, he's clearly not going to have to -- i assume clearly, from everything we know, no reason to recuse himself from running the mueller investigation or overseeing it. he doesn't unlike jeff sessions, for example, he didn't campaign for the president. the president said today he only met bill barr just recently. but the question, number one question of the confirmation is, what is your attitude going to be? will you let mueller do his thing? what will you do when com comes out? in addition to the things any nominee would hear. >> what is your sense of him and is this guy up for getting a
second act? >> so interestingly i worked for him and mueller at the same time so robert mueller was the head of the criminal division when bill barr was the attorney general. >> do they know each other well? >> they had to be working together on a daily basis. so this -- they definitely have had a working relationship together. and my impression of bill barr is that, yes, he absolutely has very conservative credentials. he actually went to law school at night when he was at cia. >> wow. >> and got his law school degree while he was working at the cia. where he met bush sr. and in the department, though, i think he's respected, at least, you know, in my time there. my impression is this is a guy who's thoughtful. he has his conservative credentials. he has his agenda. and -- however, he is someone who actually will follow law and will follow facts. that's certainly been my impression of him and his interpretation.
>> this is a tricky one because anybody who has any history and track record and written about the russia investigation now has to be looked at in that light. how does the fact he has opinions on that affect him? >> well, i think, you know, it is hard to get someone who doesn't -- has not expressed an opinion. i think the key really is to watch what they do and watch their pattern of behavior in the past and this someone when's going to do what he's supposed to be doing in terms of actually executing his duties as the attorney general of the united states? >> right. >> i know you can't get inside of his head and this question i guess is a bit about ethics and independence. time and again we hear from people in the administration or left the administration that president trump is looking for extreme loyalty. it is the reason he didn't like jeff sessions or he turned on him. how much of an independent thinker is barr? i mean, i'm thinking in the last 24 hours the comments that we heard from rex tillerson, how he
would normally go head to head with the president and the president wouldn't have a basic understanding of what he was legally able to do. >> absolutely. just like christopher wray at the fabi, as well. >> i'm not sure he would take that job today. >> i think the reputation that barr has is one that's very respecteded, a respected, and so, i have no reason to think he would be pledging eternal loyalty to trump. now, what did he have to do to get the nomination? we don't know. >> hmm. >> were there promises made? >> that's interesting. >> pete, whoo are you hearing from the justice department, from people you talk to? >> some relief i think. remember, it's been 25 years since he was attorney general and there's one or two generations away from people who worked with him then and a stranger to many of the people of the justice department now. but i think people of the
justice department look for the attorney general to advocate for the institution rather than for the person that put them there. and i think there's a great deal of confidence that barr understands the institutional importance of maintaining the justice department's mission so i think there's -- i think there's some relief and some optimism there. the matt whitaker appointment as acting attorney general was clearly intended to be temporary. under the law whitaker will continue to serve as acting attorney general until a nominee is confirmed. and i would think that confirmation's not going to come until what? maybe february, early february. so matt whitaker will be there another couple of months but the reviews so far are good. >> pete, thanks very much. hui chen, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. president trump named state department spokesperson nauert to replace nikki haley at the united nations. here's the president earlier
today praising her. >> she's going to work with nikki haley to replace nikki at the united nations. she'll be ambassador to the united nations. she's very talented, very smart, very quick. and i think she's going to be respected by all. >> all right. so is heather nauert? as a journalism graduate, she worked at fox as an anchor and a correspondent between 2001 and 2017. she hosted the president's favorite show on the network, "fox & friends." she is the latest former fox news staffer hired by trump. >> back in april of 2017, president trump selected heather nauert to be the state department spokesperson and in charge of this year she was selected as the acting undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs at the state department, that position wrapped up in october. >> also nbc news confirmed
moments ago that the united nations ambassador position is being downgraded to a non cabinet level role and we should point out that this has been done before in prior administrations. >> there are more cabinet shake-ups on the way. new reports suggest john kelly, white house chief of staff, might be out the door. we have heard this a lot. >> a lot. >> but now they're saying it could be soon. possible replacement, chief of staff to the vice president nick ayers. >> look at who he is. let's look at john kelly first. he enlisted in the marine corps in 1970 and retired as a 4-star general. he was commander of the u.s. southern command, appointed the secretary of the department of homeland security in 2017. okay. that's the guy who might be leaving. the new guy, nick ayers is 36 years old. he ran sonny perdue's georgia gubernatorial campaign in 2016.
he was the chief strategist on pence's re-election campaign and executive director of the republican governors association. >> joining us is jeff bennett. okay. a stark contrast between the two. just based on that resume, nick ayers sounds more like a political strategist. >> reporter: yeah. you're right about that. it may seem like distant history but when john kelly joined the trump administration in 2017, he was welcomed as a moderating force to be the one to instill some discipline on this free-wheeling white house. he was the guy to rein in donald trump's worst impulses. of course, that never quite materialized in part because the conventional wisdom about john kelly has always been wrong. he was never a non partisan apolitical figure that people made him out to be and the tenure in the white house has been marked by conflict and controversy. so i'm told that the
relationship between donald trump and john kelly has deinvolv deinvold devolved to where they are not on speaking terms and waiting in the wings is nick ayers. he cut his teet as a political cons cons consultant in georgia politics and earned a lot of enemies and critics that comes with the territory in washington politics but here's the thing. he really found a way to ingratiate himself to president trump, partly by attending the regular lunches that vice president mike pence would have with the president. nick ayers was there and donald trump i'm told took a liking to him. "the wall street journal" has a report out with this key quote. the president is quoted as saying, stop calling john for anything. call nick. he's my guy. so at this point i'm told that president trump made clear -- yeah, wow. he's not going to push john kelly out but it's up to him to decide when to eye the exits but
remember that interview to chris wallace of fox news he said john kelly's going to want to move on. fairly clear. john kelly you think back joked, he said, god pun initialled him when he decided to move from the department of homeland security to working as president trump's chief of staff. john kelly said he was joking, right? >> hey -- >> being sarcastic. a little bit of truth in there. i was just thinking about that. what's one's existence like if your boss isn't nice to you, embarrasses you publicly and three weeks before christmas? you, too, might say -- >> moving on. >> i'll be home for christmas. >> jeff, given we are closer to the end of the administration than the beginning, how much of this making a political strategist the chief of staff has to do with the 2020 election? >> good question. >> reporter: yeah. for sure. certainly the white house is focused on being -- lowering my voice. i think the president will come out here. the president and the white house are focused on the 2020
re-election. got to make sure they're on a sure footing for that and they have to staff up and focus attention on dealing with the onslaught of potential investigations and subpoenas coming from the house. now, will be controlled by democrats come january. >> jeff, thank you very much for that. i think he was lowering his voice to sound more like you. >> you know what? you see, ali, i came to work. i'm dedicated to this show. it was a huge news day and ali velshi is mocking me. think about it. >> just voice your voice. >> i'll hit a karaoke bar after this and take it down with this voice. next, the new jobs report -- you go. >> the economy added 155,000 jobs. that's a good thing but can the economy keep it up in the middle of a trade war? look at that. we're also going to look at how this is affecting markets after an extraordinarily wild week. here's a look at the dow. right now. >> not even close to the most serious of the week. >> it's less than -- oh my
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act in the commercial. i promise it was excellent. >> i'm sorry i made fun of your voice. you made fun of my instagram tweet. >> you know why? he doesn't know how to -- >> it's not an instagram tweet, does he? >> he doesn't know how to use the instagram. we have to talk about the market. here's a live look right now. >> look, our relationship, started off well and deteriorated. the dow off 420 points. 1.7% and under normal circumstances we would be telling people to chill out and no big deal. 1.5% a day repeatedly or volatile like this, that's what gets us worried. >> not just that. this week we are starting to see calls from banks. first time in almost ten years, jpmorgan said might be the first time to shift to cash. bank of america said the bull market could be winding down. these are signals we haven't seen before. >> talk about what today's news was. 155,000 net new jobs added to the economy in november. that's not bad but it does mean
that hiring has slowed. we have for 2018 have had an average well above 200,000. the unemployment rate and i say doesn't tell you much of the story, i have said this for 25 years. does remain low at 3.7% but it's not telling you the full story. >> reports are typically perceived as a measure of the economy on a whole and what we're seeing is steady growth but that steady growth is slowing. joining us live, john harwood. i want to stay on that for a moment because remember the president was saying gdp 4%, 5%, 6%. ceos talking about how big it would be but if you look at corporate america, right? if you look at public companies, only way they really start to perform is because of global growth and if we are seeing a real slowdown and this is a year, a year after the tax cuts and those tax cuts line the pockets of corporate america, those corporations went out, bought back stock which pumps up
the market, what's your take, john, on where we are now? >> first of all, steph, i do think ali needs to show more contrition than so far but i'll leave that out there for you guys. look, stephanie. we have a slowing economy. we have a tax cut that has goosed the economy during 2018 but the stimulus is winding down. and it will wind down in 2019. there is no sign yet of a lasting, durable lift in the trajectory of the economy. and what we're seeing with the uncertainty surrounding trade policy and these gyrations within the market we are starting to see growth forecasts even for the fourth quarter get knocked down. the atlanta fed's gone from 2.0 in the last few weeks and it appears that many mainstream forkers saying we won't get 3% growth which is what president trump said, well, obama can't do
3%. i'll do 3% or more than 3%. looks like 2.9, slowing to 2.7 next year and some people, significant number of forecasters, in fact, two thirds of the ones surveyed by the national association for business economics, who say we will be in recession in 2020 at some point. that is a very dangerous situation, not only for the economy but for president trump if he chooses to seek re-election. >> if you didn't get the 3% plus growth in a mature economy that's one thing. but after that massive tax cut to corporations which nobody campaigned on and nobody asked for, and the affect that's going to have on the deficit and debt, to not get that growth, that's the problem. because interest rates are going up. did debt will cost us more and we don't all have something to show for it except rising stock prices going to shareholders. >> we are in the ninth year of this recovery and expected that job growth will slow down and perfectly fine. but the question is, are we
taking risks in our economy and compounding them with what's going on in trade and got markets so jittery. they're not sure what will happen next. they got burned placing faith in the president's tweets of meeting with president xi of china than was justified and now, you know, yesterday the federal reserve sort of calmed the situation late in the day by saying they were going to take a wait and see attitude after december but how you get that right, how you calibrate returning to neutral in terms of monetary policy, that is not an easy thing and they could get it wrong or right. >> sure. >> give us a history lesson. if the economy does continue to slow, given what's happened with the deficit, given the fact we didn't get a middle class tax cut and we ability getting it any time soon and the president cannot blame that on democrats voting it down, he hasn't shown us anything, from a historical
perspective, what happens to an administration, a president if they are in office as we slip into a slower economy or a recession? because we have to remember president trump's base has not been served in this economic win and the people at the top, he's added but they'll quickly walk away if the markets aren't in their favor. >> typically the way the interaction between politics and the economy, the business cycle, works out is there are recessions that tend to be earlier in a president's term so ragan, george w. bush, richard nixon all had early recessions but then by the time they were running for re-election the economy was growing again. it's very rare for somebody to be in an active recession while they're seeking a second term. jimmy carter tried it in 1980. and he got hammered. he lost 44 states. obviously, the economy was not the only thing going on then. but that didn't help. and even if you're -- the economy's growing, the overhang,
the aftermath of recession as george h.w. bush found out in 1992, he had a strong growing economy in 1992 but the psychology had been set by the '91 recession so if donald trump defines -- has the last two years of his term defined by economic downturn when he starts with only 40% approval which means he's got to cushion to give away, he's got big problems. even if you set aside from bob mueller is doing and we are waiting for that today. >> john's got a great piece on what it looks like to run in an election as a president in a recession. not good as he said for carter, and george h.w. bush and other things that history smiled on them for doing and a hard thing to do. john, great to see you. thank you, my friend. >> you bet. >> a lot of president trump supporters, they listen to him. i'm the business guy, president. >> economy's great. >> there's people that don't have expertise in investing and they believe it when the president says that.
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welcome back to our daily lounge act of "velshi & ruhle." >> we have been -- we have been like ships crossing in the night. >> now it's -- >> people tweet like we're not getting along. it is just -- we're good. the schedule's busy. we love being together. >> like. >> we loved it before she criticized my instagram twitter thing. >> and with my voice and it says i'm committed to reporting the news to you. >> it says i need a lozenge. buckle up. the president apparently woke up in a mood. >> i thought it's lozenger. what do i know?
>> leaking liar james comey, the ever-present angry democrats and a mention of attorney general rod rosenstein and they're coming fast and furious because we are in the hours ahead of a big document dump. three big documents expected to be filed in federal court later today and likely released to the public. >> special counsel will be filing documents on paul manafort and former personal attorney michael cohen by 5:00 p.m. eastern today. the southern district of new york will also be filing under that deadline. right now, former fbi director james comey is on capitol hill testifying before a house panel. this one is behind closed doors. the up dates saying they have learned new information and cannot say what. the transcript of this hearing is expected to be released in 24 hours. can i just say one thing to you?
when the president tweets that early in the morning, we know, remember, that schedule last summer. he likes the resting hours and most likely tweeting in bed and thinking about it. we have to wake up so early for our jobs. wouldn't you like to up, tweet your mind. take a look at robert mueller's schedule. the schedule in mueller's court findings and why the president may have gotten up early and so upset about this. michael cohen, a sentencing memo due today on the former personal attorney and what he called the fixer and we could learn more about what the president directed him to do, possibly including crimes that have gone uncharged. we could learn about entirely new things. according to cohen's attorney, sentencing memo, cohen is assisting in four different investigations into the president and his businesses. run by the special counsel, the u.s. attorney in manhattan, the new york attorney general, that's the state, and the new york department of taxation and
finance. four different investigations. this guy's helping with. some of them outside of the reach of the president and his ability to pardon people. remember that. what we learned from him today depends on his cooperation and the special counsel's redactions. we may not get all that information. then there is this guy, you know him. paul manafort. we could learn about his crimes and lies that the prosecutors have accused him of after he struck and then allegedly breached a cooperation agreement with the government. manafort could prove one of the clearest links between the trump campaign and vladimir putin's orbit. in the time working for trump he reportedly offered a russian oligarch tied to vladimir putin as nearly all of them are private briefings on the campaign as well as continuing his alleged financial crimes. and then there's reporting that the special counsel is interested in this man, someone you may not have heard of before. ted malloch, an informal adviser
or was to the trump campaign. they're looking into connections of rt of russian tv. rt shares a close relationship with wikileaks and it's the same organization that paid michael flynn more than $30,000 to deliver a speech in moscow in 2015. and an event in which he was seated at the same table as vladimir putin. there's flynn. there's putin. just months before joining the trump campaign. we're going to be watching this all hour and all day and we're going to bring you any news on these three reports. >> i have to tell you every single time i see that picture and we have seen it dozens of times now, jill stein is also at the table. all of this just speaks to how wacky, weird and bizarre so much of this is. >> or just the diversity vladimir putin likes to have at the dinner tables. >> nope. not at all. next, global carbon emissions. >> this is serious. >> jumped this year and some
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higher oil consumption up from 94 million barrels a day at the end of 2014. take a look at what happened to the oil consumption. even though the cars get more efficient, that's what ends up happening so we have a problem with the emissions that are causing global warming unless you're one of the people that doesn't believe this. i'm excited to introduce the next guest but i won't because ali is going to introduce our next guest because ali's excited about his friend joining our family. >> a brand new member of the family, jacob ward, hearing from him on a range of topics. that is guy that understands a lot of the complicated issues and a way to explain it to us. >> you have set the bar so high. >> i'm quite comfortable -- >> thank you so much. >> i'm quite comfortable in doing so. we talk about this topic a lot but what's the thing that most people have to understand about
the role that humanity has in climate change. >> i think that the greatest sort of cognitive challenge we have in handling this is that it is something that is far off and happening at scale. and those are two things we know, right? human beings don't do very well. we are good at, you know -- >> small things happening now. >> snakes, fire. whatever the thing is. we have to in this case imagine an abstract threat that's, you know, half a century off although it's closer and closer all the time as we learn here and as a result, you know, we have to understand that each little tiny thing that each of us is doing in addition to supporting our life is making it worse. >> knowing that we are living in a world of short termism, how do you get people to understand how big it is, the threat it is, and what they can do? >> yeah. you know, so i'm so conflicted on this issue because on the one hand it's good news in a sense that we can feel it in our lives now. that we're beginning to see
floods and wildfires and all sorts of things that are directly being produced by the forces at work here in the changing climate and yet at the same time scientists have said by the time we tangibly feel it in our lives it's kind of too late and there's a real sort of mixed blessing here in the fact of experiencing it day-to-day now. >> we have talked about the group of people saying the science isn't uniform on this. if i go to a mechanic, i don't go to seven f. the brakes need fixing, i don't want to have them fail. fix them. maybe earlier than i should have. why do we have -- >> if you go to three different doctors, they're not going to give you the exact same diagnosis. >> that is it. right? >> wow. you get that? >> you're dead on. >> he never says i do a good job. he does. >> no. you know, for me i think that the difficulty is, you know, people don't understand that scientists -- you will never get five scientists in a room who 100% agree on a different.
that's the difference of politics and science. politicians are rewarding for proclamations. scientists all they ever do is build consensus slowly and carefully over time. you iterate and replicate findings and do it such that you slowly approach that 100% kind of certainty and never really get there. that's the point of sign tiss a -- scientists. so when you get report after report, like we saw this week, another report reinforcing the same thing we have been hearing year after year, you should know you'll never hear people say it's an absolute certainty but that we are as close now to scientific certainty as we will ever get. >> doesn't prompt you to do something. i don't know what people get for it. you see your kids every day and say you don't want them living in a world that suffers from those. i don't know what the win is from denying it. >> here's the thing i would say. everybody needs to be watching out for is back in the '50s, the
cigarette industry invented the industry of doubt. they decided we can't blow apart the actual findings on cigarettes and cancer but we can inject doubt into it. are we sure about this? are we sure about it? exploits a loophole in science and always a little bit of doubt. >> there's doubt an people don't want to change the lifestyle. that's all the excuse they need to do so. >> you have the same thinkers, the same institutes that created that doubt industry to fight on behalf of the cigarette industry and the same people pivoted to climate change and global warming and they're injecting the same playbook and hearing it at the highest levels of government and don't let it shake your faith is the wrong word but the conviction that scientists have agreed on this. >> ali, the argument, don't people care about the next generation? how come every time people reach a certain age or so often they say cut school budgets and not
care about entitlement reform. i want what serves me at that moment. >> jacob, welcome. >> thank you. >> look forward to many similar conversations. >> so nice to be here. all right. next, obamacare enrollment is down because the trump administration pulled the money for marketing. but what happens when millions of americans are uninsured? >> i don't want to have to ask it. i don't want to know the answer. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." ♪ oh, look... another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it's clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. one week? that definitely works! rapid wrinkle repair®. and for dark spots, rapid tone repair. neutrogena®. see what's possible.
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." one week from tomorrow the window closes for anyone who wants to sign up for obama care coverage in 2019. >> unless there's a rush to the federal website, the future of universal health care is looking sha shaky. enrollment is down 11% over this time last year. why the drop? there's no individual mandate this year. there's no tax penalty that prompts people the sign up. in some cases there are cheaper outside plans that don't offer as much but much cheaper. in some states medicaid expansion may be the reason. unemployment is down so more people have insurance through
their jobs. >> there's another explanation. a massive cut in obama care advertising. we saw this last year. shortening the period, shrinking down the ad space. said it spent $110 million on 2017. this year it slashed the budget to just $10 million. a cut of 90%. >> i think mr. pillow spends more money on advertising. andy, you're a one person marketing effort for getting people who need obama care to sign up. >> if you needed obama care, why do you need advertising? wouldn't you say i need to get my family covered next year? >> that's a great question. one of the things we know is people want to be insured. we learned this over the last few years is that people need a bit of help. it's a bit scary for them.
they are not always aware. you're exactly right in what you said. the trump administration's virtual stop of marketing is having a big impact. how do we know this? in the 12 states that control their own marketing budgets, 11 of the 12 have seen increases in enrollment. in the 38 states controlled by the trump administration, that's where we have seen the reduction. we need to get the word out that this is their last chance, the next week we have. >> people have doubts about it. it's a little complicated. it's not the simplest thing in world. your eligibility will be determined if you go to it. >> sure, it scares people. what we have learned is this is a really simple process. go to the site. doesn't matter if you've had a pre-existing condition or any illnesses in your family. none of that matters. you put in your income and you're told what your choices are and how much you'd have to
pay. >> let me play devil's add vvoc, spend that $100 million towards taking care of people. do we really need to spend that kind of money when it's to serve the american people? >> it's a good question. actually not taxpayer money. this is money that is paid to the government in the form of user fees by insurance companies for this expressed purpose. the only reason not to spend it is not to save money, it's because you don't want the aca to work. the reason the users fees are meant to do this is so more young people can become aware. >> that makes sense.
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the attack of pearl harbor we recognize the bravery of u.s. navy seaman doris miller. he enlisted when he was 19 years old. the navy did not allow african-americans to take combat roles so he became a mess attendant. miller was serving on the uss west virginia stationed at pearl harbor. he had no weapons training but when the japanese attacked he snapped into action. he manned the machine gun until he was ordered to abandon ship. he swam through hundreds of feet of oil and water to pull others to safety. his bravery saved countless lives. >> in 1942 he was awarred the navy cross making him the first african-american to sever there award. in 1944 miller was fighting w i
world war ii when he was killed. he was only 24 years old. >> today we honor doris miller and all the heroes of pearl harb harbor. that's it for us. thank you for watching. i'll be back at 3:00 p.m. eastern. >> i'll be performing my rendition of all of stevie nix's greatest hits at a karaoke lounge. >> quite a voice. >> i'm so glad you glad you said that. have a great weekend. >> see you in an hour. good afternoon. we are just three hours away from robert mueller's filing deadline. the michael cohen sentencing memo which could give us some idea of what he had to tell investigators over 70 hours of