tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC June 28, 2019 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
reasons for this. what they are really telling you is they just won't fight for it. health care is a basic human right and i will fight for basic human rights. >> senator elizabeth warren saying you know, you can say me saying i'm for medicare for all and that's a liability for me, let me explain to you why i'm for it and let me bring the house down. anyway, i know this is an unpopular take and everybody wants theirs to be winners and losers and people suffered for. >> 'tis pagz, but every one had something to bank on. not all will qualify. they all need to build on something. it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> my favorite post debate moment last night. when we got you on the air in our coverage and brian asked you
how did you think it went? what i thought i was watching is somebody asking a boxerar r after 15 rounds how you think it went. the person in that stadium who knows the least about how it went is the boxer. they are just in too close. >> exactly. i was like oh, sure. i can talk about that. just give me a second and three beers. i had no ability to comment on what i had just been through. >> i was dying to see what it was like for you once you could digest it. once you could put it together like this. i was absolutely certain that where you were sitting last nit in realtime was the worst place to be. to try to figure that out. >> going back to the transcript to pull these clips, i remember awful these things, but to confirm my shaky memories about
what was happening. the reason i wanted to go through it this way is the thing that resonated, i feel like i learned something about every candidate and i did get to hear them all in their own words talking about the things they most wanted to talk about and every one had at least one good moment. that's sort of incredible for four candidates over four hours. everyone had something to build on and bank on and use to get into the next debate. i definitely didn't expect that. i certainly expected some people to washout or just be basically completely upset about the process at this point, but everybody had a moment. at least one. >> my favorite tweet that i have seen that i hope we can print it to use in this hour was someone in my twitter feed saying that he went into the debates not so sure. he came out of it thinking he really likes senator warren and senator harris. those are his two favorites and
really grateful to bernie sanders for pushing the agenda in the direction it has gone in the last four years. what i found interesting is he came out with two favorites. that i think is a very common reaction that i'm getting from a bunch of people. they decided that they weren't going to have to pick one person. they have come out with two or a handful. it's not the same ones they went in with. >> and ones they were looking for to see campaign in future events and looking forward to seeing them side by side at future debates. they want to see how they interact and how they contend. democrats have now sized up the field. the field is now going to compete with itself for a long time and i think everybody on the stage did something to make their own case for why they should be in that competition. i don't feel like this is a kid gloves thing or they are all being nice to each other. that's not happening. they are starting to fight with each other, but all showing their stripes.
i mean, i'm exhausted and totally fried, but i think this is an exciting part of the primary. >> great job, rachel. you have earned your weekend. >> thank you. >> there she goes. the nap starts now. president trump lost a big case in the supreme court yesterday when the court denied the trump administration the right to include a question about citizenship in the census. they have to start printing next year's census next week. that's the normal lead time. six months. president trump is now asking trump administration lawyers if he can delay the census. something that has never occurred in the history of the country. neal katyal who has argued several cases before the united states supreme court has an answer for president trump tonight and will give us that answer at the end of this hour. the president spent the day in japan at the g-20 summit where he disgraced himself once again with vladimir putin and warmly welcomed the murderous dictator
of saudi arabia and sent one of the love tweets to the murderous dictator of north korea. wendy sherman will join us with her analysis of what appears to be donald trump's new public invitation for vladimir putin to please interfere in our election again and try to help donald trump win the electoral college again. we begin tonight with the debates. now, debate winners do not necessarily win elections. let's just start with that. just ask john kerry who won every debate against donald trump and hillary clinton. keep that in mind as we discuss who won or performed the best in the two nights of democratic presidential debates right here on msnbc. we will get the most important verdict on that question next week when polling starts to come out that will show which candidates gained support or
which candidates lost support as a result of the debates and it is entirely possible that there won't be any immediate movement in the polls because of the debates. the general consensus among media observers and presidential campaign veterans tonight is senator elizabeth warren outscored her opponents on night one and kamala harris on night two. count me among those who are not even slightly surprised by both of those outcomes. i have been watching elizabeth warren closely since she began her career as a politician, running for senate in massachusetts. i have been watching kamala harris demonstrate her skills since she was the district attorney of san francisco. i was introduced to her by a california friend who told me i want you to meet the first black woman president. as i said on this program at the time, i believed kamala harris was on the presidential track as soon as i saw her campaigning
state-wide in california for attorney general nine years ago. as soon as barbara boxer announced she would not run for reelection, i was sure kamala harris would run and win it, which she did. when donald trump won the electoral college on the same night that kamala harris was elected to the senate, i was certain kamala harris would run to take that presidency away from donald trump. to do that, senator harris and the rest of the democrats now know they have to take the democratic nomination away from joe biden. last night, kamala harris launched the most forceful challenge to joe biden on the issue of race. the debate turned in that direction after mayor pete buttigieg explained how he handled the shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer in south bend, indiana with others interrupt offing their way in.
kamala harris said as the only black person on the stage, i would like to speak to the issue of race, and then this happened. >> growing up my sister and i had to deal with the neighbor who told us her parents couldn't play with us because we were black. i will say in this campaign, we have also heard and i'm going to direct this at vice president biden. i do not believe you are a racist. and i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground, but i also believe and it is personal and it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose
bussing. there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bussed to school every day. and that little girl was me. >> senator harris got thunderous applause when she finished her comments and then, joe biden responded. >> it's a mischaracterization of my position across the board. i did not praise racists. that is not true. number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights, i'm happy to do that. i was a public defender. i didn't become a prosecutor. i left a good law firm to be a public defender when in fact my city was in flame because of the assassination of dr. king. as the vice president of the united states, i work with a man who in fact we work very hard to
see to it we dealt with these issues in a major, major way. the bottom line here is, look, everything i have done in my career, i ran because of civil rights and i continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights and the civil rights include not just african-americans and the lgbt community. >> vice president biden, do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in america then? do you agree? >> i did not oppose bussing in america. what i opposed is bussing ordered by the department of education. that's what i opposed. >> there is a failure of states to integrate public schools in america. i was part of the second class to integrate berkeley, california public schools almost two decades after brown v board of education. >> because your city council made that decision. >> that's where the federal government must step in.
>> the morning after, gale king asked kamala harris about that exchange. >> senator harris, we just heard ed o'keefe said you are o accused of delivering a low blow. >> it was about speak truth. as i said many times, i have a great deal of respect for joe biden. he served our country over many years in a noble way. he and i disagree on that. it is a debate. this is a campaign where we should be discussing issues and there will be contrast. >> joe biden was in chicago speaking to jesse jack and the rainbow push coalition and he began with what everybody saw. >> before i start, i would like to say something about the debate we had last night. i heard and i listened to and i respect senator harris. but you know, we all know that
30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed commit ed to civil rights. i want to be absolutely clear about my record and position including bussing. i never, never never ever opposed voluntary bussing. as a program that senator harris participated in and made a difference in, i did support federal action to address root causes in our schools and communities including taking on the banks and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. i have always been in favor of overcoming state initiated segregation. i cast a vote in 1974 against the gurney amendment that banned the right of the federal courts to be able to use bussing as a remedy. >> leading off the discussion, president of the center for american progress and columnist
for the daily beast and president and ceo of voter latino and msnbc contributor. as the only one who worked on a presidential campaign working on hillary clinton's last campaign, i want to get your reaction to the exchange. >> i did debate prep for hillary clinton in her primaries 12 years ago. i thought senator harris had a surgical strike. it was obviously something she prepared for and she delivered very well. she used her personal story and o incredibly effectively. i was surprised the vice president wasn't better prepared given this was a story over a week ago. in the exchange yesterday, he responded today and i do think most people think he has a record on civil rights and he will have to articulate that case as the debate goes on, but i thought kamala harris was
incredibly effective. she has been making the case that she can prosecute trump. yesterday she demonstrated that she can prosecute trump. >> listen to what joe biden said today about what he and the obama administration did in areas of concern. the kind of thing you would have expected him to try to say last night. he was talking about with the differently justice did during their time. let's listen to this. >> our department of justice investigated abuse, including ferguson. the obama-biden commuted more sentences than the 13 previous presidents combined. we passed the support -- >> i think we can now see that the prepared speech is going to be joe biden's strength in this campaign and who knows what his future is in the debate format. >> it was interesting. the debate was interesting because he didn't bring up as
much energy as i expected and he seemed very defensive. let's be clear. joe biden had incredible legacy in the american space, but the challenge here and what we saw with kamala harris last night is she was able to really demonstrate and crystallize what the segregation of policies impacted. it wasn't something in the past, but present in our future and she was part of that presence. she was able to demonstrate even the democratic party is at odds when it comes to seeking justice in the face of compromise and one of the reason yes we have to figure out how to put the racist past to bed and have the conversations. the vice president was not prepared. because he and her had a close relationship working relationship and friendship, he was surprised she was able to come out with it and in a strategic matter, but she stood firm and said i can have a conversation and make sure trump
is put on notice. >> listen to what joe biden said. barack obama's adopted hometown about working with president obama. >> i say to chicagoans and everyone, my president gets much too little credit for all he did. he was one of the great presidents of the united states of america. tired of hearing about what he didn't do. here's what he did. everything that landed on his desk, i watched him and i sat with him every single morning and watched him for hundreds of hours. i want to tell you, chicago, you had a great, great man out here and he's still a great man and still has a lot to offer. >> jonathan, there he was in your hometown of chicago today. is that the best biden has in this subject area of stressing that association with barack
obama? >> it certainly helps. barack obama is hugely popular in the democratic party and it helps protect his base among african-american voters which is significant. that's what harris is trying to erode and booker was trying to erode by bringing this up. the question that democrats have to ask is what is the damage that could be done in beating trump if some of these disputes move from issues to personal character questions. if you are saying i don't believe you are a racist, you are about to unload a critique that said i think you kind of were a little bit in this way. what is the effect of this on the nominee if biden were to become the nominee and the effect on the debates if they move in this more personal direction? also, it has the effect of changing the way we understand
issues. there is a reason that court ordered bussing hasn't been used in this country in more than 40 years. in any significant way. it was a failure and both black and white parents didn't like it. they liked the local bussing that harris benefitted from, voluntary bussing, but court ordered forced bussing turned all of education into a big toxic racial issue and people got tired of that. people had have to ask ourselves, do we want to go back to saying that's a good remedy for the country? i don't think so and i don't think that's what sbb intends. this was being used as a symbolic issue. >> as soon as i heard kamala harris say the word bussing, i knew where she was going. in preparation for the town hall, i read her book. this goes to debate prep for the biden team. all they had to do was get to
page 11 to know this was coming. here is the passage on page 11 of kamala harris's book. i would walk to the corner and get on the bus to thousand oaks elementary school. i only learned later that we were part of a national experiment of desegregation from the flat lands and wealthier white children from the berkeley hills bussed in the other. at the time all i knew was that the big yellow bus was the way i got to school. looking at the photo of my first grade class reminds me of how wonderful it was to come from such a diverse environment. we were a varietied bunch. some were in public housing and some the children of professors. i remember varied cultural holidays and learning to count to 10 in several languages. parents volunteering in the classroom to lead science and arts projects with the kids. it goes on.
that is the major success story in the history of bussing. >> it is and i wanted to respond to jonathan. i wor and i think a lot of democrats worry about whether these debates become too personal and character-based. it seemed like some of the changes were more about character than policy. this is an area in which people are also trying to see who can go toe to toe with donald trump who is going to attack and attack dirty in many different ways. i don't dispute and i don't think most dispute that he has a strong record on civil rights issues, particularly in the last decade and a lot of people in
the african-american community remember and know vividly how he worked side by side with barack obama. the question for the vice president is that he has to demonstrate that people believe he is the best person to go up against trump and a lot of people believe that. that's why he has been leading in the polls and he has to demonstrate that in debate after debate. that's the challenge for him. i don't think this is really about civil rights issues, but it was kamala demonstrating she is tough enough to take on trump and the vice president had some. barack obama departmeidn't do w his first debates, but he won the primary after that. the vice president has a lot of opportunity. >> we got my favorite tweet of the day, greg young. it's not about the candidates,
but the concept. i followed it all pretty closely and i'm a warren fan and grateful to sanders for waking people up and 40 years of consistency, but harris now has my support, too. it's good to have choices and debate over policy along with strong candidates. that's the reaction that the party is hoping voters have to these debates. >> we had 23 million people in the first night and 16 million last night. americans are tuning in early. this is incredibly early. they are curious. they recognize there is something off with this country. it's not enough to go after donald trump. you have to come in and think boldly. the reason folks voted for him is the fact that we have 20 people on stage debating ideas and giving people the information they need that, sets them apart and the pathway to the future. that's what americans are
looking for. they are looking forward to who can deliver on the promise and go toe to toe with donald trump and assassination and on policy, thinking big and broadly and boldly. >> thank you for starting us off tonight. appreciate it. later in the hour, president trump laughed it up with vladimir putin today and laughed about russia attacking the american elections. and later in this hour, the supreme court ruled against the president on the census question and now the president is looking for ways to violate the constitutional mandate to hold a census next year. (burke) at farmers insurance, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a parking splat. fly-by ballooning. (man) don't...go...down...oh, no! aaaaaaahhhhhhhh! (burke) rooftop parking. (burke) and even a hit and drone.
(driver) relax, it's just a bug. that's not a bug, that's not a bug! (burke) and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced. we got the idea that if we took two dimensional patient imaging and put it in holographic displays, we could dissect around the tumor so we can safely remove it. when we first started, we felt like this might just not be possible but verizon 5g ultra wideband will give us the ability to do this. ♪
mno kidding.rd. but moving your internet and tv? that's easy. easy?! easy? easy. because now xfinity lets you transfer your service online in just about a minute with a few simple steps. really? really. that was easy. yup. plus, with two-hour appointment windows, it's all on your schedule. awesome. now all you have to do is move...that thing.
[ sigh ] introducing an easier way to move with xfinity. it's just another way we're working to make your life simple, easy, awesome. go to xfinity.com/moving to get started. . i will ensure that this microphone that the president of the united states holds in her hand is used in a way that is about reflecting the values of our country and not about locking children up, sprath them from their parents and i have to say that we have to think about this issue in terms of real people. a mother who pays a coyote to transport her child through their country of origin and through the entire country of mexico facing unknown peril to come here, why would that mother do that? i will tell you. because she has decided for that
child to remain where they are is worse. but what does donald trump do? he said go back to where you came from. that is not reflective of our america and our values and it's get to end. >> we invited representatives of the biden campaign and the harris campaign and the biden campaign could not provide us with a representative, but we do have a representative of the harris campaign. j.a moore is a south carolina state representative. thank you very much for joining us, representative moore. i want to get your reaction to what you saw and what you saw the vice president doing in the debate last night. did you come away with the feeling that any wandidate on that stage would not be able to fully endorse and support any other candidate on that stage who might win the combination? >> lawrence, i want to thank you
so much for having me. i had the privilege of hosting a watch party in the barbershop in my district in goose creek, south carolina. it was so nice to have such a great group of people watching the debate. we were so encouraged and excited to hear senator harris just really show that she is the only person that was on the debate stage both nights that can defeat donald trump. i think this is important to show contrast and that's what we saw last night. i believe that vice president biden and bernie sanders and everyone else that was on the debate stage last night will have no problem endorsing senator harris when she is the nominee. >> senator harris' own campaigns, joe biden has been helpful in the past. she never voiced any criticism
about joe biden before the nature of last night before last night. >> um, that may be correct, but i can't speak for senator harris, but what i will say is that the vice president's comments about known segregationist senators which is out of step and out of touch with the american people. that's the days of the past. it reminds me a lot of former senator that we had here, strom thurm thurman. this was a pivotal point in the civil rights movement. that dealt directly with bus sig african-american students. that was the predecessor to brown versus board of education. >> going forward, do you think this issue is settled or do you expect senator harris to continue to be in her terms in effect prosecuting this.
>> here's what i believe. senator harris proved last night that she is the only candidate that can prosecute a case against trump. she mentioned earlier when she first announced she was running for president that she will speak truth to power. that's what we saw last night. what i believe that senator harris would do moving forward is what she has already done. let our voices drive her agenda. she is doing a fantastic job of that. >> thank you very much for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you so much, lawrence. thank you. >> president trump joked with vladimir putin about what they called fake news. he also shared a friendly moment or more with the saudi arabian murderous dictator. that's coming up. highway safety
rates vehicles for safety, and some reach a level of top safety pick. but only a select few of the very safest vehicles are awarded a top safety pick plus. the highest level of safety possible. how many 2019 top safety pick plus-winning vehicles does your brand have? one. two. how about eight? subaru has more 2019 top safety pick plus awards than honda and toyota brands combined. there's safe, and then there's subaru safe. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today.
tonight president trump relied to what he calls his beautiful letters from north korea's dictator with a tweet. after some very important meetings including president xi of china, i will be leaving japan for south korea and if chairman kim sees this, i will meet him at the border just to shake his hand and say hello. the president's public affection for foreign leaders clearly seems to depend entirely on how murderous they are. he used the word love to
describe his relationship with the most murderous dictator on earth, kim jong un, who starves people to death in north korea and tortures people to death and tortured 22-year-old otto wa warmbier to the point that his life could not be saved when he was allowed to return to his parents in the united states. and knowing that the saudi crown prince, mohammad bin salman ordered the dismemberment of jamal khashoggi, he called him a friend of mine. then vladimir putin, the former kgb agent turned president of russia who is suspect number one in the order of several journalists and others inside and outside of russia. today donald trump joked around with vladimir putin publicly and obviously had no intention of threatening vladimir putin about
interfering in our next election. >> will you tell russia not to meddle in the 2020 election. >> don't meddle in the election. >> putin's translator correctly translated to that to please meddle in the election and please help me win. you have a right to believe that donald trump believes he cannot win the electoral college without the help that he got from russia last time. british prime minister teresa may told vladimir putin what a real president of the united states would have told putin. prime minister may told him to stop russia's irresponsible and destabilizing activity that threatening the uk and allies, including hostile interventions in other countries and disinformation and cyber attacks and told putin his country's use of the deadly nerve agent on
british soil was a truly despicable act. today in an interview with john meachem said it makes donald trump an illegitimate president. >> no doubt the russians interfere and though not yet quantified, it showed that trump didn't win the election in 2016. he lost the election and he was put into office because the russians interfered. on his behalf. >> do you believe president trump is an illegitimate president? >> based on what i said, which i can't retract -- >> former under secretary of state wendy sherman has analysis of donald trump's admiration for murderous dictators. s admiratior murderous dictators.
for people 50 and older colat average risk.ing honey have you seen my glasses? i've always had a knack for finding things... colon cancer, to be exact. and i find it noninvasively... no need for time off or special prep. it all starts here... you collect your sample, and cologuard uses the dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers. you can always count on me to know where to look. oh, i found them! i can do this test now! ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. covered by medicare and most major insurers.
what do all these people have in common, limu?oug [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. they're completely different people, that's why they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual. they'll only pay for what they need! [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. you've done it again, limu. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ what would i say to somebody living with hiv? ♪ keep being you. keep loving. keep aspiring. keep striving. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for hiv in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights hiv with three different medicines
to help you get to undetectable. that means the amount of virus is so low it can't be measured in lab tests. so keep pushing. keep creating. and keep pouring your soul into everything you do. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a build-up of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're hiv-positive, keep loving who you are, inside and out. ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. ♪ but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios.
fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments.
clearly better money management. here is president trump today joking with the man who is suspected of murdering reporters about how much both of them hate the news media. [inaudible]
. >> joining our discussion is wendy sherman, undersecretary of state from the obama administration and contributor. investor sherman, i want to get your reaction to what we just saw. there is a smiling and happy vladimir putin joke being how much he hates the news media along with donald trump. >> on a day, lawrence, when five wonderful journalists lost their lives at the capital gazette in annapolis, on this day a year ago, it just reminds us how vladimir putin sees the world and it's his world and anybody who stands in the way has to get out of the way and that donald trump aligns himself with these autocrats, with these dictators and it's really about his being a bully. someone who was quite weak and quite insecure and he thinks that if he struts around and
quite frankly sexually assaults women and struts around as a leader that he is not and in fact speaks with a strong voice and a very weak stick that somehow he is going to get the job done. it is really disgraceful tow have someone like this as the president of the united states. >> he said a very strange thing for a president to say today about kim jong un. of course everything he said is a strange thing to say as a president, but one thing in particular he was talking about this tweet he put out saying he is hoping to see him when he goes to south korea if he goes up to the border, they can shake hands at the dmz. i don't know where he is. he may not be in north korea. is it possible that kim jong un would leave north korea and the president of the united states would not know about that?
>> it would be unlikely for him not to know about that. we do have some means to know about his movements and not totally, but yes, the whole statement was bizarre and that point in particular. the president, i thought, also in those comments said this is really a border that they have at the dmz. it made me think back to 1987 when president reagan who was not a president who i voted for in that election went to berlin and said mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. ronald reagan understood that freedom and human rights and multiculturalism were part and parcel of who we were. vladimir putin gave an interview to the financial times before the g-20 saying that in fact that western liberalism was obsolete and the populist right was the way to go. the president of the united
states on the other end of this day is saying the demilitarized zone, the most heavily fortified with thousands of land mines is exactly the kind of border he was saying he would like to have with mexico. >> vladimir putin also said to the financial times that russia has been accused and strange as it may seem, it is still being accused despite the mueller report of mythical interference in the u.s. election. there is vladimir putin, apparently saying the mueller report acquits russia. when the mueller report in fact indicts 25 russians, all of them working for vladimir putin in their interference mission. >> well, between vladimir putin's statements and donald trump's joking around, he basically is begging putin to do it again. i think that you are raising up
prime minister may and her drawing a line with vladimir putin is what the president absolutely should be doing if he's really the president of the united states because no one should interfere with our elections and putin wouldn't want us interfering in his. clearly we don't because he does it all by himself and wins with 98% of the vote every single time. >> wendy sherman, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and when we come back, president trump lost a big one in the supreme court over the census. neal katyal will join us. census neal katyal will join us so chantix can help you quit slow turkey.rkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking,
with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. stop chantix and get help right away if you have changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions, seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking, or life-threatening allergic and skin reactions. decrease alcohol use. use caution driving or operating machinery. tell your doctor if you've had mental health problems. the most common side effect is nausea. quit smoking slow turkey. talk to your doctor about chantix. pleasson. your heart's notthing strong enough. my heart is as strong as any. uncover your family history, from over 10 billion historical records. get started for free at ancestry.com
safe drivers shouldnt have to pay as much for insurance... as not safe drivers! that's why esurance has drivesense.® the safer you drive, the more you save. although i'm not really driving right now that would be unsafe. when insurance is affordable, it's surprisingly painless. ohone day you'll tell yourse grandkids about it. and they'll say, "grandpa just tell us about humpty dumpty". and you'll say, "he broke his pelvis or whatever, now back to my creamy heinz mayonnaise". heinz mayonnaise, unforgettably creamy.
there were two important decisions by the united states supreme court yesterday that could affect voting in america. in one case the supreme court upheld the rights of state governments to gerrymander their congressional districts for political purposes. something that both parties have done to varying degrees but has most recently been raised to a new level of sophistication by republican legislatures using computerized data vote. someone said the partisan gerrymanderers here debased and di honored our democracy turning up side down the issue. >> john roberts switched sides
and wrote the majority opinion denying the trump administration the right to insert a question about citizenship in the census. the bureau says it has a printing deadline for the next census of monday of next week. july 1st. that has provoked the president of the united states to call for delaying the census which would be grossly unconstitutional. the president tweeted i have asked the lawyers if they can delay the census no matter how long until the supreme court has given -- giving a decision on this critical matter. former acting solicitor general has an answer to president trump's question for the lawyers and neil will join us next. i switched to miralax for my constipation.
stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. and it doesn't cause bloating, cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. miralax. look for the pink cap. who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go. expedia. (osamah) cancer is... the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced. (henry) i thought it was unfair. when-- when you hear those words that you get diagnosed with cancer.
(osamah) successfully treating it still remains one of the most enormous challenges facing us today. we realized that, if we developed the technology that could take 2-dimensional patient imaging and convert it into 3-dimensional holographic renderings, we could enable surgeons to dissect around the cancer so we can precisely remove it. when we first started, we felt like this might just not be possible because computing power just wasn't there, but verizon 5g ultra wideband will give us the ability to do this. we won't rest until we see this technology being able to change lives. you might or joints.hing for your heart... but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory.
prevagen. healthier brain. better life. eh, not enough fiber... chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. glucerna. everyday progress (burke) at farmers insurance, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a parking splat. fly-by ballooning. (man) don't...go...down...oh, no! aaaaaaahhhhhhhh! (burke) rooftop parking. (burke) and even a hit and drone. (driver) relax, it's just a bug. that's not a bug, that's not a bug! (burke) and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
denying the trump administration the right to insert a citizenship question in the census in chief justice's opinion they wrote the officials must offer genuine justifications for important decisions reasons that can be scrutinized by court in the interest of public. excepting con -- accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the intersurprise. joining us the former u.s. acting solicitor general. he's argued 39 cases before the united states supreme court.
most lawyers don't ever get to argue one. neil, thank you very much for joining us tonight. appreciate it. and you're reading of the census decision? >> well, i think it's quite a resounding victory for the challengers. i should say i represented the house of representatives in this case. before doing that some years ago i represented the presidency, president obama, and congress. and can i tell you that when you're standing before the supreme court and telling the supreme court the president believes x or did -- made this decision because of reason y, it's really hard to lose that case. you really almost have to try to lose it. it's kind of like failing a class at yale. you've got to try. and here that's what happened. it's a remarkable opinion by the chief justice that basically said president trump's reasons were contrived. that's pretty powerful language. he meant the trump administration said we're adding this citizenship question to enforce the voting rights act.
now, i'm not sure the president has even heard of the voting rights act. he certainly never brought any enforcement action under it. it seemed implausible on its face. the evidence at the trial really showed this was a bogus reason. the chief justice is saying look, mr. president, you can lie to the american people. i'm not getting involved in that but don't lie to the federal judiciary. >> is there -- now the president is tweeting can we delay the census? >> yeah. so the two problems with that. number one his own lawyers and the u.s. solicitor general have come to the supreme court before and said we can't delay the census. they used that to try and bypass the court of appeals and race their case to the supreme court. now that that's failed, they're trying to say the president is trying to say we can delay the census. there's one problem with that. . it's called article one of the constitution. you don't have to go far. i know we have a president who doesn't like to read and not read the constitution.
it's page one of the constitution. the census has to take place every ten years. that's 2020. it's been true since 279 -- 1790. he can try that. it would be unconstitutional. >> and it can sound reasonable to people that there be a question about citizenship on the census. are you a united states citizen? but in that same provision of the constitution that you mention, which i happen to have in front of me, page one as we now call it, it says that the census is to count persons. it could have said count citizens but it says it's to count persons. >> yes, absolutely. and then the other important thing is that the census bureau itself has said if you add the citizenship question, you're going to get massive undercounting to the tune of 8 %, and that undercounting is going to be minorities. and we now know because of some recently discovered documents that there has been a republican plot all along to add the citizenship question. not because of the voting rights act but because they want to
suppress the number of minorities who would fill out the census. this is not like a random survey. this is really important. the census is what decides how many people are sent to the congress from a particular district and how many electoral college votes they get and how much federal spending they get for all sorts of social programs. it's a big deal. >> and what is the theory of the undercount j the citizenship question would produce an undercount why? >> because if you're illegal or undocumented, you're going to obviously be afraid to answer questions from a government official. one of the whole things is if you say oh, i'm not a citizen, then they're worried that these folks are worried well, then maybe ice or others will come knocking. >> census takers are there for nothing other than data. it's hard to believe all the government wants to know is the basic data. they don't even really care what the name is at that point. >> exactly. >> neil, thank you for joining
us. we appreciate it. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now with brian williams. tonight donald trump sends a twitter invite to kim jong-un and jokes about election interference with the man accused of interfering in our election. while serious people looking on find nothing to laugh about. plus the fallout after two nights of debates, 20 democrats spread over four hours. there was one moment there that tonight has forced the front runner into damage control. and this week's overlook legal headline included a pal manafort perp walk and the supreme court decision. all of it has the 11th hour gets underway on a friday night. >> well, good evening once again from our nbc news head quarters here in new york. day 890 of the trump administration. however, it's day