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that's all in and the rachel maddow show starts now. good evening, rachel. >> thank, chris. we have a big show tonight. lots going on. i am pleased to say california senator kamala harris is here tonight. she had a huge night at the first democratic debate. i have not had a chance to speak to her since, but she will be live with me in a few minutes and i'm excited about that. as a preface to that, you know how i feel about spending too much time on the polls and fund-raising and the horse race stuff this early on in the campaign. that's not my favorite thing to spend lots of time talking about this early on. because kamala harris is here tonight, i want to point out a couple of interesting lines in the new nbc poll that just came out tonight in the last few hours. you might have seen the top
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results in the poll already among democratic voters and the news poll that is again just out tonight that shows joe biden on top with 26%. in second place is elizabeth warren with 19%. then there is a tie for third place between kamala harris and bernie sanders at 13 points each. that's the top tier. the double-digit crowd. biden, warren, seven points back and harris and sanders six points back from warren. below the top four, we get into the single digits. pete buttigieg is at 7%. two candidates at 2%. beto o'rourke and andrew yang. and then candidates in the 1% club. amy klobuchar.
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then a 0% club. kirstin gillibrand. kirstin gillibrand all polling at goose egg in the new poll. this is just one poll. it's early on. they are all trying to hit at least one or two percent to help them get into the next debates. there are a couple of things that i want to show you about this top tier of candidates as they rate in the new nbc poll. it's on the subject of senator harris and her standings since she will be our guest tonight. also because of that top tier of candidates, senator harris is the 1 who turned in the lowest fund-raising numbers in the last quarter that ended after the first debate. mayor pete buttigieg was only at
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7%, ranked fifth in the poll, but in the last quarter, he was first in fund-raising around 25 million. biden around 21.5, warren around 19 and sanders around 18. harris was behind at $12 million. again, i know it's easy to get lost in the sauce in the horse race stuff pointlessly. it's too easy to put too much weight on any one or two metrics early on in the campaign. here's a thing that makes me particularly interested to be able to talk to har harris tonight. that we can see in the race right now, that is that the fact that if i put it in brought strokes, as i look at the numbers and as i look at the various horse race metrics, it looks to me like if she can capitalize on what she has going
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on, if she can grow to meet the moment right now, kamala harris more than anybody else in the field appears to be the candidate in the top tier who has the most room to run. she has the most interest. the most potential support out there from democratic voter who is haven't yet committed to who they like. you can tell from the nbc news poll out tonight that it turns out almost no democratic voters have fully committed yet to who they like. nbc news asked voters, is your mind definitely meat up. only 12% said yes. my mind is definitely made up. i know who i'm going to vote for in the primary. people are willing to tell people who they are inclined towards, but 80% still have an open mind. the pollsters asked if your mind is not definitely made up, which of the other candidates besides your first choice are you look at as your back up? your second choice?
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number one answer is senator kamala harris. they tried to get the same idea a differently way. they asked the who are you intrigued by question. this is how they phrased it. leaving aside the candidate you support or a second choice, are there other candidates you would consider supporting and want to learn more about? if yes, who would that be? the top answer is the same. kamala harris. the top line results of this poll overall, she is tied with bernie sanders behind biden and warren. there is more interest from people who are not already supporting her than any other candidate in the field. that translates to room to grow when she is already a top tier candidate in terms of polling. if she can build a campaign and run a campaign and raise it is money she needs to capitalize on that interest and reward people
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who come looking to find out more about her by giving them a reason to stick with her, if she can do that, she's in a good position. one of the most interesting positions and honestly the interest in senator harris right now and the number of people in the democratic primary who are willing to take a look at her, it's likely being driven in large part by what this question is getting. which candidate or candidates in the debates most impressed you. by debates they mean the two nights of the first debate hoved by msnbc, nbc and telemundo two weeks ago. which candidate or candidates most impress said you. the number one answer is kamala harris by a mile. 15 points north of elizabeth warren who is the second response by democratic voters. we will have senator harris here live in a moment at an
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interesting time in the campaign to be able to talk with her. she is turning heads and made a huge impression with her performance, a commanding performance of the numbers. that was two weeks back and the challenge is to build and grow and take advantage of it. she has been rolling out a bunch of proposals and i'm happy she is here tonight. i'm interested to see how she is doing at this point in the campaign. that's coming up. also though, there is lots of news. today was frankly slightly nut balls in washington. there is always a lot going on at once, but today was pushing the envelope. the house judiciary committee voted to authorize subpoenas to jared kushner, former attorney general jeff sessions, rod rosenstein, john kelly to trump's now awaiting sentencing mike flynn, campaign manager
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cory lewandowski and david pecker from the national enquirer and editor there as well who helped the president with his hush money payments to cover up alleged affairs before the elections. a lawyer named keith davidson is uk subpoenaed. michael cohen was the other lawyer involve and he is already serving federal prison time for his in them. jeff sessions' chief of staff who has been the man at the center of this huge debacle for the trump administration over this census thing which we will talk about in a moment. jody hunt and rod porter who was gently nudged out of the trump white house after domestic white house allegations from both of his ex-wives put flesh on the boness to why he couldn't get a security clearance despite the fact that you need one if you
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are staff secretary to president of the united states. a nice bunch subpoenaed today by the judiciary committee. a nice bunch whose subpoenas have been authorized by the committee. the judiciary has been clodding along in this deliberate process of requesting testimony and demanding it and still not getting it and demanding it some more and making noises about how some day they will win it all in court. these new copy subpoenas are part of that slow roll, but they represent an interesting escalation in terms of who they are targeting and how close the targets are to the president. judiciary chairman jerry nadler is now authorized to send the subpoenas to each of the 12 guys. we will see when he does it and whether we really are going to see the guys in an open televised hearing have to answer questions.
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the other subpoenas that he was authorized to cent out in addition to the allegations of obstruction of justice, potential corruption and abuse of power by the president, the other subpoenas he was authorized to send out is about the trump policy of taking kits from their parents and other family members at the border. we reported earlier this week on a trove of significant incident reports detailing alleged mistreatment of kids at a border patrol in yuma, arizona. they had a detailed claim by a 15-year-old girl that she was sexually assaulted by a uniformed officer inside that facility. although the significant report about that alleged sexual assault by a uniformed officer was filed with the trump administration more than a month ago with hhs, a case manager from health and human services filled out and filed that report in early june, nevertheless there is no indication that that
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matter was ever followed up and no indication that they were investigated after this girl came forward to formally report it. there was no indication that matter was looked into until nbc news obtain and published the report earlier and called cvp for comment. now finally they said that matter is being investigated. today the chief border patrol official in charge gave an interview to a local reporter in arizona named victor kald roan in which he questioned him about the abuse allegation involving that facility that he runs in yuma. >> has there been a chance for training for guards and agents or is it sort of a do the best you can every day? >> we are not child care professionals. i would say that. but in terms of detention and transport and those things, we are trained for that. >> a child care professional. we are not trained for that.
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you know. this is the man running a facility that has been holding hundreds of kids apart from their parents and any adult relatives. holding k ining kids alone cramo tightly they have to take turns sleeping because there is only enough room to lie down. one of the kids say that the officers took away the mats on which the kissed were allowed to sleep as punishment for complaining about the chlorine in the water making it too difficult to drink. >> we are not child care professionals. we are not trained for that. on the child separation policy in general, the committee was authorized to start subpoenaing the trump administration for records and documents about that policy and the ongoing practice of taking little kids away from their parents. on the yuma, arizona allegations, a key oversight committee in the house announced they are opening an investigation into allegations of physical and sexual abuse of
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migrant children with customs and border patrol officers. this is a direct report of reporting. the committee said they want all the significant reports that describe allegations of abuse of these kids eby homeland securit department staff. julia anzly said this week while the reporting was based on nearly 30 of these incident reports that nbc news obtained, she said there are believed to be many, many many other significant incident reports in addition to the 30 or so that nbc saw. now that reporting caused congress to demand to see all of them that allege abuse. congress should be able to get those. brace yourself for that. tomorrow we are expecting 750 vigils and protests under the banner lights for liberty.
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these are how the trump administration has been abusing and mistreating immigrants in their custody. most of the protests are going to be right outside detention centers where immigrants and kissed are being held. vigils and rallies outside the border patrol and the ice facilities holding people. one of the vigils planned is outside the yuma facility. that one is expected to be a large event tomorrow night. again, we are expecting hundreds of these vigils and protests. the lights for liberty events. this comes as the trump administration is threatening that they are imminently about to start rounding up immigrants and their families all over the country. that has been a repeated recent threat including from the president himself just over the last several weeks. to be honest with you, we do not know if the new threats today that this is imminently about to
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happen, we don't know if the new threats are more realistic or serious than the previous threats that have come and gone from them. if their aim is to try to rattle people, certainly they are succeeding. if the aim is to scare immigrant communities and scare them about the way the trump immigration has treated them, it's working. immigration officials announced the raids would target 10 major u.s. cities. atlanta a baltimore, chicago, denver, houston, los angeles, miami, new orleans, new york, and san francisco. the mayors of many of those cities are speaking out saying they will do what they can to block the supposedly impending raids to try to protect immigrant communities in the large cities. the mayor of chicago, lori lightfoot said not only would the police not cooperate with immigrations and customs enforcement in the raids, but
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that chicago had cut off ice from having access to any chicago police databases and said that cut off will remain permanent. houston's mayor said his city's police will not participate and cooperate with federal raids. we are advising people they have due process rights. they don't have to answer the door and let anybody into their homes. in new york both the mayor of new york city and the governor of new york state told immigrant families that the city and the state would help people fight for their rights. so these mayors and some governors and local officials who are blocking access to police databases and telling local police departments not to
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cooperate and they are making it clear that ice is not welcome in their cities, doing what they feel they can, some of the consternation of imminent raids is about the fact that the trump administration seems to be such a chaos machine on this. they have threatened the raids. nobody knows if today's announcements are just another threat or the threats might actually happen. why are they announcing them in advance anyway? announcing the 10 cities where raids will take place after they announced the list of 10 cities, like immediately after, ice confirmed to the city of new orleans that actually even though new orleans was one of the 10 cities on the list, all immigration enforcement will be temporarily suspended because of the huge freaking tropical storm bearing down on the city and about to be a hurricane and already causing flooding. it will be a hurricane by the time it makes landfall this
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weekend. maybe the federal government planning a round up in the middle of that was not a brilliant idea, but they didn't notice the weather forecast until today. so new orleans is one of the 10 cities and then said no, not you. they changed their plans. did they have the plans in the first place? are they this confused or colon controversial? the mayor reassured immigrants that they could safely evacuate the city if they want to without fear they might be stopped by federal immigration agents on the way out. she said safety first and a part of that which is a part of the city of new orleans is supporting the fact that they will not have a presence in the city of new orleans.
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the white house has been trying to stoke as much fear as possible. part of the mo is the worse you treat immigrants the more you try to terrify people, the better that is for the country somehow. the more pab and fear you can instill, that redown thes to the white house's benefit. in the midst of confusion and the ongoing threats about the supposedly impending round ups and national organizations including the acla have been trying in advance of the raids to teach people about their rights. basic stuff like if immigration comes to your door, do not open the door. you are not legally required to let them in unless they have a warrant. ask why they are there. if you don't speak english, you
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have the right to remain silence and have an interpreter and speak to a lawyer. local aclu chapters and immigrants rights groups are blasting out hotlines to call if you are confronted. the national aclu filed a lawsuit attempting to ensure immigrants rounded up are afforded a hearing before being deported. they are destroying the trump administration in what has just been a debacle with the trump administration trying to recast and rejigger the census in a way that bluntly appears to be designed to under cut immigrants and latino communities specifically. they lost this and took it to the supreme court and lost it there, too. justice department lawyers who had been fighting for the trump
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administration conceded to the table that they lost it and trump made them take that back? that was in a bizarre comedy of errors and the trump-appointed bosses and the higher ups at the justice department were telling different stories about what they descend intended to do. they never 34e9 each other and no one knew who the client was and what they were supposed to be saying to the south. today inevitably, they announced they are giving up on the effort so rejigger the census. he announced he has an amazing new plan which is better than that which turns out to be doing the census the same way it has always been done. the aclu which has been a plaintiff that blocked the white house on this put out this stark statement from one of their lead
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attorneys. the statement said trump'sweapo ends. he wanted to turbo charge gerrymandering with polluting the influence of latino communities. he is taking the option rerejected. trump may claim victory today, but it's a defeat for him and his administration. joining us is the author of that statement is one of the lawyer who is argued the streeupreme c case. >> it's been an interesting one. >> did you know what happened when the president announced he would be making a statement from the white house on this matter in there is so much confusion. >> if you look at the statements over the last two weeks, it was
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an incantation and we are going to put it back on the census even though it ruled it was illegal. they challenge that and they put a new question on the census. >> why was it so dangerous in your mind for the president to go ahead and do this? he mounted a pr effort trying to claim this was a benign question and wouldn't have a major impact and now saying it will be asked by other means, even if not on the census. >> we haven't had a question about citizenship on the census for 70 years. the reason is because survey professionals know that if you put that on there, it's going to cause people not to respond to the census. the latest estimate from the administration about three weeks ago was that about nine million
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people would not respond to the census if that question were on there. just to put it into perspective. more people than in the state of new jersey. the 11th largest state. if you put them together, 12 seats in congress and 14 votes in the electoral college. those people go poof and it would mall apportion congress and change the allegation of over 9$900 billion annually all to the detriment of immigrant communities. >> if the effort to put this on the census was about under counting latino communities, are you worried that that will be achieved by the white house having made so much noise and the president having mounted the pr effort he has? with the president's anti-immigrant rhetoric and sentiment, has the damage been done? >> i hope not.
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we know that people's willingness to respond to the survey is affected by the social and political environment. it's not a great one for participation in government surveys by noncitizens and people of color. we have about 10 months to try to rally community groups and state and local government who is care about participation. >> in terms of what happens next, the president did announce -- i was not clear, but he said i will direct federal agencies to collect this by means other than the census. are you concerned about that? >> he said he is ordering they are doing what they are already doing. the census said they are going to collect citizenship data from the department of homeland security and the social security administration in anticipation of the nooblt it would lose this
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case. they are doing what he is ordering them to do. they are declaring them to do what they are already doing. it's a remarkable situation. we will have to wait for the details and see how that's used. >> in terms of the census, you won. i know it was a bewildering battle. congratulations. the director of the aclu's voting project. senator kamala harris is live with us in a minute. stay with us. harris is live with us in a minute. stay with us ♪ -i'm sorry? -what teach here isn't telling you is that snapshot rewards safe drivers with discounts on car insurance. -what? ♪ -or maybe he didn't know. ♪ [ chuckles ] i'm done with this class. -you're not even enrolled in this class. -i know. i'm supposed to be in ceramics. do you know -- -room 303. -oh. thank you. -yeah. -good luck, everybody. -oh. thank you. -yeah.
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see if you can spot the pattern. kamala harris jumped nine points in cnn's national polling and 13 points in the poll by quinnipiac. three points when you look at "the washington post" abc poll and emerson college shows the same thing. harris with an eight-point jump and the latest economy poll has
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her up seven since the debate and a univision poll shows her support jumped 16 points following the june debate. according to "usa today," she jumped to second place in iowa following the debate. senator harris appears to be heading in one direction, and it's not down. nbc news just released its first poll of the 2020 democratic race. we can't talk about a jump because it's the first one. after biden and warren ranked first and second, har sis tied with bernie sanders at 13. it is clear at this point that kamala har sis a top tier candidate in this giant race. with that happening, how do you keep that momentum going? how do you capitalize on recent moves from the horse race? joining us is senator kamala
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harris. >> great to be with you, thank you. >> i have not seen you since the debate. obviously america thinks you did well. how has it changed your campaign or how you are doing this? >> on a daily basis, it has not changed. i'm spending a lot of time in the primary states. north carolina, south carolina, nevada and we are building up a ground game and hiring staff and organizing around voting and registration. there is momentum and the way i think about it is that it is steady and to your point, the trajectory is a good one, but there is a lot of work to be done. i'm in it to win it and intend to win, but it won't be without a lot of hard work and smart work and i have a great team and so one day at a time. >> one of the things that happened in the wake that was
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debate in that splash, the attention thaw had that turned ugly. we saw birtherism-style attacks circulating online that you are not really black. when the president's eldest son joined in that attack on twitter, that was an aha moment that this was what the campaign is going to be like. it made me wonder how you and the campaign approach if you have a strategy for thinking about that campaigning now that you have seen a taste of it. >> i have to be candid with you. i was not surprised. i found it uninteresting. it's just a revival of an old playbook that was debunked a lot time ago. so everyone was used to it and as you can see, and i really thank my colleagues and others who spoke up. i have thanked them and will
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continue to thank them. it was bunk. so we are going forward. the stakes are high as you know. people are going to play unfortunately people play dirty. we have to be prepared for it, but american voters and the american public want that we are going to -- those of us who profess to be a leader and want to be president of the united states, have to prioritize public discourse and educate the public about issues that concern them when they wake up at 3:00 in the morning worrying about families and their future. that's how i'm going to focus. where necessary, we will punch back. >> let me talk to you about the strange announcement that we got from president trump concerning the census. >> yeah. >> as you know, the president and the administration had been trying to sort of rejigger the census in a way that was expected to undercut latino and
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immigrant communities. they lost in the courts. i was talking with the voting rights lawyer who you saw in here. about the possibility that maybe the damage is done. latino and immigrant communities have received the message that the census will be part of the way this administration wants to go after them and they should fear it and stay away from it and not respond. that will accomplish what the trump administration was trying to do here. what do you think about that as a worry and what do you think about how to counteract it? >> he has done incredible work as has the aclu and many others. it's a legitimate point. we started to see that the day after the election in november of 2016. the number of families where the children did not want to go to school for fear if they came back, their parents would not be home. the number of family who is didn't take their child to the
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pediatrician because the child the have contact with the government. we have seen it over and over again. what we are seeing from then until today is constant displays of the fact that this administration and this president is in the business of instilling fear in people. in particular those people he perceives to be vulnerable. i look at this through the lens of my career as a prosecutor. i'm going to tell you. the best tool in the tool belt of the predator against an undocumented immigrant is to convince that victim that if you report the crime against you. rain, child assault, fraught, you will be treated as the criminal. when he makes these grand proclamation through tweets, what he is doing i believe intentionally is trying to create fear in these individuals and these families.
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that is not the sign of a strong president. the display of strength in my book is you lift people up. you don't beat them down. this guy in the white house has a continuous pattern of trying to beat people down. specifically on this issue on the census. what we know and we have always been afraid of this. there are a lot of blended families in america. by that i mean on this issue, families where certain family members will be doult edocument others not. what's going to happen? when the census takier knocks on the door, they don't answer the door. they are fearing they might be in the fear of deportation. or investigating who is in that household for purposes about deportation and not counting people. the result will be and include that people will not be counted and who in particular?
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immigrants. specifically in terms of the largest population we know has been the target of this administration's fear campaign? latino immigrants. our fear is that this census in 2020 will not be accurate. the census which is conducted every 10 years is done as a reflection of our democracy, which is to say that we pay attention to who is here. we distribute resources based on the need and the population of communities. we draw lines and make decisions about elected offices and jurisdictions based on the population sizes. what this president is contributing to is a faulty census that we will have to live with for the next 10 years. it is highly irresponsible because it's yet another example of this president trying to interfere and if not weaken our democracy. >> senator kamala har sis our guest. if you can stay with us, i will
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we are back with senator kamala harris, senator, thank you for doing this. >> glad to be with you. >> one of the things we are covering is the threat from the trump administration that there will be nationwide round ups of immigrants and their families. they announced a list of 10 and then nine major cities that they will target. we don't know if they will do them, but it's interesting to see mayors and other officials. i was struck by mayor lori lightfoot saying they will not be required to cooperate with the rates and they will not have access to databases because of this sort of thing. it is striking to see federal government be sort of stood up
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to by mayors and local officials. that conflict is heartening and a little bit scary. what's your take? >> i assumed that what mayor lightfoot will do and mayor garcetti will do in los angeles. that's to say we don't want the limited resources of local law enforcement to go into the job that the federal government has to do and we want to be trusted by our community and not be feared by our community. again, as a prosecutor, as a former prosecutor, i saw it as a prosecutor, i don't want a victim of crime to be afraid to wave down that patrol car when she has been hurt for fear that if she stops that police officer she is going to be deported. i'm going to tell you something. if she is a mother, if he is a
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father, they will endure any abuse they have certaexperience make sure they can go home and take care of their babies. they will not report bad things that happened to them and therefore their community, meaning our community. a crime against any one of us is a crime against all of us. i applaud that mayor saying we will not put local resources into it. when we do, like we have done in the past, we will go and prosecute criminal organizations. what are you doing picking up people who have not committed a crime? it's a misuse of resources. >> when you look at the cities they will be targeting, it is san francisco and l.a. and atlanta, baltimore, miami, new york. i think it's large cities, but it's also places where they are pretty sure they will have people outrage and protesting and confronting federal officers as they try to do this. a lot of people suggest and i
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think i'm partial to this analysis that the president may be picking fights around immigration and displaying cruelty around immigrants and immigrant communities because he thinks it helps them and democrats and liberals stand up for immigrants and that should be alienating the base that helps him get elected. what do you think the antidote to that thinking is? >> i am with you. i think that throughout this president's tenure, he tleab throwing flames with the vanity project called a wall which by the way will never get built. he's doing that with this hand over here and by tweet he commute institutes a trade nals is resulted in farmers in iowa looking at bankruptcy who have
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soy beans rotting because he cut off a market that cultivated over 10 years or more. while he is getting everyone riled up about immigration on this hand he had a trade policy where it is by some estimates, hundreds of thousands or 700,000 auto workers may be out of the job by christmas. while he is doing all that, he is passing a policy where american families are spending $1.4 billion a month from shampoo to washing machines. he passes a tax bill that benefits the top 1% while he made the promise to help working people and betrayed them and said he would deal with infrastructure. there is no evidence of an infrastructure plan. the guy has to distract from the fact that he made the promises that i believe he had no intention ever fulfilling. he failed to perform on every
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level by which we should measure a president of the united states. not to mention failed as a understand commander in chief. he will create this distraction. i agree with you. he will do the raids which is a crime against humanity and i believe in the way he is coming about this and the way he has been handling the issue when you have babies in cages, i went down after the debate in ma'amy that next morning with many of my colleagues who are running and we went to a place in florida called homestead. you know why we went there, rachel? in homestead, there is a private detention facility that houses 2700 children. as a sitting member of the united states senate, they would not let us in. we walked down the road and got
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on a ladder to look over the fence to see what was going on and i saw children lined up by gender, single file like they are criminals being led into barracks. these are the kinds of policies that he institutes as a way to one, extend what he believes which is that he believes we are not a nation that should embrace immigrants, but it's to distract from the fact that he failed to perform. he failed to perform. so he engages in this exaggerated response to an issue as a way to distract. you talk about commander in chief, this is a guy who takes the word of the russian president over the word of the american intelligence when it comes to the fact that russia interfered in the erection lection. he takes the north korean dictator over the word of the american intelligence when it
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comes to an american student who was tortured and died. he takes the word of the saudi prince over the american int intelligence when it comes to the journalist who was assassinated. he does not want to be judged on that so he distracts the american people. >> i have one last question i want to ask you. senator kamala harris is our guest. we'll be right back. tor kamala r guest. we'll be right back. that's the beauty of your smile. bring out the best in it with crest 3d white. crest removes 95% of surface stains... in just three days. most people think a button is just a button. ♪ that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destination. most people haven't driven a lincoln. discover the lincoln approach to craftsmanship at the lincoln summer invitation. right now, get 0% apr on all 2019 lincoln vehicles
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talking about which is single payer for everybody. >> one of the things i want is american families do not want to lose is the ban on preexisting conditions being the reason that people can't have access to health care. children being on their parents' coverage until 27. that has to come back immediately. so many people have benefitted from it. there have to be immediate priorities, but ultimately i support medicare for all. that's why we are looking at a system where we have got to have people not have cost be the barrier to their access to health care. i was in iowa recently and a pediatrician said kamala, we do have medicare for all. i said how is that? she said emergency rooms. right? let's do it in a way that is more effective and cheaper where people don't have access to
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health care because they are in crisis and we are paying much more because they are getting in at the latest stage of their needs. let's have a system where we have everyone having access as a right and not a privilege for just those who can afford it. >> senator kamala harris leading presidential contender. thank you for making the time. >> thank you, rachel. appreciate you making the time. l appreciate you making the time i. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, marie could only imagine enjoying freshly squeezed orange juice.
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this should be interesting. tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m. eastern time, the d.c. circuit court of appeals will hear oral arguments over the subpoena sent to donald trump's accounting firm when they subpoenaed to get trump's financial records with the firm. you might remember in may, a judge ruled that that subpoena was valid and they needed to comply. the lawyers appealed the decision and tomorrow is the argument of that appeal. it's a big deal. there is a lot at stake and the president has not had to handle over financials and judges ruled that he does. what's particularly interesting about this thing tomorrow is that the oral arguments in the case will be live streamed. usually in federal court we don't get access to anything, but we will be able to hear the arguments that means i won't have to read you the transcript tomorrow night. i'm so hear for it. see you again tomorrow. it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening.