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the water is stacking up. we got good news to the east side of parish, the tide has fallen. hopefully within the hour the tide will start to fall, and as we see, the levee has not broke.
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it's just overrunning the levee. >> thanks for staying with us on msnbc. i'm richard lui live in new york city. following breaking news on tropical storm barry. it's been downgraded from a hurricane, but hang on a second. still large concern for the gulf coast, lots of rain, flooding for days, up to 20 inches of rain expected through sunday across parts of louisiana. this is just some of the video we've been seeing of water flowing over the top of levees in louisiana today. there have been reports of floods forcing people to scramble to roof tops. nbc's jay gray has the latest from new orleans. >> reporter: barry, the first hurricane of the season, didn't maintain that status for long. a category 1 storm for just a few hours before quickly dropping back to a tropical storm. >> although barry has slowed, it's also intensified.
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>> reporter: there is a significant danger right now across the strike zone. mandatory evacuations ordered this afternoon inter rebon parish, while the rush is to get cattle to higher ground. some areas brace are for what could be another 20 inches of rain. >> going to be a long several days for our state. i know the people of louisiana are strong and resilient. and i can assure you, we are going to get through this, but there are going to be some significant challenges. >> reporter: a challenge that is already growing like the flood waters. >> you can see the bridge, the water pushing up underneath the bridge. >> reporter: states and neighbors have been swallowed with more on the way. a fight that forecasters say, like the rain, will continue for the next several days here. j j >> joining me from plaquemines
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parish, mariana atencio. i was looking at what the governor was saying in louisiana. just some of the numbers he brought out, nearly 3,000 louisiana national guard soldiers deployed throughout the state. also mentioning 172 coach buses, 22 paratransit, and 170 school buses available for missions there. they're trying to help people that have been in the area that you have been reporting from there in louisiana. have you seen them around? >> reporter: you can see, i think, one of their trucks behind me right now, richard. national guard trucks. and the effort here from what jay's package explained are those significant challenges, challenges like this road, highway 23 that we have been reporting on that is getting flooded because of that storm surge, because of the rainfall. and just because of the flooding that is coming from these neighborhoods that are completely blocked off because of this storm. sand bagging efforts are under way.
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we've been driving up and down this highway. national guard has now set up in formal check points and the one you see behind me. in main arteries like this one that could cut off entire communities, that could present even more challenges to try to help people in need, for people to come back to their homes, and just for the state itself to recover. as you were mentioning with the governor, we have new information from the national weather service. the area still at high risk of rainfall, an additional six to ten inches. thinking about an additional 6 to 10 inches and what would mean for these communities is a lot to process. and then the risk of storm surge still not out of people's hair here. it's actually -- it doesn't seem like it's raining much here, but if you just drive ten minutes north like i did with my team, come back here, it is pouring in other areas here of southeastern
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louisiana. richard? >> mariana, i can see the power lines, right? we've been watching those reports of how many folks are out of power in terms of power outages, 125,000, so about 20 minutes ago -- you're going to have sunset there in the new orleans area in the plaquemines parish you're reporting from in the coming hours. have you seen any crews out? it's probably too early. i don't know the answer, but the storm is still there. >> reporter: to be honest, i have not seen downed power lines or crews yet. it is still early. that rainfall is still a risk. so for the area where i've been moving around here, plaquemines parish, the challenge right now is basically these flooded communities. i haven't seen challenges yet that i know of in terms of the power, but we do know, of
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course, that across the state of the louisiana, richard, it's tens of thousands of people that are already without power. as it usually happens with these storms and i've covered quite a few of them over the past couple of years, it is really the day after when the power situation becomes the major focus. richard? >> i know you were just mentioning the truck behind you potentially being a national guard truck. is that a tanker truck? there's always the question of water and potable water in tough spaces. can you tell what kind of truck it is? is it some sort of tanker? >> reporter: i'm going to move out of the way so my cameraman, scott, can give you a better shot at the truck. it looks like a tanker truck. in front of it is a national guard truck. we saw about four of them driving past just before we went live with you. my assumption is, of course, that they are going to be conducting these sand bagging efforts throughout the highway. we saw it north of the highway. and then seven miles south of
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here is a place called point celeste that we heard from the sheriff is also threatened by heavy flooding. so these are the two sort of emergency points right now. the focus in this community, in the words of sheriff when i interviewed her a couple moments ago, he said it's a mess, literally that's what he said. that's what these crews are dealing with right now. richard? >> marry ann atencio. thank you, mariana for giving us the very latest there in louisiana. let's get over to morgan cesky also in louisiana, baton rouge instead. when we were talking a couple hours ago here, morgan, you were saying it's calm right now, but it's headed this way in terms of barry. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: richard, we can definitely feel that those outer strands of barry are making their way through this area. the winds are picking up. one of the members of my team
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recorded a gust of 100 miles per hour. meanwhile, it's been raining nonstop for the past few hours, that could likely be the case for hours to come, if not days, considering how slow system is moving. keep in mind the water you see behind me, that's the mississippi river above flood stage but it's not as a result of tropical storm barry as it comes inland. this was already high as a result of other rains that have happened in this area. that's what causing so much concern for a lot of folks here in baton rouge because they remember just back in 2016 another massive rain event that actually goes by the storm that has no name caused more than a billion dollars in damage, damaged more than 100,000 homes and put mud and up to four feet of water in a lot of folks' houses. that's why people are talking about and considering packing up and going to shelters or just getting out of dodge altogether because once you get that steady amount of rain to fall in this area for potentially days on
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end, it's not going to be a good thing, richard, because these people here say that all of the creeks and rivers drain into the mississippi. and so if that's sustained, it's going to be a serious cause for concern in the days ahead. >> morgan, we expect to hear from the governor in two or three hours, i think, is what was the advisory. in his last update and i was speaking with mariana, you may have heard our conversation. he was saying how there are 3,000 national guard soldiers that have been deployed as well as over 170 coach buses and other vehicles to help people get from one place to another. have you seen any sort of assistance, government buses that he was alluding to in where you have traveled so far today there in baton rouge? >> reporter: having been both in new orleans and baton rouge today, i can tell you the majority of the assistance from
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the national guard were deployed to those outlying areas that surrounded new orleans. as we approach baton rouge, the rain did begin to pick up, but, frankly, the worst of the damage we don't anticipate for another day or two as the rain continues to fall. i do know the national guard is spread across the state of louisiana. we did speak to a leader of the cajun navy who says they are prepositioning boats nearby if anyone needs help, or even being rescued. so it's a developing story here. it's fluid, to put it quite literally. >> morgan cesky from baton rouge, louisiana. we're going to touch base with you later as barry makes its way towards you. meteorologist michelle grossman also with us this hour. you are watching the reports here, michelle, and the video, the pictures of both the water that was there at the mississippi, the inundation that
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mariana atencio was showing us is plaquemines parish. and what appears to be the sand or marbles or stones that were going to be used to maybe shore up certain levees. what are you seeing from the reports that is consistent with what you're seeing on the satellite dishes? >> so we continue to watch the rain. that is the major headline. i think they both hit the nail on the head. this is just starting. this is going to be a 48-hour event or at least the next 36. we're going to see pictures that are catastrophic in some spots over the next couple days. certainly something we're going to watch over the next couple days. it's been a strange storm from the get-go. it came to the south, drove on down, hit the gulf, took the warmth of the gulf and kind of became a powerhouse. it was never a wind-maker. still 65 miles per hour but it's been a rain-maker. it picked up the moisture and moved to the north. let's give you the latest on barry. it is 20 miles west-southwest of
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lafayette, louisiana, still moving painfully slow. that's part of the problems. 65-mile-per-hour winds. that's a strong tropical storm. it did hit category 1 status, but quickly dissipated as it hit land as expected. we now hope it picks up forward speed but we're not expecting that. that is bad news for many because you see the training of rain over many spots. let's take a look at the path here. not moving very fast. by 1:00 still in louisiana. not until later on monday is it in arkansas. we're going to see this move very slowly. finally into the tennessee valley, eventually into the ohio valley, and then the mid-atlantic northeast by thursday and friday. we want to talk about the rain. we can't say this enough. rain is the weather headline, potentially deadly flooding, flash flooding. so we do have flash flood watches in the green. flash flooding possible through
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monday. just saturday night, that's monday morning. we do have a flash flood warning because we've been seeing rain for hours and hours. memphis down to alexandria we're seeing the potential for that watch. this is the latest six-hour loop. here's the heaviest rain right now. but we see the yellows and oranges that's indicating where the heaviest rain is falling. the dark colors indicating the heavier rain. lighter rain in new orleans, but biloxi was getting a lot of rain. getting a bit of a break. they're in and out of those heavy showers, but it's been eight hours of them being inundated with that. we're going to continue to see the bands move on shore over the next 36 hours and training over that same area, training meaning hitting the same spot over and over again. as we move throughout time here, this is what we're expecting in terms of rainfall. anywhere from 10, up to 20, even 25 inches of rain. so it's two feet of rain in some spots, really hard to wrap your
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head around it. here's that bull's-eye through central louisiana up to the north, even memphis, tennessee, 5.9. biloxi, 2.5 in addition to what has already fallen throughout the day. the darker pinks and light pinks is where we're expecting the bull's-eye for heavier rain. we don't want to discount the wind but we don't want to highlight it in terms of the big headline for this storm. we're still seeing winds anywhere from 10 up to 30 miles per hour, 47-mile-per-hour wind gusts approximate in some spots. we've seen pictures of roofs coming off buildings, trees falling on some cars, even a video where we saw a tree fall on a trailer that was overrun with bees. people inside the trailer being stung by the bees and the people rescuing them being stung. strange stories with this strange storm. we're going to watch these winds pick up in some spots.
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baton rouge, 61 miles per hour. jackson, 28. hattiesburg, 39. biloxi, 24. not humongous numbers. with the sun setting in the next couple of hours, that's bad news once we turn dark throughout the night. we're going to continue to watch this as we go throughout the next couple hours. the flash flooding threat in parts of louisiana, even through the panhandle of florida, southwestern mississippi and up through parts of tennessee. richard? >> so michelle, one of the things that i was looking at just doing bad math was looking at -- you said close to three feet of water in some places all said after this weekend? is that right? >> some spots could see 25 inches, so a little over two feet of water in some spots. >> in total? >> in total. once that rain falls, that's the mess. after that is where you see the destruction. it has to find its way somewhere, whether it sits there
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and it's stagnant, you get the problems with contamination, or it makes its way to the extremesextreme streams, creeks, and rivers. roads being washed away. you have to think of baton rouge in 2016 where they received 15 inches of rain, 10 to $15 billion had to be poured into the cleanup. some people are still sitting in fema trailers three years later and going through the same process all over again. so lots of prayers going on. our heart breaks for them. that's what we'll be watching over the next several days. >> storm surge, you're saying we still should be concerned about it. but you look at the pictures and the video and you go, that was earlier. >> yeah. >> storm surge can be very dangerous. we've seen reports of the levees that were built after katrina being overtopped still. >> yes. we've been watching the core of engineers, they have been doing such a great job looking at all those levees.
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they worked very hard. i think he opened all of them up except for two, and they've been doing a really good job with them. storm surge was a bigger athlth before. when the comes on shore it pushes it like a wall. the winds have switched to the south. now we're concerned about the fresh water coming down. >> all right. nbc meteorologist michelle grossman, thank you so much. we'll touch base with you very, very soon. let's go to jay bona fide, spokesman for the american red cross on the phone with us right now. jay, what is the latest status report results that you have. >> the first thing is i was in baton rouge in 2016. i just want to second those feelings that she said about our hearts going out to everyone that's kind of being affected by this storm that's coming now. so far we haven't seen anything at those levels but we know this is really just beginning. as far as the red cross, you
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know, we have multiple evacuation shelters open across the state for people that need a voluntary vaux evacuation. we have long-term shelters for as long as that need is there o to help people recover like we continue to do in baton rouge today. >> as you are looking at how much your resources and your facilities and your services are tested, how are things going so far? do you have 10% capacity utilization? 15 people where you normally have 100? are you ready to handle 100? >> we're absolutely ready. it will take a scale-up mode to do that. we're able to do that thanks to the planning we do. we talk about preparedness for the public to be prepared for storms like this, to be resilient. that's how we do that.
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we know when responses are going to come, we have our volunteers trained throughout the year. they get those materials that they need. so we've got as much predeployed and prepositioned as we can while keeping ourselves and our workforce, which is 90% volunteers, we want to make sure they're staying safe through this. and then we'll be able to move more resources in. the other piece is none of this would be possible without the regular year-long support of the american public. >> how are you ready to handle the power outages? >> we have the shelters available if it becomes something people cannot stay in their homes. we also have -- we are able to provide hot meals to folks as well. >> thank you so much, jay bona fide. a alligator moving around there in mississippi. talking about power outages,
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breaking news here in new york city. a partial blackout in midtown and uptown manhattan. 1.5 million people calling it their own. new york city transit saying they have reports of several subway stations without power throughout manhattan. here's a photo from moments ago from a subway station, 59th street taken by elizabeth brennen. there's no word on the potential cause. but if you see something flickering here behind me while we're on air, you'll understand why. we'll keep an eye on this and bring you developments in new york city. we'll be right back after this. s whoa. travis in it made it. it's amazing. oh is that travis's app? it's pretty cool, isn't it? there's two of them. they're multiplying. no, guys, its me. see, i'm real. i'm real! he thinks he's real.
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. i remind people that i'm someone who escaped war, who escaped really horrifying situation to enter a country, a neighboring country, like kenya, and that neighboring country provided water and safety and shelter. and that is really what people are expecting when they're coming to their neighboring country. when we see stuff like this happening in oh parts of the world, we think there's an atrocity being committed. now you don't see the same kind of uproar in the united states when these atrocities with being committed in the hands of our government. >> new reaction from democratic congresswoman ilhan omar speaking with my colleague, refrmd al sharpton on "politicsnation" on the ongoing crisis at the southern border.
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hitting back at the trump administration for following through on threats of mass deportations beginning tomorrow and targeting 2,000 migrants. joining us now, jill wine-banks, former assistant watergate special counsel prosecutor. raul, you heard ilhan omar describe what she came from, what she is now seeing here in the united states and really drawing that parallel. you've been to these centers before. and the center that vice president mike pence was at, 382 men there in a space that the poor reporter was able to show us on friday. 99 degrees outside mcallen, texas. and i can add more details as we go, but what we're seeing here does not seem like a place as she was saying representative that we would see in america and let happen. >> right. i think it's shocking the
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national conscience right now. this is not something like a natural disaster or an earthquake. what we're seeing in these horrific photos and disturbing images, this is a direct result of policies of this administration to incarcerate as many people as possible, told-to-headline them longer than the law permits. and i think just tactically this entire visit of the vice president was extremely misguided because there's no way to put a good picture in these types of images. >> look at these pictures with me again here, raul. you said you've been to detention centers before. is this consistent with what you've seen before? >> these types of conditions here are the exception in places that i have visited. however, they are not in any way an exception to what is happening on the southern border right now. just remember, again, these people are applying for legal right of asylum for legal forms
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of humanitarian relief. whether or not they are successful in winning those claims, they do still have those rights under u.s. and international law. >> jill wine-banks, that has been one of the questions, the rights and privileges that these migrants have. those who are asking for in many cases asylum or refugee status. whether this country can give it to them and give them the rights that are outlined very clearly in the 13th amendment that you know so well here, that if you enter this land, you have certain rights and privileges as a person, as a human, within our borders. >> that is exactly correct. and it is an international right as well as under the u.s. constitution to come to america seeking asylum means that you are following the immigration law. there is nothing illegal in terms of any law, including the immigration laws, about applying for asylum. people are coming here because of horror in their home countries.
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they are seeking safety and they're being greeted with a lack of sanitary conditions, a lack of space, heat that is unbelievable, and many people are going to be ill or even worse. it is a horror. and then to have the president initiate raids tomorrow on top of these conditions is really something that americans have to take pause and say, what is going on in this country? many people protested today and more need to be out there protesting both the conditions at our southern border and the treatment of immigrants who are already in our country. >> fer in an, the pictures tell it, but i'll say it out loud. cages there as the video shows, large living rooms of men, in this case, where vice president mike pence was at, where the reporting is you would not be
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able to sleep all at once. you'd have to sleep in shifts. in addition to that, the pool reporter was told they were hungry. and they wanted to brush their teeth. and that the stench was horrendous according to josh dawsey. >> richard, we have to call this what it is. jill made reference of it. these are crimes against humanity happening in the name of the united states government. 57 years ago this month of july, my mother and mer grandparents came to this country from cuba seeking asylum on the shores of the united states. when they landed in this country, they were processed at a government center, given a stipend a place to live, and roud to stay in freedom for the rest of their lives where they live to this day. the fact that this administration is utilizing this cruelty, these crimes against humanity to justify a policy is not only taking a sledgehammer to america's moral authority around the world, it is undermining the trust that we as
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citizens now have with each other and driving many of these hard-working undocumented people further into the shadows with the specter of tomorrow's raids. it's callous, cruel, unconscionable, and it's happening in the united states of america. perish the thought. >> again, the video that came into us on friday of the vice president visiting two of the detention centers, one of which we've been trying to understand from all of our backgrounds in terms of what it means and where we're at. raul rays, jill wine-banks, fernand, three of the best. coming up, more on the new york city power outage. all money managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios
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breaking news to tell you about. it's a power outage and we're not talking about the gulf of mexico. we're talking about in manhattan in new york city where there is a blackout under way right now. nearly 20,000 customers without service at the moment. the new york city fire department says they are responding to multiple calls of people stuck in elevators in manhattan. joining me now, msnbc live weekend anchor kendis gibson. just manhattan alone. >> just montana alone. >> 1.5 million people that are
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exposed to such situations. we've got the largest subway system in the country right now. some of them stranded potentially as well. >> we're not sure what to make of the situation right now. it all happened -- did you notice before 7:00 where we could hear it here a loud boom, and then the next moment the building took a hit. many of the lights throughout our studio, in fact, went out. we started working on generators here. but a lot of people on the upper west side definitely noticed it. people traveling on subways noticed. the subways and tunnels are dark. lincoln center, of course, the famed performing arts center has been evacuated. many, many movie theaters on the upper west side of manhattan. 20,000 customers without power. think about that for a second. that is very dense city of manhattan. that might be 20,000 customers, there may be four people per
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every customer that con edison has. thousands of people at a minimum are impacted by this. there are no traffic lights for several blocks, possibly as much as two miles throughout manhattan right now. the nypd is right now trying to direct traffic throughout the city. not exactly sure why this might have taken place. the temperatures were in the 80s here in new york city. it has been hot for quite a bit of time. richard, i do want to bring you the unbelievable irony of this. 42 years ago, 1977, today, the great blackout took place here in new york. you see some of the images there from that where millions were put into darkness for more than 24 hours. completely ironic this has taken place some 42 years to the day that took place. we're still not sure exactly what is happening right now in new york city. mta, the transportation system, they're trying to get out there
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to figure out who may be trapped inside of the subway tunnels at this hour. we are told by the fire department here in new york that there are definitely several people who are stuck in elevators all throughout the city. it is very, very troubling at this hour. >> kendis, we have a picture from times square, which is often a good icon of light, of electricity. and we just wanted to take a look at this picture to show you first of all what kendis is reporting. first of all, traffic at this hour, 7:37 local, typical, but we are seeing more flashing lights,er go, potentially ambulances, potentially police. on the left side, only because we know these spaces here, kendis, we can see there are a couple of billboards not fully lit. on the lower right side, also another billboard not fully lit. whether it's associated with this power outage, unknown, but
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consistent with what you've been saying. it seems to be scattered. but in the manhattan area, midtown manhattan area, which is where we're at, 30 rock located smack-dab as we like to believe sometimes, i think, right here on 49th and 50th, between 6th and 7th, if you know where that is. of course, it is that place that every winter has that ice rink for those of you who have visited manhattan before. right now we don't have power. >> we do have power. >> do not plug in anything into the socket because it ain't going to work. unless it's attached to the generators that flicked on immediately. >> i will admit that i had placed my hair drier on and then all of a sudden, boom, the lights went out. but it is striking to look at that image of times square. for people who are a little older and may remember the trl days, that building that is cast and dark there in the middle of the left -- >> right here. >> that's where the t"trl" you'e
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come out of so many years ago. normally that building would be lit up. it would normally be lit up. so that might be an indication of that. you see the fire department forces who are out there trying to figure out what just happened here in manhattan. so a lot of people trying to figure out what's going on. >> you know who those people are? a lot of tourists, this is being the city to visit in america. on that left-hand side where they have the grand stand, if you peer really closely at home, you can see the bandstand, we had 50 million folks that come through new york each and every year. you got a story now. if you are in new york city, you can take the story home and say guess what we avoided the gulf coast because we knew stuff was going to happen. but in this case, again, of course, barring any sort of injury, and we hope that
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everybody is safe as we go through this, it is certainly a day to have a story. you bringing up that historical date 42 years ago. >> yeah. this is my shot of just walking through the building here at 30 rock and just completely amazed. >> that screen is normally on. >> the doors automatically closed on all of us. there was an interesting phenomenon that was taking place in manhattan today. not to sound really local here with this, but it might be the reason why a lot of people actually were outdoors. there's called manhattan hench, when the buildings of manhattan, it's a grid, line up with the sunset. and usually on a day like this, it happens twice a year, this being one of them. a lot of people will go out near sunset to kind of watch as the buildings line up. so there were a lot of people who were definitely out on the street trying to take advantage of that at the time and probably unaware of what was going on inside. all of that said, i'm getting
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the reports from the mta, the transportation department and they're saying several new york city subway stations are shut down right now. you might think that's the weekend, that's normal. mta has issues. no, they're shut down because of the electrical problems they're having. new york fire department, police department, con edson, the local utility company, right now they're not saying what has caused this blackout. as we've been speaking, that number of people who are impacted has gone up. and i do expect it to continue to go up because seems to be a lot of customers from midtown to the upper west side. >> we have video from outside if you want to see it from what folks are seeing. at the moment there's our sign. fud that sign is never off, if you will. this is what has been affecting
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this area of new york city in manhattan. you're talking about manhattan hinge. one of the things that did align today, it is one of those things as you look at sunset about to happen in 40 minutes, 50 minutes, when that does happen, if this power outage here in manhattan -- again, it's a historic power outage, if we understand what is happening. it has not happened in over four decades that we've seen this in manhattan, electricity always on. 8:27 is the local sunset time. that's when folks will be saying, hey, where is the electricity? >> yeah, i'm getting seeing some reports here from my local assemblyman saying according to nypd, the power outage was called a manhole explosion on the west side of manhattan, and crews are right now trying to get that fixed. it explains a lot because a lot
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of friends on the upper west side heard a loud boom and the lights went out. it has gone on for more than an hour. we'll see how long it does last, richard. >> yeah. this is consistent. we have an update here, looking at what a.p. is saying, it's left a lot of businesses on a saturday like here during the summer, they're all working hard and they want those receipts and those cash registers to go going off. the rock center, which is where we're at, as well as far north as the upper west side that goes up quite a distance through to the west side of central park if you're familiar with that. as we talk about this extended area that the reports are coming in on, that, of course, means the numbers we're at right now, 27,000, which is up by about 7,000 from our initial reports. it may increase based on what we're seeing from the reports. a diner on broadway at west 69th
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lost its lights, as did some other surrounding businesses. we're getting these anecdotes coming to us in midtown manhattan. we're going to keep an eye on this. i know my good friend kendis gibson, if we are watching this and if the sockets still work, he's going to be here live at 8:00 p.m. with his reporting on this. >> i can tell you what's not working, the air conditioning in the building. >> that hair drier of yours, come on, my friend. you got to fix that. thanks for coming in to help us with the story. just into us here at msnbc am we'll keep an eye on that. after the break we'll get back to what's happening in the gulf coast. that, of course, is tropical storm barry. stick around. barry. stick around -their béarnaise sauce here is the best in town.
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senior city official telling us with direct knowledge of the matter through tom winter from our investigations team that this was caused by a transformer fire. we're going to continue to look into this and keep you updated. we're also watching tropical storm barry as it does cross through the gulf coast. power outages have been the store there. michelle grossman, our meteorologist, is with us. without giving you the numbers, texas still seeing an increase over time. tennessee as well. also seeing a spike in power outages there. as you have been telling us, it could get worse only because we have a lot of rain in the upcoming couple of days here. >> that's right. we're going to have the wind and also the rain. the bad news is we're nearing sunset. so we never want that, especially with water on the ground. it's stagnant, we could see some contamination, so stay off the
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roadways. please be careful tonight into tomorrow. this is going to be at least the next 36 hours we're watching this. really until the end of the week when it it's this northeast with the remnants of what will be barry at the time. right now we're looking at the current current stats. 45 miles south southwest of alexandria. it did move a little bit. it has decreased in terms of wind speed. 60 miles an hour has increased. the latest is at eight miles per hour. we want to it move a little faster but it is a slow moving storm. the darker colors, the yellows, the oranges, really at the coast at this point being the heaviest rain. we're seeing the circulation. it has been an odd storm from the start. some very heavy rain to the south of it. we're not seeing the circulation we typically do but it is filling in a bit. we'll see the bands continue to
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fill in. here is the track for tropical storm barry. we are looking at a very slow-moving storm. we're looking at a huge storm. lots of water with this and the possible for some life threatening flash flooding. so here we go as we go throughout time at 1:00. we're still in louisiana. not until the northern part of alexandria until late monday. it will move into the tennessee valley, the ohio valley and the northeast. the big weather headline for this storm continues to be the rain, the flooding rains and the life threatening flash flooding rains. we are just starting this. this is setting the stage for the next 36 hours. we'll see some pretty extreme pictures over the next few days. the flash flood watchful that's where you're looking at the green. memphis, toop lowe, hattiesberg, mobile, biloxi and even down to alexandria. a lot of states involved west
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did have a warning in biloxi and mobile that has been lifted. if we see the training starting once again, it is possible through monday. we're not talking tonight. not tomorrow. through monday. this is a long event. please be patient with this and please let it run its course. we like to show this because we like to show the banding. this storm started in kansas. it moves to the south. such a strange path. it churned up some energy. it collected the moisture and it is moving to the north and dropping that moisture. the winds right now, not too bad. we're looking at 10 to 20 to 30 miles an hour. we could see additional power outages and those are the pictures we'll see over the next few days. what stood out for you? i'm reading a little bit of this that just came in this hour from
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noaa, really watching the organization that watches hurricanes. barry continues moving inland over southern louisiana. they said dangerous storm surge continuing across the north central gulf coast and this is it. heavy rains and life threatening flooding expected to flood northward across the lower mississippi valley. what stood out to you with this advisory that just came in? >> it moved inland. it made landfallier this afternoon. we have the storm surge starting to recede. it will get pushed into the gulf. >> thank you so much. i appreciate that. to the other breaking news story we have for you this hour. the extensive power outage in new york city. the number growing in the last 15 minutes. 38,000. 15 minutes ago it was 27,000. 20,000 before that. and of course we're watching as more information is coming in to
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con edison. they are watching the numbers. joining us by phone, msnbc producer casey dolan. we didn't have a lot of information when this first came down. the only information that we had, for instance here at 30 rockefeller plaza, here at nbc news and msnbc studios, the lights went out. >> yeah. the lights went out. it was about two or three blocks. the lights went out. the air conditioning, the fire marshal got on the phone. we came out here in the theater district. supposed to go to a show at 8:00. you have hundreds if not thousands of us. i was waiting at the off broadway show at new world stages and everyone was gathered
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outside and it looked like that when you look out. it's light and people are wondering, what's going on? will the theater be interrupt and dinner plans? >> what about police, firefighters. do you see any more activity? >> definitely seeing it go by. i would not say skin. with the corporate restaurants and bars, you see the heightened security. making sure everyone is okay. i don't know if you can hear the fire truck go by. a heightened presence but calm.
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>> all right. thank you for doing that and reporting there from the theater district here in the midtown manhattan area. we have a live picture coming from times square. as sunset comes upon us here, locally about 30 minutes, you can get a sense. there are some places that have gone black. because of the power outage, according to the person who spoke with the senior city official, that there was a transformer fire that could have caused this. the number up in the last minute, 38,000. let's go to the new york city council speaker. is that what we're hearing? a transformer fire? >> yeah, on west frinlt street at hell's kitchen, in the district that i represent, there
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is a con edison substation there that helps feed power to that neighborhood. what i'm told, i just got off the been to the ceo of con ed. there is a major disturbance. it is a full emergency response to try to identify what the issue is. the reports i'm getting is that from the west 40s, west 42nd street adjacent to times square all the way into the west 70s, standing 30 blocks on the west side, there is this power outage. and con ed has now mobilized their emergency response center to try to figure out what has gone on. >> speaker, what was the tone that you got from con edison? you spoke that what the cause might be. did they give you any other detail? >> no. they're trying to identify what the issue is.
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they are just on the scene about 20, 25 minutes ago. the ceo was just getting to the emergency response center. so i asked them to keep me updated with more information as it became available but they didn't have specifics on what that looked like. >> they described it to you as an incident. what is an incident, people might ask, as soon as they hear that. >> it is hard to know. i don't want to pretend like i am an expert in this. trying to get accurate information to send out to the public. and as soon as i get any more information from con edison or the city agency, i'll keep passing that along. at the kitchen, the upper west side, the times square area, there are tens of thousands and businesses without power. so we want to make sure everyone is safe. especially anyone with a medical issue or a senior. we want to make sure everyone
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gets the help they need. >> of course the concern here. this being manhattan in new york city. not only the very high number, as you know, of residents here. over 1.5 million just in the manhattan bu manhattan burrough. is there anything specific? >> no. i haven't heard anything yet. there are multiple subway lines that have not been able to run the subway cars. so those lines are the a line, the c line, on the same line. the local as well as the s, the m and the d as in david. those five lines currently cars are sitting in the subway stations. i'm told a few subway stations have lost power inside the station. but the one train, the two train and the three train which also
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serve the west side and manhattan and runs along broadway for a big section of it. those trains are running local currently so there is some movement via those subway lines on the west side. >> i want to bring in my friend. picking up courage here, one or two breaking stories and you were telling us some of the details. >> it has been a very, very busy afternoon and a very busy last couple of hours. for us, i'm going to skip the jacket because the air conditioning is not working in our studio. a situation that many people in manhattan are dealing with. speaker, if you're still with us? >> i'm here. >> this is at msnbc world headquarters in new york as we come on the air at 8:00 eastern in new york. to remind people of what's going on, there appears to be a massive blackout in new york city.
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