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a moment that piqued our collective curiosity about what else might be out there. apollo's rocket will be pointing toward the heavens just as it did back in 1969. call consist us all to seek answers in the great beyond. and that is all for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press" daily and the beat with ari melber" starts right now. >> live in washington where there has been an absolutely scorched earth and raucous debate on the house in floor today over formally rebuking trump's go back attack. a federal judge has banned roger stone from social media and news on the doj's handling against the officer who killed eric garner. we begin with breaking news. at any moment tonight, the united states house of representatives will begin formally voting on condemning the sitting president for "racist attacks on four women of color who serve in the house of
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representatives." this is not normal. this is not another day in 2019. this is a boiling point. one sign of that is the democrats joining ranks to stand up to this particular attack when he has launched so many. another is the vote republicans just forced moments ago. they didn't offer a compromise resolution or off-ramp. they threw out a symbolic grenade of going after speaker pelosi because she called donald trump's attack racist. they cited a rule that members are not formally allowed to disparage the president on the house floor and used that press debt, if you will, to try to remove her words from the congressional record. that vote failed nearly entirely along party lines. house republicans knew it would fail. why am i telling you about this news? because this is worth recognizing this is the state after fairs right now in washington and in america. rather than even deal with the
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president's words, many, not all, but many house republicans would rather wage a parliamently war of attrition to try to silence speaker he will pel to take the words out of her mouth as far as the historical record is concerned. pelosi is push 0 for the full house to condemn trump's racist invocation of this troep against the four members of congress. >> these comments from the white houses are disgraceful and disgusting and racist. how shameful to hear him defend those offensive words, words we have all heard him repeat about not only our members but countless others. every member of this institution should join us in condemning the president's race just tweets. >> the speaker's deploying her control of the house floor to force the choice on republicanses. 30 some republicans publicly criticizing trump's comments.
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the party's leaders have not. >> were the president's tweets that said go back racist? >> no. >> marrieded to an immigrant who is a naturalized u.s. citizen. if someone said to her go back to her country because of her criticism of federal policies, wouldn't you consider that a racist attack? >> well, the secretary of transportation came here at age 8 legally, not speaking a word of english and realized the american dream. >> was it racist saying go back to their country? >> legal immigration has been a fulfilling of the american dream. my wife's a good example of that. >> you stopped short of calling his comments racist. >> the president is not a racist. the president is not a racist. >> senator mcconnell felt the pressure to finally today take some of those questions but apparently not enough pressure or motivation or whatever to actually draw any line against the president who himself said yesterday he is fine with white
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nationalists agreeing with what he said. a contrast to civil rights icon u.s. congressman june lewis who made this powerful argument today. >> what what he said and what he continues to say is racist. it is racism. you cannot hide it, you cannot sweep it under the american rugging. > i'm joined for our special coverage as the house prepares this vote with juanita toliver, jason johnson from the root, and bbc washington anchor catty kay. we are moments from the vote that now has been slightly delayed but will occur to rebuke the sitting president. what are americans to make of this one could say, well, there are many days where you could take something the president has said or done and devote the time on the house floor, but that doesn't mean there is no significance to putting this on the record for history. >> absolute significance in getting this on the record. the republicans reaction to all of this is a clear marker where
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they stand and what their values are in in demonstration and the fact we have a president who is fine with white nationalists agreeing with him says a lot. this is a man who called very fine people on both sides after charlottesville and called african nations s hole countries. leading the charge with the birtherism against previous president barack obama. there's nothing new as a woman of color i'm seeing. the weak reaction from gop members is startling. i think also their reaction to speaker pelosi even calling the president racist and his comments racist on the house floor is a signifying moment as we wait for the vote to happen. i'm not sure we'll get any republicans to sign on to this resolution. >> probably not. i don't already care that the president of the united states is a racist. he's not the first racist
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president we've had and will not be the last. what concerns me going forward for the democrats recent you can get all this energy together and we can condemn the president of the united states but what about in the next two or three weeks? if you agree the president of the united states is motivated by racial animus that says some people are lesser than white people and other people do not have a right to be active in commerce and everything like that, that should frame every other policy that comes out of this white house forever more. everything that comes out of this administration should be viewed as this is probably racist policy and therefore, we shouldn't agree with it. unless they're willing to make that change ideologically, it's a bunch of nonsense. >> neal katyal we usually have on as a legal expert opening up about what we're hearing from so many americans which is the history you can read or the lived experience which you have to listen to learn how thesetropes are thrown around. take a look.
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>> i don't talk personally on your show much but anyone who has brown skin hears these comments all the time. for it started when i was 3 years old when my mom was pulling out of the car and pulling out of the driveway and someone knocked on her door and said go back to your country. my mom laughed. that was her response, utter sheer laughter. but i think this is different because this is of course, not some rando on the street, but the president of the united states. >> you heard it again, as well this afternoon from another member of the administration when kellyanne conway asked a reporter what's your ethnicity? >> what was that? wow. >> i don't quite know what is going on in the white house at the moment but it seems ethnicity, race, religion, the group you come from unless you come from one particular group anglo saxon, christian group, then members of this administration feel that it's okay at the moment to question
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whether where you came from and the subliminal message, it's the obvious, not even a dog whistle, it's very clear. message is somehow that is less than everybody else. this is not the only country where you hear ha message. i've heard friends of mine hob have come from other countries originally, the same thing happens to them in the united kingdom. go back to your own country. it happens all over the world. if you are not part of the group that feels it has the right and privilege to be there, then you should go back home. that's what's racist about there. >> you wanted to speak to the kellyanne incident. >> it is clearly a blatant display of her following the lead of trump. something we'll see a lot more from other white house staffers who come out in front of the cameras normalizing these things of racism throughout their interactions with the media and america. >> she didn't say it once, she carried on saying it again.
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>> put that in the context of what people are seeing at home right now. if you look at your headline on the screen, the republicans trying to rebuke speaker pelosi for condemning racism, not trump, that is the doubling down. that is different than silence however moral little objectionable many find silence, that's what's happening right now. >> that's happening right now. the fact that the republican party is now carrying trump's mantle, carrying the water for him in congress says a lot about what's at stake in the next round of elections. >> we've been doing this for years. when the black guy got elected it was open season. this is not shocking. > i would fact check you on that a little bit. >> about what? >> double fact check. i'm glad we can still laugh a little bit on a night like this. the sentiment was clearly there. >> yeah. >> the chatter as they put it in intelligence circles was there. >> yeah. >> but the lid in a lot of the
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traditional conservative establishment was still on it. >> right. >> and people like john mccain who has a mixed record on all sorts of issues and who may have opposed a martin luther king holiday and i'm not whitewashing, i use the term deliberately, history, but when obama was president and mccain was running against him he did not reach into that. if anything he pushed back. there is a difference. >> here's the thing, he think it is only a difference in degree but not experience. i can say this as a black person. kind of hostility we saw on the ground become normalized in conversation because obama got in office is just on ten with trump. if i hate black people, i can use policy as an excuse tocrit size barack obama when it boils down to the fact i hate him and i hate his wife and i hit his kids. >> that's where there's space between the conversation we're having which has great nuance. what you're saying is not so
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much it was all out there blaring the way it is today, but that a historical understanding of the energy of say parts of the tea party or the deficit movement when you look at where the energy is now looks worse? >> it looks worse. i think what has happened is it was believed when obama was in office, look, i go to cpac and nra stuff all the time. the problem was people didn't believe you could win with it because it was just as nasty. the memes were just as nasty with obama but they didn't think you could win now that donald trump has win, now i don't have to pretend anymore. that makes it more dangerous for every single person. i say this because it's key. white nationalism what's being driven bill this administration hurts white people, too. i don't think enough white americans understand this is going to hurt them. >> i hate to quote kanye in this conversation. >> goodness. >> probably disagree when it comes to trump. >> but actually because he's on
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trump's side here. he's on trump's side here. >> ari, what are we doing to you? >> should i leave? >> if i go, can you guys handle it? >> you don't like trump anymore. >> he could say things in his poetry historically that may be different than his politics today. >> this is true. >> racism still alive, they just be concealing it. there was to your point a period where con seeing your saying was in the political interest of the national party and now it's not. i want to play for katty kay, anthony scaramucci who briefly ran white house communications can a defender of the president for whatever reason now, this has hit his breaking point and he uses the word racist. take a listen. >> he's blowing very hard on a dog whistle that every ethnic group that's landed in the united states has had to hear. i don't see the president as a
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racist but here's the thing. if you continue to say and act in that manner, then we all have to look at him and say okay, well, maybe you weren't a racist but now you're turning into one. i mean, what are you doing exactly? >> anthony yesterday on the bc, he said the same thing. right, this does seem to have pushed him. he was at a time when there were even fewer republicans than there are right now coming out and saying anything critical of the president, he actually said the president needed therapy and this was something deep in this president. >> we all need therapy. >> you know what we need? we need a very long vacation. >> i almost there to medicalize is to risk letting him off the hook. it's more than needs therapy. this is someone who actually took the job running the president's communications. maybe you weren't a racist. that's the charitable part but now "you're turning into one." these are donald trump's own defenders. >> you go back to birtherism.
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i don't know if you have to say you're turning into one because as you were just pointing out, it was always there. the key to what donald trump today, you read the stream of tweets, there's one phrase that struck me was i'll see new 2020. that gets back to this idea this is now an electoral asset. i remember speaking to republican strategists at the beginning of trump's administration. the one thing they said trump supporters really liked about the president was when he railed against anything that was politically correct. in that bracket is race, it's also about gender, and that is the thing that gets his support others going. his other republicans have also now felt as you say that that's okay, that being anti-political correctness, being talking in lacist language, being sexist, all of those things are now political assets and not political detractors. that is new. >> that echoes the point jason made and goes to where the political energy is in the war he wants which is a challenge
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for everyone engaged in civil society. if you go home and say i'm done with it, but if you're engaging in civil society as a citizen, as a voter, as a journalist or in politics, have to decide when do you fight this fight and when do you pivot and say he's had enough time dividing people that way. i want to look at live pictures of the house with the news breaking. we're looking at on the floor the debate. we are moving towards a scheduled vote tonight on what democrats say is an important and historic line they're drawing in the sand. that vote scheduled to happen within our hour. we'll bring it to you live. it has been ferocious on the floor. republicans not giving an inch. the rhetoric meeting the policy. donald trump not only using this language but trying to limit human rights protections on the border. later, a judge rebuking roger stone in court today for breaking a gag order. and then do you remember the tape of the officer caught using
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there is no place anywhere for the president's words which are not only did i advicive but dangerous and have legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new americans and people of color. >> speaker pelosi rebuking donald trump's go back attack today as the nation is scrutinizing more widely donald trump's controversial appeals to ethnic purity. >> this is about keeping, you know, make america, you know this hat? make america white again. >> what trump meant by that is let's make america 1956 again. >> make america white again. >> this business about make america great again, it is your president dividing this country. >> make america great again as au euphemism for make america white again. >> we heard this during the '60s when little children were trying to desegregate schools. we're not going back. we're here to stay. >> congressman lewis fought
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against. white protesters shouting at black children to be go back where they came from. they came from here. this rhetoric was backed by the policy of segregation. lewis says "we're not going back to that," as the nation reflects what trump means and what is he doing, it's important to understand this isn't confined to "just words." trump is pushing policies that tell people to go back where they came from like this new rule this week curbing human rights protections for people seeking asylum and fleeing torture. just like trump campaigned on making america christian again proposing banning muslims instituting a travel ban that grew out of that proposal or in 2016 when trump was on the campaign trail at a certain point, when you looked at the birtherism and muslim ban and the rhetoric, there were people who said is this really happening? well, trump has launched his re-election campaign on these
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words and policies. it's time for people to come to grips with it out in the open. this is happening. i am joined by michael steele. a man, government experience who also ran the republican party in a different era. >> it's good to see you, aere. >> what do you think is important on the policy side? donald trump talks this way and then what is he doing running the country? >> well, they are very much two different things in some respects. but there is the sort of the reinforcement of that hot rhetoric through some of the policies as you noted from immigration to health care to other issues that really impact people day in and day out. as we heard during the big debate on the tax cut, that a lot of the people who would not benefit from this tax cut interestingly enough were people who fervently support the president. so in one twisted sense, a lot of this hot rhetoric that seems
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to be aimed at you know minorities men and women of color, seems to have as equally if not sometimes disproportionate impact on the very consumers of trumpism that support him. so that for me is a very interesting sort of narrative to watch play out, ari, particularly at this time. there are a lot of white americans of donald trump's age who remember a time that when you said go back to where you came from and certainly a lot of african-americans know exactly what was meant. so there's no mixing what this rhetoric means at this time and how it impacts not just communities of color but also white folks. >> i think that's all well put. as we're speaking here, michael, 6:23 p.m. in washington here on capitol hill, they have gabbed in the beginning of this vote. it was as i mentioned in my broadcast delayed by an effort
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to strike words from speaker pelosi in a party line vote ha failed. now the house is holding this vote. we're seeing the tabs, tabulations quite early. we all know how this works. 400 plus member, the yeas in the high 30s and ticking their way up as we have technically 15 minutes although sometimes they hold it open longer for these votes. we're going to see that be put on the record. what in your view will that mean if it goes as expected party line that the democrats have said yes he's said many things over these weeks and months but this one we're making republicans in the house take that vote, as well. >> yeah, it's going to get a little bit ticklish for republican who are in purple districts or even blue districts how they land on this vote. this is the political chess board that's being played out by nancy pelosi who is saying, all right you want to back this guy? put your name behind that. put your vote on the table
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behind that. one way or the other. and so how the consumers, how you and i, your audience and the people of this country read this moment is airbly important. see, i look at the drama and i see trump doing the bright shiny thing, throwing it down rabbit holes, the media is writing these stories. what are the american people taking away from this? how deep are they will involved in the idea that this man, this person in the oval office is saying things and doing things in their name that is representing them? and so those attitudes that people hold leather conform to what the president's doing or they'll reject it. this is the first step i think the democrats are going to be taking to call this right to the attention of the american people to see is this really what you want. your representative either supports it or he doesn't. that's the first part of the ticking clock i think. >> the other thing that was really something that i think
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has become the pointy edge of this which is almost unanswerable if you want to be charitable or obvious, if you've reach your judgment about this president, is searching the mind and heart of this individual. he's been all over the place in his political. >> why would you do that? >> right? exactly. but we just played before the break, when you have his own people like scaramucci saying well, i got to admit he says now it looks like he's racist. and mitch mcconnell saying as a person he's not racist. you get foot metaphysical debate and lot of folks saying obviously you can see in the words and deeds what has happened. listen to some of the sound dug up, nicolle wallace was using this earlier today where you have earlier donald trump. he may have changed his position allegedly on abortion, on gun rights, on all kinds of these other issues and yet back in the day, he would go in all sorts of
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forums from central park five on and really drop the hammer on these divisive racial issues. take a look. >> okay. >> they don't look like indians to me, sir. >> thank god that's not the test of whether or not people have rights in this country or not whether or not they pass your look test. >> do you know in the history of this country where we've heard this discussion before? they don't look jewish to me. >> really. >> they don't look end yand or italian to me. >> uh-huh. >> and that was a test whether people could go into business north go into business, whether they could get a bank loan, you're too black, you're not black enough. >> i want to find out. you're approving for indian. why don't you approve it for everybody then? >> what is your view of the utility of as i mentioned that search of what donald trump was? >> you know, you see that. you get a sense of orientation.
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you know because look, this is a guy who came into people's living rooms. he was a show man. he was the p.t. barnum of his age. he made reality tv the thing to watch to be a part of it. it connected with our communities. so we never saw these other sides. we didn't know his family history. we weren't aware of the role his dad played in certain types of politics in this country that was not favorably disposed towards jews and african-americans. we didn't know or put in context his view on the central park five and his housing policy as a landowner. a landlord. and now as president, it's coming out. and so these past moments these vignettes mep us contextize in a sense who the man is. what we discover is, okay, this has been here for a while. this is not anything new. which is again why i think it connects so readily with a lot of people, ari, because these
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are feelings and emotions harbored by a lot of americans. we think we're post racial and elected a black man president. we've doesn't him thing, we're cool, we're good. we're not. there's still a lot of seeds that are fermenting in this race issue that donald trump waters in moments like this. and i think that's where it comes back to us whether or not we want to expel those seeds from our good soil that american soil or do we want them to take root as they once did in our history and we go into that cycle all over again. >> and i'm curious, given the life you have lived here, i mean, you were the chairman of the republican party at the dawn of the obama era. >> yeah. >> there was an echo at that moment, it might be easy to forget as we look at the house floor holding this vote to condemn what is written into the house resolution as racist
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remarks by the president of the united states. but that was a different democratic party that chose you to be a standard bearer at that time. >> i don't hold any illusions about the selection process both the admiral components of that as well as the nod so admirable components of that. this is the counter narrative to a barack obama. the test became for the party are you ready to do what takes to actually put meat on bones of the words that you use when you talk about we want to broaden our tent, we want to expand our relationship with communities of color, we want to have a conversation. when i go off to harlem my first week on the job and people are saying why are you going to har lep, my response is because that's where the votes are are. that's where our future is. we need to be there. and the resistance to that became more and more palpable. you could see there's this tug within the body politic inside
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the gop with those who want to be expansive, inclusive and opening of doors and those who think no, we need to build walls. no, we need to make it harder for people to ma electric an cue late here. >> let me read a couple of headlines, as well because the other big shift with all of this is sort of what do you do? that's not just i want to be clear on race. i think donald trump breaks many, many values, norms and rules. so traditionally, there's been debates about different presidents lying and not telling it the truth. that's an old story. but "the washington post" and others have meticulously documented this president habitually tells falsehoods and lies more than anyone. folks who used to say gosh, we're pot as quick in the press or even in politics to say that something is a lie, it was a big deal when someone yelled at president obama "you lie," in that case it was wrong but also it was the notion that the president gets traditionally
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more room unless they ruin it. look at some of these headlines on this issue of equality and race where you have the charlotte observer saying to republicans are you okay with a "racist president"? >> in kentucky, gop silent in the face of racist go back tweet. in arizona, if you can't condemn trump's race just tweets, we can no longer be friends. the l. a. times, these are papers from around the country, some southern, some western, the la times says trump is truly america's bigot in chief. what is the significance of the rules sort of shifting in what is said about this president? do you think that's broadly constructive or does it head us towards 2020 with everyone deep in their camps? >> i? >> i think people are deep in their camps. no doubt about that. that's where i think trump wants everybody to be. the playground plays better for him when everyone's entrenched in their particular corner of that playground because you know
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where they are. and you know how to excite them to get them to move out into a space where you can engage with them. the one thing i've been saying for quite some time on this very point, why do we continue to play this game as if donald trump is a conventional president of the united states? he is not george bush. he's not barack obama. he's not romd reagan. he's not any of the 44 predecessors to that office. he's not. and yet, the president, the media, politicians, the parties still treat him as if he is. and what he's doing is playing ans a symmetrical game in which you don't know whether he's going to come from the left, the right, the up, the down. at memoment he's going to tell you the sky is blue and then what you and say i didn't say that. stop playing the game in a conventional way. play its a symmetrically with
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him. then in that moment, you're on equal footing because then you become unpredictable to him. that's one of the features that nancy pelosi has figured that out in the way she's approached some of -- she's not doing the obvious. oh, impeach him. it rubs him raw that he's not playing that card right now because that's one less thing donald trump can pick at. it's one less thing he can go after. the more you take off the table for him to go after, the stronger your position. and you've got to stop chasing all those things down rabbit holes because some of these stories are not worth following. it's not worth tweeting about. it's not worth even talking about because when you do, you're playing hiss a symmetrical game. >> former rnc chairman michael steele, he an expert we draw on for many stories including this rolling debate. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thanks, ari.
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>> thank you, sir. let me reset a little bit where we are at 6:34 p.m. in washington. you're watching the beet"the be ari melber"". we are witnessing something unusual. the president says and does many things. what you're watching on the who is floor is significant because is somewhat unusual. it is one arm of government holding an official vote to sanction effectively another arp of government. in this case, the president, the commander in chief. i could tell you that the preliminary vote count we have doesn't usually tell us much because who votes later in the order is not ordained in any particular way but with that caveat in mind, this vote right now is winning not losing. it's 126-107 to condemn the president's "racist attacks." there's been a lot of an prop briiam ever since donald trump attacked those four duly elected women of color telling them to
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go back when most of them are from here. as part of that coverage, we have new sound from the civil rights icon and congressman june lewis. before our next debate, take a listen. >> i know racism when i see it. i know racism when i feel it. and at the highest level of government, there's no room for racism. some of us have been victims of the stain, the pain and the hurt of racism. with this vote, we need a moral obligation to condemn, hate, racism and bigotry. world is watching. >> a very powerful and clearly emotive congressman john lewis on house floor. that was some of the last bit of the debate we heard before this formal voting began. i can tell you as i mentioned at the top of the show, senator amy klobuchar is joining me shortly.
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i want to turn back to juanita toliver watching this unfold with me here in our washington studios as we look at this floor vote. there's not much you can make of the early count but it is a widely expected to be a party line vote and the democrats here with 100 plus, 142 moving towards this resolution. what does it mean to you? >> definitely following along party lines based on reactions from the gop when the tweets first cape out, it's par for the course. we have one republican voting to really hold the president accountable with this resolution and so i'm not surprised by that. i definitely hope that there are more that emerge that have the backbone to be stand up to this, hold their values for this nation true and really meet that moral obligation to call out racism because speaker he will pel hit the nail on the head earlier when she said voting against this resolution is oobdy indicating that responsibility a responsibility that all americans should take seriously,
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especially elected officials. >> viewers who are eagle eyed will notice at the bottom of your screen we're hitting triple owes in terms of parliamentary procedure. that does not mean much of anything. there's the 15 minutes automatically allotted but big votes are often held open. what we have now is the preliminary count, 1567-131. we're waiting on clearly a lot more members of congress. we expect them to hold this vote hope, hold the time open to get more votes to come in. it won't be official till there's more votes and it's gaveled in. senator klobuchar joining me shortly. wau knee ta, how do you apply what michael steele called the asymmetric approach to trump? in yesterday's press conference, you had vision of these four duly elected members of congress rebutting and defending themselves and saying this is a distraction. >> they also got it right too because what does trump do best? he is a weak president who has
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been ineffective and he doesn't have anything to show for his presidency. so he creates chaos. he turns to twitter to really get people riled up and distracted from the reality he's done nothing for the american public. this is something they got right when they called it out yesterday. ayanna pressley repeatedly said don't take the bait. the other thing i want to flag is the note that the jason johnson made earlier. this is an opportunity for democrats to draw the through line that racist beliefs beget raci racist policies and hold the president accountable for every policy that follows since the public is captivated by the fact that trump is getting through these racist tweets. >> there is an unfolding story on the house floor. as promised i turn to u.s. senator and 2020 candidate amy klobuchar. thanks for joining me tonight. >> thank you. thanks, ari. >> on this breaking story and your colleagues in the
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householding this vote what, does it mean to you? >> well, i think the points just made were incredibly right on. this is something the president brought us to because he has deliberately put out these racial tweets. there is absolutely no doubt about it. he basically is saying now in writing to people who are american citizens who are members of congress go back to where you came from. and by the way, what does that mean? i'll tell what you it means. there's a little girl in minnesota who went out to dinner with her parents a year ago or so during the height of the trump rhetoric. and they were out there, they're somali. a guy walked by, the parents told me the story and said you four go home. you go home to where you came from. and the little girl looked up at her mom and says mom, i don't want to go home and eat. you said we could eat out tonight. i think of the words of that innocent child. she only knows one home, my state. she only knows one home, that's
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her country. when he sent that tweet out, that's what he was saying and that's what some of the people that listen to him are saying because he's saying it. so that's why i think it's important that this resolution happen but at the same time, i just want to emphasize these points. he wants us to talk about this. we have to take a stand but then we have to take a stand on something else. and that there home run broken promises all over the carpeting of that oval office that he has made to the people of this country. i talked about him today about what i want to do in my first 100 days. pharmaceutical prices shooting up. nothing going on with infrastructure when people can't even drink the water in some cities in this country. that's broken promises. that's what people are talking about in their everyday lives as much as he wants to claim he's going to do raids and send out tweets whenever he wants, we have to make sure we have an optimistic economic agenda for this country. that's how we win. >> you mentioned that and there's also the battle with
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your the guy in charge calf your senate, mitch mcconnell which is something we were looking at when we were prepping for this interview and, of course, was appearing to avoid wanting to take much of a position on the president's remarks. you and other democrats have been battling with him. i want to play a little bit of that. >> if someone were to say to her she should go back to her country because of her criticism of federal policies, wouldn't consider that i an racist attack. >> well, the secretary of transportation came here at age 8 legally not speaking a word of english and has realized the american dream. >> was it racist for him to say go back to your country? >> as i said, legal immigration has been a fulfilling of the american dream. >> would you ever use the words go back to where you came from? >> look, i'm obviously a big fan of legal immigration. i'm a big fan of legal immigration. the president is not a racist.
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the president is not a racist. i think the tone of all of this is not good for the country. from the president to the speaker to freshman members of the house, all of us have a responsibility to elevate the public discourse. across the etiological spectrum in the country, all across it, everyone, ought to tone down their rhetoric. >> that's the way senator mcconnell has been talking about which we've been discussing. i also think we do have some of your history. i want to play that, as well and give you time to tie it all together. >> wow. >> i'm told we don't have it. i'm not going to do an amy klobuchar impression because i don't know how. for the sake of viewers, it was some of what you've done in the past which is try to call mitch mcconnell to account and criticize him and say at times you don't think apart from your ideological disagreements you don't think he's run the senate
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in a forthright and fair manner. i give your time to speak back to any or all of the above. >> first of all, i think you have to call out racism when you see it. he refused to do that and that is very wrong. you have a republican congressman in the house from texas who actually said it and he voted that way today. secondly, i think one of the biggest problems for the american people right now is that we're not able to get things done. the house has passed things that would help people. they have passed things to keep dark money out of our politics. the house has passed gun safety legislation. it is bills that are just sitting in a graveyard outside of mitch mcconnell's door. i think that is one of the major problems in addition to the president that we're dealing with right now. and we already heard the people speak in 2018. they want to see change and they want to have a president and a congress that's actually getting these things done that are going to help them in their everyday lives like pay for college and
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do something about the price of health care. but every time we try to move in the senate including on immigration reform and allowing the dreamers to stay, it's stopped by mitch mcconnell and he's backed up by the president of the united states. so to me, this is just part of a bigger problem that's going to solved by this election. >> and then when you say more broadly, when you talk about your 100 days, and we had this conversation that obviously the democrats are sort of having in public, what do you do about all this and how do you outline your agenda? for americans watch who say okay, i got it, the house is having a war with trump, trump said terrible things, he's being condemned for it, what else do the democrats stand for and what would you do for people's daily lives if you were president klobuchar? >> we need to bring deseptembercy back here. parents don't even want to the have the kids watch the
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president on tv because of the embarrassing things he says. secondly in the first 100 days it's unbelievable what you can get done within the parameters of the law. you can do things like bring in less expensive drugs from other countries that are safe. to bring down the price of prescription drugs. that is something that i will do. i will get us back into the international climate change agreement on day one and bring back the clean power rules. one of the points i made today is a lot of people have plans. and i've got some good ones at amy that people can check out. i've given myself a deadline and cited franklin rose volt lo in 1933 basically understood you need the long hall. you need long-term plans and things to get done but you also have to completely gain the confidence of the people in the first 100 days. sadly, people have lost confidence in their democracy because we have a president that undermines it every single day.
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and so that's a lot of my focus. bringing that back and getting things done for people and telling them the truth instead of the over 10,000 lies that have been downed that we've heard out of the mouth of this president. >> senator amy klobuchar on a big and busy night on capitol hill. thanks for making time for us. >> thanks, ari. great to be on. >> i appreciate it. if you're watching our special coverage here live in washington, we've been keeping an eye on the house floor where they're holding the votes open. you can see the count, 228 in the affirmative, 185 in the nay. we are waiting to find out if and when they'll gavel the result. this is what has largely been a party line vote. we've counted about four republicans on record as yes in condemning the president. under the rules of the house, if you want to get into it folks can change their vote up till the last minute. there's reasons why sometimes people their votes. but this has been largely party line and looks like the house
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will take this hick step soon, maybe by the 7:00 hour to actually say the president's racist attack should be formally condemned. that will stand on his record. many the democrats saying that's a blemish on his record. that's our story tonight. we'll stay on the house floor. i want to bring back in several panelists. some you've seen and some you haven't. jason johnson, juanita toliver are here. and former federal prosecutor paul butler is also here. what i'm going to try to do is split the difference. i want to warn viewers if at any moment we get a ruling, we get a vote and a final resolution, we'll bring that to you and cut in. having said that, this is not the only story about racial justice in trump's america tonight. you were here because i want to walk through and we can pull up video about a very infamous case, and that is the eric garner case. this was an unarmed man, a father who are was held in a
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chokehold by the nypd and for five years, this case has been under various investigations. today it's donald trump's justice department that ruled they will not, this is the infamous video, he would held selling loose cigarettes and he would held down on the ground and he ultimately die died saying i can't breathe. the chokehold was ruled illegal. today donald trump's justice department said there will be no charges in that case despite the civil rights division. i would say it's not a far cry from the other story we've been discussing all hour. walk us through lat significance. >> the only person to go to jail for the death of eric garner is ramsey orta who made the videotape, the hero who took out his cell phone and showed the whole world what the nypd was doing. so the federal prosecutor in brooklyn said that he couldn't problem willfulness. and that's why he didn't want to
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bring the case. but that was contradicted by the experienced career lawyers in the civil rights division of the justice department who said they could prosecute and win the case. no that? in part because in 1998, the justice department won a case against an nypd officer who killed a man by putting him in a chokehold. and in that case, ari, they didn't have cell phone video. and this video we see mr. garner saying 12 times, "i can't breathe." >> right. that's what i want to play. i'm going to tell my folks because we have a live action situation watching the house. i'm telling my control room to pull up, we have some of that video, which i think we're going to pull up in a moment. and that puts together what you just said. i want folks the understand this, because it's directly relevant to what's happening on the house floor and the question of civil rights and justice and equality in america and whether the justice department is even qualified to deal with this. i've talked to a lot of sources
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who are very skeptical about how this played out. what i'm going show you are parts of that infamous video and the resolution. the officer is still on the job. he hasn't been removed from the workforce. and every time there has been an investigation, it has not resulted in charges. take a look. >> i'm minding my business, officer. i'm minding my business. please, just leave me alone. i told you the last time, please, just leave me alone. >> hold on, hold on. >> don't touch me. do not touch me! [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> damn. >> all right. >> put your hand behind your back. >> i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. i can't breathe. >> as mentioned, we're cutting
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to our live coverage. let's take a listen to the vote on the house floor condemning donald trump's racist remarks. the united states house of representatives has approved the resolution. we are watching the gaveling of this vote. >> members will take their conversations off the floor. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? >> madam speaker, pursuant to clause 2a of 1 of rule nine,
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arise to give notice to give question of the privileges of the house. the form of the resolution is as follows. impeaching donald john trump, president of the united states of high misdemeanors. resolved that donald john trump, president of the united states, is unfit to be president, unfit to represent the american values of decency and morality, respectability and civility, honesty and appropriate, reputability and integrity, is unfit to defend the ideals that have made america great, unfit to defend liberty and justice for all as extolled in the pledge of allegiance, is unfit to defend the american ideal of
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all persons created equal as exalted in the declaration of independence, is unfit to ensure domestic tranquility, promote the general welfare, and to ensure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity as lauded in the preamble of the united states of the constitution. is unfit to protect the government of the people by the people for the people as elucidated in the gettysburg address, and is impeached for high misdemeanors that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the senate. article of impeachment exhibited by the house of representatives of the united states, in the name of itself, of the people of the united states against donald -- >> we have been listening to the house floor live where two
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things just happened. one, the house formally voted to rebuke president trump for, quote, racist remarks. and then two, directly after that, congressman green came to the floor to push his resolution for impeaching the president of the united states. not a normal day here in the house floor, not a normal day for america. i want to give special thanks to all of the people who joined our coverage tonight, a discussion of civil rights, of equality, of what the president is doing, as well as our coverage of the justice department announcing today no charges in that civil rights case regarding the killing of eric garner by the nypd. as always, thank you for joining me. this has been "the beat with ari melber." we're fitting in a short break. when we come back, "hardball" with chris matthews is up next. ♪
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fear and hatred. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews from washington. i've got breaking news from the capitol. the u.s. house of representatives of the united states has voted moments ago to condemn the president of the united states for having, quote, legitimized fear and hatred of new americans and people of color. the resolution followed the president's racist comments about four congresswomen of color. the vote posed as a reckoning for republicans.


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