tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC July 18, 2019 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
good job on july 31st. >> you're going on the second night of the next round of debates. >> that's right. >> we will be watching. presidential candidate julian castro, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate. >> it thanks, lawrence. >> that is tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. tonight the president denying what we saw saying he was unhappy with that chant of send her back from the crowd at his rally last night. says he tried to quickly stop them by speaking up, which we will match against what actually happened last night. also this evening, no longer just individual one, the president is named in court documents out today about numerous contacts with michael cohen and others surrounding the stormy daniels payoff. the government's former lead lawyer before the supreme court here with us for analysis tonight, including why hope hicks may face jeopardy for her testimony. kamala harris and joe biden set for a rematch in the second
debate as the stage is set for the next 20-candidate two-night extravaganza as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a thursday night. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 910 of the trump administration, and we are in the middle of an ugly period which got its start four days ago when the president targeted four american members of congress by saying why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came? last night on this broadcast, we watched clips of the president relitigating his case front of his rally audience in north carolina. we hear him go after the congresswoman by name. we heard the crowd chant "send her back" about congresswoman omar of minnesota. we watched as the president paused while the chant was rising up from the audience. and today he tried to distance
himself from that chant and tried to deny what we watched last night. >> mr. president, if i may, when you're supporters last night were chanting "send her back," why didn't you stop them and ask them to stop saying that? >> well, number, i think i did. i started speaking very quickly. it really was a -- i disagree with it, by the way. but it was quite a chant and i felt a little bit badly about it. but i will say this. i did and i started speaking very quickly. but it started up rather fast, as you probably know. >> congresswoman omar was welcomed back to her hometown of minneapolis with a different chant tonight and she had her own words for president trump. [ welcome hom . >> welcome home ilhan. welcome home, ilhan. >> he is threatened because we
are inspiring people to dream about a country that recognizes their dignity and humanity. when i said i was the president's nightmare, well, you're watching it now. [ cheers ] because his nightmare is seeing a somali immigrant refugee rise to congress. >> his defiance over his attacks on these congresswomen because put trump's loyal republican party in a tough spot. his friend, a south carolina republican lindsey graham publicly came to trump trump's defense even though once upon a time graham had harsh words for trump on the matter of race. >> i want to talk to the trump supporters for a minute. here's what you're buying. he's a racist-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party. >> isn't it racist to say send her back? >> no, i don't think it's racist to say. was it racist to say love it or
leave it? i don't think a somali refugee embracing trump would have been asked to go back. if you're racist, you want everyone from six-month malia to go back because they're black or muslim. that's not what this is about to me. what this is about to me is these four congressmen in their own way had been incredibly provocative. >> the house minority leader kevin mccarthy did tell reporters that the chants, quote, have no place in our country. he went on to support trump's assertion about not taking part when the chants erupted. >> the president did not join in. the president moved on. he moved on about a speech about a country and the things that are building it right. that's what the president did. has it become so far that you want to dislike the president so much you're going to accuse him of trying to do something he did not do? >> behind the scenes, however, many republicans aren't happy about what time of day unfolded. some of trump's allies in congress suggested to vice
president pence today that the chants were not helpful and that such behavior should be discouraged. "new york times" reporting that house republican leaders, quote, pleaded with pence on thursday morning to separate the party from the message embraced by the crowd. there's this from politico. quote, during a breakfast meeting with republican leaders, multiple members said they were disturbed by the chants aimed at representative omar and asked pence to relay their message to trump, which he agreed to do. today voters also weighed in on the rally and trump's attacks. >> i'm disgusted in america for allowing this to happen. >> there's certain things about america that aren't lovable. people are entitlinged to their opinions. >> if you're going to be here, you have to obey our laws and abide by the things we set here. >> it's just disgraceful. >> this immigration problem, our congress has got to get their
act together. >> as an immigrant, i feel it's very disrespectful and very, very hurtful. for me and most of us, this is our home. >> trump's next rally is set for august 1st. cincinnati, ohio. today reporters asked him about his message to his supporters and if he would stop them if he repeated that same "accepted her back chant." >> these are people that love our country. i want them torp keep loving ou country. the congresswomen, by the way, should be more positive than they are. the congresswomen have a lot of problems. the congressmen and women also have a big obligation in this country and in every country, frankly, but they have a big obligation. and the obligation is to love your country. >> that brings us to our lead-off discussion on a thursday night of for that, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," kimberly atkins,
boston's npr news station, and david jolly, former republican member of congress from the state of florida who has since left the house and his political party. kim, i'd like to begin with this from ashley parker of "the washington post." she was in attendance last night in north carolina. the president paused, as of to let the moment unfurl to fan another gust of oxygen onto the fire of racial animus devouring his base. he let go of the lectern and turned his body to the left. he gripped it again with both hands and stared forward before swiveling to the right. for 13 full seconds, the crowd shouted that omar, a u.s. congresswoman, a u.s. citizen, should be sent back to the country from which she fled. and in the messy aftermath, many in trump's orbit and the republican party confirmed and wriggled, sighing that perhaps the crowd has crossed a line, but generally unwilling to condemn the president himself. kim, do you get the unmistakable view that this has become more
ominous by the day, over four days of this? >> i think so. look, we've seen from the last four years that there are few places where donald trump feels more comfortable and more himself than at a rally. he knows how to deal with the crowd. he knows how to respond to the crowd and play off the crowd. and i think ashley did a pretty brilliant job of describing exactly how he did it. he heard what the crowd was chanting. he stood there and let the chant go through. it wasn't until the chant itself died down that he started to speak again in a very showmanship type of way we've seen many times before. so any claim that he tried to tamp that down is just, you know, he's asking you not to believe your own eyes in that sense. but to your question, yes, we have seen this president before, even when he steppes back from a controversy, especially when it's one about cultural
divisions she's sewen. when he received criticism from that, it was when he came back at a infrastructure press conference and unleashed and totally went off and said that it was very fine people on both sides and really reversed and went back to his original comments. i think that very well could happen here. he clearly was can we where he was at a rally and there are republicans now pushing back. but if he is criticized, he's going to go back to his gut. that's what we've seen him do time and time again. i don't think that is over. >> peter baker, as you know well, sometimes you just have to listen to the president and he will preview his own actions. i'm going to play for our audience a quote you know now by heart. this is before the vfw in 2018. >> just remember, what you're
seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. just stick with us. don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. [ cheers ] >> peter, with that in mind, weren't his comments today just a natural extension? >> well, look, he has repeatedly asked americans to believe his version of events, his narrative that he is setting over not just the viewpoints or recollections of other people who happen to be in a room, but the very videotapes or audio tapes we've seen. we saw him deny that he called meghan markle the new duchess in britain nasty, he denied that the facility in texas that vice president pence saw was crowded and troubled. he denied that he had said, even a small thing like whether he called tim cook, whether he called him tim apple or not.
he did, the audio is very clear and he denied it at first. don't believe what you hear or what you see, believe what i'm telling you. look, a lot of people who believe in him believe he's telling a larger truth. they understand he might not be completely honest, but what they see is someone who is speaking truth to power in a way. that's why they react to his vision of an america that is under siege by this multicultural immigration-heavy, immigration-friendly evolution of a country that makes people feel uncomfortable. that's what he's playing to. >> david jolly, i have two things for you. here's the first element. this is the president on monday. >> it doesn't concern me because many people agree with me.
>> david, that kind of language had people thinking back to a different politician and a different time. this clip that a lot of people may remember. >> i can't trust obama. i have read about him and he's not -- he's an arab. he is not -- >> no, ma'am, no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen, that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. and that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. thank you. >> so david a number of questions. how did we get here? that shows the migration in viewpoint, tone, and tenor among politicians. is this locked in now as how this president is going to run for re-election? candidly, it would be rather striking at this point if he
pivoted and started campaigning on jobs and the economy. >> right. we've seen the real donald trump and it's a failure in leadership that stands in stark contrast to somebody like senator john mccain who rose to the moment of leadership when the nation looked to him at exactly a moment like you just played. brierngs we're four days into this, it's been an exhausting 24-hour news cycle. i am optimistic tonight coming out of what we saw at the minnesota airport. what i mean by that is, i'm optimistic because the leaders who fail us politically, the donald trumps, the lindsey grahams, the kevin mccarthys, their moments are fleeting, their legacies dim early. but tonight we're seeing the early moments of ilhan omar securing a very special place in american history. consider one of just a handful of refugees who have risen to elective office in the united
states congress. now at abinreflection point in this conversation other the freedom of dissent. our nation was founded on dissent. a bunch of people said to the king we can do better. they wrote the constitution and an awareness to protect the freedom of dissent. madison wrote virtually every one of the freedoms in the first amendment comes from dissent. those constitutional freedoms, that's the very same constitution omar in 2000 raised her right hand and pledged true faith and allegiance to. that 17-year-old girl had to listen to an angry mob chant that she needed to lead the country. what history has taught us is that no angry mob can undo the protections that were written by james madison. the reason i am optimistic tonight, the reason i think we can celebrate is this is a moment where we are watching the founders' vision play out. it is exactly ilhan omar's
dissent, if you will, her freedom of dissent our founders envisioned. it is exactly the dangerous behavior of donald trump and the mob last night that they also envisioned. and that is why they wrote into a constitution the freedom of ilhan omar that ultimately will prevail in this very dark chapter. >> that's no fair because i have to pivot from that and say, kim, at the risk of ruining a moment of madisonian optimism, how does congress possibly get anything done in let's just say the next few business days they have before the summer break? >> you know, it's difficult. and there are big things that need to be tackled like the debt ceiling for the congress to take on. and it is difficult. but on the other hand, you do see congress moving. the house voted to pass a minimum wage bill, and so a lot of it is up to the president. the president is in full re-election mode, and he is above all, wanting to paint the
democratic party as being led by these four members of congress, not intent to wait for who the democratic nominee is. we will have to see if congressman jolly is right and if the vision of america that embraces the vision that these four members stand for is something that america will take over the very nationalistic approach that the president is putting forward. but congress will move on, and there will be new things ahead that will grab the president's attention. at the top of the list is robert mueller's testimony next wednesday that i'm sure he'll shift his attention to. but this is the new washington. it's the new normal here, how we go from one controversy, as difficult as this controversy over racism has been, to the next. >> peter, let's talk about reaction. i think you're out in the rocky mountains tonight, but i know your phone still works. let's talk about members of the pliant gop under donald trump, perhaps members of the trump
circle in the west wing. has their reaction changed, migrant, hardened over four days? >> there's clearly a great deal of discomfort about this. republicans spent years trying to build themselves a big tent party, trying to reinvent their image away from a white dominated party to one that welcomed minorities and people of different faiths, welcomed multicultural support. to watch what's been happening seemed to many of these republicans to throw that away, even ivanka trump according to my colleagues' reporting tonight went to her father and said this has gone too far. that's one of the reasons he disavowed at least ostensibly today the chants of the crowd. that doesn't mean he's going to back off. this is central to his re-election strategy as far as we can tell. it's an us against them strategy. we stand for the america that we
remember from the old days. what's remarkable is he's saying if you disagree with me, you disagree with me, that means you're against america. this a president who came to office on a platform of, you know, quite vigorous criticism by the way america has been going, american carnage, make america greats again means america wasn't great then. he said we were no better than vladimir putin's russia. he disagreed with the term american exemptionism. at that time he argued i'll make it better. these four young congresswomen are saying we disagree with your leadership and he's saying, you have to leave the country. >> while good people everywhere pray that your brand of optimism carries the day, i have to say as a southerner, you are also familiar with the playbook of the oldtime segregationists.
and what has bothered so many people are these talking points are way too familiar, given our history in this country. >> i'm glad you asked that. it's why the moment with lindsey graham was such a disgusting one on capitol hill. leaders are intentionally shifting this from center back to love it or leave it, that if you don't love the country, go home. love to them is suggesting agreement. if you don't agree with republicans, you must go home. love it or leave it is essentially a narrative of quieting dissent in the united states and it is just as scary as center back. and i do believe what we've seen from donald trump, he will embrace that. there is a certain knavist and visceral appeal to it, but it is also why those who insulate him on capitol hill, if they don't understand, they're too affordable to be in office. >> our thanks to peter baker, kimberly atkins, david jolly,
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then-candidate donald trump to the 2016 hush money scheme to keep adult film star stormy daniels quiet about her alleged affair with citizen donald trump. the documents reveal an fbi agent investigating the matter wrote that in the days following the release of that "access hollywood" video, cohen exchanged emails with stormy daniels' attorney and david pecker and dillon howard of ami, hope hicks, and candidate donald trump. the agent went on to write, quote, based on the timing of these calls, and the content of the text messages and emails, i believe that at least some of these communications concerned the need to prevent clifford from going public, particularly in the wake of the "access hollywood" story. we should note the fbi says phone records were completely derived from cohen -- i'm sorry. this information was completely derived from cohen's phone
records and not because they had any recording or any copies of donald trump's calls. "the new york times" points out today these documents signal that it is unlikely prosecutors in this case will file any more charges as part of this hush money investigation. prosecutors said they had effectively concluded their inquiry. for more on what this all means, we are so happy to be joined once again tonight by neal katyal, a veteran of the justice department, former acting solicitor general during the obama administration, a man who has argued 39 cases before the u.s. supreme court. counselor, what stood out to you today? for a lay aurngs myself included, what happened in this case today? >> today the documents that were around the search warrant were released. what stands out number one is what donald trump's involvement in this whole thing was. i think we've gotten kind of numb to his racism, corruption,
and sleaze, but you read these documents and, boy, the president was thick in the payments to stormy daniels, this $130,000 payments. one thing that's happened today is really a tie-in directly of trump to this whole thing, which we kind of knew because he was already named individual number one. again, it's pretty stark to see this about a sitting president of the united states. so that's the first thing. and then the second thing i'd say is, you know, it also shows the involvement of other people in the trump orbit. hope hicks, who went to congress last month and testified and said i didn't know anything about this and didn't really have any involvement and i wasn't present when michael cohen was talking to donald trump, the reports show actually she was involved in all this and knew quite a bit. both of those things, i think, are significant. they suggest that really michael cohen wasn't acting alone, which
is, frankly, pretty obvious. i mean, if your lawyer paid $130,000 to someone or $10 to someone, you would be like, what's this about? trump's defense, i think, has been i didn't know anything about these payments from his own lawyer. i don't think michael cohen wasn't doing it out of the generationsty of his heart. >> after all you laid out, why is the only person charged, cohen, and secondly, what real legal jeopardy could hope hicks find herself in as a result of getting cross ways here? >> there's a crime about lying to congress, that's perjury. congressman nadler tonight, the democratic leader of the hours judiciary committee asked hope hicks to come in and clarify her testimony given what she said before. there's a possibility of a crime for that. and then second question is who else could be indicted. and i think we've all known since last year when these first documents were released by
federal prosecutors that individual number one is donald trump, and the federal prosecutors are basically saying, look, this guy committed a crime. now, there's a department of justice policy that prevents the indictment of a sitting president, but there's nothing to prevent donald trump from being indicted for these campaign finance violations after he leaves office and indeed the statute of limitations doesn't expire until 2021. >> what's the likelihood of either one of those happening? >>?" hope hicks getting foundof perjured herself or donald trump the civilian facing actual charges the day after the inauguration? >> if you have a real leader of the justice department who's going to look at this fairly and appropriately, i think there is a risk. if you think about it, these are the most significant campaign contributions in united states history. these are only $130,000 to be sure, but they occurred at a sensitive time, after the "access hollywood" tape and when the president was being pummeled for his treatment of women. and the idea that he could then just go get this money secretly
without anyone knowing about it, without him disclosing it on his campaign finance disclosures, or michael cohen or anyone else, that's a really serious thing. i mean, when i was in the justice department, if i did something like that, i would have been run out of office, as i think anyone rightly would have. and so i think it's a very significant crime and something that any justice department that actually did do the prosecution that the justice department is traditionally known for would go after. >> neal katyal has disagreed to stay with us just as we fit in a break. coming up we'll get his take from this generous rhetoric from the nation's commander in chief, now being echoed out loud by his supporters when we come back. bak but only a select few of the very safest vehicles are awarded a top safety pick plus. the highest level of safety possible. how many 2019 top safety pick plus-winning vehicles does your brand have? one. two. how about eight?
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supreme court jurisprudence, your position is cemented for all time. and yet, you have a near-daily familiarity with the phrase go back to where you came from. >> i heard it my whole life. it started when i was three years old and it continues on. it's easy to slug it off when it's a rando in a parking lot. the fact that the president of the united states would encourage that and sitting by for 13 seconds while others are cheering it, i can't think of a bigger betrayal of our constitutional promise. our national motto goes back to the for how long of our constitution, epluribus you minimum, out of many, one. that's why we respect the flag and cheer the flag and cheer what this country is about. donald trump doesn't even begin to understand that basic foundational commitment. >> as i remind our viewers who may not know, you have praised
some of this president's nominees, so it's not party politics to you, but i say that as a precursor to the question, what's been lost in this presidency? >> it's not at all politics. you can be supportive of republicans or you can be critical of these four women in congress that the president is attacking, as i am in various ways, but it's not about them. this is about a very simple idea, which is we respect people who come here from other countries and, frankly, three of them did, they just don't have brown skin. but we respect people who come interest other countries. we don't care about that. that's what we fought a civil war about. if he wants to go back to the antebellum era, he can try, but does country is way too strong and powerful and our values are too dear in our hearts for that to happen. so what's lost, brian, i think what's lost is the sense of civic communication and fairness and watching this breakdown in the president who's cheering it
on, who hopes for the as opposed to a president who doesn't necessarily have to always bring us together but to prey on the racial divisions and the kind of hurt and pain that people feel, i mean, i can't think of something more disqualifying to be president of the united states than the way he has behaved this week. i'm critical of his obstruction of justice and his conspiracy and all sorts of other things, but this is a true betrayal of everything the country is all about. >> this is cheating because i heard your answer to ari melber. what would be your first three questions to robert mueller in a little less than a week? >> i think this is pretty simple. mueller is going to come in. he wants to talk about the report. the americans need to know what's in the report. so the president said in a tweet that mueller found no collusion or instruction and it totally exonerates the president. three simple questions, number one, mr. miller, did you find no
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drawing a few hours ago to pick which night the 20 qualified candidates will take the stage in detroit later this month. on the first night, tuesday, july 30th, elizabeth warren gets her first debate matchup with bernie sanders. they'll be on stage with williamson, ryan, klobuchar, buttigieg, o'rourke, hickenlooper, delaney, and bullock replacing swalwell who fell out of the race. night two, joe biden and kamala harris return as the big names side by side. joining them, bennet, gillibrand, castro, booker, yang, gabbard, inslee, and de blasio. so with us tonight, stoddard, columnist and associated editor at real clear politics. and eliza collins, covering the 2020 campaign for the "wall street journal." welcome to you both. a.b., two things i december pies
are covering these things like a sporting event, even the idea of a live audience at these events, it detracts from the answers, waists time, and weights the audience with those who can have more people in the crowd. having established that, tell us what your looking for by way of a dynamic this second time between biden and kamala harris. >> right. well, i mean, i agree with you, brian. let's just admit, this is a mess. it's going to be a mess until we have eight people on stage. on one night. let the top pollers face each other and contrast and challenge each other and have an actually debate, which we're not really going to see this time. i have a feeling that kamala harris is not going to go oafte joe biden again. it was a risky ploy, she got benefit out of it but also got some backlash. it will be interesting to see she's on the upswing whether or
not she goes back at that or just tries to sell herself, continue to be this great contestant. biden has to be ready for everybody. booker is going to take him on. he's on stage with bill de blasio again, very difficult for anyone to deal with bill de blasio who's going to insert himself repeatedly. and i think it is an interesting lineup because i think that there's going to be people like booker who sort of had a good debate last month, like castro, that need to break out of the pack this time and they could be very aggressive. >> eliza, pick a grouping, a pairing, any pairing. what are the matchups and dynamics you're looking for? >> all right. i'll go the first night. >> okay. >> the first night we have warren and sanders are sort of the two front-runners of the night. i'm really interested to watch how they interact because they really do agree on so many
different policies here. sanders talked about a lot of these policies in 2016 and brought a lot of democrats on board, including warren. and they're competing for a similar section of progressive voters. but warren has been rising and sanders has sort of been stagnant or falling in polls. so it's going to be competitive. and around them are a whole bunch of moderate democrats. the first night there's a group of democrats who need to break through. and so these people have been attacking sanders for medicare for all i expect that to continue. steve bullock, john delaney, they're going to continue those attack lines because they want to have their moment. so we have a lot of moderates trying to break out. and then with two really progressive people in the center trying to outdo each other. >> both of these journalists have agreed to stay with us as we fit in another break. coming up, what it was that we witnessed from that crowd at the trump rally in north carolina just last night?
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he spreads this hate and he does it for no other reason but to, one, invigorate his base, and two, to divide so people don't notice what else is going on. >> he must be blind and deaf because if he didn't hear what they were saying, i don't understand it. look, this is a game. this is about dividing the country. this is about dividing and raising the issue of racism across the country. >> some of trump's opponents blasting him after those "send her back" chants rose up from the audience at that rally in north carolina and went 13 seconds before being interrupted by the president. they were, of course, specifically targeting congresswoman omar, one of the four congresswomen the president has spent these past few days attacking.
bernie sanders today posted that he was with the minnesota democrat last night as the crowd started chanting, he said she was unfazed and he went on to write, ilhan has incredible courage. she won't back to trump's hate, and neither will we. politico magazine puts last night into context and we quote, earlier in the week when trump defended himself against charges of racism, insisting many people agree with me, it was crowds like these he almost certainly had in mind, but until right then and there, he hadn't heard directly from them. a live audience feeding back direct proof that this was something he could keep running on. back with us are a.b. as to the the card and eliza collins. i want to play something for our friend, nicolle wallace on the air just today. >> who is the democratic leader who can say this is a drop-everything, get on an
airplane, go to the steps of the capitol, go to a central location in des moines, iowa, go to new hampshire, hold hands even if you hate each other and good question. the democrats are going through this so-called purity test, that they can walk and chew gum at the same time. that the societal issues they want to fix, can be in the form of a candidate. do you see a unifier out there? the kind of person that nicolle was talking about? >> that is the central question. joe biden is still the lead poller. he is the person that most people have expressed faith and confidence in, in their one mission, to beat donald trump. this is a very diverse party.
the chant last night was repugnant. but he knows there's a constituency for this. he knows that there is. he knows that ilan omar are going to give this nominee a hard time. and they will exact a purity test on whoever ends up leading the party. it will be divisive. they might say anti-semitic things again. and he wants the party. he wants leaders of the party to be married to these four. they're married to them. while the speaker will continue to fight with these people, when they give her a hard time and say she's coddling, you know, abu abusers and detention centers by running this money off and not demanding more. from republicans, this is a central question among democrats.
how will we pull together behind a nominee. and who will it be? it's no longer clear it's joe biden, unless he comes back fighting and describes to the party that the path forward is through the center. but he will get so much heat from the left, from now until the end of this race. we don't know if he is going to win it. >> eliza, using your powers of description, what must it be like for a republican member of congress, say a member of congress, that just scooted by in the last election, to defend and protect that seat with this going on? >> incredibly uncomfortable. we saw some of our colleagues on the hill, like martha mcsally, who lost her senate election in 2018 and was appointed to a seat. she was on her phone every time
they walked past reporters. they do not want to talk about this. while the base certainly does agree with the president, or have adeeled to the president on this, there's a whole lot of americans that deeply, deeply disagree. these republicans have to win over a lot more than the base. they can't lose the base. they are in a tough predicament. until last night, republicans did start to come out today and criticized the chants. but they were careful not to criticize the president. and that shows how they're trying to have it both ways here. it's very uncomfortable for them. >> these are two by lines to look for. a.b. stoddard, and eliza collins. coming up, more on the anniversary that the planet is
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mention it anymore. two of the three apollo 11 astronauts were west pointers. two of the three were test pilots. buzz aldrin shot down soviet migs in the korean war. these three guys had flown everything. they had pushed the edge of the envelope. and remember this, there was no guarantee that rocket wouldn't explode on the launchpad or in flight. no guarantee they weren't crash-land on that lunar surface. no guarantee that when neil armstrong pressed the button to fire the rockets to blast off from the moon and go home, it would work. president nixon had a statement prepared for delivery and standing by in case those two men had died or left abandoned on the lunar surface. think about that. neil armstrong, the reluctant american hero is now gone. buzz aldrin and michael collins survive. and so does the legacy of the
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