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i definitely can take on all of these issues at the same time. >> congresswoman katie porter, everyone watching this wishes you were in one of the hearings tomorrow. katie porter, the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. tonight on the eve of robert mueller's appearance on capitol hill, all the preparations and planning now give way to what could be the most consequential testimony in years. and late word on who will accompany mueller at the witness table. what will this man reveal about his work, his report, what will he say about how attorney general barr got out ahead of him? what more will we learn about the russian influence campaign in the last presidential election as we head toward another. and then the presidency under criminal investigation and the man who may not like what he hears tomorrow. all of it as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening once again from our
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nbc news head quarters in new york. day 915 of the trump administration. we are now just hours away from the swearing in of the former special counsel robert mueller. a few more numbers here at the outset. the career public servant is 15 days away from his 75 birthday. tomorrow will be his 89th appearance before congress. and the estimates are that only 3 to 10% of americans have actually read his report which weighed in at 448 pages. it was devastating, yes, but it was dense, and written for the attention span of an earlier time in our history. the stakes are high, especially for the the democrats are hoping this testimony in front of the house judiciary and intelligence committees will ignite public outrage and public interest in the investigations into the president. there's also a lot riding on this for the president and members of his party.
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trump attacked mueller constantly. wrongly labed him a democrat. made up conflicts. he charged the whole effort was politically motivated if not made up of whole cloth. that effort continues today when the president again took aim at the investigation and the hearing as he spoke to a group of teenagers in d.c. >> no collusion. no obstruction. that's not good enough. $40 million. interview 500 people. they got nothing. they did everything. the collusion, no collusion. they have no collusion. [ applause ] >> then i have an article, too, where i have the right to do whatever i want as president, but i don't even talk about that. because they did a report, and there was no obstruction. >> more on that article 2 in a bit. tonight our nbc news colleague hallie jackson reports that sources describe trump as
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annoyed, but not overly enraged on the eve of mueller's testimony. they say while he sees the prospect of democrats overreaching on impeachment post mueller as a political win for him, he is, quote, irritated that he still has to deal with the special counsel over two years after this investigation started. we've learned that mueller has been preparing thoroughly for questions from lawmakers. no surprise there. as he did when he was summoned to testify as fbi director. the man who served as mueller's chief of staff at the bureau and who was his deputy in the special counsel office, aaron zebly will be sworn in at the second hearing. the judiciary hearing. mueller's request for him caused a stir among republicans who raised objections as did trump who posted this not long ago tonight. just got back only to hear of a last minute change allowing a never trumper attorney to help robert muler with his testimony before congress tomorrow.
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what a disgrace to our system. never heard of this before. very unfair. should not be allowed. a rigged witch hunt. they said it was discussed with the committees more than a week ago. mueller's morning testimony before judiciary is expected to focus on the question of whether trump obstructed justice in seeking to control the russia inquiry. earlier today former fbi director james comey whose own investigation preceded the special counsel's was interviewed live by nicole wallace. she asked him why mueller declined to charge trump even after citing instances of possible or suspected obstruction. >> he reasoned that as a prosecutor working at the department of justice he can't bring charges against a sitting president. and if he can't charge a sitting president, it would be unfair in writing to accuse the president of a crime because there wouldn't be any adjudication and opportunity for vindication by that president.
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he would try to be fair to the president and principled and lay out the evidence he gathered so that a future prosecutor when the man is no longer a sitting president could take a look at it. that confused a lot of people. then the attorney general grabbed it and said there's no there there and ended the case. >> mueller's afternoon hearing is before the intelligence committee. it's likely to center on the finding that russia interfered with our election. comey said it is critical the public is made fully aware of the kremlin's efforts. >> the facts that were found whether or not there are criminal charges are deeply troubling. there were a lot of contacts between the russians bent on interfering and the trump campaign that was keen to benefit from that interference. that's important. those facts are important for people to know. >> house democrats met again today preparing for tomorrow. they say their questions will be coordinated and in order and not random. this evening the judiciary
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committee chairman jerry nadler, democrat of new york described what he hopes will come out of the hearings. >> mueller investigation revealed a lot of conduct by the president which the american people should be aware of. the president and the attorney general have systemically lied to the american people about what was in the report. they said no obstruction, no collusion. he was exonerated. all those three times are not true. it's important the american people understand what was in that report. >> thanks to our team we also learned today nadler is targeting another key witness in this investigation. our own mike memory with us in a moment reporting the chairman is compelling testimony from one don mcgahn. he can speak to possible obstruction and then some as he was one of the de facto narrators of the mueller report. with that, here for our lead off discussion on a tuesday night. ashley parker, white house
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reporter for the washington post. mim i roka, tim o'brien, executive editor of bloomberg opinion. and as we mentioned, nbc news correspondent mike memali. you spent the day own night on the hill, mike. talk to us about preparation and strategy heading into this tomorrow. >> yeah. i spent part of my evening outside that hearing room in the office building where democrats held what was supposed to be a two-hour, ended up closer to three-hour mock hearing. one member called it a feisty session. i think an indication of some of the fireworks they expect to come not necessarily from the witness table but from their republican colleagues. there's more optimism that this is going to be a hearing that is beneficial to them politically than substantively.
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they know robert mueller is unlikely to go beyond what we call the four corners of that report. the justice department has encouraged mueller to do just that as well. so what they're going to do is use in away we don't see each of their two dozen members try to spin a narrative to bring as they say the mueller report to life. to focus on discreet themes they believe to be important to helping the public better understand what they believe to be an impeachable offense. on the part of republicans, they say this is not going to be the typical minority bomb throwing, in fact, unlike what democrats are saying. they intend to fully use their five minutes each in questions to ask as many questions of robert mueller as possible. they know he's likely to give more one word answers than long answers himself. and they want to make sure for any points that democrats put on
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the board in raising some of the issues that mueller's report lays out that republicans get a little bit of a response and potentially muddy the waters and speak to the president's defense. and democrats want to explore the russia connections. the republicans on that committee coy. the devin nunez, we expect the questions will get to the heart of what was initially a russia investigation. the mueller investigation and the tainted and political motives he believes were at the root of the investigation. >> ashley parker, help us further set this up. each party in this tomorrow has an equal chance of grand standing and screwing it up. we remind folks it was the democrats who thought it was a good idea to bring in a bucket of chicken on the day the attorney general didn't show, so there's that. there's also your beat, the white house, the sources telling our people with a straight face
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the president is not enraged and we've noticed there's nothing on the president's schedule until a scheduled 4 p.m. departure, so what could go wrong? >> absolutely nothing, brian. one thing we're sure of is the president is going to be watching this incredibly closely tomorrow. this is what he always does, and he does what one senior white house official told me is sort of reaction shop. where he then watches and then calls in aides and friends and says what do you think? how do you think it's going? how do you think it's playing? and what's been interesting in calling around to try to understand the frame of sort of trump world going into this is there is not as much anxiety as you might expect. there's sort of an understanding that the president will be watching this, and there's frankly nothing they can do. if he chooses to tweet or weigh in or stop on the south lawn on his way to marine one, and that is just a reality, but there's
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not -- you know, a tremendous war room effort, the campaign is not having young aides showing up at 4 a.m. to get caffeinated and prepare for the hearing that begins at 8:30 a.m. that they're going to be watching it. it's going to be on tv. they're going to respond in kind. as of now because i think this has dragged out over two years basically, the anxiety we saw in some of the early relations of what would become the mueller report, at the end of the day the president was not charged, and there is a sense or not relief, but they think at least as of now and especially if the president doesn't do something to undermine himself, which is always a possibility, that this may not be as bad as one might of thought six months ago. >> that's why we always ask what could go wrong. >> michigan, what do you make of mueller's desire to have a second share. someone with which he shared special counsel experience, someone he's comfortable with?
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>> i think it makes total sense and goes to the way that prosecutors and agents work and mueller has worked his whole life. yes, he is sort of larger than life at this point. but he's always been part of a team. he may be the leader of that team, but that is how the special counsel team worked. that is how every prosecution and investigative team works. it makes sense he would want to have that person there, not because he needs the crutch, but because first of all, you can't delve into the amount of information that they did without dividing it up somewhat. so there are going to be things that mueller is more sort of versed in and things that his deputy is more versed in. you have to divide up to conquer the amount of material. and again, i think -- and this goes to sort of one of the things i hope gets established tomorrow. that mueller does away with the witch hunt idea. that people who don't know how the fbi works and don't know all
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about mueller sort of go back -- step back from this and say look, this is a man with integrity, and we can trust what he's telling us, because he has managed to preserve that. and i think, again, having a team there'ven though albeit a small team, reinforces it isn't about one person, one prosecutor, one supposed fake conflict that trump wants to talk about. it's about the department of justice, if you will, at the time, which special counsel's office, you know, how they work as a team together. >> tim, it strikes me, and i ask you as a the expert on donald trump here. trump may be the recipient of the fact that this report was dense. might as well have been written in old english. it was written for another era that is not apparent to us in 2019. he was the recipient of having a attorney general who threw a body block between him and the mueller report. what are the stakes for donald trump the viewer watching tomorrow?
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>> this is what he pays close attention to. it's political theater. he's very aware of how powerful it is. this is really one of those moments in which you can't underestimate the power of television. most americans haven't read this report, so to the extent that bob mueller in front of these people is telling people how to think about it, and is redefining how people think about it is really important. because bill barr got out in front of this process before anybody else. he was -- it's almost a lesson in how unrestrained power functions. he realized that there was a narrative that had to be told, and spun. he told it before anyone else did. he held on to the report for a weekend. and he essentially gave the president talking points that were then adopted for about a month and a half before the report was released. no collusion. no obstruction of justice. >> total vindication. >> total exoneration, even though the report said, mueller said in the report the president is not exonerated.
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he thinks i think from a close read, that the president obstructed justice and collusion wasn't on the table. they were looking at whether or not there was a criminal conspiracy. having said that, i also hope bill barr rises -- i mean robert mueller rises to the occasion. i don't expect him to. one of the unfortunate elements if he didn't run an aggressive investigation or as aggressive as he could have, and then he let bill barr sort of run circles around him in terms of shaping it. it clearly bothered him. he wrote a better to barr complaining about it. he tried to redefine what the report was about. this is his last chance. to the extent that bob mueller wants to see justice done and wants to see the fruits of a two-year examination of russian interference in the 2016 election, and the president's role in all that, come to light richly and fully tomorrow is his opportunity to do that. >> and what would it like, ashley parker, tomorrow, what would need to be said to have republicans kind of stand up and be counted? anything?
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>> well, i think what both sides are looking for in very different ways is a viral moment. someone of bob mueller's stature and gravitas and long tenure in public service saying something, bringing that report to light in either saying what democrats would love him to say which is basically that were donald trump not the president of the united states, of course, we would have brought charges. but barring that, and as of now it seems unlikely that something that stark will happen, although you can be sure both sides will be trying to get that going. back to tim's point, one of the things that president trump understood both with the mueller report and just in general, it was that at a certain point it became a pr war and about controlling the narrative, and president trump did that masterfully. i mean, we're talking now about these little short hands and quips.
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witch hunt, no collusion, no obstruction, that he coined and entered the vernacular, and comparing it to a 448-page report that reads as if it was written for a different time and a different audience. the challenge will be for either side to get bob mueller to respond in something that can sort of go toe to toe or quip for quip or hold the public's attention in the way you can be assured that president trump will come out and do to try to reframe or remessage if things do not go his way. >> all right. mimi, i went to high school. you went to harvard. article two of the constitution. is it a, possible that it was bill bar who explained the president's seemingly magical powers adds found in article 2, and what does article 2 say in a consumer friendly way. >> it lays out executive powers and they're broad. but they have to be done in a way to faithfully execute the laws. you can't do things that are illegal.
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you have to uphold the spirit and the law and you can be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. i think the reason trump was saying this i'm a monarch, essentially is because barr and maybe rudy giuliani explained why there's no obstruction in the mueller report. no, that firing the fbi director and all that, that's okay because you're allowed to do in a. that's an executive power, and trump probably was i don't know, half listening or heard what he wanted to hear which was i can do anything i want. i can fire anybody. he turned this into i can do whatever i want whenever i want. it's not true, but it goes to the heart of what is really wrong with this presidency, i think. which is he does feel entitled to do whatever he wants to do. and we have to sort of get through this. if i can add one thing, i totally agree with everything everyone has been saying with
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trump being a master of the little catch phrases and everything. but every trial lawyer knows that you shouldn't overpromise your case. overpromise your evidence. and bill barr and donald trump have done that. the no obstruction, no collusion is a myth. and it's worked so far because there were no facts to counterit. what could happen tomorrow is the whole myth could come crashing down when mueller explains and people hear the facts. so that's what i'm hoping will come out of tomorrow. >> tim o'brien briefly, and one more to mike. the power of magical thinking. this is a president who didn't bring knowledge of the presidency. i think that's fair to say, to the presidency. >> right. he's redefining what it means to learn on the job. he discovered probably a month into it, he thought that because he was the president of the united states he couldn't have conflicts of interest so he didn't have to divest himself of financial or business holdings. >> who knew health care was hard. >> who knew. who knew article 2 made you all
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powerful? he's going to interpret everything he learns on the go as empowering him to do whatever he wants to do. that's not going to be a new phenomenon. the problem we're seeing in this is there's no counterforce. there's no one in the gop specifically who is saying no, you're demeaning the office. no, you're redefining the office in the wrong direction, and we as a party and as a country should hold this institution in a different regard. >> mike, you get the final 30 seconds. can the house compel don mcgahn to come in? >> this is going to be a real fight. what democrats are hoping tomorrow is mueller helps them make the case legally for why it's critical to bring him in. mcgahn is perhaps the most critical witness. the contradiction is not courts, you may need an impeachment process already underway to pierce that executive privilege which the white house says bars mcgahn from testifying and
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democrats think they need mcgahn to make the impeachment case. democrats believe the courts are in a state of mind and they believe this is not typical times and mcgahn's testimony is critical and they can bring him in. this might take weeks or months. >> a consequential night. a thanks to ashley, mimi, tim, and mike. and coming up for us, he may not be in the hearing room tomorrow, but he's already made his presence known. attorney general barr already got out in front of the mueller report before the rest of us could see it. took a huge body blow for his boss. and later, it's how the mueller report started. what russia did to us and could do again. will we hear about that again tomorrow as the 11th hour is just getting started on this tuesday night.
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i was surprised to hear there was anything negative in the mueller report at all about president trump. i hadn't heard that before, and i mainly listen to conservative news, and i hadn't heard anything negative about that report. and president trump had been exonerated. >> that right there from that woman in michigan, and congressman amash's district. nicely lays out the stakes for the democrats tomorrow.
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again, estimates are 3 to 10% of americans have read all or part of the mueller report. our ken dlan yan wrote this. they say they intend to guide the former fbi director into presenting a movie version of his dense and laurie tone lawyerly tone. bringing to life what they consider a deeply disturbing story of a president who welcomed help from a foreign adversary and then tried to cover it up. with us for more torrent, rick wilson a veteran florida man, a veteran republican strategist whose views of our president is in his book. and bill kristol, a veteran of the reagan and bush administration. a veteran of defending democracy together and the editor at large of the appropriately named bullwork. welcome to you both. rick, you have the sense to live in a place not called new york or los angeles.
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or washington. we enjoy the florida sunsets. and the dogs in the pool. with that in mind, and that woman in mind from the amash district in michigan, what are the chances that anything uttered tomorrow is going to change the collective mind of this country? >> well, the collective mind of this country, a lot of folks in the center and on the left were sort of disheartened after the barr strategy succeeded and bill barr boxed robert mueller and brilliantly recast a report as exoneration, and trump and his mechanism ran with it. his media mechanism ran with it, and so tomorrow you get a chance to have bob mueller unfiltered. i don't think we should set enormously high expectations. he's going to be a by the book guy. i think we should have a real filter that the republican guys are going to try to set their
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asses on fire and try to distract people from the weight and gravity of this testimony, but that -- so that show tomorrow is going to be one that is going to hold america pretty transfixed. it's going to get a ton of media coverage, and you're going to be able to weigh and assess it by how damaging it is by the degree to which trump loses his mind on twitter. >> bill kristol, when historians look back at the role of the attorney general in playing mr. mueller in effect, getting out ahead, taking that body blow, will it be said that he might have saved the trump presidency from trump? >> that's a good question. maybe. thinking about this over the last 48 hours and thinking about the testimony, it seems we use the metaphor, the movie, the movie script tomorrow. like a show. why are movies interesting? because you don't know what's going to happen, the suspense. i think pelosi in effect taking impeachment off the table is
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when the whole thing began to fizzle. at the end of the day, it's interesting if mueller says a few things he doesn't say in the report or he says things more vividly than in the report, but what's at stake? if it's ultimately to learn a little more, then it's another report. i'm not criticizing nancy pelosi. maybe she's right there isn't stuff there to impeach the president or from a spirited point of view that it would be bad to have a totally partisan impeachment. whatever the merits, though, i think once pelosi basically decided if she has finally decided, but so far not to let these be impeachment hearings as opposed to bob mueller testifies so you get to see him in person, i think that took out in a sense the possibility of the -- think how much -- you've been through this. think how much coverage there would have been over the last two months or the next month or
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two if this was part of an impeachment process leading to possible articles of impeachment and votes, people would be transfixed. now i think people are curious. >> rick wilson, it's been months since i quoted carl bernstein. he always says republicans were the heros of water gate. what is the chance we will see one or two profiles encouraged among the republicans on these committees tomorrow? >> there is a chance so vanishingly small that new branches of mathematics would have to be invented to describe it. not one of the republicans is going to be a hero. they're going to go out and do every possible thing they can to feed the box news machine so ha they can go out tomorrow night and scream conspiracy and go into the lurid fantasies that there was some sort of plan to hurt poor old donald trump and to smear him with this russia
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collusion story when, in fact, it was donald trump having people around him and having people in his campaign giving the russians, in constant communication with them hundreds of times that brought the attention of the fbi and the federal government. they're going to do everything they can to distract and to defend donald trump because they are no longer members of a coherent political party. they're members of trump's guard. >> two classically trained republicans have agreed to stay with us. coming up, trump repeats his campaign refrain at an event today. will it work for him this time around? i'm alex trebek here to tell you
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they come out with donald trump has built almost no wall. what a lie that is. and we're building 50 miles here, 50 miles there. all in the right locations. >> you may recall he mentioned the wall during the campaign once or twice. these days donald trump is adding something of a caveat to this message. just last night he wrote, quote, when an old wall at the southern border that is crumbling and falling over built in an important section to keep out problems, problems is replaced with a brand new 30 foot high steel and concrete wall, the media says no new wall has been built. fake news. building lots of wall. our favorite trump fact checker
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points out, quote, since spring as he has continued to not add any miles, he has shifted to arguing that replacement barriers should count as new wall. back with us again, rick wilson, the coiner of the phrase freedom ditch, and bill kristol. bill, if he can't run on the wall, what do you think this campaign serious question, will fun on for reelection. >> how anti-american the democrats are. instead of a president running on his achievements y. president obama taking us back from the brink of financial collapse. trump will do a little bit of that. he's moving from make america great to keep america great, but it's going to run a negative and obviously divisive campaign, and just try to make the democrats so scary people decide they can
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live with trump another four years. >> rick, it's clear that he has made the squad the face of the democratic party for now. at some point he's going to have to shift and criticize an actual democratic nominee. as you point out to folks on social media, you made your bones and a healthy living running against democrats, learning how they think, how they work. tell us the mistakes you see the democrats making right now. >> well, right now they're fighting an election in 35 states where the election is already over and not focusing on the 15 states they need to play. this is only a game of the electoral college and the states in the electoral college matrix where they have to kwib, pennsylvania, wisconsin, ohio, florida, michigan, those states are not as woke as the blue coastal states where these candidates seem to be playing the heart of their message. and they're also making a
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fundamental error in that every reelection for a president a referendum on the incumbent. they think policy is going to save them or drag them over the finish line when making the case against donald trump as the incumbent is the essential urgent mission of the campaign. they're going to fall into the culture war traps he's setting for them every day, and he's a master of the reality show called the presidency. they need to be cautious to keep this on a referendum on trump. go of his behavior, his affect, the policies he's pursuing that are causing damage and harm to america's -- our national soul and our reputation and the people he claimed he was going to represent in terms of the trade war and economic harm he's doing to the country by engaging in this enormous spending binge, this enormous trade war. >> in thirty-seconds or less, bill, do you think they're
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guilty of being a circular firing squad at times? >> yeah. >> do you think it's early? >> yeah. i actually think they're in pretty good shape. step look at look at the numbers. 2020 for me looks more like 2018. in 2018 the democrats won the national popular vote by about nine points. i don't see a lot of people switching back to trump if the democrats can end up with a decent nominee and keep the focus on trump. i talked to someone who is doing focus groups and all the brilliant divisiveness, swing voters are saying you know, i don't like her much either or agree with her, but why is he attacking her all the time, these four congresswomen all the time. it's awfully divisive. i think there's not as much stomach or support for that among the swing voters and even trump voters. >> great stuff tonight from two genuine experts.
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our thanks for coming on. you always improve the place when you're here. coming up for us, sweeping and systemic. that's how mueller describes russia's interference in our last presidential election. if that wasn't a wakeup call, is mueller capable of delivering one tomorrow?
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the other activities in our report describe efforts to interfere in our political system. they needed to be investigated and understood, and i will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments that there were multiple system attic efforts to interfere in our election and that allegation deserves the attention of every american. >> he's right. and if it didn't get your attention, there's hopes for tomorrow. that is the issue robert mueller may be most eager to discuss tomorrow morning. interference in our election.
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volume one of his report lays out in striking detail the past russian meddling saying russia interferes as you heard sweeping fashion. his report says the special counsel's investigation established that russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election through two operations. first a russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored donald trump and disparaged hillary clinton. second a russian intelligence service conducted computer intrusion operations against entities, employees and volunteers working on the clinton campaign and released stolen documents. couldn't make it more plain. here to talk about it, malcolm nans, special ops homeland security some 35 years in the year of counterterrorism and intelligence. how can it be late tomorrow?
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the author of the the plot to destroy democracy. we're back in tomorrow morning. he's the author of "the plot to destroy democracy how putin and his spies are undermining america and dismantling the west". malcolm, what do you hope to hear tomorrow, and the second part of my question is can minds still be changed tomorrow? >> i think minds can still be changed. i think if robert mueller comes out and forcefully tells the american public that the united states was attacked, that there was no hoax, and that we are still under a sustained attack as christopher wray the fbi director said just yesterday, then that will become one of the overriding metanarratives that president trump has been covering up. today is the three year plus one anniversary of when wikileaks released all of the hillary clinton emails.
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and i don't think it's any coincidence that tomorrow will be plus one day of that anniversary where he can speak forcefully about section one of this report with full throated voice and not have to worry about the politics of it. >> i want to play for you an exchange from today. this is senator lindsey graham and fbi director wray. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> are the russians still trying to interfere in our election system? >> the russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections through -- >> is it fair to say that everything we've done against russia has not deterred them enough? all the sanctions, all the talk, they're still at it? >> well, my view is until they stop, they haven't been deterred enough. >> and they're still doing it? >> yes. >> so malcolm, would that exchange -- with that exchange in mind, why has it been so tough for the president, for his
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loyalists for those around him to get on board with this? is it an innate kind of primal fear that the end of the story might be an ill legitimate election? >> you know, congress is going to determine whether the story ends properly, whether it's an illlegitimate election and they have the powers to do that. we haven't seen any effort for them to do that. they want to expose the information related to the mueller report, but as you saw in that exchange with lindsey graham and chris wray, lindsey graham has been one of the major facilitators of donald trump's metanarrative that this is all a hoax. in russia where they study us in great detail at deep scholarly levels in a way we don't study them, their intelligence community must be laughing at that exchange. because they know that donald
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trump has lindsey graham in his pocket. and lindsey graham has now amplified every message that they want to create this framework in which the fbi is an illegitimate -- within 24 hours, his testimony will turn into a hysteria donald trump and calling all of this a lie. this is where the united states national security is fundamentally damaged. no matter what our protectors at the fbi, the national counterintelligence division and the cia and other organizations do, we have been subverted from within. >> malcolm, i've got about a minute left. you were the first person to tell me that even the anti-vaccine effort is being help aid long by a russian campaign on social media, that it's based on the theory that a sick enemy, and an enemy
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fighting strife over social and public health issues is easier to have your way with. isn't that correct? >> that's correct. and you know, again, a lot of what we are seeing, and i know it sounds like to some people like this is hyperbole, we are watching themes, and activities which were common in the cold war which every person in u.s. media and most thinking adults would have read in the paper coming from the soviet union, and thought well, that's absolutely ridiculous. or i can believe that they're evil enough to do that. but for some strange reason now one-third of the u.s. population's opinion has been co-opted to be in line with that of the russian federation. it's just the soviet union without communism. right? so that being said, these same themes which were created in the 80s. the soviets created the theme
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that the aids virus was a cia plot, they do the same thing with anti-vaccination themes, anti-minority themes, and megaphoning anything which damages american democracy. >> incredible stuff. all of it. always a pleasure to have you on. thank you very much. another break for us coming up tomorrow is robert mueller's 89th appearance before congress. he wants it to be his last.
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a quick reminder i'm back on the air tomorrow morning in this studio. with nicole wall lance and our entire team. 8:30 a.m. eastern time. to cover robert mueller's historic testimony before two committees of the house. again tomorrow morning 8:30 a.m. on this very net work. coming up, our greatest ally
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will now be presided over by a man who was the choice of 92,000 people.
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last thing before we go here tonight. closest ally the united kingdom is facing its greatest challenge since the second word war.
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most brits feel they have precisely the wrong man for the job. johnson will officially become prime minister tomorrow. to americans who don't follow british politics. he's the one with the hair. simple and easy to refer to him as the trump of the uk. it's more than that. while both men were born in new york, johnson went onto the exclusive school and onto oxford. trained in the classics. he was a journalist and later m mayor of london. he said trump was out of his mind now they're good friends. he has gone all in on brexit. almost without regard to the stakes and costs. he's willing to leave the eu by november. it's unlikely cooler heads in parliament will allow that. here is british journalist in the "new york times." quote. mr. johnson who laziness is
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opportunityism legendary. is a man well practiced in deceit. a pander willing to tickle the prejudice of his audience for an easy gain. his personal life is incontinue tent. public record inconsequential and could bring about the end of britain itself. you may wonder how he could become prime minister. there was no election. his name was not on the ballot. except the vote among due paying members among the conservative party. because of the way their politics work, 92,000 party members voted for him. that was all it took. .3% of the nation. of the population of 60 million. she congratulated him for becoming prime minister of the united king ston.
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here here. that is our broadcast on a tuesday night. we'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning. good night from new york. ning good night from new york tonight on "all in" -- >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >> donald trump's depraved behavior finally takes center stage. >> we did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime. >> tonight, the final preparations and the expectation setting as robert mueller will finally answer questions on his devastating report for the president. plus, congressman hakeem jeffries on how democratic leadership plans to handle the fallout from mueller. alarming new details about the maga bomber's path to radicalization. and why the trump administration is planning to kick millions off of food stamps as they throw billions at agra business.

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