ali is lye to pick up our coverage of hurricane dorian. >> it's good. it's settled down a little bit here, but not the case for everywhere. i'll talk to you in a little bit. we are -- >> we can see that the storm has really whipped up where ali is and we have lost contact with him. wool gets back to him as soon as we can. but let's get you caught up to date on what's going on and take a check of the radar. first of all, hurricane dorian is now a category 2. it's about 60 miles south of myrtle beach, south carolina. maximum sustained winds are 110. dorian is moving north/northeast at 8 miles per hour. hurricane force winds extend outward 60 miles from the center. tropical storm force winds extending outward 195 miles. it's been lashing the carolinas

with flooding from storm surge and rainfall. the damage so far doesn't compare to the destruction left behind in the bahamas. but it is creating potentially a visible humanitarian crisis. so let's go to ali vel chit back with us. you have some strong winds th e there. we lost you for a minute. >> that was a fun trick to do all the heavy lifting. this is the first time i learned that trick. thank you for helping me out. it's a little unpredictable out here. it's ironic because that's not been anywhere near the height of the winds and the course of the day and of this hurricane. typically what happens is when you're doing these things because you're dependent on forms of transmission, when it gets rainy and windy, you lose the transmission. that's not where we are right now. charleston is feeling particularly calm. take a look at the water.

it's been choppy all day. this is not the calmest water, but you're not seeing white caps here. we're not in danger of overtopping the peer pier. that's a wooden pier over there. you can see the tide is higher than it would be, but not as high as it was anticipated being. i'm in charleston harbor. that the ocean. fort sumter is out that way. the storm is right now closer to myrtle beach. we're now at the back end of it. the hardest part of the storm, a hurricane is that front quadrant when it's coming up to you. things have calmed down. there's a lot of rain around here and still flooding in the charleston area. but it is heading northeast. this storm might make landfall as a category 2 hurricane in north carolina. i want to go to conway, south carolina, which is north of where i am now. molly hunt er is standing by. what's the situation where you are?

wz. >> we're just starting to feel the really strong winld. we have been here for a half hour. i'm just going to bring in thomas. do you mind coming to join me. this is for the county, who can talk to us a little bit about the damage. one of the big things they have been seeing here that you didn't expect were all the tornadoes. we just spoke with a couple people who evacuated. they saw the tornadoes and got freaked out. there's a little bit of a lull in the wind. what kind of damage have you been seeing today? >> unfortunately early this morning, we woke up to alerts about tornado warnings in the area. definitely two have been confirmed by the national weather service. decent amount of damage up in north myrtle beach areas. >> what kind of damage are we talking? rvs flipped? we have seen some videos of

homes being destroyed. >> in our area not as bad as it was in north carolina. we saw some trees and power lines down, cars pushed around, shingles off roofs sorks that kind of thing to the point where the elements of this storm would be able to get into the homes. that's why those folks were definitely going to take the chance and move out of those. >> reporter: the worst here is this evening, as we know. you have been telling people to get out and we just heard from the deputy sheriff that really folks have about an another hour to get out. what's your advice to people? >> if you're staying, we're about to get into the worst of it. stay away from windows and doors. make sure you have the emergency kit ready. charge all the electronic devices now while you still have power. we expect a good amount of power outages as the winds pick up. make sure you're prepared.

>> thank you so much. i really appreciate it. we'll be keeping an eye. folks have a couple more hours to get out. >> and remember the hurricanes you always know which side the wind is coming from. you can find safety. that's not the case with tornadoes. tornadoes are something to be freaked about. they are immensely powerful. you don't know where they are hitting you from. thank you. it is the convention bureau. we didn't get the storm surge and the high tide as high as it could have been. >> we have some trees down, but

you'll see the wipds already started to turn this is the fourth or fifth year in a row where you have had an incident of this magnitude. >> we know they are coming just like you said. unlike a tornado, we have had a week to prepare for this. so this is the fourth year in a row fpz. >> that's terrific. talk to me about what is is there a larger problem here. is it where charleston is? is the land too saturated. why does the flooding continue to occur? >> it's what most coastal communities are facing with. it's sea level rise. as the water rises, they don't

call it the low country for anything. when tidal floods come in, we're above sea level. it doesn't stick around very long. >> is there anything over the course of time that charleston is thinking of doing to mitigate this? we're all thinking about things we can do in the face of climate change, but what's a place like this, which is growing and becoming more popular with people over the entire hins history. what do you do about that? >> this is a prime example of great political leadership. just like they prepared for the storm, we have work iing with t folks in amsterdam to try to help teach us how to plan for and construct things to keep flooding from being such an issue. it's one of the key things we're focused on as a community. >> we're glad that the damage has not been terrible around here. we expect to be back on your feet. i look forward to being back in charleston with blue skies. good to see you.

thank you. i want to go to michelle grossman, our meteorologist who has been with us through this whole thing back before we couldn't figure out where the storm was going. it's finally upon us. and as you can see, just in the conversation, suddenly the wind picks up and gets calm again. where are we in the storm? >> you're right, we're on day 14 of talking about it together. we're looking at charleston. you're doing well. you're going to improve from here. as us yo mentioned, you have the highest water during low tide. no complaints from any of the residents and people of charleston. let's take a look at the wind speeds here. 48 miles per hour in charleston. you'll get the gusts every once in awhile. myrtle beach at 38 miles per hour. 36 in wilmington. let's look at the latest in terms of stats this came in at 2:00. 110 miles per hour. so that's a strong category 2 storm. you only need a couple more to get to a category 3. and begin to weaken. so let's check it out for you by thursday. later on tonight, we're looking

north. this is where we're most concerned from wilmington. also in the cape, that's where we're going to be watching in terms of storm surge. we have the highest tide there. that's something we're going to watch. as we head throughout the next couple hours, look at the category 1 storm still friday at 8:00 p.m. this story goes on and on. and this is what we're talking about earlier. we had 20 reports of tornadoes. that is unbelievable. now remember hurricane has everything it needs to spin off

a tornado. we have seen that. that's an enhanced risk. that's very rare when it comes to tropical systems. the good news is they tend tb quick and tend to be a quick spin up. the they are rain wrapped. that's invisible to our eyes. it tends to be kind of disguised by that rain. we'll see that throughout the night here. remember we're going to get dark soon. we'll be dealing with overnight when the power is out. the skies are dark. we have a tornado watch in parts of south carolina until 4:00 and then in north carolina until 7:00. so watching this very closely. want the to talk about storm surge. that's a huge concern when it comes to hurricanes. we're looking at storm surge as the wall of water. north carolina, you'll be under the gun here as we go throughout

tonight into the early part of tomorrow until about 12:00 tomorrow. so 4 to 7-foot storm surge. 49% of all deaths come from storm surge. the rest is from rainfall and flash flooding. so keep that in mind. something to look at. the hot pink is the storm surge wp we have warnings for myrtle beach. so we're going to track this at least for the next four days. >> i'm going to pull up stakes after this show and visit our friends in north carolina. i'm going to head to moore head city. i'm worried about myrtle beach because of the tornadoes. there's been a lot of storms on the ground. the only time i'm worried is tornadoes because you don't know where it's coming from. >> i want to go to nassau, bahamas. for all the talk about downed power lines and some flooding, none of this, none of this comes anywhere close to being comparable to what the bahamas

have seen. we have been following the storm since puerto rico and then into florida is now in the bahamas. what is the devastation looking like? >> i want to show you what it's like here at the heart of the relief effort. i'm going to let my cameraman show you these pictures of these families that have just started to come in from the bahamas. these choppers land here every hour or so with five or eight people at a time. it's ab extremely slow effort. families trickling in just completely exhausted after what they have lived through. they tell me that they have been without water for days. food is hard to come by. and i heard from the people that have just arrived and they have told me there are hundreds of people desperate to get out. it's not a question of taking

supplies over there. it's unlivable over there. it's a question of bringing them here. and i want to see the families are open to speaking with us at all. i want to be respectful of what they have been through. what is your name, ma'am? >> mahmoud eerie. >> where are you coming from? what did you live through? >> a nightmare. that's all i can tell you. i have lived there all my life. i have been through hurricane floyd. but i tell people this was like a a 10. everything is gone. there's nothing left. there's not much left to it. the structures are some standing, some are completely gone. in the mainland, i understand there's hundreds and hundreds of people that are dead. i still don't have family members that i have accounted for yet. we got lucky to get out. >> this is your family over

here? >> this is my son. this is my husband. we got to come in on the u.s. coast guard because my husband got a nail shoved in his foot and it's infected. luckily, we were able to get in on the medic. so we're going to stay here in nassau and try to catch ourself and figure out what to do next. >> reporter: thank you for sharing this story. i hope you get to find your family members. thank you so much. god bless you. >> we're really dehydrated because we haven't had much water on the island. we're on a little island only two miles long. so i have been feeling really weak and dehydrated. my son has done well. i'm so proud of him for going through what we went through. we had 220 mile per hour winds. it's incredible. i can't even describe what we went through.

everybody on the island i was on survived. that's a blessing. >> reporter: when you say hundreds of people you think are dead, did you see anything? >> just local media and people going to the other island telling me that there were bodies floating all over the place because they got flood ed. i don't know who is who and what's happening. we can't get over there. so we just flew straight from our island straight here. they landed on the runway. >> i'm going to let you be with your family. we're proud of your son. god bless. thank you so much. thank you. >> reporter: families just coming in from grand baja ma. i just have to say on a personal note. it's hard to not break down when you hear those testimonies. to think of what those families are going through, understanding that the relief effort is very slow and complex.

>> you have seen a lot of tragedy in the things that you have coffered. this one is ominous in the reports we keep on getting. and the facts we don't yet know. it's one of those stories i wish i didn't have to know more about, but you'll help us get there. stay strong. we'll continue to stay on this story and keep our attention on the bahamas because what they need now is the attention and the help of the world on the outside. i want to go back to up the coast here. simone is standing by. what's the situation? >> reporter: high tide has come and gone here. i guess i'm going to take this as a sign of good news. the portion of the sand here, this is the first time that we have seen it in a few hours. it's just been covered in water. hopefully this is a sign that perhaps hurricane dorian is as close to us as it's going to get

and that things and conditions here might improve over the next few hours. but still, you can see this water is rising all the way up to the dunes here on the beach in myrtle beach. it's kmeetly deserted over here. this is an area where that's a popular vacation spot. lots of hotels and condos over here. we're not seeing too many people out here besides other media. and throughout this city, we know there's been instances of flooding. this is part of an area that's in a flash flood warning zone. so even if the conditions get better here, that's something that we're still going to have to monitor and officials are going to have to monitor here as well as the tornadoes. we had our own run in with a tornado getting an alert that we were in a tornado warning zone. now a watch is still in effect for the rest of the day.

>> we'll keep in touch. thank you. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we'll visit wilmington, north carolina. this is an interesting place. as the storm moves northeast, it's looking like it's getting ready to intersect with land and could be around wilmington, north carolina. you're watching msnbc special coverage of hurricane dorian. i'll be right back. $9.95 at my age? $9.95? no way. $9.95? that's impossible. hi, i'm jonathan, a manager here at colonial penn life insurance company, to tell you it is possible. if you're age 50 to 85, you can get life insurance with options starting at just $9.95 a month.

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we are covering hurricane doris yab. i'm in charleston, south carolina. we're headed away from high tide. the storm surge has mostly ended here. there's flooding in this town, but the damage seems to be minimized. we hear some rekuss taking place because of the flooding. we're going to head up to the coast to wilmington. we're going to find my friend cal. this storm locks like it's heading away from me and to you. >> yeah, and you have been here. i bring that up by way of reporting this story. a lot of people a year ago when the last hurricane that came through, hurricane florence, they left a year ago and the city flooded. it flooded for three days and it was cut off. the city became an island. people were unable to return to their homes. the question is how many people stayed in the city because of what happened last year. wilmington, they say, is prepared. you talk to officials here.

the city is ready. this is about as good as the weather is going to get in the next 12 to 18 hours as this storm moves north. but people say they are ready. the sandbags are in place. people are starting to hunker town. people are getting a last look before the storm. we think the tornado danger has passed. there was a confirmed tornado two and a half hours ago. we seem to be out of that warning period. at least we hope for now. the big question will remain the flooding. the question is how long will it flood for. you can expect that's only going to increase. >> i will probably see you. i'm heading up your direction in the next few hours. i'll probably pass by and say hello. stay safe. it did catch everybody off guard. hurricane florence came on shore and wilmington ended up flooding quite seriously.

let's go to todd who is with the army core of engineers. thank you for joining us. as we're talking about flooding, we're talking more about flooding in the united states with this storm than we are about other types of structural damage. talk to me about the work the army core of engineers have done and what's underway now. >> thank you for asking that question. before i get into what the core is doing, it's important that everybody knows that this is really been a phenomenal effort by the entire team. we have done about 15 of these major storms. you and i talked last year in the middle of florence. everybody is cross talking, states, local governments, the army, erbe is all in. and after 15 storms, i'm not sure that the coordination before the storm could have been any better. agility is a big thing here. this storm has been all over the map. so everybody both the states and federal government has had to move a lot of the teams around

because we weren't sure where the storm was going to go. you talked about water. that's our single biggest concern right now. and just as your staff has briefed weather a couple minutes ago, we're worried about the surge. it's going to have significant flood iing in the next 36 hours. what the core is doing is to be able to model that is and map that and to make sure local and state governments understand the risk of this significant water hazard. >> everybody talks about the effectiveness of the coordination. how does it work when the storm passes and they get a sense of what kind of power is down and what kind of flooding there is? how does that go down? >> well a lot of this is just relationships. we always say you have to have the relationships before the storm.

it's sit there in south carolina. it's important that everybody understands the capabilities of what we all bring to the team. nobody can do it by themselves or everybody working together. i think we understand how to lean on each other to be able to make sure we mitigate that darth. >> when we think back to katrina, it wasn't that the capabilities didn't exist in the private sector and military. it was a coordination issue. now we are looking at much better coordinated responses to these things. thank you for the work you do. thank you for talking to me again. i want to take a look at cape fear. it doesn't look all that serious now, but if the storm does get close to or on to land, it's going to be around that part of the country. so we're going to be keeping a close eye on cape fear and

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ali vel sher with our special coverage here. i'm in charleston, south carolina. our meteorologist was mentioning that we have been talking about the storm for about two weeks. you have been in charleston since saturday. >> yeah, i got here on saturday. i was on the way to florida. luckily, i arrived late enough the track had changed. i'm going to stop in charleston. and this is a big city where the big population that floods a lot. >> and that's an interesting thing. this place floods. the mayor was really happy that the high tide didn't get as high as it was. so the flood damage will be minimized. we're in a part of the country that floods a lot. the area is saturated. sea levels are rising. charleston is probably more popular than it's been in all of its history. this is a real issue that

coastal american cities have to deal with. >> i look at the drainage situation down here sort of like a surge going into a sound. the rivers are on both sides. the drains can't drain into the river when the river is pushing back against the drain. the rain falls and can't drain and goes under water. >> this is not something that's going to get better or easier over time unless we do something about it. i don't know what that looks like. >> i'm not an infrastructure guy. they need to do something about it. when you see streets under 2 feet of water, it's got to change. >> talk to me about the storm. people here in charleston are breathing a sight of relief. this isn't as bad as it could have been. this thing is not ending. it's heading up toward north carolina. what do you think happens? >> i just left buckston on wednesday of last week after td six. i said i think you guys are going to be fine. they are photo going to be. they are going to get surge. hurricane alex, there was five feet of surge.

during irene, nine feet of surge. so i'm worried about them. it's always been about the wind speeds and the the damage that the wind does. we have learned that much more of the danger to life comes from the surges and the flooding. >> over 80% of the people that die in these storms die in surge or fresh water flooding. in places like north and south carolina a lot of those are people driving cars into water thinking they can make it. that's why we say turn around, don't drown. >> that's one of the things that happens. there are people who say i can make my way through this because rising water doesn't seem as threatening to people as 110 or 150 mile per hour winds. >> that's something that they need to understand. surge is so different than flooding. it will rise slowly. this surge is a moving wall of water that will destroy everything in front of it. when you hear surge, hide from

the wind and run from the water. >> let's talk about the forecasting. it's gotten better over the year. so why are we worried about the storm. it doesn't seem to be the forecast. it seems to be the weird niche of the storm. >> you expect the fronts to come in and push it or pull it and sometimes they don't do that. the track forecasting has gotten so much better than in years past. intensity still a bit of a problem. we went to sleep and woke up a cat 3 again. >> thank you for joining me. john van pelt. i want to show you a live picture of north carolina. we're going there after our break. our coverage continues, right here on msnbc. es, right here on msnbc. every day, visionaries are creating the future. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country.

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our special coverage of hurricane dorian continueses. i'm ali velshi. i want to go up the coast to nags head. we find katie beck. what's the situation where you are? >> ali, it's been a pretty pleasant day here for most of the day. that's all change iing now. we're seeing some dark clouds starting to roll in. the winds are getting stronger. and actually our first signs of rain starting to come down on the beach now. there is obviously a mandatory evacuation for all of the out ir banks. there's a curfew of 8:00 p.m. no one will be allowed to cross

the bridge into the outer banks after 8:00 p.m. tonight. hotels, restaurants, all the businesses that are normally flooded with tourists completely empty right now. even the hospitals taking extra precaution. they moved all the patients inland and are keeping a a skeleton crew in the emergency rooms. they are going to see a surge of people trying to get to the e.r. with storm-related injuries. they are going to have doctors and nurses bringing in their sleeping bags and toothbrushes and staying overnight. now the storm surge is is what they are most concerned about here. 4 to 7 feet is possible. they have had a lot of time to prepare. it's making its way up the coast. people have heeded that warning. now what's left to do is wait.

the storm is making the worst of the damage happening some time overnight. >> want to go to penn state professor michael man, who has been talking with me a lot about our changing climate. i don't know any actual climate deniers. i know they exist but i don't know any personally. i don't know where they live. you cannot live in coastal america and not understand a fundamental fact and that's our cities are flooding more often, more regularly, with less im pet tus they they needed to 50 years ago. >> thank you, it's good to be with you. indeed, whether you live on the coast or inland with the unpress debited surm storms and floods and heat waves and wildfires we have seen in recent years, the impacts of climate change are no longer subtle. we can see them with our own two

eyes. in this case we have an ocean that's very warm. the global oceans have warmd up by a degree so far. it's a little less than 2 degrees fahrenheit. we know for each degree of warming, of the ocean surface, you get an increase of 7% in the maximum sustained winds of these very strong storms. that might not sound that big, but the destructive potential of the storm goes as the third power of the wind speed. that's a 23% increase in destructive potential. we saw that. we saw that in the bahamas. the definite station from that wind field. and now what we're seeing is another aspect of that. because the wind drives the storm surge. the warm ocean puts a lot of water vapor moisture into the atmosphere. there's potential for more flooding rain. it comes together and get the compound flooding we're seeing right now along the southeastern coast. >> so that's the higher

intensity hurricane. i have had people tweet at me to say lclimate change doesn't caue more hurricanes. there were always hurricanes. nobody has argued that climate change is causing more hurricanes. it's the temperature inkrecreas and the water causing an increase in the intensity of those hurricanes. the wind field drives a bigger storm surge and it's on top of a foot of sea level rise. now keep in mind, so far we have only seen the tip of the iceberg. while sea level rises less than a foot, we're likely to see 3, 4, 5 or 6 feet by the end of the century if it we continue not to acts on climate. >> that's a scary but important message. sometimes it's when the storms are upon us or when the wildfires are upon us that we can talk about them. the problem with climate change is it happens over time and becomes hard, as you and i have discussed for the mind to

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. the winds here in charleston, south carolina, are substantially lower than they were 10 or 12 hours ago, but the hurricane has largely passed here. it's going northeast to myrtle beach. i want to go to simone standing by in myrtle beach. you should be getting a bit more of this. >> that's right, i wanted to think tat worst of it had passed, but i'm not sure that's true. we just received a flash flood warning. one of the emergency alirts letting us know the threat is not yet over. so we are still seeing just basically unrelenting rain. it has just been pounding here since late last night. the wind also unrelenting. i'm sure you can see the palm

trees behind me and the ocean waves just thrashing back there. a lot of them have been reaching as far as the dunes. so that makes everyone here quite nervous when it comes to storm surge and flooding and we know that that is an issue in a city that has dealt with multiple hurricanes over the past couple years. i want colluding hurricane florence. she reminded me there are a lot of residents who still haven't recovered from the hurricanes. they are dealing with the added threat and danger of flash flooding from this one. >> always remember the people who don't go sometimes can't go. they are not just being stubborn. sometimes it's expensive it's hard to fill up your car and stay in a hotel somewhere else. and often those are the same people who get repeatedly hit each time there's a hurricane. so we always have to keep that

in mind when we're critical about why don't people evacuate. stay safe in myrtle beach. we'll continue to come back to you on that. this storm has largely stayed off the coast for most of the trip along the coast of the united states. including in florida. that may change when the storm shipping north carolina. there's a chance of one or two landfalls in north carolina. i want to go to steven delawade with duke energy. they have seen this time and time again. the damage comes from flooding, downed power lines, inundated power losses. what are you preparing for in north carolina? >> thank you for having me on. the long wait is is over. and it has been a long wait, but it's allow us to prepare for dorian here in north carolina. we're projecting as many as

700,000 customer outages in the carolinas. and our preparation has focused on addressing those outages. so far i think we have several thousandousages. but with the hurricane just but with the hurricane just coming into our coastal zone, we expect many more. >> talk to me about the pro positioning of this, the one advantage of the long wait is even as i drove from orlando to savannah, i saw a number of trucks, cherry pickers, heading south. so there's an opportunity to coordinate with fema and army corps so things get back in place. te tell me how the preparation is different. >> that's exactly right, ali. we have amassed over 9,000

utility workers ready to do this important work. in fact i just came from one of our staging areas a little while ago. we have all of the crew we feel we need. we have all of the equipment we feel we need. but now that the storm has come into our service area, we will keep those resources at a safe distance from the storm's impact areas. and then when conditions allow us to go back in, we'll go back in and start those repair and restoration efforts immediately. >> stephen, how does that work? when i'm on the road, i see these crews coming in from all over the country. the search-and-rescue crews. is there a general agreement to just head towards where there's trouble? >> yes, all of the utilities are part of a mutual assistance program. so when the industry sees a need in a certain area of the country, the affected utility will contact other utilities, arrange for resources to be on

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all right, i'm in charleston, south carolina. from those of you who know the area, you couldn't see him earlier because of the storm but you see the bridge over there and other side of it where you have mount pleasant where you will find the naval and maritime museum. larry murray, the executive director there, joins me now. larry, what's the situation? what's going on there? i understand most of your stuff is intact. >> yes, sir. uss york bound, the three ships that are here at patriots point and the small team that stays during hazardous weather and heavy weather plans, we survived and things went well through the night. in the afternoon looks like we

have another hour of tropical-force winds and things should start to calm down. >> you have aircraft there as well. they're okay. >> yes, sir. we have 52 different types of aircraft dating back to world war ii to modern-day aircraft and they have all weathered dorian quite well. >> i saw something, some alert and i wasn't able to keep track of it earlier about the uss yorktown. did something happen to that ship? >> during dorian, during the hurricane here? >> yeah. >> the only thing that happened here at uss yorktown is we lost power about 1:00 this morning and been on backup power, running on generators, just to keep the fire suppression and emergency systems on. and that's why we with keep the stay-behind crew to monitor conditions during hazardous weather and during hurricane season. >> you have a stay-behind crew but there's not much you can do, right?

these things are exposed to the elements. >> they are exposed to the elements and those who are in the navy understand the impacts of what water and salt do to steel ships. so we try to mitigate as much as we can to monitor and the biggest thing we face is eight inches of rain we believe here in the charleston harbor and we look at the water penetration so eventually we can get to clean up the water and get topen for our visitors in charleston and mount pleasant. >> i have 30 seconds, for those people who have not visited, why should they come and see you? what do you have that's of interest to other people? >> the uss yorktown is a great aircraft carrier p uss aircraft known as the fighting lady and known the story that would never sink and all of these military aircraft as well as vietnam experience. we continue to grow our

exhibits. oh, by the way, who would not want to come to mount pleasant in south carolina? >> i completely agree with you there, larry. i'm glad we could have this light of conversation in the wake of this storm because things could have been a lot worse around here. thank you, larry. i will make it my own mission to come back and visit you the next time i'm here. i enjoy coming down to this part of the world. there's a lot of history here and you're a big part of it. larry murray, right across there in mount pleasant, south carolina. here's the situation we have. right now we're mostly at the back end of this storm here. let me point you over to the surge here, the surge on the tide. we're not at high tide and we did not get as dangerous a surge as we thought might happen. there's still a good deal of flooding in downtown charleston. this is a place prone to flooding regardless. however, this storm did not get to charleston. it continues to move northeast up the coast of the united states and as it does so, it's converging with the coast of the united states. at some point maybe this will

change, we hope it will change, but at some point it might touch north carolina. the storm might come ashore. we will be watching for that. i'm leaving here and heading up to north carolina in preparation for that. our team coverage continues here on msnbc. i'm ali velshi. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace begins right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. if only donald trump tackled gun violence, pediatric cancer in the way he's spent proving he was right all along that hurricane dorian was in the path of alabama. no noaa corrected the president vehemently. and today donald trump is still at it. his alabama tweet count today stands at four but those numbers are expected to right as donald trump surveys the damage to his reputation, which now includes sharing a false weather forecast and doubling down on