ali velshi, on the road live in north carolina. we are tracking hurricane dorian as a category one hurricane continues to creep its way up the atlantic coast before moving out into the atlantic ocean. dorian's whipping the outer ban banks. storm surges are expected to be seen throughout the day. hundreds of people could be trapped on an island, dorian made landfall in cape hatteras bringing sustained winds nearing 90 miles per hour an hour with it. this image showing dorian's eye wall engulfing the barrier island entirely. overnight on south carolina's coastline, dorian leaving a trail of mass flooding and hundreds of thousands of power outages in its path. and today we're still monitoring the devastation that remains in the bahamas. the u.s. military and several

rescue organizations are fighting to save for lives from t the horrors after dorian's wrath left both areas in complete ruins. i want to send you down to ali velshi covering dorian live from moorehead city. the sun has come out this friday. >> the sun is out above us. there's some clouds here. this has been a remarkable change over the last ten hours or so when it was hurricane -- it was not hurricane force, but it was tropical-strength winds. it was strong. it was raining consistently overnight. there are trees down and some power outages across north carolina, but generally speaking, things are good. if you go about 65 miles northeast, that way, as the -- as you follow the u.s. coastline, into the atlantic, that's where the hurricane made

landfall earlier today at cape hatteras. the storm is well beyond that. it may hit coastal canada at some point. but it's off -- people in the united states are out of more danger of a direct hit by this, but it has left behind a wake of damage. in some places, down further the coast and a little further up, you saw storm surge damage, flooding, yesterday i was in charleston, there was flooding there. some of that is drying up. there is some structural damage and as you just reported, there appear to be, according to the governor and some video, people trapped on okracoke island. it would have been southeast of where the hurricane made landfall, but it would have largely passed over that area. it is interesting because that's a barrier island behind me. most people throughout all these barrier islands in the carolinas, these were under evacuation orders, bridges were

closed, and people had a lot of notice about getting out. it's a risky strategy to stay on a barrier island when you know there's a hurricane coming toward you. but a lot of people did and now there are rescues under way. the good news, stephanie, is that because we've been talking about this for so long, electrical crews, fema boat rescue, urban search and rescue, we saw a team in charlotte yesterday, national guard, all of these people were stationed and ready to go. any rescues that have to take place should take place in a quick fashion. we're going to keep a close eye on the island. let's go to simone boyce. what's the situation where you are? >> ali, the damage here in emerald isle is surreal. this is the damage left behind by a water spout that tore through this mobile home. as you can see behind me, it almost looks like a film set.

but this is the devastating reality for residents now starting to come back to this mobile home and try to pick up the pieces. you can see these mobile homes here just tossed around like rag dolls by this water spout that came through here yesterday morning. there's memories in here, photos, material possessions, everything except lives were lost. thankfully, no one died in this incident here yesterday and no one was injured and there have been several survivors that we've been talking to here in emerald isle like miss joanne. i want to introduce you to her now. you were inside of your home right here as the water spout was making its way through here. what did you hear? >> i heard the high wind come up and i was standing in my kitchen and my camper started raising up and i was holding on, praying. and about time i said dear god, it went back down.

and i looked and the inside had leaves -- >> but you're alive -- >> yes. >> and that is one of the most -- a true miracle that no one actually died in this incident here yesterday. and when you look around at the devastation here, this is such a tight knit community from what i hear. it's a family here. what was your reaction when you walked out of your trailer and saw all of this. >> i broke down and cried. i had good friends. >> reporter: we are so glad that you are safe. thank you so much for speaking with us. i also spoke with the mayor a little bit earlier today, ali, and he just reinforced that idea that this really is a family here. so over the next couple of days, they're going to be focusing on how to get these residents into safe places where they can stay while these homes are recovering. a lot of recovery ahead here in

emerald isle. >> i heard in your voice earlier yesterday morning when you were covering myrtle beach, you were covering the hurricane, you had had a tornado warning. in 15 years of covering weather -- hurricanes, the fear came with a tornado. tornados, you don't know where they're coming from. you know they might happen. and they wreck the kind of destruction that you just showed us. i want to go back to new york. al rocker, before you tell us about this storm, you and i talked about this the other day, the idea of tornados embedded in hurricanes or tornados, water spouts occurring in hurricanes, it's a danger because you might have a category one hurricane, but you may have a tornado that's more powerful than that that shreds houses. >> they spin up very quickly and drop. they happen a lot of times at dusk or overnight. you can't see them. so that is -- 24 tornados

yesterday alone as dorian was approaching, ali. and where simone is now in emerald isle, that's where seven-foot storm surge happened in two hours. so this -- while not making landfall just once in the united states, three times in the bahamas, once in the united states, it has -- it's a dangerous thing and it is created -- even though it was a category two, never making landfall substantially, look at all of the damage it's caused. >> where is this going now? >> it's now picked up forward speed, ali. it is currently 50 miles northeast of cape hatteras, 90-mile-per-hour winds. it's moving northeast at 17 miles per hour. but look at the scope and span of this thing. from the eye, we're now seeing rain moving into new york city

and long island and new jersey, 310 miles, 310 miles from the center up to new york. and that's just -- you can see these rain bands starting to make their way in. we do have hurricane watches and warnings for coastal canada, but we've got tropical storm warnings for eastern massachusetts, tropical storm warnings from ocean city all the way down to norfolk, cape hatteras, north carolina still under a hurricane warning. and here's the storm surge warning we've been talking about, ali, from norfolk, we could still see some storm surge. we're going to be watching this very closely. we're not quite done yet. and then the northeast has to deal with it as well. >> i always enjoy working with you, but i don't remember one particular storm that we have spent so much time on. we have thought about this thing well over a week and a half now. what a remarkable story. it wasn't thought to be the big one, but it's really been around

for a while. >> and you and i talked about that. we said don't pay attention to the category. that's the mistake people make. category five as we saw in the bahamas can be catastrophic and devastating, but it's the category ones and twos or even strong tropical storms that really can do some substantial damage over a wide swath, a wide area. so, again, we're not quite done. here in the northeast, as we are seeing, we could be looking at some pretty good swells, some pretty good coastal erosion. so people shouldn't relax just yet. >> al, thank you. we'll be talking about this for the next few days as well. steph, i'm going to hand it back to you. our viewers probably know this about us, but you've always got my back and that's why it's easy for me to be out here because i know you're taking care of things back there and actually looking after my well-being out here. i'm always appreciative of that.

>> and i'm appreciative that you're out there on the road. be safe. i want to take you now to the bahamas where rescue efforts are still under way after hurricane dorian ripped through the island nation leaving behind a massive humanitarian crisis. there are now at least 30 people dead in the bahamas and al just mentioned it, that number is expected to rise. some have said even soar. the minister of health warning the official death toll could be staggering. today residents of grand bahama and abaco islands are desperate for help and hope. >> we need help. he need help. that's all i can say. >> there was a guy that tried to save his mom, he lost his arm. but the current took her. another guy lost his son. >> we have a friend right now who was trying to save a little boy's life. >> our hope is gone. no clothes to wear, no food to

eat. >> i've lived in abacos all my life, but i tell people this was a 10. >> joining us now from nassau, bahamas, morgan chesky. tell us what you have seen there and how are those residents holding up? >> steph, it depends on exactly where you are because access bl ability one of the key issues. we had a chance to visit the town of marsh harbor which is where dorian first made landfall. and the people there that we met when we touched down there at the airport that had just reopened after being under water, they didn't know where to go, what to do, because everything they've ever known is gone. and we had a chance to tour that

town, just to get a feel for the struggle that this country now faces in the days and years ahead. >> reporter: a firsthand look at the devastation in marsh harbor. >> we have nothing left. all of our homes are destroyed. we have nowhere to go. >> reporter: we flew in for a firsthand look just hours after the airport reopened. greeted by dozens of storm survivors, desperate to get out. >> we have suffered quite a bit. don't allow us to suffer anymore. >> reporter: among those waiting to leave, charles moss and his girlfriend. >> and this is home? >> this was home. now we have nothing left, so we're trying to retreat. >> reporter: on every street in every direction, dorian's impact, unescapable. you can see the roads are still

completely covered under water making the relief effort here that much harder. days after the storm blew through, rescue still under way. this family pulled from their attic one by one, just in time. u.s. customs and coast guard helicopters flying nonstop missions, gary louis, his wife, and baby were saved by a chopper thursday. >> the water gone on the roof, i had to hold my baby up for an hour or two just to keep her from drowning. >> reporter: other survivors still in a state of shock. >> we lost everything. so right now we just in survival mode. >> it looked like we were bombed. >> reporter: cruise ships are bringing aid. thousands of meals being cooked and delivered to those in need. a lifeline for survivors.

>> the first thing we have to do is treat one another, take care of one another, because help is coming. >> reporter: that bahamian spirit stronger than ever. royal caribbean is diverting one of their cruise ships to the island. but keep in mind the need to help these people is going to be taking months if not longer. steph? >> are there areas on these islands that rescue missions haven't gotten to yet? >> are communities still out of reach. >> reporter: the coast guard has been able to reach some of those harder hit areas. they've rescued more than 200 people so far using helicopters. right now the critically injured, at least we're told, have been brought to nassau where they're taken to nearby hospitals to get that medical treatment. but the big concern right now, we're standing under an

unbearable sun and many of the people weren't suffering from critical injuries, but all were mildly dehydrated. that's only going to get worse and that's why it's so imperative that roads or opened so deliveries can get to everyone there who need it. >> thank you so much. if you're watching at home, you can help. if you want to help the people in the bahamas, you can donate a number of ways. here are just a few, the red cross, salvation army or team rubicon. every little bit helps. now we're going to turn to 2020. it is all about new hampshire for the next three days. the big show, tomorrow. most of the candidates are there courting voters ahead of that state party convention. how they plan to stand out from the pack. next. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you?

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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." 19 democratic candidates are going to new hampshire to make their case to voters. the state's democratic convention starts tomorrow. candidates are already on the ground today holding events to capture a still largely undecided voter class. new hampshire's first in the nation primary is a massive opportunity, especially for candidates who so far have struggled to really break out. joining me now vaughn hillyard.

mike, you're with joe biden. joe biden has done this dance twice before in new hampshire. this is his hird time. what's in store? >> well, he's just taken the stage in a venue right behind me here for his first of two events today. one of the reasons i love covering new hampshire politics here is you tend to see some volatility in the electorate here. one of the early states where the biden campaign is tempering expectations, it is here in new hampshire. one reason for that is that volatility. exit polls have shown that voters wait until the last minute to make up their mind. but often we also see neighboring state candidates doing exceptionally well. bernie sanders beat hillary clinton in 2016. john kerry from massachusetts won here in 2004, and so we see in those polls, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders doing well. how do they counter act that?

it starts with resources. it deals with relationships, they have deep relationships, especially with unions here. the firefighters union putting their first paid advertising for biden here in a newspaper ad. >> vaughn, let's talk kamala harris. in the state of new hampshire, she doesn't have a very big team on the ground. what's the game plan? >> reporter: she's only got about half the staff of that of elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg's campaign. right now as it stands, five months out from the new hampshire primary. she has 20 staffers on the ground, compare that to buttigieg and warren which have 55. but you look at the time spent. you can see where a lot of a candidate's focus is on the time they spend in places. she's been here four times since launching her campaign bid last winter. she is here, thooes going to be at this apple orchard. if you look at some of the apple

trees behind me, they're still full of apples. you're only beginning to now hear from folks beginning to pick off the trees and their candidates. for kamala harris, the campaign says, look, you've got to pick where you're going to invest your time and resources and you look at what hillary clinton lost by a substantial amount back in 2016 in her primary against bernie sanders who is of course from neighboring vermont. elizabeth warren from massachusetts is it this time around. the campaign team said they're very much able to make adjustments to their organization over the course of the months ahead. >> let's stay on elizabeth warren. the next debate, it's going to be the first time joe biden and elizabeth warren are sharing the stage. some have said it's biden versus warren, no surprise, biden's team is saying, no, that's not the case. is that really true? we've seen joe biden take subtle

shots at elizabeth warren. could we see joe biden making it clear he's the man with a track record of getting stuff done and progressives like elizabeth warren won't get those ideas done in d.c.? >> reporter: yeah, i think you really hit the nail on the head we've heard time and time again the former vice president express his frustration with these formats saying one minute for your own answer and half a minute to respond is not enough. they're down playing the expectations for that debate. but you have heard the vice president recently perhaps sending some signals about his approach in the debate. earlier this week at that cnn town hall he was asked for very specific details about his climate plan. he said plans are important, but what's more important is being able to execute on those plans, playing up his long-standing history working in the u.s. senate across the aisle.

that's his argument here. none of this gets done unless you can get things through congress and through the president's desk. >> thank you both so much. former starbucks ceo has announced he's officially not running for president. in a statement, he's said this, i've concluded that a campaign for the white house is not how i can best serve the country at this time. the money will be used to invest in people, organizations and ideas that moment honesty and civilly in our politics. earlier this year, howard schultz weighed running. he faced criticism from democrats that his bid would help elect president trump. jobs, today's jobs report fell short of expectations and it could have been worse, except for one thing that helped, that is next.

plus, what jay powell just said about the possibility of a recession. you're watching "velshi & ruhle" right here on msnbc.

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breaking news this hour, in switzerland, the federal reserve chair announcing that the fed is not forecasting or expecting a u.s. recession. >> how worried should we be about an upcoming u.s. recession, given all of the talk in the media, do you see a particular shock that could trigger a recession. >> so we're not forecasting or expecting a recession. as i mentioned, incoming data for the united states suggests that the most likely outlook for the united states economy is still moderate growth, strong labor market and inflation continuing to move back up. i went through the numbers, i'll say a little more about the labor market, payroll jobs are coming in at well above the level that new people are entering the labor market and the labor market is still tightening at the margins. the labor market continues to

strengthen. the consumer is in good shape and there's -- our main expectation is not at all that there will be a recession. >> this as just this morning the labor department reporting the economy added a modest 130,000 jobs in august, a number well below expectations, but, remember, we are already at full employment. it did fall short of wall street's hopes of 150,000 jobs. but that unemployment rate of 3.7% is still a positive one. july and june job figures were revised downward but you cannot compare this to where we were during the recession. it was a whole different picture. joining us now diane swank. jay powell is saying he doesn't see a recession in sight. what position does that put the fed in as far as a rate cut? president trump agrees the economy is great. that's what he wants jay powell to say. but at the same time he wants

the rate cut. how do you have the two? >> well, you do have a rate cut as an insurance against a recession. they're taking out some insurance that we don't get a recession. what they're concerned about is the uncertainty tax that we have on the economy because of the trade wars and they're saying that shaves quite a bit off of growth but not enough to get a recession yet along with a rate cut. we're going to see another rate cut in september. but i think it's important to remember that not everybody on the fed agrees with jay powell on having another rate cut and something that chairman powell made a point about earlier in his response was how little room the fed has to stimulate should we hit a recession. and i think that's very important. that's something very much on central bankers minds these day. do we hold to the fire or move now to try to prevent it and cushion against a recession. >> what's your take on the jobs report? >> i think it was a good jobs

report, we got more people participating in the labor market. but the disappointment, once you strip out the number of census hir hires you fell below the significance. i think that's really important is that we are starting to see a major slow down, but nothing to fall off of a cliff yet. we're not in a recession yet, but the bottoming of the unemployment rate, unless we see it move down more, this is a time we start to worry about tipping points, where we keep seeing revisions down that suggests we're overestimating our expectations and we need to start thinking about how much of a slowdown we'll have going forward. i think it's right for the fed to go ahead and cut as an insurance policy against recession, i am worried that we could have the trade situation snowball into a recession in 2020. >> are you concerned about wage growth? many people are employed, there are still so many that are simply saying they cannot make ends meet. that doesn't seem to be changing when you look at wage growth.

>> no, it's not. one of the interesting things has been the participation rate has come up almost entirely because women have come back in the labor force. it's mostly hispanic women. it was also prime-age women who were more educated, but i think it's really interesting that that's good they're coming back. the wage growth, this is something that chairman powell underscored in his conference was the wage growth is at the low end of the wage scale, that's great. but there's nothing in the middle and nothing to graduate up to. we haven't seen that trickle up. the fact that we already seen the high of 3.4% this year even though the labor market is tight, we're not seeing wages accelerate more. this is a small shadow of the kind of wage gains we saw back in the 1990s. >> the trump administration floating the idea that they want to see mortgage giants go

private. what's your take? >> there's no question that the situation in the mortgage market is a problem. it's been a problem since prior to the crisis, and then we put them in conservatorship. the problem is taking them private especially at a time so light in the expansion, it's not clear who's going to buy that debt, and, remember, it was the federal reserve back in march of 2009 that stepped in and said they were going to buy that mortgage backed security that is restarted what was a frozen mortgage market during the height of the crisis. i'm a little nervous about the timing being so late in the expansion. i wish that they had addressed early or shelf it after we get through this period of trade. >> thank you so much. when we come back, the good news, hurricane dorian didn't hit alabama. the bad news, president trump will not stop backing down from the hurricane was going to hit alabama. and it's not the first, second

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♪ welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." hurricane dorian slammed the bahamas this week and today rescue efforts are still under way in both grand bahama and

abka abaco as residents remain desperate for health. there are now 30 dead and that number is expected to rise. the official death toll could be staggering. joining us now, salvation army disaster services division, clarence. thank you for all your organization has been doing. what kind of aid is most needed? >> right now we need financial aid, of course, so that we can buy food and water, tarps and clothing, medical supplies, shelter, it's all the essentials. >> how does hurricane dorian compare to so many other disasters that you have had to face. >> we faced five major hurricanes here in the last four years and this one is by far the worst. how would you describe it? what has it been like?

what have you seen? >> the destruction is momentumle. it's leveled everything and what didn't get leveled got flooded. and put the two together and it's disaster. >> since these are a total of 700 islands and the devastation is so great, do you believe a lot of residents could have to leave permanently or for months, if not years. >> it's hard to say. these people are very resilient and they will try to rebuild as quickly as they can. certainly in the short term, some may have no choice but to leave for a while. >> all right. thank you so much for everything that you're doing. i appreciate it, clarence ingram. >> if i could ask people to donate to the salvation army, that would be great. >> back here in the united states, folks in the carolinas are facing extreme flooding from

the hurricane and yet the president of the united states spending his time defending his claim that the state of alabama was in the path of dorian's destruction. he's tweeted nine times about alabama and directed his homeland security advisory to issue a statement defending his inaccuracies. the president has played this game before, inflating his inauguration crowd size, saying mexico is going to pay for the border wall and down playing the price americans are paying for the trade war with china. joining me now is eugene scott. this is not a new game that the president is playing, but is the president being successful at this point that giving the media something to focus on that has absolutely nothing to do with kitchen-table issues, many of the issues that the president voted for that he hasn't

delivered on? >> i certainly think in some ways he is. he's in an individual war, primarily with the media and on something ---over something that doesn't affect americans significantly. but there are certain members of the media who are trying to draw parallels to other situations and communicate why this is so troublesome. it's not about the specifics of this incident, as much as it is about a president who's not looking at the most recent information made available to him as possible, as much as he should. also someone who's not willing to admit that perhaps they had the wrong information, couple indicated something incorrectly. >> where do we go from here? the president tripled down on this. it's not going away, and true trump supporters are finding the whole thing funny. what are actual government

officials, local officials, in places like alabama, what have they said about it? >> well, most of them have just tried to get the correct information to their residents regardless of what they're getting from the white house and other national sources. most people are not looking to president trump's twitter feed to understand how they're supposed to respond in a hurricane or a natural disaster, anyway. but i think one thing we can do is focus on the fact that as you reported earlier, places like the carolinas actually are flooding and there are other communities that have been affected by these storms and there are ways that these individuals can get the services they need and get the information they need from their political leaders to get through all of this difficult time. >> the trump campaign now selling their own permanent markers saying set the record straight. and they're making a claim this is another example of the media ganging up on the president, misquoting him. but the media hasn't misquoted the president. the president said it five days

ago and it's the president who continues to make this thing a story. >> right. the media is being misrepresent bid the trump campaign once again which is not a surprise. but this does well with trump's base as we all know. they support the president unconditionally. especially when he has an enemy and the enemy is the mainstream media. there has to be some type of awareness about how this looks to them. this looks like the latest example of the trump campaign trying to use an incident to profit for the trump campaign such as selling these pens over something that was a very serious issue. >> other members of the administration are bending themselves in knots to back up the president's claims. similar to several weeks ago when the president was at the g-7 and talking about phone calls between the u.s. and china that apparently didn't happen. steve mnuchin sat next to the president. now you've got people from

homeland security having to back up the president's claims. how unprecedented is it to see members of an administration to do this while the president doubles down on misinformation? >> it's unprecedented for this administration, but not within this administration. this is not the first time we've seen people close to the president have to throw themselves in circles to make what he said seem at least slightly true. but this is the new norm and i think what many voters are having to ask themselves moving forward is, are they tired of this? or do they want more of this? is this the direction they want to see the country go into for four more years. right now most of the polls we see suggest they don't. >> all right. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. when we come back, would you ever confess to a crime that you did not commit? you'd probably say no way. but research says under the right conditions, you might. lester holt's incredible look at

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country in our justice for all series. lester holt is investigating false confessions, innocent people admitting to crimes they didn't commit. it's hard to imagine, but as lester found out, it's much more common than you think. >> would you believe me if i told you i would never ever confess to something i didn't do. >> i believe that you believe that. that's what everybody says. >> but it's not what everybody does, says this man who was researched false concessions for over 30 years. he calls confessions the gold standard of criminal evidence. >> legal scholars in the u.s. have recognized that when you have a confession, you're going to get a conviction at trial. people have assumed confession evidence to be potent. >> among the most memorable false confessions, the central park 5 case. >> this is my first rape. >> teens who after hours of

interrogation confessed to the beating and rape of a female jogger. >> when you're in that position, those four walls, when you're i and you're with seasoned detectives, poised, celebrated, have been working 10 to 25 years -- >> their convictions were vacated in 2002 based on dna evidence and the confession of a previously convicted rapist. >> the innocence project says 28% involved defendants who made follows confessions and almost half of them were under 21 years old. >> when you start looking at false confession cases you're looking at interrogations that last six hours, eight hours, 10, 12, 20 hours. >> no food. they kept asking the same questions over and over again. >> in 1989 he was 16 when he was

questioned by peak skill new york police about the murder of rape of a classmate. hungry and alone for hours with detectives who made what he says were false promises of freedom, he cracked. >> he added that if i did as they wanted that they would stop what they're doing,ic go home afterwards and i made up a story based on information they gave me during the course of the interrogation. >> he was convicted and spent 16 years in prison before he was exonerated in 2006 based on a re-examination of dna evidence. >> by the way, the detective can lie legally to the defendant. >> in the united states, a detective can legally lie about the evidence to a suspect. >> a 2000 report on his case by the d.a.'s office point out adolescents are at a higher risk for confessing to a crime they

did not commit and called out detectives for selective recordings. his confession were not video taped. >> everything in basic psychology and research suggests that if there is a camera present in the. roo, detectives will likely dial doing the use of certain tactics they know judges and juries won't like when they see it. >> today he fights for wrongfully convicted and is on his way to becoming a lawyer. his story a remind that are not all confessions are what they seem. >> i just wanted to go home. i wanted them to stop. i wanted to get out of there. >> tonight, be sure to check out a very special one hour date line where lester holt goes into prison for his series. and les you're holt will hold a town hall inside prison sunday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. as another monster storm

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pummelled the bahamas islands and the southeastern united states. it is all a stark remind they are storms have been getting more frequent and a lot more intense. several presidential candidates took the moment to release new plans to combat climate change, cory booker, pete buttigieg, kamala harris, and elizabeth warren. their strategies include a variety of policies. all of these candidates are pushing for a zero a mission economy by, at the latest, 2050. joining me now the cofounder of our daily planet, an independent environmental news service. you said before that the gold standard of climate plans came from washington governor jay inslee, but here's the thing, he's dropped out of the race. he wasn't even polling at 1%. given that truth, how much of a priority is climate change really to the american voters? >> hey, stephanie. i think governor inslee made an

important impact in that when he entered the race his entire focus was on climate change. therefore we brought the conversation of a lot of this primary process to the issue. and when he exited the race, he left his six very detailed climate proposals as open source material for other candidates to emulate and use and if they're president to implement. while he didn't have to polling numbers, i think that his impact on this election process has really been felt. >> in terms of implementation, of all plans out there, which policies stand out to you as not just the most effective but the most possible to get passed and implemented? >> i think the thing here is democrats really need to use this primary process when climate change is having such a big moment and is being talked about like it will be at our

upcoming msnbc forum on september 19th and 20th. to really engage the american voters who are concerned about climate change, and polls show this, and they want to federal government to take action, to show that at democrats are the party willing to do something about this. and in the hopes that they win the white house, this a win the senate, and that they keep the house. because otherwise implementing any of these policies is going to become incredibly challenges. as we have seen the president obama you can do a lot through executive action, but that can also be easily undone by the next president. i think democrats really have to sell their story here now that they have the chance. >> can you help us understand this distinction? bernie sanders proposed declaring climate change a national emergency. is that an important distinction? >> that's an incredible important distinction. that should be asked of all these candidates. when the president declares

something a national emergency as we have seen president trump do with immigration that, gives the president of the united states executive powers that he or she can use to reappropriate funds for the climate emergency. i think that's a really important litmus test for how far the president or contenders are willing to go should they be elected president in using executive action. because senator kamala harris, she dodge that had question when she was asked at cnn, their town hall, and i think that's an incredibly important distinction to make and really we should be asking all these candidates where they stand. >> all right, thank you so much. >> thank you, stephanie. >> definitely made us a little better and smarter. do not forget, join us here september 19th and 20th for msnbc's own climate forum 2020 in partnership with georgetown university and our daily planet. chris hays and my partner ali

velshi will be hearing from the presidential candidates. beto o'rourke, kamala harris, and elizabeth warren have not yet sign on, but here taps good news. they've got time. thank you for watching this hour of "velshi & ruhle" this week j right now, morgan radford picks up our coverage. great to see you. >> good to see you, hope you have a good weekend. good afternoon to all of you. i'm morgan bradford in for katie tur. hurricane dorian made its first landfall in the u.s. today after battering the atlantic coastline for the better part of a week. dorian came ashore as a category 1 hurricane in north carolina's outer banks. with it came landfall a big storm surge. by tonight, dorian's impact will be felt all the way in new england on the outer edge of cape cod and then other the weekend as far north at