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being attacked politically is not the same as a war zone. they're not the same thing. if donald trump jr. wants to see the difference he should go to a war zone. he's young enough to enlist and i'm sure the military would be happy to have him. >> paul, before i let you go, arlington cemetery, new proposals being instituted to potentially limit who can be buried there. your quick response. >> they're running out of space, it's a real logistical challenge. it underscores how many world war ii veterans we're losing, thousands every month and we've got to get creative in figuring out how to honor them and really respect and protect the sacred space that is arlington. >> paul, i wish we had more time for this conversation. thank you for being with us on what i know is an important day. thank you for your service. and to all the veterans watching for their service as well and in this country. craig melvin picks up in new york now. >> hallie, thank you. craig melvin msnbc headquarters in new york city as president trump spends the day marking veterans day in manhattan,
staring down a pivotal and diswhoic week ahead, the first public hearings set to start in the impeachment process while the schedule is set for three key witnesses to testify there are still some major questions that remain. among them, will former national adviser john bolton testify? also undermining the president, that's what former u.n. ambassador nikki haley claims former secretary of state rex tillerson and john kelly tried to do. the stunning revelations she's reportedly making in her new book about their attempts to "save the country." and center of attention, new fights emerging among 2020 democrats in the moderate lane which may get even more crowded. we'll get into that in a moment. we start this morning with the house getting ready to bring the impeachment fight straight to the american people. democrats set to bring in multiple career diplomats to help them make their case for impeachment to the public. let's go right to the action. down in d.c., joining me now msnbc's garrett haake on capitol
hill. nbc's geoff bennett is at the house. and mr. haake i'll start with you, it is going to be a very busy week there. one question, one of many questions, i should say, that still lingers, perhaps the biggest right now, will's former national security adviser john bolton testify, what do we know about that? >> it's looking less and less likely that john bolton will testify despite his attorney leaving bread crumbs suggesting he's got more knowledge about specific meetings and conversations about ukraine. democrats want that knowledge but they don't want to wait for it. bolton has made it clear he went testify without a subpoena and he won't testify until this court case in d.c. circuit court is settled involving a former deputy of his, raising constitutional questions about whether or not he could be compelled to do so. that won't happen until mid-december at the soonest. that does not work with democrats' timelines, they are prepared to move on without him and we are relying on testimony of others who worked with him to describe his anger and
frustration at what he was learning about what the president and rudy giuliani were up to in ukraine. >> garrett, what about more transcripts from closed door testimony, expecting anymore of that today? >> it's possible we'll get some today but with most of the federal government not working today i would be surprised if we see it today rather than tomorrow. but i think democrats have used the release of these transcripts to tell a story. they've been very deliberate about the order in which they've laid out the transcripts. so look for that next drop of transcripts to likely be some of the folks they plan to call in the next round of open hearings. we'll learn a lot from whatever the next texts appear. >> geoff, john bolton's lawyer has filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to decide whether potential witnesses should follow a congressional subpoena to testify or white house order not to comply. >> yeah. >> learned a while ago that the president's own acting chief of staff mick mulvaney is now trying to join that lawsuit. what more do we know about that? >> yeah, craig and let me explain this. this development is as confusing
as it is curious, right, so this speaks to the case that garrett just mentioned. you have charles coverman, a long time associate, and friend, really, of john bolton. they both -- both men share the same lawyer, right. a couple weeks ago coverman made the argument that, hey, look, as a lowly public servant, as a white house official i should not be the arbiter of this constitutional question. on one hand you have the house trying to enforce the subpoena, the house of representatives forcing me to testify. on the other hand you have the executive branch, you have the white house saying you cannot testify as a former white house official. coverman's point was i'm not the one to decide this, a federal judge should decide it. the judge in that case has set oral arguments for december 10th. you have democrats making the point that there's no time to wait. these public impeachment hearings could be well done by december 10th. and so even as mick mulvaney is now trying to join this lawsuit democrats have already made the case that they're prepared to
move forward in their drawing what they're calling an adverse inference. meaning if mick mulvaney had information to clear president trump democrats say he would be forthcoming with it. the fact that he's not, democrats say, is instructive and says a lot. so they are moving forward, assuming that whatever he has to share would be bad news for president trump: and i sometimes get the question why aren't democrats enforcing these subpoenas? again, there's no time. if they tried civil contempt that could kick it to the courts for months, perhaps years. criminal contempt would be left up to bill barr, the attorney general, to prosecute. that's likely not going to happen, craig. >> geoff, while i have you, let's talk about lieutenant colonel alexander vindman here, reports over the weekend that vindman had been, i guess, fired essentially. do we know what's true and what's not true? >> apparently the outside reporting was erroneous. there had been some reporting he has been retaliated against and moved off of his post from the national security council.
vindman is a military -- he's an army officer who was detailed to the nsc, and preparing to talk with you, craig, i reached to his attorney. he says vindman is still detailed to nsc, we're not aware of any changes in his status. obviously any retaliatory action against vindman on a day when we honor our military heroes would be reprehensible. now, late last month you had chuck schumer, the top senate democrat who wrote a letter to the army chief of staff trying to make sure that vindman and any other person in his position would have the same sort of protections afforded to a whistle-blower. to be clear vindman says he's not the whistle-blower but you have congressional democrats trying to give him the same kind of protections afforded to someone in that kind of position, craig. >> geoff bennett at the house, and garrett haake at the capitol. let's bring in abby orman, and rick tyler, an msnbc political analyst.
gabby, this is going to be historic week there in washington. what do you expect to see over the next few days as republicans and democrats begin to take this fight public? >> well, two things, i think, most of washington will be looking at this week, craig. number one, what is the defense strategy for house republicans? obviously house leader -- sorry house minority leader kevin mccarthy has moved in jim jordan on the house intelligence committee to ensure there's tough questioning on all the witnesses that are brought forth. we're going to see them really become the first line of defense for president trump this week and it will be important to take a look at what their messaging is, whether they can have a coherent set of talking points out of each witness testimony because they're competing, number two, with democrats who this week will have their first opportunity to make the case to the american public as to why president trump should be
impeached and removed from office. there are two competing things happening this week between democrats and republicans and it should give us really a first glass at who's going to have the more effective messaging and who will tell that in a way that the really move the needle with voters heading into 2020. >> democrats, rick, by our count, have heard roughly 100 hours of testimony but there may be more details left to uncover. attorney for the president's former national security adviser john bolton says that bolton has more information, part of this new story on axios's website. while others sat and listened in meetings with trump, bolton distinguished himself by filling legal pads with contemporaneous notes on what was said in the room. how nervous should the president and his allies be about the possibility that john bolton might testify? >> look, i don't think the democrats -- i'm not sure it's advantageous for the democrats to have john bolton testify. i do think he's one very wild
card is he has a $2 million book deal. the democrats should subpoena his notes. that would have to go through the legal process as well but i think it would be a good case to make of getting those notes and use those notes to further the case without having john bolton as a wild card up, you know, testifying and facing questions from both democrats and republicans. i think that just has the potential to go awry. in today's public they just can't, they're not going to digest 100 hours of testimony that the democrats have already heard. they've got to narrow it down to what the story is really all about, an arms for jerk deal, extortion. the president would have us believe that of all the corrupt places in the world that we give money to, and corrupt places that he has relationships with, like kim jong-un who's a
murderer and vladimir putin who's a hostile -- i would say an enemy, but some say he's a hostile adversary. of all the places in the world of corruption we have to believe his main concern for corruption was, in fact, in ukraine and by coincidence it involved his major political rival. that's a bridge too far. >> rick, let's talk strategy here for a moment come wednesday and the republican defense, there's a person familiar with the white house's thinking who's telling nbc news "some key hill gop allies of the president are looking to the combatted brett kavanaugh confirmation hearings as a model for what they view as a successful effort to chip away at the credibility of a potentially damaging witness," a combative hearing like what we saw with kavanaugh, is that the winning strategy here for republicans? >> they may try to replicate that and i would concede they had some success in doing that in the kavanaugh hearing but it's going to be very difficult to do when you have career
foreign service agents, people who worked for the united states government to further our interests around the world, particularly with the first three, including the former ambassador yovanovitch. people will say -- they may not be familiar with what goes on, to try to further our interest in the world and what they do. these people, i don't know them personally but they strike me as people with the genuine interest of the united states in mind. you're going to see that donald trump, through rudy giuliani, and through very -- two par nez and furman, under indictment in the district of new york, if you did a 20-minute google search on either one of them you would have seen they were really bad characters and they went over there to undermine the whole united states legitimate foreign policy. so we're going to have to believe that giuliani and his clowns against career foreign service agents and that's what
the people are going to see and i think that's what i hope that they'll have to decide on who's telling the truth. >> meanwhile, gabby, a short time ago, a few hours ago, i should note here, president trump tweeting on this veterans day, shifty adam schiff will only release doctored transcripts. we haven't even seen the documents and are restricted from, get this, having a lawyer. republicans should put out their own transcripts. schiff must testify as to why he made up a statement for me and read it to all. gabby, unless i missed something here, has a republican so far questioned the accuracy of the transcripts? >> no, they haven't and in fact that's one of the things that's made the defense for republicans so difficult because what is contained in the transcript of that phone call on july 25th essentially a number of republicans have said is damning information. the president explicitly made a request to the president of ukraine to investigate his political rivals and seemingly suggested that any foreign aid
to the country would hinge on that being fulfilled. of course republicans have found themselves in this twisted way of sort of defending the president, trying to figure out how do we square what he said in that transcript, what we know, what is public now, every american can see, with defending him and saying that he didn't violate his oath of office. and that's really going to be something that we need to pay close attention to this week. as i was saying earlier this is the first test that republicans and democrats will have to bring their message to the american public to talk to voters about what impeachment means and whether or not the president actually did commit high crimes and misdemeanors and the president with the tweets that he issued this morning, with the tweeting that he partakes in every morning, can really stomp on that message almost with a moment's notice. so that's going to be one thing that house republicans will likely have some difficulty navigating is how do they ensure that while they're trying to craft their own message on impeachment the president doesn't get in the way of that.
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as the impeachment inquiry surrounding president trump intensifies with public hearings this week there are new revelations over the chaos inside his white house. former ambassador to the united nations nikki haley claims she was recruited by two of the president's top advisers to undermine him. former secretary of state rex tillerson and former white house chief of staff john kelly. according to the post haley writes in her new book "kelly and tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president they weren't being insubordinate, they were trying
to save the country." haley doubled down on her claims in a recent interview. >> instead of saying that to me they should have been saying that to the president, not asking me to join them on their side bar plan. it should have been go tell the president what your differences are and quit if you don't like what he's doing. but to under mine a president is really a very dangerous thing. >> joining me now "washington post" senior political reporter aaron blake and rick tyler decided to come back with me, thank you, rick, rick, start with you, the former ambassador to the u.n., no secret that she did, in fact, oppose some of the president's policies. at times she certainly -- she told me she opposed certainly his tone occasionally. but now she's saying that tillerson and kelly tried to undermine the president and called it offensive. what do you make of the claims? what do you make of her timing? >> well, she's trying to sell a book.
you know. but look. trying to surround a principal, a president in this case with people on staff to influence policy, i suppose you could put undermining with that but tillerson and the kelly had the best interest of the country when trying to influence the president in a better direction, to have better tone. when nikki haley said that they should have confronted him directly, we don't know they didn't. what did she confront the president about? she said she did but now that she's not under his spell or in his administration we don't hear anything about what she confronted the president about and she also gave away in this "new york times" interview that she sees nothing wrong with the president calling president zelensky of ukraine and issuing what is pretty clear by everybody who actually listened to the call a quid pro quo. she is supporting the president on that. and she continues to be a
sycophant of the president. i don't know what political future she has. she's somehow betting this trump support will last beyond trump. i think it will collapse and reverse the other way and she'll be left without a political future, which is where i think she is now. she's given up her moral -- she's given up a moral standing for political expediency which again i outlined she's going to lose that support. she will not have trump support because it won't be there. >> aaron, meanwhile on sunday the president endorsing the book, it would seem, president trump promoting and praising his former ambassador's book. how much of this, aaron, do we suspect is the ambassador trying to make sure that she's aligned with the president, perhaps trying to realign herself with this president? >> it's always been a fine line nikki haley has walked. she's arguably done it better than most people have. she found ways to criticize what he said about charlottesville and certain other things that transpired when she was u.n. ambassador.
there was that big dust-up with larry kudlow where she said he suggested she had gotten confused about something. she said i don't get confused. i think this is a pretty solid indicator that she thinks her political future relies, in part, at least, on not alienating the president's base of support. i think the other interesting thing here, though, is, you know, obviously this is probably somewhat of a calculation for nikki haley. and her political future. but the fact is here, we just had somebody who is confirming that two of the president's top cabinet advisers were going to this great length to try and recruit people to at least stand in his way to some degree. she says undermine. i'm sure they'd probably phrase it a different way but we've been looking for who these people are ever since that anonymous "new york times" op-ed and here we have the united nations ambassador effectively confirming that this went to the highest levels of the trump administration. i think she's trying to cozy up to the president to some degree
but this is also not exactly an affirmation of his leadership given the top aides were feeling that way. >> you wrote that was the biggest take away from all of this, two of the president's -- one of his cabinet officials and his chief of staff sounding the alarm. tillerson didn't immediately provide a comment to nbc news about this but general kelly said given the most ethical staffing advice, then guilty as charged. this isn't the first time we've heard from tillerson and kelly how the president should run his white house. take a listen. >> why didn't you deny calling the president a moron? >> you know, that's a really old question. >> you understand that by not answering the question some people thought you were confirming the story? >> i think i've answered the question. >> you think you answered the question? >> i've answered the question. >> so whatever you do don't hire
a yes man, someone that's going to tell you -- won't tell you the truth. don't do that. because if you do i believe you'll be impeached. >> rick tyler, no matter the ambassador's intentions here to aaron's point, i mean, how bad -- for the president, is this claim that not just two of his advisers, his chief of staff, his secretary of state, thought that he needed to be undermined. >> well, again, i dispute the word. it's not undermining if you have a different idea of -- and i think both of these men wanted the president to succeed and i think what they were trying to do is to move him in a direction where he would succeed and by the way kelly was right. without -- you know, by not -- by hiring mulvaney and getting a yes man the president got impeached. that is what happened. he predicted it. and that's history. and remember, all these seasoned, more mature, more
level headed people are all gone now, right, the administration is just full of, you know, lackeys and people who couldn't get a job otherwise and, you know, the comps department, i don't know what they do. we haven't had a press conference in close to a year now. advisers, people who are smart in giving the president good advice are being purged out. again, in place of them we've put clowns like rudy giuliani and his clown show, going to be put front and center. ask this just goes on and on and it can only get worse and worse because it continues to feed the worst instincts this president has. >> rick tyler, we'll live it there, rick, thank you. aaron, always good to have you. you can hear more from former ambassador nikki haley tomorrow morning. she'll join us on "today." coming up, rush to the center, 2020 democrats, fighting to clean the moderate title as michael bloomberg tests the waters. and pete buttigieg, pete
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emerging among the 2020 democratic contenders has politico puts it one is a fight for the stcenter lane, that particular fight seems to involve pete buttigieg, joe biden and michael bloomberg, battling liberal elites. mayor buttigieg is catching flak from another moderate candidate, senator amy klobuchar. senator klobuchar is calling him out, really, as on example of a double standard in the race. ins to bring in josh letterman in new hampshire, on the road with the buttigieg campaign as they travel through the granite state on a bus tour. josh, let's be honest here, i mean buttigieg has been taking it from all sides for a couple days now. what exactly is senator klobuchar's issue with the mayor? how has he responded to that issue? >> yeah, he is increasingly under attack from rivals as he
surges into second place in iowa and moves closer to the next presidential debate for democrats next week in atlanta. amy klobuchar's beef is she says there's a double standard if her resume was as short as the buttigieg resume she would have never made it onto the debate stage. when we talked with pete buttigieg in our news interview this morning about that he didn't exactly disagree. take a listen. >> well, there's no denying that sexism is real, that it's a problem, that it's a force impacting politics today. >> leaving amy klobuchar's comments aside, it's a fair question, if you were a female with your same level of experience would you have made it as far as you have in this race? >> i certainly hope so but i have the experience and the, you know, the person that i am. and my job is to go out there and communicate, not just my experience, but my vision for the country. >> and, craig, we've been talking also with some of the
female put buttigieg supporters here in new hampshire. they say amy klobuchar has a point but they don't feel that disqualifies pete buttigieg from the race either. >> what's he saying about bloomberg's possible entry into this thing? >> very, very little, craig. pete buttigieg does not want to talk at all about mayor bloomberg. although we did ask him about bloomberg's decision if he does run to skip the first four states. mayor pete saying that he thinks that the first states are really important, and should be a subject and a focus for the candidates that they are running here. >> all right, josh lederman traveling with mayor pete buttigieg in new hampshire. thank you, josh. i want to bring in jonathan capehart, an msnbc contributor. and also amy allison, who is president of democracy in color, the founder of she the people. good to have both of you. mr. capehart i'm starting with
you, an article that apparently hot off the presses here, you just wrote. about your old boss michael bloomberg. and we should note here for the purposes of this conversation that you did advise mayor bloomberg, i believe, on all three of his campaigns for mayor if not mistaken. >> no, just the first campaign. >> all right. >> the first successful one, yes. >> i'm glad -- i love how you worked that in too. you write, and i'm reading this live here, that michael bloomberg will not be the democratic presidential nominee, and you lay out one reason primarily. and it would seem to be stop and frisk. is that right? >> yes, that is right. look, we've been talking for months now, and we've seen several special elections to prove it, that african-americans are the foundation of the democratic party base and african-american women in particular are the bedrock of that foundation of the democratic party base. so it stands to reason that if no one is going to win the
democratic nomination without significant african-american support, then mayor bloomberg jumping into the race comes into the race, if assuming he actually does it, hobbled by new york city's experience with stop and frisk. the mayor was mayor for 12 years. it was a policy that he inherited from mayor giuliani. he defended it vociferously. it was taken to court. and in 2013 a federal judge ruled that the practice of stop and frisk was not unconstitutional, but how the nypd was using it was unconstitutional. and even after that ruling mayor bloomberg defended it vociferously. and he is going to have to explain why he supported that policy to an electorate that views stop and frisk not as a one off policy or discreet policy, but a policy that was exercised in new york city and
in other cities around the country that is part of an overall system that has targeted and oppressed african-americans and latinos, particularly african-american men and latino men. >> you also point out, in your article, not to give away the entire thing. we certainly want people to read it but you also point out what's been pointed out before is that stop and frisk actually wasn't effective either. >> that is correct. >> amy, meanwhile, "new york times" headline this weekend reads why buttigieg annoys his political rivals. "many of their campaigns have complained about the attention and cash afforded to his campaign, he's too inexperienced and liz accomplishments don't merit the outsized appeal he has to donors, his eye rolls from olding rivals who view him as a know it all.
senator klobuchar's gripe about him falls into this idea, amy. is this why pete buttigieg has struck such a nerve? >> i don't think so. i don't think it has to do with his age or the length of his resume. really, his politics need to appeal to the base of the democratic party. i think he's really challenged right now with appealing to a broad base of black voters, in particular black women. it's not the length of his resume, it's the content of his policies and his experience outreaching and connecting with black voters, as jonathan pointed out. you just can't within a nomination without appealing to those voters and essentially building a coalition that's going to ultimately be successful. i think there is a sense of sour grapes among some of the more experienced candidates who find themselves six months into a campaign and polling at the very low numbers and you can point to a lot of factors. >> yeah. >> but the fact is that polling numbers and money are not good
indicators of who's ultimately going to be successful. it's that coalition that buttigieg and all the other candidates need to build in order to be successful at the polls. >> let's talk about vice president biden for a moment here, mr. capehart. politico dives into the biden campaign a little bit noting a dull reality where he is the apparent front runner nationally but at the same time slipping in iowa, slipping in new hampshire, the piece notes the explanation for the discrepancy run the gamut. the white iowa and new hampshire electorates play against the strength of moderates and african-americans, some defenders argue. skeptics say it shows that voters are watching him most closely are underwhelmed. is that enough, jonathan? >> look, i would have to -- i've been watching his dual reality
play out despite so called gaffes and foibles and misstatements of stories, things like that, those of us in the press beating him up a month or so ago and his poll numbers remaining high. and i think it's because he is strongly supported, particularly by african-american voters and so that's why i think his national poll numbers are up. but i think it also says in that story that if vice president biden doesn't do well in iowa when people actually go and vote, and if he doesn't do well in new hampshire when people actually go and vote, that the momentum from that could move against him. but until people actually go out and vote i think we're just going to have to get used to this dual reality. particularly for the biden campaign but for all the campaigns. i'm sure it is very frustrating for, say, senator elizabeth warren to be ahead in new hampshire, doing well in those early states and yet on the national level she is running
behind vice president biden. so we've got, what, less than 100 days before actually find out what the electorate thinks about these candidates. >> jonathan capehart, aimee allison, i wish we had more time. long time new york congressman peter cane says he will not seek reelection in 2020, king represented his long island district for more than 25 years. he joins a growing list of house republicans who will be sitting out next year's election. congressman king tells nbc news he intends to vote against impeachment and that he will support the president for reelection. get your squad together. michelle obama is calling. how the former first lady is using her celebrity voting squad to get more americans to the polls. tom hanks, megan rapinoe, lin-manuel miranda. will it work?
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former first lady michelle obama is rallying a star studded voting squad ahead of the 2020 election, part of her when we all vote initiative aimed at increasing voter participation. >> last year we went big. millions of new voters made their voices heard for the first time. now the stakes are even higher. that's why i've been reaching out to some friends to expand my voting squad for the year ahead.
>> when we all vote. >> when we all vote. >> we can change the world. >> i'm joined by stephanie young, managing director for communications, culture and partnerships for when we all vote. she also worked in the obama white house. tell me a little bit more about this thing, when we all vote, and what motivated the first lady to work on voter participation efforts in particular. >> well, thank you so much for having me, first and foremost. so when we all vote launched in 2018 when mrs. obama and some of the co-chairs you saw in the video decided to start this initiative in order to increase voter participation each and every election but really want to change the culture around voting. we want to start a different conversation around voting, don't want to talk about voting when it's a big election but we want voting to be a part of the everyday conversation and we want to help americans with the tools that they need to make the choice to go out to vote. >> how do we do that, how do we change the conversation around vote sng y
vo voting? you make a good point, every two years, all right, we don't talk about it when there's no big election. >> one fifth of eligible americans are not actually registered today. even knthough we saw a big turnt in two-thirds didn't cast their ballots. we have to talk about voting in a totally different way. it's about making a choice, not necessarily your responsibility. i think that a lot of americans look at it as a responsibility. how do we help them make that choice? we also know there's a lot of confusion around it. people think they have to go to the dmv or other places to register. they don't realize how easy it actually could be. obviously there are states and places where there are plenty of barriers around registering and voting. but it is a process that we're able to help move people through pretty quickly, and we want to be that partner. we want to be that group and that organization that you come to and we want to walk you through the process. that's where voting squads come
in. we want people to sign up today to apply to become a voting squad captain and help to register folks in their networks, in their communities, in their jobs. we will give them all the tools they need to do those things. >> how do they do that? >> they go to when we all vote.org and they click on take action. and they can apply to be a voting squad captain. >> to be clear this is not a partisan effort. >> correct. and that's why mrs. obama wanted it not to be a partisan effort because she wanted us to not make this about one candidate or one party or one election. this is about voting at all tiem times, voting for positions you probably don't always think about but making sure it's something that as americans we realize we have power. >> yeah. >> in our voice and that is our vote. and we'll give you the tools that you need to help you to do this. >> she going to be out on the trail a fair amount next year? >> absolutely. i think she will be out as long as with all of our other co-chairs, last year in 2018 we
had over 2,000 events, two we are -- with her. we intend to put forth a full-court press yet again to ensure we're out in the community. >> the first lady made a powerful statement recently about discrimination, at the obama foundation summit. i'm going to share it for our viewers and listeners on sirius satellite radio. >> i can't make people not afraid of black people. i don't know what's going on. i can't explain what's happening in your head. but maybe, if i show up every day as a human, is a good human doing wonderful things, loving my family, loving your kids, taking care of things that i care about, that maybe, just maybe, that work will pick away at the scabs of your discrimination. >> what role do you think race is going to play in next year's election? >> well, i mean, i think if we're honest race plays a role
in everyday life. you know, as an african-american woman i walk around and race plays a role. when you check into a hotel, when you get into a car. and i think that we can't ever look past race. >> yeah. >> i think the beauty about where we are in this moment is that people are more conscious about race. we're -- it seems like this country is willing to have a little bit more of a conversation about race. so i think just as it has played a role in each and every election previously and prior to this one it's going to play a role again but i think it's going to play a different role. it's going to play a more honest role and a more authentic role where people can talk about race. >> stephanie young, it's a great initiative. still ahead, president trump marking veterans day in new york city, addressing the annual parade. but will he accept russia's invitation to attend their victory day festivities this spring? we'll talk about that right after this. for what you need. i love you!
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wednesday he has that visit by the president of turkey. wednesday is the same day that public hearings start in the impeachment inquiry. so we could have a remarkable split screen later in the week. just today briefly on the remarks largely stayed on script. he did mention baghdadi, something he's mentioned at almost every public event since he was killed. >> president trump said on friday that he is, in fact, considering this invitation from vladimir putin to attend the victory parade in russia next year. this would be the height of campaign season. what do we know about that? is he going? >> reporter: we don't know. the president has only said he's entertaining the invitation to go to russia in may for the 75th
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that's all. i'll see you tomorrow morning. andrea mitchell reports from new york city. >> great to be here with you. and it's veterans day. right now witness list. as public impeachment hearings are about to begin, the president's defenders fight back, trying to put joe biden's son on trial. >> what's going to happen is people are going to say they're impeaching president trump for exactly the same thing that joe biden did. >> i remain sympathetic with president trump's legitimate concerns about corruption. >> i consider any impeachment in the house that doesn't allow us to know who the whistleblower is to be invalid. >> acting chief of staff mick mulvaney asks to join a lawsuit against the president, an attempt to duck a house impeachment subpoena. >> i'd love to have mick go up, frankly. i think he'd