tv First Look MSNBC June 8, 2020 2:00am-3:00am PDT
in the wake of nationwide protests over the death of george floyd, nine members of the minneapolis city council have announced their intent to dismantle the city's police department. plus, former secretary of state colin powell endorses joe biden for president and calls donald trump a danger to this country. and fnl commissioner roger goodell says the league was wrong in listening to racism as donald trump tries to reignite controversy over the "national anthem." good monday morning, everybody. it is june 8th, and i'm yasmin
vossoughian. the racial injustice is set to continue for the third week. protesters hit the streets from coast to coast and abroad. new york city lifted its curfew early yesterday morning, a day earlier than planned after several days of peaceful protests there, and thousands gathered in washington, d.c., on saturday to protest the death of george floyd. and the president's threat to use the military to respond to the mostly peaceful protests, yesterday colin powell became the fourth former chairman to condemn the president's response. >> we have a constitution and we have to follow it and the president has drifted away from it. remember, i've been out of the military for 25 years, and so i'm watching them closely. they were all junior officers when i left. i'm proud of what they're doing.
i'm proud of their ability to speak honestly and speak truth to those not speaking truth. >> yesterday the president said he ordered the national guard to begin withdrawing from the capitol, warning, they can quickly return if needed. meanwhile in houston final funeral preparations are under way for george floyd. the church is prepared for thousands of people to pay their respects. organizers have laid out several guidelines for visitors to follow for safety during this pandemic. >> people will be properly distanced apart and allowed to enter with a six-foot distance. there will be no stopping in the sanctuary. >> tomorrow a private funeral will be held in this charge with livestreaming. he'd be laid next to his mother
at the houston cemetery. "the new york times" is reporting biden is not expected to attend the service due to concerns of creating a disruption, but wanted to offer his condolences in person. senator mitt romney took to the streets in washington, appearing to be the first republican to be among the thousands protesting george floyd's death. he walked with christians and shared this photo of himself on twitter. romney told the reporter he was participating in the protest to, quote, make sure people understand that black lives matter. >> we need a voice against racism. we need many voices against racism and brutality. we need to stand up and say that black lives matter. >> on saturday romney shared this photo of his father participating a civil rights protest half a century ago writing in part, this is my father george romney participating in a march in
detroit in the late 1960s. force alone will not eliminate riots. we must eliminate the problems from which they stem. and president trump is looking to reopen a controversy over the issue of nfl players protesting during the sounding of "the star-spangled banner." it followed roger goodell's response in a video calling for an end to racism. goodell admitted the league was wrong in not listening to players sooner and encouraged players to peacefully protest. trump sounded off saying. this could it be remotely possible that he was intimating it would not be okay for players to kneel or not to stand for the "national anthem," thereby disrespecting our country and our flag. the president also took issue with the statement of drew brees over the quarterback's apology
after drawing criticism last week for reiterating his 2017 stance that kneeling during the "national anthem" amounts to disrespect for america and its troops. trump wrote this, that despite being a big fan of brees, the quarterback should not have taken back his original stance on honoring the flag. that response prompted brees to definitively abandon his earlier viewpoint writing in an instagram post addressed to the president on friday, quote, this, i realize this is not an issue about the american flag. it never has been. we can no longer use the flag to turn people away or distract them from the real issues that face our black communities. let's get into this now. joining me a bit. political editor for the "washington examiner," david mark. good to see you. good to see you on this monday morning. appreciate it.
let's begin with mitt romney to join the protest. talk about that, his decision to do that. also, why do you think it is that senate republicans have been largely silent upon the president's rhetoric lately with regard to these protests? >> well, senator mitt romney from utah was by far the biggest surprise of these protests that have been going on for days now and really reached their peak on saturday and sunday. he had suggested, which is shown, on saturday maybe he was going to do something, but there was a lot of skepticism over that. he did show up on sunday. interestingly, it wasn't with a lot of fanfare. he didn't put out a press release. he just did so. he looked like another guy in the crowd. you don't become the center of
attention. you are there to promote the cause. >> what about the question, which i think is a big one. we have not heard much from the gop when it comes to some of his rhetoric here. >> that's an extension of what we've seen or heard -- i should say not heard for the last 3 1/2, four years since trump was elected and took office. republican lawmakers and congress don't want to get an angry tweet or be on the receiving end or face a republican primary challenge. they don't see it in their interest. not exact ly encouraged, but its more an act of political survival in their view at least. >> even though they see the president's popularity waning, especially in some of the polling we've been seeing across the board, joe biden getting
some double-digit gains over the weekend, a pullout in michigan as well. let's talk quickly about roger goodell and drew brees here. the president is making this about the flag as he did during the controversy as he did with taking a knee, making it about patriotism, as if fighting for black lives matter is not patriotic, which it certainly is and we all know that. whereas you see roger goodell now and drew brees now making it about-face, saying it's not about the flag. it's about something completely different and being at odds with all of this. david, talk us through this. >> the comment drew brees made stood out to me on the instagram poechlt he was definitive in his opposing views. he had kind of weblts back and forth but really took a stand. roger goodell, you could tell it
was more as business decision facing players. i believe with trump he went off the nfl players the last couple of years, but i wonder how long he can return to the well. >> the question is will roger goodell apologize to colin kaepernick. david mark, thank you. a major shakeup at "the new york times." the paper's opinion editor bennett saying he's resigning over republican senator tom cotton's op-ed calling for a protest against protesters. he said yesterday this. last week we saw a significant breakdown in our editing processes, not the first we've experienced in recent years. for his part, bennett had apologized to staff on friday saying cotton's op-ed was not
edited carefully enough and should not have been published. on wednesday the headline read "country braces for a ninth straight night of unrest," the title was "send in the troops." soon after that dozens of "times" staffer reese responded by tweeting this sentence, running this puts black new york times staff in danger. cotton responded to the resignation by tweeting in part this. i called for using military force for backup only the police are overwhelmed to stop riots, not to be used against protesters. if "the new york times" has any decency left, they should detract the spear. still to come, the supreme
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with the death of george floyd shining a light on police misconduct, the united states supreme court could announce as soon as today whether to take up a case that could successfully sue police. the court is looking at showing an officer violated, quote, clearly established laws or should have been aware of.
tweeting on saturday james amash looked at defending the constitution and ending qualified immunity. joining me now on this, danny cevallos. great to see you this morning. my understanding, danny, it requires specific evidence to hold police accountable in court. it is almost impossible to meet, as some were saying, that evidence requirements. talk about this clearly established test, danny. >> the supreme court announced a rule 50 years ago that actually is really markedly different from the original statute from many years before that. the original statute of 1983 does not talk about qualified
immunity. it provides for strict or automatic liability if a constitutional right is violated it. was the supreme court many years later that created this test almost out of whole cloth saying that a police officer must violate a clearly established right. in other words, it must be very obvious that under the existing case law or for some other reason, the officer essentially knows that he is violating this person's rights. and just to give you an idea, since the 1980s, the supreme court has decided some 30 qualified immunity cases, and only decided the officer didn't have qualified immunity in two of those cases. so that gives you an you how the supreme court has adhered to this rule, which doesn't exist in the original statute. >> so would this bill that is being proposed by amash and presley, would it totally eliminate this clearly established test? >> yes. amazingly enough, the language
of the proposed bill provides that section 1983 is amended to do away with qualified immunity, which is interesting because it never contained qualified immunity. it's really saying that section 1983 from this point forward no longer uses that supreme court test of qualified immunity and whether or not a clearly established right is violated. it's essentially reverting the statute back to what it always said, which is if an officer violate as right, a constitutional right, he or she is liable, and that's it. this supreme court law will cease to exist. >> danny cevallos, great to see you. thank you as always. still ahead, former president barack obama calls the recent unrest in the united states a, quote, wakeup call for graduates. we're going to show you part of his virtual call to graduates coming up next.
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welcome back. in a virtual address to 2020 graduates yesterday, former president barack obama telling students the pressures felt by their generation as a result of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and the racism and police brutality are, quote, a wakeup call. >> it's fair to say that your yen racing is graduating into a world that's facing more profound challenges than any generation in decades. the thing is, class 2020, what these past few weeks also shows us the it goes beyond the old vie rurs. it wasn't good enough, wasn't working that well. in a lot of ways the pandemic brought into focus problems that have been around for a long time. so as scary and as uncertain as these times may be, they're a wakeup call and an incredible opportunity for your generation because you don't have to accept
what was considered normal before. you don't have to accept the world as it is. you can make it into the world as it should be and could be. you can create a new normal, one that is fairer and gives everybody opportunity and treats everyone equally and building bridges between people instead of dividing them. >> as you saw at the end there, while incredibly moving for graduates, he did move his mouth the entire time. we were having technical difficulties, so thanks for sticking with us. with that let's switch gears and get a check on the weather with bill karins. watching cristobal which has been downgraded, which is good news, to a tropical depression. >> we just got that news in. good morning, yasmin. it was a weak tropical storm, but we've had some issues.
the flash flooding and storm flooding caused problems in louisiana, almost the gulf of mexico. shell island reported six feet of storm surge. they took people out of here. we also had some rainfall and flooding issues around jacksonville, florida. all along the gulf coast, water leveling did come up. we didn't see water in homes. this is from some of that heavy rainfall in jacksonville, florida. let me give you an update. it's now over land, weakened, but it's still going to be a big rainfall threat, maybe a few isolated tornados during the day. the rainband has moved northward to mississippi, one storm approaching montgomery, alabama.
look at this forecast path. it's not often we talk about remnantings of a system going up to milwaukee, chicago, and green bay. your areas are going to be windy as this strengthens into a typical storm, not a tropical entity we have 13 million people under flash flooding. we've had 5 1/2 inches of rain in mobile, alabama, in southern portions of alabama. jackson, mississippi, is under a flash flood warning achlt tnld heavy rain will move northward today. it could be a problem north of little rock, south of spring fooe field, and central missouri. and tomorrow it will pour in wisconsin. if you want another beautiful day today, you've got it. a gorgeous morn, low humidity, beautiful afternoon, sunshine. but look how hot it is. once you get outside of
cristobal, san antonio, 102, dallas, 97. minneapolis will be 95. but that will change on tuesday as that storm system moves up through chicago and into the plains. this is another lesson, yasmin. you don't necessarily need a powerful storm to create impact. i'll show you a toernl that moved three downtown orlando on saturday. >> it's impressive. it's tough enough dealing with tornados, hurricanes, flash floods normally in normal circumstances. we're still in the midst of a pandemic if we for gechlt that makes it extra difficult as folks have to evacuate and go to other places and we're still trying to bend this curve in so many places especially the southern part of the united states. a lot of complications. bill karins, thanks so much. still ahead, a growing number of prominent republicans are beginning to question whether to support president trump in november. once again, bill barr
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[ scoffs ] are ythe weirdest. you make everyone around you crazy. people are normal then they hang out with you and then they're jack nicholson in "the shining". i'm gonna tell my mom you tried to drown me. it's an above ground pool! you're like eight feet tall! welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour as former police officer derek chauvin is expected to make his first court appearance today after the murder of george floyd. the man recorded on memorial day, kneeling on the neck of a
46-year-old unarmed black man until he was non-responsive was first charged with first-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. chauvin also faces a charge of south dakota man sla second-degree murder. nine of the city's council members appeared at a rally yesterday in minneapolis to make this announcement. >> our plan is to end our relationship with the minnesota police department, to end policing as we know it, and to re-create systems of public safety that actually keep us safe. >> in an interview with nbc news, minneapolis council meb jeremiah ellison said this. the plan has to start somewhere. we're not going to hit the eject
button without a plan, but the mayor jacob frey said afterward while he supported deep struck annual reform he maintained this, i do not agree with abolishing the minneapolis police department. mayor frey reiterated his position after he was booed away from a protest near his house on saturday when he said he did not support dismantling the city's police force. according to "the new york times" t mayor can veto the anxiouses, but council members say they have the votes to overright a possible veto there. and attorney general bill barr is once again defending the removal of peaceful protesters outside the white house last monday before president trump walked over to a church for a photo op. appearing on "face the nation" yesterday, barr repeatedly asserted that the actions by police were appropriate. >> on monday you're saying --
>> on monday, yes, they were. >> as i'm saying three of my colleagues were there. they did not see projectiles being thrown. >> i was there. they were thrown. i saw them thrown. >> and you believe what our police did using tear gas and projectiles was appropriate. >> here's what the media's missing. this was not an operation to respond to that particular crowd. it was an operation to move the perimeter one block. >> and the methods they used you think were appropriate, is that what you're saying? >> when they met resistance, yes. they announced three times. they didn't move. by the way, there was no tear gas used. the tear gas was used sunday to clear eight street to allow the fire department to come in to save st. job's church. that was when they were used. >> there were chemical irritants. >> no, they were not chemical irritants. pepper spray is not a chemical. >> pepper spray is what you're saying was used. >> pepper balls. >> in that interview attorney
general barr argued pepper spray is not a chemical agent. but it is labeled as chemical agents and the advertisement says it's the most effective chemical irritant available. so a growing number of prominent republicans are questioning whether it's worth backing president trump's re-election bid. they're considering the nomination of joe biden. jeb bush is not sure how if he will vote for trump according to people familiar with his thinking. likewise senator mitt romney out of utah will not back president trump. meanwhile colin powell made this
announcement yesterday. >> we have a constitution and we have to follow that constitution, and the president trump's drifted away from it. i'm very close to joe bideen in a social manner and on a political manner, i've worked with him for 35, 40 years, and he is now the candidate, and i will be voting for him. >> trump raged on twitter, of course, in response to powell's about-face, causing him, quote, a real stiff responsible for getting us into the disastrous middle east war. joining us once again, "washington post" examiner editor david mark. you have prominent republicans say i they cannot cast a ballot, a vote in favor of donald trump for re-election come november. do you think this could hurt his chances? >> it doesn't help, but these figures are not exactly where the republican party is at this point in support of donald trump. jeb bush, the former florida governor, former rival of trump in the 2016 primaries, we've
known he's not a fan. it is interesting that former president trump george w. bush apparently is not going to support the party's nominee. colin powell, it's absolutely notable he's not supporting the republican nominee. but, remember, he voted for barack obama in 2008, 2012. he didn't support trump in 2016, so we've known where he was going for a while. i'm waiting to see if there are any sitting officerholders will be on the ballot who will turn against trump. to me that will be a real sign the president is in trouble for re-election. >> yes, that would be the real sign, but i'm doubtful if something like that will happen or if they'll be public enough to announce they have turned. >> agreed. let's talk about some of the demands from protesters we've heard in the streets. i was on the street reporting throughout the day yesterday. one of the demands from one of
these protesters is defunding the police. it's misleading saying defunding the police. not taking away all the money, but here in new york city, you have a $6 billion bunt funding the nypd. the idea is to take some of the money out of the pockets of nypd and put it toward more social programs, youth programs, inner city programs, so on and so forth. looking at it from a national level because you had mayor de blasio saying they're going to essentially do that in new york city, not saying how much or when. is this something you could see biden supporting, essentially defunding or reallocating money from the police force to other programs? >> the problem is all those important specifics and particulars that you mention do not fit in a tweet or a 30-second commercial, and we know the trump campaign is just going to seize on "defund the
police" however unfair that might be. >> he already has, yeah. he's already tweeted that out about joe biden. >> former vice president joe biden is going to have to come up with an answer. remember, a majority of the people in this country still like law enforcement. many people have family members who are police officers, other members of law enforcement. they don't see them as the enemy. so it's really easy to make that a fringe position, and i think the biden campaign needs to be awfully careful about not stepping into that trap. >> david mark, thank you. still ahead, after nearly three months of lock and 22,000 lives lost, new york city is set to begin phase 1 of reopening. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. from sweat-breaking dances...
u.s. public health officials have cautioned that a spike of new cases could follow from the nationwide mass protests. on friday, data compiled shows that 23 states as well as the district of columb district of columbia have seen an increase in cases. most have registered an increase of 10% or more. this is happens as the world reaches over 400,000 covid-19 deaths. globally more than 7 million people have been infected with this virus. the data is coming a day after the brazilian government stopped publishing a run of total coronavirus deaths. brazil's last courts number, over 400,000. according to the "associated press," the critics are calling it an extraordinary attempt to hide the true toll of the disease. back in the united states, over 111,000 covid-19 deaths have
been reported so far. and more than three months since coronavirus was first confirmed here in new york city, the epicenter of the outbreak, they're slating to begin phase 1 of reopening this morning today. as many as 400,000 workers could begin working to construction jobs, manufacturing sites, and retail stores, which will be open for curbside and in-store pickup. the city's mass transit system has prepped for update social distancing siing guidelines inc hand sanitizer, handing out masks as well. the subway is opening and testing nearly 3,000 a day. cases and deaths are also significantly down to almost half of the city's dire situation. the small steps back to normalcy are coming after nearly 22,000 new york city residents have lost their lives to this virus.
let's switch gears and bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins once again. good morning, bill. >> good morning. i'm going to give you an update on the covid numbers in a minute. first of all, some of the bands from cristobal came in over the weekend. this is over lake conway, in downtown orlando. thankfully no one was killed. there were just a few injuries. it did destroy a couple of roofs and carports and lifted off the grounl. we had numerous waterspouts as we went throughout the weekend. the different between a waterspout and a tornado, they're pretty much the same thing, just one's over water and one's over land. let's talk about the threats today. we could see more isolated tornadoes and heavy rain. we're going to be.
w watching bands near the mississippi/alabama border. later today, a severe weather threat unrelated to cristobal. your weekday forecast, rain, tuesday, remnants heading up to chicago. could see winds high up to 50 miles an hour. friday, pretty quiet around mum of the nation. we hit 2 million confirmed cases of covid as we went through the weekend. a low number on sunday, 18,000. what's interesting is the death total has really lowered. we only saw 373 new deaths reports. that was the lowest going back since march 26th. we're at 112 total. yasmin, here's the interesting thing. here's the average. you see the sunday number on the far right. we peaked at about 2,500 daily. now we're down to a little under
1,000 daily. if i had a question i could ask dr. birx and dr. fauci, why are we seeing the deaths go lower than the number of cases? maybe doctors are doing a better job or the cases are mutating with less over a vain. we're going to dig into a national conversation about the call to defund police departments. the story is coming up next on new day.
treatment for this, for people who have got it. is there outside the box thinking, for making us understand this and see this in a different way. welcome back. as the police brutality debate continues to confront the nation, we look at the movement. let's talk through this because as i mentioned earlier as i was speaking to david mark, i feel like the terminology, defunding the police, is kind of
misleading. it's more reallocating money away from the police departments to different social programs. >> absolutely. it's important to break down what this actually means. for activists, this conversation is long overdue, but for others, this kind of terminology is new, and sometimes it can be disorienting to hear about defunding the police or abolishing the police. let me break down what it means. it's using years of experience and common sense. it's to shrink the scope of police responsibilities and shift most of what the government does to keep us safe. for example, investing more in mental health care, expanding the use of mediation and violence interruption programs. it means reducing the reliance
on policing to security public safety and using the fund going into other programs. the advocates of this kind of policy do say we need to continue to work on police reform, but it's simply simply m the police system, we have to do more than that. shifting gears drastically away from what's going on in terms of civil unrest and calls to defund the police. i want to give an update on one sector due to coronavirus, that's the airline sector. there's a huge pressure on airlines, federal stimulus money is keeping them afloat for now but analysts are saying it's not enough to keep them in their size for the future. one calls for airlines to have to sit 25% of their planes. so it's going to be a long road to recovery for the u.s. airlines. >> let's talk oil. opec and its allies are continuing to make production
cuts on oil for at least another month or so, what is this meaning for the industry? >> that's right. it's a lot of will they won't they come to an agreement to extend the production cuts. they have come to an agreement to extend the cuts by a month. they're going to review the agreement on a monthly basis here on out. still a lot of questions on compliance, this is a long-standing issue with opec and the allies sticking to the agreements they made. still a lot of questions around compliance but they have tcome o an agreement. >> julianna live from london, thank you very much. coming up next, a look at axi axios, and in a show of support for protesters, washington d.c. mayor named a street in front of the white house, black lives matter plaza, and had the slogan painted in massive yellow
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welcome back, everybody. joining me now with a look at axios am, alexi mchammond. talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> happy monday. today's one big thing is about president trump's re-election efforts. just last week several of the top political allies and strategists held a private meeting to discuss a new message for his re-election campaign one they hope is more optimistic and hopeful to balance out the harsh rhetoric we've heard from the president in the last couple weeks alone. they're meeting in reaction to what they call brutal internal polling they're seeing for the president in light of his handling of the coronavirus and of george floyd's killing. they're testing this message around the great american come back using words like rebuilding, restoring. and tested an ad with that
language late last week. >> have they got the president on board with being hopeful and optimistic, especially when it comes to twitter? >> one of the people that talked to my colleague said they didn't believe they could changed the president's mind. >> let's talk about an interview you did sitting down with atlanta's mayor, keisha lance bottoms for axios on hbo. let's watch a little bit of it. >> our communities are sick and tired and we're dieing. we have -- at least with the obama, biden administration we had hope. with this president, we're -- so many of our communities are hopeless right now. and he does nothing but divide us and i think that that is a
frustration and the anger that we are seeing and that's what i felt in the streets when i went out. >> real honest conversation and talk from the atlanta mayor, keisha lance, bottoms. we know the president right now is at a low point. his re-election campaign not necessarily going well. a lot of polls that we are seeing throughout the country sees joe biden with a double digit lead in michigan over the weekend, i believe. what are you hearing about the internal polling for the president? >> sources who were briefed on internal polling for trump's re-election efforts described it as brutal to my colleague, jonathan swan, but they also pointed to something we've been reporting on and i think people have been following since after the 2016 election, which is that the president has, what one source described as a woman problem.
they see declining numbers among female numbers which is something we could see starting with the women's marches in 2017 after trump was elected. but that's also what we saw after exit polling for the 2018 midterms. the other things is they mentioned independents. they didn't say they were declining with independents but one source mentioned the source that works with trump's maga base isn't working with the independents. so they have to figure out how to keep independents and women on trump's side, not running away. how does joe biden capitalize on these moments because there are a lot of moments happening right now, especially when it comes to choosing his running mate? >> it's a great question. today joe biden is going to houston to meet privately with
george floyd's family. george floyd's family is having a funeral service for him but biden isn't attending that, we're told. that's one way he's showing a contrast in leadership and character to president trump. the other thing is he's considering only women for husband vice presidehis vice president and there's a large conversation whether he should pick a black woman, not just to meet the moment we're in but to give a nod to the voters who have stuck with him throughout the campaign. but that is a real difference trying to meet the moment. to break the glass ceiling after they saw was hillary clinton couldn't do in 2016. >> before i let you go, i want to say congratulations but i did hear that you got engaged overnight. so it looks like you can find love when there's a lot of turmoil in this country. we are so happy for you, alexi,
congratulations. can't wait to hear more about what is ahead for you. i'm sure a lot of good stuff. i will be reading axios in a little bit, you can sign up at axios.com. "morning joe" starts now. >> the one word i have to use with respect to what he's doing before is a word i never would have used with any of the four presidents i worked for. he lies. he lies about things and he gets away with it because people will not hold him accountable. >> general colin powell with those words of condemnation for president donald trump. becoming the fourth chairman of the joint chiefs of staff to criticize the president's response to the protests. powelling going so far as to announce he'll be voting for joe biden in