tv First Look MSNBC June 9, 2020 2:00am-3:00am PDT
on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. as george floyd is laid to rest today in houston, thousands began paying their respects at a memorial yesterday as protection against police brutality continues. >> also joe biden's presidential campaign says he does not support the move. and the u.s. economy is officially in a recession. the longest economic expansion on record has come to an end. good morning, everybody. it is tuesday, june 9th, and i'm
yasmin vossoughian. thanks for joining us. it's been just over two weeks since the death of george floyd. police violence shows no signs of slowing down. in yesterday there was a memorial service in los angeles with thousands of people gathered there. in portland, oregon, demonstrators shutting down an interstate as part of peaceful protests. portland's chief of police stepping down yesterday saying she had asked an african-american lieutenant to replace her. just outside of the white house, protesters have turned the massive fence around lafayette park into a living memorial with hundreds of signs and works of art. this is all coming as former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin who has been charged with the death of george floyd made his first court appearance yesterday.
the private funeral for george floyd will be held in his native houston today, but before he is laid to rest, thousands joined his family yesterday to pay their final respect with a public viewing in the city. floyd's casket arrived at fountain of praise church where mourners braved 90-degree heat to wait outside before going in to pay their personal tributes. well-wishers wore masks as we're still in a pandemic. they filed into two lines as ushers directed them to floyd's gold-colored casket while they said their good-byes. according to the church administrator, by 5:00 p.m., more than 6,000 people came to honor george floyd including governor abbott and former vice president joe biden who was pictured here with floyd's uncle, roger floyd, the family's attorney benjamin crump, cedric
richmond of louisiana. trump tweeted the meeting lasted for more than an hour during which biden said, listened, heard their pain, and shared in their woe. following the public viewing, floyd's high school held an event in his honor. >> i love you all. you could have been anywhere in the world, but you're all with us right now. this is a blessing. this is bigger than george right now. we're going to staop everybody from being afraid of the police. we have good police, but we have bad police. you can't sort them out, so we've got to figure it out right here. republican senator lisa murkowski of alaska brushing off a series of tweets from the
president yesterday including one where he promised to campaign against her when she's up for re-election. >> i made the comment that i made, i stand by them, and, again, i think it's important that we have a president who's working to bring people together and bring people together, and tone and words matter. i cannot live in fear of a tweet. that's where i'm at. >> all right. so let me remind you here. so trump's tweet and threat coming after last week, lisa murkowski endorsing a scathing criticism of his leadership from jim matusz in which he said, quote, trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people. murkowski said she was grappling
with whether to support the president in the next election. and to reportedly perk up congressional republicans and reach an audience of one, the president himself. he's running ads himself. that's according to "the daily beast" in which the trump campaign spent a little over $4 million to run ads mostly airing on fox news but also cnn and also this network, msnbc. the trump campaign's director said we want members to see the ads so they know the strong arguments for president trump and against joe biden. also it's to put the president at ease as he grows anxious about the election. he also said this. the campaign is hoping to
counter-birmingham recent ads by critics that have driven the president to public outbursts. yesterday the poll showdown president trump 14 points behind. let me say when i'm having a bad day, i would love to run an ad for myself and watch it on loop to make moours feel better. wouldn't that be great for all of us. talk us through this. this is astounding. i feel like this is a first. what do you think about hearing this report from the president's campaign that they're running ads not only for congressional republicans but also for the president himself to put him at ease? >> well, i mean i would say one
thing about anyone trying to run ads to target the president, which a number of groups have done this over the years. people close to the president tell me that's not very effective because the president doesn't normally watch commercials. he tivos everything or flips between networks during the commercials. but the one way to get him to watch a commercial is with live sports. somebody said if you want to get his attention, run a commercial during a golf event. there is that. i do know more broadly in general there's a lot of concern among the cam pape and the president's advisers about these poll numbers. now the campaign famously writes off polls. trump tweeted out yesterday that he had commissioned a conservative pollster to shoot down that cnn poll you mentioned a moment ago to sort of poke holes that show him down 14. maybe he's not down 14.
poll after poll after poll show him down seven points, eight points, well outside the margin of error. people close to the president say a lot of the polls show him neck and neck, in the margin of error. what you need to look for are these swing states, battleground states, michigan, pennsylvania, arizona, florida. but now he is below well outside the margin of error, and not only nationally, but in these swing states in arizona, in florida, in michigan where he's certainly if not below, he's neck and neck with biden. on top of that, they're seeing his poll numbers drop among his base along non-educated white males. so while he still holds a lead in those groups, it's not as strong as 2016. this was always going to be a tight race, but now there is certainly a lot of anxiety going
into these summer months where they've got to run hard for the next less than five months at this point. >> they've got to be rethinking their re-election at this point, considering their campaign was going to run on a strong economy and now we're officially in a recession that doesn't seem to be going away any time soon. while i have you, shannon, i quickly want to talk about this feud between the president and alaskan senator lisa murkowski. this is why so many republican senators don't necessarily speak out, right, because they don't want to be seen as an enemy of the president or being attacked on twitter by the president, which it seems the president is doing just that to senator murkowski, but you have a lot of top lawmakers now, republican lawmakers, urging the president to back off murkowski. >> well, yeah. i mean if you campaign against lisa murkowski, then you help her democratic rival
theoretically. and to go back to a moment ago, the numbers were so strong with republicans. if he's slipping along white noneducated college men, that's part of the calculus you may start to see come in here. of course, lisa murkowski has always been a bit of a critic of the president. she's always been on a separate path from a lot of the senators. i'm not sure if it's just her or the beginning of a trend. >> all right. shannon pettypiece, great to see you. stay close. i'll talk with you again. democrats with sweeping legislation on police reform. also later, despite coronavirus concerns, the president is heading back on the campaign trail. we'll have a check on those stories and the weather when we come back.
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true justice can only be achieved with full comprehensive action. that's what we're doing today. this is a first step. there is more to come. in the coming weeks, the house will hold hearings, mark up the bill. once the house passes the bill, leader mitch mcconnell must swiftly take it up. leader in the congress, the president, must not stand in the way of justice. the congress and the country will not relent until this legislation is made into law. >> welcome back, everybody. that was house speaker nancy pelosi yesterday introducing the justice in policinging at of 2020 at a joint news conference of house and senate democrats. the unveiling took place after members took a knee in 8 minutes
46 seconds for george floyd outside the capitol, 8 minute, 46 seconds in which derek chauvin kept his knee on george floyd's neck. there's a limit to the transfer of military-grade equipment to local law enforcement and required training on racial bias and a duty to intervene. so republican senator mitt romney also announced plans to introduce bipartisan police reform legislation while criticizing the democrats for a bill that has yet to attract gop support. joining us now, legal analyst dan danny cevallos. you've got the white house already saying making it easier to sue police, which we were actually discussing yesterday between us, that is a
non-starter for them. but that is part of this bill, and it changes the standard of conduct from willingness ---lefulness, excuse me, to recklessness. talk about how that might change holding the police accountable. >> the bill addresses separately civil liability and criminal liability. civil light reduces the standard of proof fromlefulness, which is a higher mental state. it's one of the lower standards in criminal law for holding someone liable, criminally responsible. on the other hand civilly the bill seems to get rid of qualified immunity, which is very interesting because the original statute never created qualified immunity. it's really a return to what the original statute provided, section 1983, which is essentially strict or automatic
liability for any deprivation of a constitutional right. it brings us back to the status quo when the law was enacted. >> so it's interesting because some of the things included in this are already satisfying the demands of some of these protesters, limiting use of military-grade equipment, to law enforcement required training on racial bias. i heard this amidst the protesters on sunday when i was reporting on this, but you already have the aclu coming out in opposition to this proposal and here's why. here's what they're saying. the bill introduced today is taking significant steps to ensure accountability against police force, but, they say, legislation also provides hundreds of millions of more money to law enforcement and for the aclu that is a non-starter. the role of police has to be smaller, more circumscribed, and less funded with taxpayer dollars. and so herein lies the major issue because you have
protesters asking for defund the police, which we talked about yesterday, which is a bit misleading, allocating money to other programs throughout the city. but talk to us, danny, about some of the provisions that rely on funding or the lack thereof. >> respectfully i have to disagree with the aclu's position because there is money allocated but it's mostly to federal agencies and for data collection and pattern and practice investigations. if anything, the proposed bill recognizes and wants to do away with providing police with military-grade weapons. so this money isn't going toward batons and pepper spray. it's going toward investigation and reducing that funding would reduce the oversight of local police. >> all right. danny cevallos, great to see you. thank you. still ahead this morning, u.s. prosecutors are formally requesting to talk to britain's
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downy unstopables welcome back, everybody. u.s. federal prosecutors have asked to speak with prince andr andrew. the request was made through the british government under a mutual legal assistance treaty, which is similar to a subpoena. prince andrew was a long-time friend of epstein. a woman says she was directed by epstein to have sex with the prince when she was 17 years old. prince andrew says that he has, quote, no recollection of the woman and denies having any form of sexual contact with her. the prince's legal team responded to the rare move by federal prosecutors saying they offered his help as a witness on at least three occasions this year, adding that the doj reacted to the first two offers by breaching its confidentiality
rules and claims that prince andrew has offered zero cooperation. his attorneys also said that the justice department has advised them that the prince is, quote, not and has never been a target of their criminal investigation into epstein. a spokesperson for the u.s. attorney's office for the southern district of new york telling msnbc yesterday the office would decline to comment. buckingham palace has also declined to comment on a request by prosecutors, and a spokesperson for the uk's home office said it could not comment on the legal assistance request. let's switch gears and get a first look at your forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning to you. >> good morning, yasmin. still tracking cristobal, no longer a tropical depression. kind of rare for june where this storm is heading. we're looking at it here. right now we're in the center of
missouri. it's going to drop rainfall and head north. it's going to be like a regular storm you'd see in the springtime, but we're going to have a lot of impacts from it. already 10 million people are under a flash flood including missouri, rochester, denver, nebraska, and mississippi. here's the rainfall forecast. good soaking rain from our friends in minneapolis through wisconsin. chicago could get 1 to 2 inches of rain out of this. it's also going to be a windy storm, which is usual to see winds like in in the middle of the country. high wind warnings are spread from denver all the way into nebraska and kansas. snowing in some areas of wyoming. so the wind forecast looks like this. we may have strong enough winds to get damage out of this. omaha could have winds of almost 60 miles an hour. omaha to wichita, 50 miles an hour.
areas of the great lakes could gust to 50 miles an hour. the weather continues in the northeast. a beautiful low-humidity morning. a gorgeous sunrise in new york. it will be hot. wednesday, we'll have the windy conditions still in the middle of the country and still pretty nice summer-like conditions along the east coast. not too many conditions for severe weather, but unusual to have 60-mile-an-hour winds from a tropical system in the middle of the country yet. >> i'm going to bet folks waking up in wyoming are also not necessarily happy to see snow outside their windows. yeah. in the middle of june. thank you, bill. still ahead, e about, the president said he visited a white house bunker during a protest last month for an inspection, but now attorney general bill barr is telling a different story. also the world health
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[ scoffs ] are ythe weirdest. you make everyone around you crazy. people are normal then they hang out with you and then they're jack nicholson in "the shining". i'm gonna tell my mom you tried to drown me. it's an above ground pool! you're like eight feet tall! welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this hour with the talk of defunding the police. the president and his allies are using the movement to paint the democrats as soft on crime, but here's the presumptive nominee again explaining his opposition.
>> you do support defunding the police? >> no, i don't support defunding the police. i support conditioning federal aid to police based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency and honorableness and are able to demonstrate they can protect the community and everythibody in t community. >> sources are telling democrats on a private call with the democratic caucus to avoid being drawn into the debate over defunding the police. and as a law enforcement roundtable yesterday the president pledged to maintain funding for police amid growing calls for sweeping cutting for budgets and flatly denied that systemic problems exist in some departments. there's not going be any disbanding of police. the police have been letting us
live in peace. we want to make sure we don't have any bad actors in there. sometimes you see horrible things like we witnessed recently. 99 -- i say 99.9%, but let's say 99% of them are great, great people. you see in some of the papers they want to end the police department. quote, end the police department, in minneapolis. end it. what does that mean, "end it?" it's going to be a very sad situation if they did because people aren't going to be protected. >> so "the new york times" is pointing out that while aids said that trump was studying possible proposals for changes to law enforcement, he made little effort to suggest as much, so new york state prosecutors allowed a bill charging police officers who injure or kill someone by placing them in the choke hold,
the eric garner anti-choke hold act was passed as part of a slate of bills named for garner who died back in 2014 as an nypd cop held him in that department. choke holds are barred by that hold, but the law goes further by establishing the crime of strangulation as a felony and as punishable by up to 15 years in prison. according to the new york state assembly, 996 people have reported being put in choke holds by nypd officers since garner's death. and attorney general bill barr contradicted the president and confirmed the president was taken to an underground bunker during protests late last month. barr said trump was taken to the bunker for not, quote, an inspection but security concerns for demonstrations outside the white house.
watch this. >> on monday we were reacting to three days of extremely violent demonstrations right across from the white house. a lot of injuries to police officers, arson. things were so bad that the secret service recommend the president go down to the bunker. >> so last week trump denied a "new york times" report that the secret service had taken him to a bunker for his security during the may 29th event and claims he was doing an inspection that's a false report. i was down there for a period of time much more for an inspection. there was never a problem. we never had a problem. no one ever came close to giving us a problem. they said it would be a good time to go down, take a look, because maybe sometime you're going to need it. >> perfectly appropriate for a president to go underground if
his security is at threat, fyi. he doesn't need to mislead the public that he went down for an inspection or outright lie about it. the president is planning his campaign in the next few weeks. according to politico, they're looking at what safety measures will be implemented. brad paschall is expected to present trump possibly this week. the move comes as trump has been trailing behind bideen in recent polls and the team is heavily relying on the in-person rallies and trying to create a difference between him and biden. trump is likely to face pushback for the in-person events amidst the pandemic. however, the nationwide protests are seen as a cover for him getting criticism for holding
large in-person events. joining us once again shannon pettypiece. shannon, good to see you again. let's talk about the president's law and order rhetoric here. 80% of the americans are saying the country is out of control, and the poll, of course, was conducted amidst the aftermath of george floyd's death and the coronavirus pandemic when you saw thousands of people in the streets protesting george floyd's death. do you think this is going to have any impact on the president's approach here? >> well, this law and order rhetoric is something the republican candidates have used for decades now. it is really one of the tried and true messaging tactics of republican candidates. so, you know, this is a message that plays well with the president's base. he was getting some criticism a
couple of weeks ago for not being strong enough from his base frrks h base, from his allies. that led to his monday pronouncement about sending in the military and telling the government they had to be strong on the streets. it's all an effort to target this key group of base supporters that we were talking about a minute ago has been softening and rallying up and getting them behind the president. his solution to these demonstrations has not been to talk about the underlying issues of race or police brutality or any sort of systematic social injustice issue that the protesters are bringing up. it has been -- the solution has been law enforcement and cracking down on these protests with force, and that's the message we have seen, and that is the message that the president's supporters and allies have wanted to hear. >> can we quickly talk about this police reform legislation
being proposed by the democrats, shannon? it seems as if this literally has no support with them coming up and basically saying as well as the president or i would assume the president, especially if the republicans aren't necessarily supporting it, is there any chance at all there can be any bipartisan support for this legislation. how far away are we from real police reform legislation in washington? >> well, white house officials are telling us that this is unlikely to get the support of the president to put it mildly. they basically ruled out the support from the president. the president has not really ever supported anything that house democrats have put forward. that's a surprise. to your broader point, are we going to get anything, there's no counter-proposal coming from the white house. we're two weeks into this. the president still has not made any suggestions about ways to
reform policing, any ideas or thoughts about addressing this underlying issue of systematic racism. the white house press secretary basically said yesterday that the president does not believe there is systematic racism in policing. so there's no counterproposal coming from the white house. there's no real strong counter proposal coming from the white house either. that's where it's going to statement something may pass the house, but not likely to pass the president's desk. >> it seems unlikely that changes will come at the federal level, but we're seeing pockets of changes at the local levels. it seems like for the time being, there could be changes made to police departments on the local level but much further away from that level. shannon pettypiece, thank you so much. still ahead, everybody, new
"one day i'm gonna be like you, i'm gonna help people." you're good to go, ma'am. i hope so. this is my passion. if i can take of everyone who is sick out there, i would do it in a heartbeat. . welcome back, everyone. the world health organization is casting doubt. yesterday a top official called the asymptomatic condition, quote, very rare, adding it's not driving the spread of the virus. it was from data from contact tracing in several countries. outbreaks indicated the virus could spread from person-to-person contact even if the carrier did not have symptoms. now the world health organization says while the
asymptomatic spread can occur, it's not at the leading way. the director of the harvard global health institute has blamed the world health organization for creating confusion, tweeting out that communication by the world health organization is, quote, not stellar and such a statement should be accompanied by data. he's called asymptomatic spread, quote t achilles' heel of this outbreak. and questions are rising why the agency changed its feelings on the mask. orangely they said only health care workers, people with covid-19 and people caring for those sick with coronavirus wear the mask. now they're saying healthy people should wear fabric masks when unable to socially distance. with that, let's bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins who's tracking the weather along with
tracking covid numbers and has been for the last couple of month ts. take us through those numbers this morning, bill. >> i will. the asymptomatic thing was a shock. i saw the headline and had to read it twice. totally different than what we had heard before that. now they're saying it's not the main way that people are getting it. so, yeah, we're going to learn a lot obviously in the months to come. let's get into the numbers yes. it was a pretty quiet monday, quote/unquote. 588 deaths. 16 states reported no deaths yesterday. so that was good. there were no states that reported over 100 deaths. new york was the most at 96. as far as total cases, we had about 19,000. averaging somewhere close to 20,000 for the last two to three weeks, but it was the lowest monday total going back to march 23rd. as far as states go, we're seeing states go up after the phase 2 reopenings. other states are going down. california led the way with the
most new cases. texas was number two. if there's one area we need to watch in texas. it's the houston area. texas medical center said they're in warning territory right now. they're in phase 2 of reopenings. they say the average daily caseload is up. it's causing concerns for bed capacity. we'll have to watch the houston area to see what's happening there and hopefully they'll see a downward trend after recently an upward tick. let's check on your forecast. we're seeing the storm system, the remnants of cristobal heading up to the midwest. thunderstorms, gusty winds, heavy rains. we could see isolated thunderstorms. 20 million people are at riff frk chicago down through western portions of tennessee and even kentucky. then tomorrow, it will move from columbus to cleveland, buffalo, syracuse, and areas of central pennsylvania. it's amazing, yasmin, when you
look back even three months ago what we thought we knew to what we know now. i imagine six months from now, it will be the same thing. >> yeah. things are always changing with the coronavirus. we're learning more and more each and every day. sometimes you feel it's bad news because you feel you've made an assessment and you change your behavior every day to accommodate that assessment. the good news is they're learning more about this virus and this fweesd news. thank you, bill. still ahead, we're going to go live to cnbc on what's driving wall street. that story's coming up next. around here, nobody ever does it. i didn't do it. so when i heard they added ultra oxi to the cleaning power of tide, it was just what we needed. dad? i didn't do it. #1 stain and odor fighter, #1 trusted. it's got to be tide. miles to the job site. the campsite.
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is there an outside the box-plan for seeing this, understanding this and seeing it in a different way? welcome back, everybody. the united states officially entered a recession in february, marking the end of a 128-month expansion that began in june of 2009. the classification came yesterday in an announcement from the national economic
bureau of research cycle data committee which recognized the downturn resulted from different dynamics from prior recessions but warranted the designation, even if it turns out to be briefer than earlier reactions. good morning, julianna, great to see you this morning. talk us through this huge announcement, essentially saying we are officially in a recession. >> that's right. the r word has now officially entered the conversation. this was a very closely watched report from the national bureau of economic research. the recent contraction that they've called attention to marks the end to the longest expansion in the united states economy since world war ii, when they made this declaration yesterday they cited a variety of reasons, they cited the, quote, unprecedented magnitude in the decline of employment and production and its broad reach across the entire economy. the downturn they said started
back in february and has accelerated with the pandemic lockdown. from a market perspective, on the same day, yesterday, when this data came out of the national bureau of economic research, the nasdaq, the tech heavy index in the u.s., hit an all-time high and the s&p 500 erased all of its losses for 2020. in other words investors and traders continue to buy into equities despite the dire picture of the real economy. the big reason there is we are seeing a lot of support come into the economy from the federal reserve, as well as congress and investors are taking the view that yes, it has been a very dire situation economically, but looking ahead, the economy is expected to recover and it's expected to recover relatively swiftly, which has supported a continued buying of the stock market. interesting dynamic and a lot of questions around whether the disconnect between the real economy and the financial markets is actually justified.
>> let's talk oil here for a moment. bp has announced it's going to be making some company cuts as oil prices are remaining low. what can you tell us about this? >> that's right. bp has announced plans to cut its workforce by 10%. this comes as the pandemic has weighed not only on the company but, of course, the broader energy sector. lower demand for oil puts pressure on bp. the majority will be office-based jobs and the ceo warned they're spending much, much more than they make. >> thank you, so much julianna, good to see you this morning. up next a look at axios' one big thing. coming up on "morning joe," we're going to weigh the risks of the large gatherings during a pandemic. "morning joe" is moments away.
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am, deon bowen. good morning, talk to us about axios's one big thing today. >> it's why you can't trust the jobs numbers you got on friday. jobs number coming out 2.5 jobs million added which is a miss from the expectation of 7.5 million jobs lost. and there were a number of issues in the report that pointed to some questionable numbers and data from one of the most important reports in the world. >> talk us through this prediction here that six million jobs could be at risk of being lost in the coming weeks. especially as more and more states are reopening, getting into phase two and phase three of reopening. what more can you tell us about this? >> well, it goes to the expectation for losses of white
collar jobs. we've seen mostly blue collar jobs, younger workers, frontline workers, folks like that lose their jobs so far. what the expectation is in the coming months you'll see the second wave, the supervisors lose their jobs, you'll see corporations starting to cut back. i think you mentioned earlier in the program the loss of the jobs at bp, a lot of those will be white collar, high paying kind of salary jobs that's the next wave expected to be lost in terms of jobs. one of the interesting things in the jobs report, taking it back to that last story, is that a lot of jobs that -- or people that were categorized as employed last month were just people who didn't answer or who were noted as temporarily unavailable because of either, you know, they didn't answer the phone, they didn't come to the office and there was no real explanation for why they weren't there. they were noted as employed even though it's likely a lot of them
have been laid off, temporarily or permanently, and a lot of companies have closed. these things are correlating closely making sure the data isn't stuff you can put your hands around and understand why we're losing jobs or understanding how we're losing and really make accurate predictions. >> and the question is how many jobs will be lost considering the -- how long the recession lasts now that we're in a recession. i know that axios has been digging into the world of online sports betting and things have changed since the pandemic. what can you tell us about this? >> as there are very few live sports, you have table tennis and a couple other things, but as the live sports have really shrunk in terms of the atmosphere or the total number, sports betters are moving into the stock market and they're actually kind of driving the
economy. there was a note from -- not the economy, driving the stock market. let me clarify. there was a note from deutsch bank out from just yesterday saying that investors, the institutional asset managers, the big-time professional fund managers, they're starting to follow what we saw from the retail investors, these mom and pops, and a lot of them right now are turning out to be sports betters. people that don't have sports, a basketball, football, or baseball game to bet on, they're turning to the stock market and making wagers a lot the way they would in the sports betting markets. a lot of the apps are set up similarly. robinhood, one of the most popular, has a similar interface and a lot of these sports betting interfaces are designed to look a lot like stock markets it's making an easy transition for some of the sports betters into the stock market and seeing behavior reminiscent of what we
saw in the sports betting market in the stock markets and those investors are driving what's happening because of the stock -- because the professional investors have stayed away, you're seeing a lot of that play out in the stock market, which is very interesting. >> dion bowen thanks so much. i'll be reading axios a.m. in just a little while. you can sign up at axios.com. that does it for me on this tuesday. i'm going to be joining "morning joe" in just a bit and "morning joe" starts now. >> good morning, yazmin, it's tuesday june 9th, with us professor at prinston university eddie gloud jr. and yasmin is here as well. it's bee