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we're getting to the point it's going to be full. we have gridlock and we won't be able to take patients. they will be stacking in the er. >> it doesn't stop. we don't know when it will stop at this point. admitting multiple patients a day. they go into kidney failure.
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they have strokes. they have blood clots. they have spontaneous muscle breakdowns. >> the patients are very sick and they turn quickly. that's always a challenge. >> we don't have the capacity of staff to care for so many patients. >> it is a very unnerving, scary thought to know the path we're going on now, we can tip the entire health care system in all of texas and all of the nation. >> once again we begin the show with sound from medical workers on the front line offense this pandemic. welcome to friday. it's "meet the press daily." the deaths are rising and the worst is yet to come. the united states set a record for nearly 73,000 confirmed cases in day. cases are rising in 41 states right now. the u.s. confirmed more than 1,000 deaths yesterday alone. what was going down is also going up on the death toll. this is shaping up to be another
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national nightmare and to down play the surge as a result of testing is to ignore reality. look at states across the country. texas, cases are soaring. hospitalizations are rising and now, the deaths are rapidly climbing. let's go to arizona. confirmed cases spiked. testing basically maxed out. the number of actual cases is likely higher. hospitalizations soared and now the deaths are rising there too. there's an unsettling trend here. look at florida. cases and hospitalizations went up. icu beds in miami-dade are at 120% capacity. now the deaths are rising too. sadly, the same story in california. you can see the deaths beginning to climb sharply over the last few days in that state as well. let's look at these curves in south carolina, alabama, tennessee, nevada. the cases and hospitalization curves in places like oklahoma,
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mississippi, arkansas and georgia. we're now at 140,000 americans who have died from this virus and that number will be climbing for a long time. 18 states are seeing dangerous levels of new cases right at this moment. that's according to warnings from the white house own coronavirus task force. the warnings, you haven't seen them because they've not been published. they are still unpublished. this document from the task force is hundreds of pages of data and warnings for states to do more and apparently, it had to be leaked to the media for the public to see it. the warnings are all there in plain sight in the public data and in those private documents. the president and the white house seem focused on two things now. reopening the country and finding some message that will help them win the election. here now my nbc news colleague kelly o'donnell at the white
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house and medical contributor dr. gupta. i want to start with you. earlier today we were getting started on this conversation. it looks like we're headed for a really grim week of deaths next week. is there anything in the data that says that won't be the case? >> no, chuck. what we're going to see is the many states across the west coast and the south, they are suffering from increased cases, the likes of which we have never seen but concerningly hospitalization rates are going up. icu staffing is bottleneck. not just the beds but the staffing, chuck. one of the big issues i'm hearing from colleagues in arizona and texas is, they don't have the dialysis machine. they don't have the nurses that they need. you need an additional dialysis in addition to an icu nurse to save a patient's life with
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covid-19 who is on a ventilatov. they don't have the capability. we'll see deaths continue to rise and hospitalizations continue to parallel that death increase. >> i also want to play something for you from the person in charge of the testing czar. his assistant secretary for health. he was talking about the issue of what he called unnecessary testing. take a listen to what he said. >> when i talk about unnecessary testing, we know there's a lot of people who are being asked to retest themselves at the end of their illness. some people are getting tested four or five, six times and that's really unnecessary. we need to decrease those tests but we also need to allow asymptommatic people to be tested. >> now, let's unpack that statement there. number one, that implies we have a test -- if we have all the tests we need in the world,
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should this matter? i'm guessing we have a testing -- this is an issue of we have to start rationing tests? >> this notion that the individuals that get repeat tests, they are somehow the reason why we don't have enough tests is ridiculous. he's distracting from the main point is we don't have enough of the right tests. the people that get four or five tests are the rare icu patient who we get a positive and then a negative. then we need know. can we take them off precaution so they can get procedures. those are the individuals that may get multiple tests. he's not being specific enough. that's not the reason we don't have enough tests to restart schools. we don't have the right tests. the point of care tests. if the government was thinking far enough into the future would invest in heavily. these are the types of tests within 30 minutes you get a
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result. we know there's a lot of kpae companies thinking along the lines. they need scaled resources. >> one of the reasons there was a bit of over confidence, perhaps, on this idea we would have some form of reopening in mid to late summer. sports leagues had this idea they could start playing. i think that everything was built on this assumption that rapid testing and the ability to get a result within half hour, maybe an hour, was going to allow a whole bunch of businesses to come back. that technology never happened. i went through this testing lag with him last week. he was just saying half of our tests, we get quick turn arounds. i'm like but what about the other half. what happened here? >> let me be specific, brett is not -- what he's saying is the quick right now is 72 hours, chuck. that's quick.
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maybe 24 hours if you're a symptommatic health care worker or in a hospital setting then you'll get a turn around in a few hours. for the 99% of the country, quick is 72 hours. median time for result for the bulk of the country is five to seven days. that's just not true. for flu, for years, we have have the rapid test. you might have gotten this flu test in the past. it's rapid flu test. it's not a good test. it misses three out of ten pos -- positive cases. we don't have good rapid tests. there was a failure to meet expectations because we didn't have that technology in place. >> let me move to the policy and political side of things there. don't leave me. kelly o'donnell, how did the president spend his day today?
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>> reporter: no public venevent. he did conduct a lengthy interview with fox news channel that's expected to air this weekend. we don't have the president coming forward and it's one of the things that one of his top advisers says he should do in light of coronavirus and it would help, she argues, his approval ratings which have taken a real hit. that's kellyanne conway who said when he was front and center briefing the country on coronavirus, taking a more visible coronavirus focused approach to certain events that would be better for the president politically, better for the country to hear. when the president did that earlier this spring there were times he said things that drew a lot of controversy, inaccurate and so forth. her argument is for him to be more visible. at the same time, the president does take questions about it and so forth but he has tried to be more focused on things like the economy, on battling joe biden and the democrats over things
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like the cultural wars, the urban versus rule america. those kinds of things. when you talk about the information flow from the white house in your opening segment talki ining about the 18 hot zo states in our country, that report from the task force, we're told, has been released to all 50 states to the health officials in those states. as you pointed out, not released publicly. that information that might affect how people conduct themselves whether they wear masks or distance themselves, those personal decisions could arguably be affected by that information flow. that report has not opinion released publicly. we know that next week with more they, there's supposed to be information from the cdc about school reopening. when you talk with the doctor about the potential for greater deaths next week, the white house plan, at least on friday afternoon, is to have events around school reopening next week. imagine some of the political
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dissonance of that if the plan holds next week. >> i want to get at what pyres to be, you're surfacing some internal messaging divide. kellyanne conway going public with her belief the president should be back more front and center. we know others have argued the other end. this dispute between the cdc and hhs and who controls the data and looks like cdc took their ball and went home the other day. shut things down. turned it back on. to me that was more proof that there is a lot of infighting under water that we're not seeing, it appears. what are you hearing? >> reporter: there's also an element of if you look at government writ large, there are usually i.t. lags, problems on information sharing. the government typically does not have the most state of the art information sharing. that's something we have been hearing about through this pandemic. hospitals are not reporting all of their information in the same way. that has given the government,
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the federal government a chance to say we needed to change that system. others are arguing that by changing the system, having hops report directly to an hhs database, not the cdc, there are questions about how transparent will that be. will we know numbers of cases and the severity of those cases, how many icu patients and so forth. will we have the same access to ta information where as the cdc has in its history, its whole purpose is to be the front line of public health information. >> ashley parker, i started by asked what did the president do today. i know what the vice president did today. he was on a campaign trip and making what his campaign hopes to be a signature, to begin what is a signature talking point of this campaign that joe biden might be the nominee but it's bernie sanders that runs his agenda. i get where they are trying to
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go here. it just seems as if where's this going in the middle of day like today. what is the thinking inside the trump campaign about sort of plowing forward on a campaign message in the midst of another record breaking day of coronavirus cases? >> there's long been a frustration within the trump campaign and the president's general orbit about how behind they feel on campaign messaging and especially defining negatively joe biden. part of that is what you said. it's the coronavirus. that's where the nation's attention was. another significant part of that is the fact that the president has been able to exhibit very little self-discipline and has not been a i believe to stay on message. they are work at a point of trying to catch up and yes, i think you are going to see a lot of dissonance. that's not what the public is most interested in. it seems like bernie sanders on a day when deaths in the country
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are skyrocketing. from the campaign's perspective and the president's perspective, this was long over due. they have failed doe fine joe biden and one of the things with this campaign shake up is to hit him with a hard feared message. they think one of the things that may be most effective is this idea he's to far left. that's not always the easiest case to pin on joe biden. it's unclear how effective it will be. there are people in president's orbit who are happy to see what they feels like a semblance of message on the discipline front. >> it feels like a bank shot. i think we're finding out, they really did want to run against bernie sanders. it feels as if this entire thing was how would they run against bernie sanders and they're trying to turn joe biden into something that 40 years of his record doesn't really show.
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>> yeah. it's not an easy natural fit when the president himself is calling joe biden sleepy joe, the idea that he is a member of the antifa and a leftist protesting mob is just inherently in congruous. when you talk to voters, they sort of say, he's kind of a moderate guy, generally. it's a tricky hit. at least, again, some people in his orbit are so grateful that they are have some sort of message to deliver that they see a sliver of optimism there. >> i sense the same thing. i sense a people of people saying we're talking about something that isn't the virus. please pay attention. it's like okay, the virus is a
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pretty big story. i want to clowe with you dr. gupta and circle this back to the virus. is there any -- what's the best piece of good news you could give us about our fight against this virus right now? >> we're seeing governor newsom say if you're in read alert county, where things aren't looking good, schools will not reopen. we need that sense of clarity. that clarity in messaging. i love what i'm seeing out of new jersey, shutting down indoor dining. same thing in new york. there's a strong stance that's consistent with evidence. those are the good pieces of news that we won't have this rush to opening schools that the fool hearty and will not protect teachers or students. you'll see some of these large school districts peel back. i think you'll see chicago pull
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back, new york city pull back. i love to see that which is proper and evidence based. >> your good news means we're living a pandemic life now until a vaccine, unless somehow the federal government changes course in some dramatic fashion that they haven't. is that the bottom line? >> that's the bottom line. we need a therapeutic. we need a vaccine or we just need testing. the right type of testing. you and i had this conversation since march. it's point of care testing. >> so long. >> not a 7-day turn around test. we need the right type of test and maybe we can do strategic reopenings but not with the current testing we have. >> kelly o'donnell, ashley parker and dr. gupta, i appreciate all three of you getting us started with what is a mix of a virus and political lead this late afternoon. thank you all. up next, we'll check in with the hardest hit areas of this country. we have new information about
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welcome back. while coronavirus cases continue to spike across the country, situation is dire in hot spots like arizona. california is reporting a record number of hospitalizations for a third straight day and a record number of icu patients for a fourth consecutive day. in georgia which has faced ard
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record number of hospitalizations for three straight week, the governor is suing the mayor for continuing to enforce a mask order that bans cities and other municipalities for mandating masks. let's start down south in atlanta. here's the question i've been trying to get an answer to. why did the governor believe he had to file suit? have we gotten an explanation of why they had to file a lawsuit? >> reporter: that was one of the questions we asked him during that news conference today. he is saying he believes this mandate put into place is confusing. believes it's so confusing it would hurt small businesses. he says that's the reason he's filing lawsuit. he said he's doing it on behalf of what he calls the small business owners who are struggling to survive. for context, a bit of context.
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this is the latest in this escalating battle that we have seen between mayor and atlanta and the governor of georgia and talking about the fact that the governor has said that local municipalities can't do anything more or less restrictive than what he's put into place. what he's trying to do is trying to block not only the mask man date but trying to stop the city of atlanta from rolling back the reopening measures that have been put in place. here is a bit of what he had to say during his news conference. take a look. >> men and women have seen their paychecks disappear. father, mothers, sisters and brothers are barely hanging on. mayor bottoms mask mandate cannot be enforced. her decision to shut her businesses and undermine economic growth is devastating. >> reporter: that's what the governor had to say. the mayor, all of the city council members named in the lawsuit, i spoke with one
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earlier today say asking people to wear a mask isn't good enough. chuck, if you look around atlanta, just traveling around through different part, it really is patch work. there's some people who wear masks but there are many who choose not to do so. i pressed the governor and asked at what point would he switch from encouragement to enforcement if he looks around and after a month or so or a week or two, he sees people aren't wearing masks, would he change his mind. he said no. he believes there are some mandates that are not being enforced. he says it sends the message that man dates are not that important. you have this legal stand off between the two parties here. essentially they are making it clear they both believe they could win if it goes to court. chuck. >> i think it's interesting that home depot that has people like arthur blank and others announced they are going to mandate all their customers wear
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masks. just sort of an interesting development on the private sector front. thank you. let's move to arizona. vaughn, what we're seeing in arizona is that this issue with their testing, they've plateaued on the number of tests that they are able to administer. what is behind that? have they maxed out on their ability to test based on their resources right now? what is going on here with their testing data? >> reporter: you're right. that fedex van is taking the tests that were just done here at this location in south phoenix and is taking them to lab here in arizona. they will be shipping them to irvine, california because the labs here don't have the capacity. if you look at the numbers, you'll see over the last four or five days sorts of flattening of the cases. this is where the state is stuck
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right now. is that the labs here in the state do not have the processing capabilities right now. the state's main laboratory has asserted it will be ready to go by the end of this month. right now you're seeing these tests here heading over to california to be processed. you're seeing a percent positive rate of more than 2 22% which i the highest in the country. i want to put into context, it was 126 days ago that i flew out here. it was march 13th that i flew out to arizona. 126 days ago, this is the first major, federally backed testing site that has high capacity capabilities. the very first one. it's progress but that is the stakes in which the state is really seeing here. the governor is acknowledged this has to be quote the new normal. encouraging folks here in arizona to continue to take this seriously. the state has to do more than
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flatten its numbers. it needs to bring down its numbers to begin to function where the state should be here. chuck. >> a stunning reminder there that it took that long to get a massive testing site in one of the largest counties in america. mare k maricopa county. maybe the state isn't the largest but the county is one of the top ten there. thank you. let's go to erin where the biggest development today is the decision by fema to deploy military assets both to texas and california. those assets include medical workers. is california opening its arms to this and number two, how dire is the medical worker situation in california? >> the hospital system, without question here, in california is seeing signs of strains. hospitalizations are on the rise due to the pandemic.
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the department of defense stepping in to help sending some 160 medical officers including doctors, nurses and technicians. many of these hospitals still have capacity. they still have hospital beds. they still have space within their icus but they are absolutely exhausted. doctors and nurses have reached their limits. normally during times of strain such as this they would be able to look outside, to traveling nurse, traveling pools of technicians to supplement but those pools have also been exhausted because of hot spots, including arizona and texas and florida. the la county medical center, chief of staff says they are expecting to see the military support in the next few days and it will be a relief. take a listen. >> i'm relieved they are
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available to us. in fact, our hospital will be receiving from dod. we'regrateful for them to come. mike tyson distilled that down to every one has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. covid is punching us in the mouth. i don't know where it will go three months from now or year from now and neither does anyone else. all we can do is manage the best we can in realtime and try to manage things so we stay within our abilities. >> he's seen a potential glimmer of hope in some of the numbers. the positivity rate in california was 7.7% at the beginning of the week. now it's 7.1%. they will be watching that number very closely even though cases are still going up, there's a lot of testing going on here in california.
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they are really looking to see the numbers pick up and improve. chuck. >> that is, look a green chute is a green chute. a positivity rate can go down. let's take what we can get. thank you all. up ahead, the very latest on the coronavirus surge in the state of florida. we'll check in on one of the hottest spots there within the state of florida. first, we want to mark the passings of two important voices. one in journalism. the other in civil rights. chr christopher dickey died yesterday in paris. he spent three decades at the washington post. telling some of the important stories from across the globe. an important voice when we needed him. always based in paris for us.
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welcome back. it's safe the say that florida may be the hottest hot spot in the country, if not the world right now. reporting more than 11,000 new cases. 131 new deaths. more than 8900 floridans remain hospitalized. florida is the main hot spot. miami-dade county may be the hot spot. it reported more than 2400 new cases and 68 new deaths. that's first question i have for you. the city of miami mayor and if you have parts of the city of miami in your district, more people are getting to know miami dade encompasses 34 municipalities. how many ordinances do we have in miami date county now?
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>> that's a great question. i believe that different cities have different ordinances and as you mentioned, we have many cities in the north of miami dade county. i represent the western porks a -- portion and southern portion. we have had no leadership from the county mayor. he has been following the steps of the governor which has been following the steps of donald trump. as you mentioned, we are no longer a hot spot. at this point, we're at a boiling point. i have been talking to hospital administrators, my con stitch wents and we're at 118% of icu bed capacity in miami dade county hospitals. one of the bigst strains to the hospital system is we're losing our most valuable resource which is our hospital nurses, our icu nurse, our doctors. they are also getting covid.
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we have been asking support to come down to south florida. >> we have seen some military personnel deployed to texas and california. it's my understanding that the miami-dade hospitals could use that too. do you have any evidence you're getting these resources or have it been held up? >> we have not received any evidence we're getting those resources. what i heard is the governor has asked for help from the vice president. to tell you the truth, it's truly incomp tent unacceptable that we have reached this point in miami dade county and florida. we knew a few months ago what we needed to do. we had a window of opportunity to put our public health infrastructure in place. the county mayor, the county were very quick to reopen. we never had that 14-day
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consistent decline of covid-19 here in the area. the numbers speak for themselves. miami constituents are not only suffering pain of losing their loved ones but we're facing a dire situation and an economic crisis that we haven't seen before. we're expecting a million people to file for unemployment benefits in the next week. >> it does feel as if we're getting two different versions of things. i have to play where the governor says he sees the state's trend lines. take a listen. >> we are seeing some positive trends in the data if you look at orange county and some of the central florida areas. they have seen their central positivity stabilize and decline. i think it will becline a lot more. that's where it is. visits to emergency departments for covid like illnesses have declined for seven days here in the state of florida. that is a really leading indicator about people who will be admitted or not admitted to
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hospitals. i think we're in a point of where the testing has been relatively stable and we're testing a lot, obviously. the ed visit, there's a downward trend on that. if we can keep doing the basic things that they are doing here in other parts of the state, that's really going to help us get through this next two weeks. >> he's painting a picture that the next two weeks you'll get through it. what is it -- you're seeing one thing, he's saying another. why is that, do you think? >> i don't know what world the governor is living in. i feel like i'm watching an episode of the twilight zone. don't listen to me but listen to the public health experts that have been guiding us through this epidemic.
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we don't have enough testing sites built in place to the system pe went do have contact tracers. this is something we have been asking for. asking the governor and the mayor to put a plan in place. i don't want to hear anymore excuses. we should stop blaming the lab and the test results. we need to take action. we need to do it now. we need to do it now because lives are at stake. congresswoman, as you described, your district, the western and southern part of the county there, thank you for coming on and sharing your perspective on what you're seeing. still ahead, the tipping point on racial justice in
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we're now having 40 plus now new cases a day. i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day. >> that was june 30th when dr. anthony fauci laid out a worst case scenario. 73,000 yesterday were diagnosed. the united states is in a full blown crisis. there's pretty broad agreement on that now. that was not the case a month ago. the wall street published there op-ed from mike pence titled there isn't a coronavirus second waver. that was on june 16th. as of that day, these were the numbers. 110,000 deaths. 2.1 million cases. 28,000 hospitalizations. as of yesterday, 130,000 people have now died.
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welcome back. it's not an exaggeration to say there's a reckoning happening in this country, including a massive shift in the way we're looking at imagery related to race. corporations, organizations and states are rushing to review names, slogan and branding to show solidarity. mark esper banned the con fed rat battle flag on military installations by excludeing it from flags acceptable to fly. many corporations are coming, have been the focus of activists for years, if not decades. there's no better example of
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this shift from the washington football tool. decades of native activism that called for a change to the name, the team announced it would be retiring the name and is associated imagery. this decision came a week and a half after the team announced a review team announce ad review of the name pushed by sponsors including fedex and nike. joining me now, the founder and ceo of illuminate-ive. she's a member of the nation of oklahoma. welcome. so i want to start with, you know, a lot of political movements they have these hockey stick moments as it is known in business. you make no progress, no progress and then boom, here it is. is that how you feel with the washington name change these days? >> yes. thank you so much for having me
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on, chuck. i think what is so important for americans to understand, has the fight for decades and decades led by thousands of native people. definitely this was a confluence of events that was happening. and we first and foremost need to understand, in this moment, it comes down to the murder of george floyd that sparked this movement and this reckoning in the united states, this systemic racism. the movement for black lives, this conversation about systemic racism and all the conversations that reignited this longstanding battle to change this dictionary defined racial slur that was the washington football team name. >> let's talk about the larger conversation. many high schools, many school districts around the country are looking at some of their imagery. in some cases, it is more the imagery than the names.
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in some cases it is the names more than the imagery. what would you like to see? what would you like to see? are there names you feel like native-americans would find acceptable depending on the imagery? >> to your point, there are more than 900 schools across the united states that still have native mascots. as you pointed out, everything from names to imagery. our position is they all need to go. our position is derive first and foremost not only as our experience of native americans and how we find that deeply harmful and offensive. but the science shows that american mascots cause psychological harm to native-american children. i think that's really important for educators, for parents to understand. these are not just sort of harmless things that are associated with sports. it's the science that really
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shows it decreases possessions, anxiety among native-american children. it is shown to increase negative stereo types among native people and it can continue to feel bias and prejudice. it has no place in schools. schools are supposed to be places that are safe places and not hostile learning environments. not environments whereby as against one group is promoted. so i think it is important for educators across the country to dig into the science. this is not about political correctness. this is about fighting racism and it is about protecting native-american children and really, the time is now for everyone to stand on the right side of history and to think about what is best for not only native-american children but for all children. that means removing all native mascots out of schools. >> let me bring you to the issue of florida state. that university works the seminole tribe. they go, they try to basically,
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before they do something they try to get position from the tribe. is that a partnership you find acceptable and that makes it okay? or do you think, look, the seminole tribe, that was find but. where are you on something like that? >> i'm always going to respect tribal sovereignty and the agreement with the university. however, the science shows that native mascots are incredibly harmful to our children, right? it's shown to fuel bias and racism. this is research that has just come out. part of it has been out for more than a decade. there is been a payment just published that really highlights the importance and the harm that it causes. i'm hopeful as more and more people get educated, including native-americans, these things are not good. our hope is that by ending native mascots, which really
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serve to dehumanize native americans, we want to be seen for who we are in the 21 century. we're not caricatures. we need to understand that red face is black face. we need to understand the types of appropriate rags that happens when fans don headdresses and paint their faces, it is fueling harm and we need to to that now. i'm hopeful as more and more people get educated about the science behind this and why this needs to go that we'll see more and more people be on board. communities need to be in dialogue with native peoples. that's the problem with this. people constantly dismiss the concerns of native-americans around this issue and it is important that native-americans be at the table with these teams and the leagues. >> it does seem like a moment where okay, you have to have
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