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i want to set the scene. behind the casket is john miles, the congressman's son, his brother, sam lewis, grant lewis and his sister, rosa. and michael collins was his chief of staff on capitol hill, but they were so much more. they were like family with each other during their time on capitol hill. still with me is brittney cunningham and the civil rights leader and activist, bernard lafayette jr. we have only a fewing seconds left, but reverend, i wanted to talk to you because a lot of people who are just learn iing about the movement don't know but this was not the only instance of violence that congressman p lewis faced. this is where he suffered a skull fracture, but you talk about you having cracked ribs and john lewis was repeatedly
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struck. this lifelong commitment to nonviolen nonviolence, where did that come from with the congressman? >> it is something that happened when he was very young. and he made that commitment. he did not want to live under the circumstances and he also believed that they could be changed. that's why he applied for a library card and he also you know, wanted to go to college there. in alabama. ended up at american baptist seminary. so it was something in his blood. in his conscious. in his spirit. and while he tried to persuade others to also join him. >> i'm so sorry, i hate to
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interrupt you, we just want to listen in on what's happening right now. >> yes, that's fine. ♪
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the body has been loaded back into the hearse. you see the car survrounded by onlookers and hopefully you heard the crowd singing spirituals and hymnals. britney, you get the last word on this very somber moment. >> i think we all just heard the ending of one of those march songs that congressman lewis' generation taught us how to sing. and it ends --
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♪ before i be a slave i'll be buried in my grave and go home to my lord and be free ♪ when congressman lewis and vivian passed on the same day, i was reminded of our privilege to fight for justice and freedom. we are privileged and blessed that john lewis did not die on that bridge, but that he lived to be our elder and pass on the wisdom of this work. our elders become our an zesters to remind us to be free, so the persistent question we need to ask ourselves every day somewhat kind of ancestor will we be, what it is to have seen our now ancestor cross the very bridge where he almost lost his life and cross it in victory. as we close, we have to remember that the only way we can walk victoriously across the bridges that tried to bury us is to every single day, practice the
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discipline of courage. that is what john lewis did. that is what we are all called to do. >> wow, thank you so much for that. john lewis tweeted in 2018, never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get into good trouble. necessary trouble. that does it for me. thank you to all my guests for joining me this last hour and alex whit pis picks up our covee right now. ♪ welcome, everyone. we are staying right here in selma, alabama where a very powerful tribute for john lewis has taken place. for the last time, the casket was carry ied across the edmund
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pettus bridge, the same bridge he and other advocates marched across on bloody sunday, 55 years ago. talk about the weight of this moment for such an icon of the civil rights movement. what was the mood like for this very solemn event from those watching there in person? >> such a moving and emotional moment here on the ground. as soon as john lewis' horse drawn carriage with that casket turned the koerncorner, people brought out in song. people began to sing, woke up this morning with my mind stayed on freedom. it's an old song. i use d to sing it growing up i church. as the casket grew closer, people began to shout out, we love you. thank you.
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obviously, you saw the horse drawn carriage go over those red roses laid all across the bridge, symbolic of the blood that was shed here 55 years ago. and just hearing those old spirituals that brought folks over and through that time and to think about john lewis now going home to be with those an szest ers, many of whom have already passed who were also on that bridge with him in 1955, 1965, excuse me, and obviously, you know, when he got to the top of the bridge, there was a moment, about a minute, where you know, it just, the hearse stopped. the carriage stopped and there was a moment of reflection then the family obviously join and went the rest of the way down with the casket and those alabama state troopers who, in 1965, were the ones you know, beating john lewis and other demonstrators as they marched across this bridge and to see them today salute his casket, just truly an incredibly moving
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experience. many people i was standing near, a few older people and some even began to cry just watching this and thinking about everything that's happened leading up to this point. and his casket is going to follow the same route those marchers did all those years ago to the capital in montgomery, where he will lie in state there, and folks will be able to skrit vi visit and pay their respects there. >> it has been quite something to watch. we knew it would be a very emotional day. it's been that exactly. there were tears, but such beautiful, heartfelt singing there as you talked about those spiritual songs. among them, we shallover come. tell me, what a happens mow? where will this hearse go next? >> he'll lie in state today then
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go to washington, d.c., where he'll lie in state at the u.s. capitol where he spent so much time add voe a kating for folks. he'll be at the top of those steps and people will be able to pay their respects there. then the final leg of the journey will be held in atlanta. he'll lie in state in georgia before his final home going service and before he's ultimately laid to rest. >> pri sscilla, i'm sure it was bit of an honor to be able to witness this. i envy you. i wish i had been there as well. thank you so much. we'll speak with you in the next hour. i'm joined by giuliani cob, staff writer at "the new yorker" and jason johnson. gentlemen, talk about what we have witnessed. the importance of it. the importance of devoting the time that we did here at msnbc,
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in an almost reverential way. >> i think it's all deserve and entirely appropriate for someone of his stature and standing. as i've been saying, as a historian, i've been referring to him as a a primary source on the history. this is a person who lived through one of the most pivot at points in american society. and not only lived through it, was an architect in many of the crucial struggles to achieve some semblance of actual democracy in this country. just on one personal note, the last time i saw congressman lewis was last spring. there were congressional hearings on domestic terrorism and i took my students from columbia journalism school down. we hopped on the early train and got there for the hearings. and as a professor, i'm constantly telling my students
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to not be impressed by status, by standing. that you know, your job is to hold power to account and that you really should have a skeptical view of the people you encounter. irrespective of how much a claim they have. and i had the to contradict myself because on the way out of that hearing, we ran into congressman john lewis and my students all crowded around. we took a photograph of him and he was busy. on his way to a hearing of his own, but he stopped and he wanted to know the students interests and what they were thinking about and what they thought of the hearing they had attended. it was that kind of personal investment in the young people and people coming after, not to simply you do as a matter of being in touch with your constituent, but something you do when you genuinely care about the future of society and the people whose hands it will be in. >> i was smiling as you were describing that. i've been with this network for a number of years and i had the very good fortune to interview
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john lewis here in the studio. he was sitting right across from me from where i am right now. and it was incredible. the feeling when ohe came into this studio and sat down, i was rendered speechless, which does not happen very often. and the warmth. the authenticity. the history with this man. the sincerity. there was so much about him that was so impressive and i will never forget and i'm entirely grateful that i had that brief interaction with him. he was remarkable. as i turn to you, jason, about this and what we've witnessed, we made the point it was 55 years ago that john lewis went across this bridge and had a very, very different experience. try to put that into perspective. what he experienced then, what we have given him now and what has changed and to the extent it
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has changed. >> you know, alex, it's not just that this is a sort of appropriate funeral u rall and procession, but it's necessary. because he's a soldier. he's a general. he fought against american apartheid and if we're going to honor people who literally fought one of the longest running wars in american history and that's how we have to look at this. the united states of america was essentially an apartheid state for black people until really the early '70s and he was one of the people who put his life on the line to bring that system down. and therefore, you cannot spend enough time talking about how magnanimous he is. you can't spend enough time praising him enough because we're losing this generation of people who remember what that battle was about. i want to add to this because i think this is key about people who fought those kinds of wars. he never retired. you can take a look a at the
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congressional register. he was still sponsoring legislation up until just a couple of weeks ago. my first time of meeting him was in 2014 in georgia when he was talk iing about fighting the th secretary of state brian kemp. and saying that he saw things in brian kemp that he hadn't seen since the 1960s when it comes to voter se precious, to the abuse and ait can attacks and a state sponsored violence against black people. it was always important, not what he did 50 years ago, but the fact he never stopped that battle up until the moment he passed. that's why we can't spend enough time praising him. >> you know, the last time we saw him in public was there at lafayette square in the wake of the put down of the protestors. his reaction to that. seeing the black lives matter
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mural hadn't been painted there. just a block and change from the white house. what do you think, he didn't speak a lot about his reaction to that. what do you think must have been going through his mind? he said it was extraordinary, yes, but how far things had come or had they? >> i think this struggle is a a perpetual one and no one knew it better than congressman lewis did. what i hope he took from that mural was the solace in knowing that the struggle was left in good hands. that he could lay his burden down and not have to worry that there were no people there to pick it up and continue moving it forward. certainly, t difficult with his absence. there are very few people who had the stature he had. i will remind viewers of one other moment where you saw just
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how much stand iing he had. in 2008, the midst of the heated presidential contrast of that year, where things began to veer very difficult and frightening direction. with people making comments about barack obama's ancestry and clearly racial -- being directed at him. john lewis said he was concerned about tone he was starting to see emerge on the right. and john mccain said he considered john lewis a hero to him. and he then made that famous statement where the person said that barack obama was a muslim and he said, no, he's not. he's an american. he's not a muslim. he's a person who happened to have differences with politically. so that should be clear there would not be anything wrong had he be a muslim.
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the point was that no one could have stepped into that conversation and said look we need to take the temperature down a notch. other than john lewis. i don't know that anyone could have said that and had the same credibility he did. >> to that point and to the point you made, jason, i was struck when you said we are losing people from this generation who have had such an impact in this fight for racial equality. john lewis as you well know, was the conscious of congress, right? so who steps into that role now? no one can step into his shoes admittedly, but where do we go? who picks up that mantle? >> i don't know. but what's been interesting, with the passing of john lewis, we're also seeing an end to an era of activism. the civil rights movement often
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focused on great men and great individuals and leaders, but our modern day activists have really askewed that. they said we're not going to have one great leader who could be taken down, be assassinated, be disparaged. we have many people acting autonomously to move forward. now,ly be the last person to predict, who knows one day our colleague, britney, is going to be a member of congress or senate, we don't know what the future will bring, but i know that there are people who are stepping in to those spaces, have been stepping into those spaces and will continue. they may not be the conscious of the congress from within the building, but they'll be the consciousness of people who care about moving this country to its idealistic future from the outside. >> well, all i can say neither of you might run for office, but i'm awfully glad we have your voices. guys, good to see you both on this very, very special day.
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as you probably know, most national polls have joe biden in front. the real clear politics average has him leading president trump by almost nine points. in the crucial battleground states, still biden leading by more than five points, but as many pundit will admit, a long way to go. in 2016, trump won pennsylvania by the narrowest margin after it went blue in 2008 and 2012 and looking ahead to this year's election, voters in the swing state are having to choose which way they'll be voting. ali velshi is in pennsylvania talking to vote ers about how ty feel about the issues and plans to vote on in 100 days. ali. >> hey, my old friend. something viewers may not recognize is while it's great to be on the show, you and i host add show together, so it is really terrific to be with you.
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here in bethlehem, pennsylvania, this plant was operated for about 147 years. really the heart of industrial pennsylvania. hasn't operated for about 25 years, but it is part of the issue in a swing state like pennsylvania. this is a state that is quite varied and it's got urban centers but really considers itself an industrial state. it's got a lot more in common with these rust belt states than it does with a lot northeastern states. one reason it swung was trump's promise to revitallize. when i'm talking to people, they're more concerned about trump's leadership than this particular story. listen to what they told me. >> i've just been so disappointed with what's been going on in this country for the last four years. the leadership, it's -- as far
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as i'm concerned. >> never been a big trump cheerleader. i'm frequently dismayed by the lack of presidential decorum, but on the other hand, he's a manager and i like the way he's managing. >> the president set ago tone, my 4-year-old, i would pull him aside and say don't you ever speak to someone that way. that's not a constructive dialogue. you're not going to change someone's mind. >> there's just a need for hard pivot in leadership. we cannot sustain this for another four years. >> just for some context, there were six people. can't get it too big because we're social distancing. three were republicans, three democrats. one of the republicans said he's planning the to not vote because he doesn't like joe biden and doesn't like donald trump. but what i did find is that they were discussing with each other very respectfully, very empathetically, but they weren't coming at it from the same place. the republicans that he's good manager. the democrats that he's a racist and has completely failed on the
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coronavirus front. so it was interesting to watch. they're getting information from different places and forming their opinions based on where they get their information. we'll continue to travel around and talk to people like this because we're going to need to get smarter about it in the next 100 days! thank you, my friend. now to the rust belt and battleground state of michigan as we mark 100 days to the election. a new cbs poll shows joe biden leading donald trump by eight points in michigan. this is a state where trump held a rally on november 7th, 2016, the day before the election, and won that state by less than a quarter percent. in ohio, that poll shows biden trailing trump by just one percentage point. let's go to corey in michigan today, but as i say welcome to you, you were many ohio yesterday. so michigan today. do these new polls support what you've been hearing from the voters? >> you know, it's so interesting
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to hear the latest numbers come out. i think that the ohio poll best represents what i'm hearing today and it's in relation to the actual tight margin between the two candidates. most folks i've spoken with feel the same way. they feel it's going to be a tight race and many are still undecided. specifically here in michigan, this spot, i've spoken to mostly trump supporters and republicans ch there were a few democrats that didn't want to go on camera. many more people were undecided, but for them, the main issue is going to be the economy. take a listen to what a trump supporter told me. >> i'm a trump man. i haven't been republican all my life, but more like independent, but now i like donald trump. i think he's doing the country good. he has done it good. he's got jobs here. what more can he do? >> would you trust trump to be able to get us out of this pandemic crisis then the ensuing economic crisis? >> no. absolute no.
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once the covid hit, it's all over. he doesn't know how to react, in my opinion, to a pandemic. oh, just the sniffles. you know. yeah, i mean, yeah. he's more financial than people dying. >> now voters disagree on who would be best to lead us out of and back into recovery after all of this has passed in you know however many months or year that is this pandemic might be with us, but one thing they did agree on is that they have concerns over the pandemic. they have concerns over voting with the pandemic and even the trump supporter that you heard if first, he even said he agree that is the entire country should be under one leadership and should lock down as needed. so there are certain points where voters can agree. it is such a tight race though, that it's anyone's guess at this point where that will lead in november. >> and frankly, the numbers are supporting that comment. thank you so much.
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appreciate the perspective. democrats are getting their hopes up for turning texas blue and the latest poll numbers from quinnipiac, it says 45% of texas voters would choose biden. 44% would choose trump. has the world come to an end? my goodness. joining me now, abby livingston. is texas going blue? last time it did that was 197676, jimmy carter won by 51%. what are the odd this is time? >> better than they've been in a long time, at least since bill clinton was president. the internal polling is matching this. this is a serious situation for republicans. i think the question going into the fall is will some of these republicans who support joe biden come home to the gop or whether these numbers withhold if the national parties start investing serious resources into the state. could they move one direction or the other with a concerted television campaign.
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>> so, if you have to put odds now, today being a snapshot, we know they can change in any given amount of time and we have plenty of time for it to change between now and november 3rd. what do you think is behind this possibility of texas voting democrat? >> well, you were just speaking to a reporter in michigan and the exact opposite of what happened in the rust belt went down in texas on november 2016. we saw parts of texas that should be republican move toward the democratic party. so i think what is driving this is down ballot. you have house legislative candidates getting out the vote and maybe even destigmatizing what it is to be a democrat in the state of texas. i also think the state has an affinity for him. if you remember, texas kind of sealed the nomination after south carolina for joe biden in way no one really saw coming. >> very good point. what do you think the biggest challenges are and regardless of the end result, do you think
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texas' results are going to keep us up late on november 3rd? >> we just had a run off a couple of weeks ago and turned around the vote pretty quickly compared to other states. is maybe. we are in such uncharted territory and i think there's going to be a lot of surprises both in the vote count and how people turn out and vote. >> for sure. thanks for the chat. appreciate that. joe biden may be taking his time choosing a running mate, but is he waiting too long to do it? does timing matter? here's chuck todd with what to look for over the next 100 days. >> to me, the most concerning thing and the biggest unknown right now is how we're going to conduct this election. how are we going to do the vote? count the vote? how are we going to mail in the vote? this is my point. i think that look, our, what is both the beauty of our election system in that it is different no matter where you go, so in
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some ways, it's hard to rig a vote but the lack of a nigs wide system with what we hold a vote with absentees and all those things will lead to a very complicated pandemic inspired election and that is my biggest concern. concern. alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. [grunting noise] i'll take that. woohoo! 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. with nutrients to support immune health.
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this year and i want to play for you a little bit about what the state board of election official told us a bit earlier. >> based upon the requests we're seeing and what we know has been happening in other state, we know that we're going to have a much higher rate of participation by mail. it's getting those supplies in. those materials ready, and just meeting those deadlines is really what keeps us up at night. >> now, crunch time for these officials as well as crunch time for the candidates. now, president trump trails biden in some of the most recent polling here in the state, but i spoke to a republican official from this county who said that you know, she is seeing extreme enthusiasm among women here, even if that's not necessarily reflected in some of the polls we're seeing. she had an interesting
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explanation as to why. take a listen to what she had to say. >> women want to come out and support him, but again, it's almost like when you're eating like a grimy piece of meat and you're just like oh, i don't think i can spit this out pub c publicly. i think a lot of women are worried about losing friends it or they want to go submit their vote and not put it out there publicly. >> democrats are hope iing to h on to their poll number, but there are so many unknowns. we have battleground races, surging covid-19 and north carolina has little experience with the vote by mail numbers we could be seeing in the coming months. >> thanks for the update from north carolina. while we are 100 days from election day, we are likely just days, at least we believe, from when vice president joe biden selected a running mate from these prospects. joining me now, former
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democratic presidential candidate and forever climate activist, tom steyer and kenesha grant. good to see you both. thank you so much for joining me. tom, you first here. before i get to the issue of the vp choices, you were a rival at one point. do you think the vice president should maintain his low profile approach now because it's working for him now, or do you worry that might ware oear out? >> look, i think the biden campaign is doing a fannic job because i think what they're doing is coming out with some policies and ideas that are transformational and really exciting. i mean, he came out with a build back better program for the economy. and for climate and clean energy. it's just a fantastic, aggressive, progressive program that is imbued with environmental justice.
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also a union work program and i think shows that this is going to be a transformational president and a transformational administration. so i think they're doing it exactly right and if you look at the results, he is really coming across to the american people. >> yeah. well, talk about transformational. the coronavirus has potentially changed this election in an historic way. not just for the policy missteps of this administration. for the actual campaigning aspect. you heard jordan jackson talking about what north carolina is saying. tenfold increase potentially for mail in ballots. what are your thoughts on this? the transformational change? >> yeah, my uncle robert grant died this week of covid so i'm among the many families grieving the loss of those who have covid. i think when my mother shows up at the poll, be it mail or in person, she will have him on her mind. that she will be thinking about the failures of this presidency
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to protect the american people. so i think that experience is not limited to my family, unfortunately, in that many people will be having that on their minds and be expecting that joe biden will be trans foring informational. just by virtue of the fact that he is competent and can lead, he will be a transformational president and one we need for this time. >> you're so right. so many people will have coronavirus on their minds. i'm so sorry about the loss of your uncle. with regard to the veepstakes, let's take a look at what a radio personality said. >> joe, you got to hurry up and announce your black woman vp so i can be enthused about voting for her because i will never be enthused about voting for you and you know america is in a a terrible place when kanye west seems like viable option. >> what is your reaction to that? is he echoing a sentiment that many voters hold? few voters hold? what's your sense of that? >> i'm going to get in trouble for this in my e-mail box, but i
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think he's saying things that people believe. i know there's a contingent of folks who believe in joe biden. who believe in the process who are going to vote for him no matter what and they're going to mobilize their communities to vote, but i also hear whispers from people not excited about joe biden. why it's necessary to vote for him, who are seeking other options and thinking about kanye west for one example, as potential option. so i think it's going to be incumbent upon joe biden to choose a black woman to get folks excited about this. to talk more about the lift every voice initiative. the policy proposals he has and not just expect we're going to show up because we don't like donald trump. >> i think you're inbox is going to be fine. tom, so the question to you here. will bernie sanders supporters be on board with joe biden come november? because there seems to have been something of an enthusiasm gap thus far and face it, the bernie
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sanders supporters for very enthusiastic. >> look, they're going to be for joe biden because in fact, he is much more progressive than he's been portrayed in the media. if you look, for instance, really at the program i was just describing the build back better program, it involves 100% clean electricity generation by 2035 and $2 trillion in the first four years. i think when people understand who joe biden is, and what he actually stands for, it is exciting. and he is transformational and this is a turn out election, alex. it's not a question about who you're for. it's a question about whether you're going to vote. and that, i believe, is going to be the whole question here and i believe we're going to have a massive historic turnout and it is going to sweep joe biden into office along with all the other democrats because this is the historic generational election where everything changes. >> so, tom, to make your words
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come true, who do you think is the veep pick for joe biden that will generate the enthusiasenth? >> i'm not going to come out for somebody because what i believe is this. i trust joe biden to choose a really terrific candidate and there are so many fantastic women that were on that screen. people who ran for president. people from my home state of california. especially, holding everything else common, you know, constant, i would love it if it were an african-american woman. but i'm going to trust joe biden to choose the right person and i know regardless, this administration is going to have, is going to reflect the people of the united states. it's going to look like the people of the united states, the democratic party, and i believe
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it's going to show people how exciting and trans foring informational joe biden is because he's going to come out with great people down the line sarting with the vice president. >> do you have a favorite? i mean you've said you want the president to pick a woman of color. is there someone you think will generate the excitement needed to put him over the top? >> i think i have to be very clear and honest with you and tell you i think it should be a black woman period. i think that there are many black women to choose from. i went to the same college as keisha lance bottoms and would be ever so proud to see her. i think karen bass is a strong woman, strong candidate, one who we haven't talked about. kamala is a howard grad. i think there are great things about all these folks and any would be a good choice. >> i'm a california girl. there's a couple of california girls on that one. i like that. to my california friend, tom, good to see you. kenesha, good to see you as well. fact check iing the preside.
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the tracker that shows he's made more than 20,000, 20,000, false and misleading claims and which ones he seems to repeat most. rt
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well, because today is the 100th day before the presidential election we're making chuck todd work overtime and assortment of esteemed political experts will size up all of the issues for election day. watching 100 days to go tonight at 10:00 eastern here on msnbc. let's go now to a stark look at how many false or misleading claims president trump has made since taking office. "the washington post" fact checker reporting more than 20,000 of these deceiving statements. including several that are out right lies. joining me now, glenn kessler, washington post fact check columnist. welcome to you. and the intent of your column was to chronicle the first 100 days but these numbers became so
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egregious that the washington post felt compelled to shed light on this president's false and misleading claims and you're right about how it took the president about two years and three months to reach the 10,000 mark but a little more than just over a year to double that to the 20,000 mark. that is an average of 23 false or misleading claims every day. what are the events that have contributed to that jump? >> well, part of it is that the president essentially became hus own press secretary. the last few months he's added someone who has regular briefings but for a long period of time, it was just the president speaking. the press secretary didn't do briefings and the president would talk constantly to reporters and give all sorts of media interviews and hold lots of rallies. those were things that really increased the number of false and misleading claims. and then in the last 14 months
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we've had impeachment inquiry and the coronavirus pandemic and that has brought the president out more and more and he said many, many false things about both of those subjects. >> yeah. you write in your column, glenn, the notion that trump would exceed 20,000 claims mr. he finished his term appeared ludicrous when the fact checkers started this process in the first 100 days in office in that time he averages fewer than five claims a day which would have added up to about 8,000 claims in a term but the tsunami of untruths just keeps looming larger and larger. this tsunami of untruths, is it the point that you just made, is it because the president spoke for himself and was left -- he was unleashed to do that, in other words. he was not guarded, he was not taking the advice of those around him, is that what happened? >> that is part of it. certainly. but president trump has a long
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history of not saying things that are true. and he feels that he can spin his way out of any difficulty by creating his own reality. and i should note, we've just pub lired a book, donald trump and his assault on truth which assembles a lost claims and puts it in a way readers could understand more in depth exactly the mend asity and the lying on a regular basis. >> that book, how much do you get pushback from supporters of donald trump, push back on your column every day? how is it that people who support him are able to either, a., turn a blind eye to the false and misleading claims or spin it to say that no, he's telling the truth. >> i think it is a combination of factors. one is that we've done a lot of polling as others have and many republicans acknowledge that
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president trump does not tell the truth on a regular basis. but they've decided it doesn't matter as much to them. they support him for political reasons or they support his policies. then there is also a segment of the population that actually believes what he says and that is part of his secret sauce for getting elected in the first place, is that he said things that most politicians won't say because they knew it was not true, but these were things that trump's supporters already believed so therefore when he said it, he sounded like a truth-teller. >> so last question, we're 100 days out from the election and do you think the amount of untruths that this president has hold will have an impact on voters or are we all numb to it at this point? >> well, the polling, the president is the first president since world war ii never to reach 50% approval rating. and one of the things that has really dragged him down is his reputation for trustworthiness. it is barely 33 say they believe
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he's trustworthy and that is a consequence of the fact he says so many things that are easily proven not to be true. >> glenn kessler from "the washington post" and the author of the new book "donald trump and his assault on truth." thank you so much for your time and speaking the truth here on weekends with alex witt. new polls for november and then back to selma and the edmu edmund pettus bridge and the memory of a man that will be forever lasting. n that will be forever lasting. pable lexus suv at the golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2020 nx 300 for $339 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. sti♪l fresh... experience amazing unstopables in-wash scent booster ♪ downy unstopables
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good day, everyone, from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." it is a very busy sunday with a lot of developments. we're get to it and start with the milestone as today marks 100 days before what could be one of the most consequence shall presidential elections in generations. as we sit here today most p