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hydroxychloroquine, they have certain use cases that are tried and tested, that have been rigorously analyzed. in this case, it's not. there's a reason why we say do not take hydroxychloroquine for covid-related indications. >> dr. vin gupta, thank you very much for joining us once again tonight. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> dr. vin gupta gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. and good evening once again. day 1,286 of the trump administration, leaving 98 days until the presidential election. well, it took just over a week, but the president has managed to fully revive the mood and feeling of those previous coronavirus briefings. today sounded more like early to mid-pandemic trump, declaring much of the country looks pretty good to him and recommending we take hydroxychloroquine. he also lamented dr. fauci's
popularity compared to his. all of this as americans remain unwelcome, barred from traveling in most of the world. all of this on the day the u.s. death toll surpassed 150,000. the state of florida in particular, in fact, set a one-day record of nearly 200 deaths. at the podium today, the president was defending a doctor in a video he re-tweeted. she claims to have the cure for the coronavirus and says masks are unnecessary. >> the -- the recommendations of many of the people including doctors, many doctors think it is extremely successful. the hydroxychloroquine coupled with the zinc. i happen to believe in it. i would take it. as you know, i took it for a 14-day period, and i'm here. there was a group of doctors yesterday, a large group that were put on the internet, and for some reason the internet wanted to take them down and took them off. they're very respected doctors.
there was a woman who was spectacular in her statements about it that she's had tremendous success with it. >> the woman that you said is a great doctor in that video that you re-tweeted last night said that masks don't work and there is a cure for covid-19, both of which health experts say is not true. she's also made videos saying that doctors make medicine using dna from aliens and that they're trying to create a vaccine -- >> i thought she was very impressive. i thought her voice was an important voice, but i know nothing about her. >> indeed the doctor has talked about demon sperm, about spontaneous pregnancies and alien dna. her name is stella emanuel. she's a pediatrician in houston and a local minister there. she operates a medical clinic in a strip mall next to her church called firepower ministries, and here is a sampling. >> so god decided to destroy the
world and start -- when god destroyed the earth at that time, what happened? what happened to this 30-foot -- that were walking the earth, those giants? they got flooded. they could not really die. they got flooded, and their flesh got pulverized, but what happened to their spirits? this mixed breed, they're still around today, and they're still doing one thing. they still lust after human beings. >> as for her advise on hydroxychloroquine, the fda has put out information about the use in clinical trials. trump and his son don junior shared several media posts attacking the credibility of dr. fauci. today the president was asked about that as well. >> the tweets that were deleted by twitter, you said that
dr. fauci misled the country about hydroxychloroquine. how so? >> no, not at all. i don't even know what his stance is on it. i was just -- he was at the -- he was at the task force meeting a little while ago. i have a very good relationship with dr. fauci. it's sort of interesting. we've listened to dr. fauci. i haven't always agreed with him. he's got a very good approval rating, and i like that. it's good because, remember, he's working for this administration. he's working with us, jon. we could have gotten other people. we could have gotten somebody else. it didn't have to be dr. fauci. he's working with our administration, and for the most part, we've done pretty much what he and others -- dr. birxs and others, who are terrific -- recommended. and he's got this high approval rating. so why don't i have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration with respect to the virus? we should have a very high because what we've done in terms of -- we're just reading off about the masks and the gowns and the ventilators and numbers
that nobody's seen and the testing at 55 million tests. we tested more than anybody in the world. i have a graph that i'd love to show you. perhaps you've seen it where we're up here, and the rest of the world is down at a level that's just a tiny fraction of what we've done in terms of testing. so it sort of is curious. a man works for us, with us very closely, dr. fauci, and dr. birx also, highly thought of, and yet they're highly thought of, but nobody likes me. it can only be my personality. >> trump also claimed large parts of our country are now, quote, corona-free. but according to "the new york times," his own government health experts don't agree with that. there are no regions of our country where the virus isn't present. "the times" says according to a new federal report, these 21 states have outbreaks serious enough to put them in what they call the red zone. local officials in those states being urged to impose more restrictions, not less, to
contain the virus. just yesterday the president was urging governors to reopen more quickly. then there was today's other big story. trump's attorney general was in the spotlight, testifying in his first first-ever hearing before the house judiciary committee. lawmakers spent months seeking attorney general barr's testimony. today he was questioned for nearly five hours on everything from politics at doj to his involvement in the release of the mueller report. barr and gop members of the committee were mainly focused on defending the presence of those militarized federal agents in portland, where protests have been under way nearby the federal courthouse ever since the death at police hands of george floyd. barr insisted the building is under siege. >> in the wake of george floyd's death, violent rioters and anarchists have hijacked legitimate protests to wreak senseless havoc and destruction on innocent victims. the current situation in
portland is a telling example. what unfolds nightly around the courthouse cannot reasonably be called protests. it is by any objective measure an assault on the government of the united states. federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? >> customs and border control tells nbc news it is sending more agents to portland. last week attorney general barr and trump announced that more agents would be dispatched to places like chicago and other cities dealing with a rise in crime this summer. the judiciary committee chairman, new york democratic congressman jerry nadler, wanted to know if barr had ever discussed the deployments in the context of the upcoming election. >> have you -- now, yes or no? have you discussed the president's re-election campaign with the president or with any white house official or any surrogate of the president? >> well, i'm not going to get
into my discussions with the president. >> have you discussed that topic with him, yes or no? >> not in relation to this program. >> i didn't ask that. i asked if you discussed that with -- >> i'm a member of the cabinet, and there's an election going on. obviously the topic comes up. >> so the answer is yes? >> well, if the topic comes up and cabinet meetings and other things. >> okay. >> it shouldn't be a surprise that the topic of the election comes up. >> i didn't say i was -- >> barr also said he thought there was a high risk of voter fraud with mail-in balloting and that we should assume russia is trying to meddle in our upcoming presidential election. in two notable exchanges, the attorney general was asked directly whether asking for foreign election interference was okay and about the possibility that trump might refuse to leave office if he loses in november. >> what will you do if donald trump loses the election on november 3rd but refuses to leave office on january 20th?
>> well, if the results are clear, i would leave office. >> do you believe that there is any basis or legitimacy to donald trump's recent claim that he can't provide an answer as to whether he would leave office? >> i really am not familiar with these comments. >> in april of this year, the republican-led senate intelligence committee unanimously found that russia interfered with our elections and attempted to undermine american democracy, correct? >> and i said so too. >> is it ever appropriate, sir, for the president to solicit or accept foreign assistance in an election? >> it depends what kind of assistance. >> is it ever appropriate for the president or a presidential candidate to accept or solicit foreign assistance of any kind in his or her election? >> no, it's not appropriate. >> okay. sorry you had to struggle with
that. >> we also learned today what attorney general barr has not been focused on of late, beginning with the recent teargassing of a navy veteran during the protests in portland. >> videos of christopher david, a navy veteran, beating beaten and teargassed by the officers. do you think that was appropriate? >> i didn't see him tear gases. there seems to be gas in the area. i don't know what kind of gas it was, and i don't know whether it was directed at him. >> are you aware that in may, the president tweeted -- and i quote -- mail-in voting will lead to massive fraud and abuse. it will also lead to the end of our great republican party, end quote? >> i was unaware of that tweet. >> can a sitting u.s. president move an election day? >> actually i haven't looked into that question under the constitution. >> are you familiar with the december 3rd, 2018 tweet where donald trump said roger stone had shown guts by not testifying against him?
>> no, i'm not familiar with that. >> you don't read the president's tweets? >> no. >> on that note, here with us for our leadoff discussion on this consequential tuesday night, two of the very best from "the new york times," peter baker, chief white house correspondent, and katie benner, justice department reporter for "the times." also back with us tonight, chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney, former senior fbi official. good evening and welcome to you all. and, katie benner, i'd like to begin with you because of some late nbc news reporting that the feds are reportedly considering pulling the feds back from where they are in portland. and i'm wondering if you can add to this. is this any part of a concerted perhaps change in strategy? >> yeah, i would say that we saw something akin to this hear in washington, d.c. where there was a really strong federal force at first, and then after pushback, the federal government found ways to move federal officers
out of the area. you know, they said that there was no longer a need for them, and they pulled them back. we're seeing sort of a similar pattern where the government has gone in ostensibly to protect federal buildings, to protect courthouses, but after sustained pushback, a lot of social media and a lot of what you could say are disturbing videos of people like veterans being what seemed to be brutally attacked, you know, finding a way to deescalate at this point might be necessary. >> peter baker, and our viewers, i hope, will forgive us for ping ponging back and forth between topics, but it's a lot. were we right at the top of the broadcast in saying in effect this was a reset? today in the briefing room was much more like early to mid-pandemic trump. >> yeah, i think that's right. last week of course he began having these briefings all over again. that in itself seemed to be a signal he was taking it a little bit more seriously than he had
in the previous weeks as these spikes have ravaged the south and west. he urged masks. he urged avoiding packed bars. he promised a relentless effort. he said in fact things were going to get worse before they got better. today you heard him sort of revert to what we had heard before that, which is, you know, grasping on to conspiracy theories and sort of wild internet claims rather than the assertions of his own federal health officials. this is a president for whom the cdc works, the hhs works, the nih works. he has the best federal scientists around, and he's trolling the internet looking for anybody, people he doesn't know, people who are relying on ali alien dna, for validation of his hope that this virus is somehow about to be over and behind him in time for this fall's election. >> and, chuck rosenberg, back into the hearing room today as
you are unencumbered by a "new york times" byline, can you please tell us how far from normal that testimony was for a sitting attorney general? his struggle, for instance, on the question of foreign assistance in our election. >> yeah. if anyone ever asked you, brian, whether you can accept foreign assistance, the answer is no. it's not a hard question. title 52 of the united states code makes it a felony to do so, not from a foreign person, not from a foreign government, not from a foreign corporation. you know, what really troubled me was that the attorney general seems to answer everything very legalistically, and that sort of makes sense for an attorney general, but, you know, that's just the floor. it's not enough. the fact that something might be lawful doesn't make it wise or appropriate or sensible. if you ask the attorney general, for instance, can the president pardon friends and allies, the answer is, sure, of course. the constitution permits it. but that's not a sufficient
answer. there has to be something more. you would expect the attorney general to also be talking as the attorney for the nation, that things that are legal are not always appropriate. and that was the problem today. >> katie benner, when you add the attorney general we witnessed today to your already existent body of reporting from the department of justice, have you any doubt that this president and his attorney general have an absolutely unbreakable bond? >> well, i will say that they are very close, but i want to maybe put a little bit of -- i would like to clarify one thing. you know, barr made clear to me today that he was not doing things at the behest of trump. they accused him of five things, swrielting the rights of civil protesters. they said he was refusing to acknowledge systemic racism in
policing. he doesn't believe that's true, that he was spreading disinformation about voting. that he misrepresented the mueller report, and that he interfered in investigations that were meaningful to the president. kno what is interesting, though, is that in all of these conversations and hearing is barr emphasized again and again and again he wasn't doing it for trump or at trump's behest. i think you have to start taking him at his word on that. when you have a president who makes every one of his desires known on twitter, and when you have an attorney general as far as our reporting has turned up, truly believes everything that trump -- he does not agree with him in any substantive way in the main. we have reporting from other former cabinet officials who have privately complained to associates they disagree with the associate. that is not bill barr. he agrees with him. so in some ways, you could say he's doing this for trump. you could say he's doing it at the behest. you could make that accusation. at the same time, i think we have to understand it's much
more likely he is doing these things because bill barr himself believes them to be correct and he's possibly grateful to have a president like donald trump with whom he agrees. >> and, chuck, back to that, the essence of bill barr, i want to play for you this exchange between congressman swalwell and barr. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> you were asked could a president issue a pardon in exchange for the recipient's promise to not incriminate him, and you responded, no, that would be a crime. is that right? >> yes, i said that. >> you said a crime. you didn't say it would be wrong. you didn't say it would be unlawful. you said it would be a crime. and when you said that, that a president swapping a pardon to silence a witness would be a crime, you were promising the american people that if you saw that, you would do something about it. is that right? >> that's right. >> now, mr. barr, are you investigating donald trump for commuting the prison sentence of his longtime friend and political adviser roger stone? >> no. >> why not? >> why should i?
>> chuck, in plain english, what do you make of that exchange and that answer? >> well, a couple of things. first, i thought congressman swalwell did a nice job of questioning. you don't always see good questioning at congressional hearings. i believe as a former prosecutor, i'm biased to former prosecutors, but i thought he actually really did a very good job of painting the issue. second, i was disappointed because again i think there's a more complex answer than barr was offering. he doesn't have to open an investigation of the president. but what he was saying ran counter to what he had promised during his confirmation hearing. you know, the pardon, again, would be constitutional. can the president pardon stone for an improper reason? yes, constitutionally he can. but it could also be a crime, which means that the pardon would stand, but there might be something for the department of justice to investigate. will this department of justice do it? apparently not.
and, again, that's where i'm so disappointed in the attorney general. i think his answers and his reasoning fall short consistently. >> and finally to you, peter baker, the other event we covered live on this network was in delaware as joe biden gave a statement and took questions from reporters and became the latest politician in the digital pixelated age to learn when you have legible notes on a piece of paper and you pull that from your pocket, we can see it. we can read it. we all noted zooming into it that the first category of notes was on kamala harris. peter, what do you make of it? >> well, obviously he's getting ready for questions about who his vice presidential running mate will be, and kamala harris is at the top of most lists, at least among the speculators. i think that she seems to be the one candidate that most
democrats see as the do-no-harm choice, the one who would probably, you know, be the least risky, and that's a big, big factor right now for former vice president biden. she's not the only one on the list. there are at least a handful of others, but he had to answer those questions. the first answer on that notes you just showed is do not hold grudges, referring back to the fact that the two of them had a pretty sharp exchange at one of their debates during the primary season when he had said he had been friends or at least worked collaboratively with segregationist democrats back in the day, and she said of course that she was one of those young african-american children who was, you know, in the middle of the segregation fight way back in that era. that was seen at the time as a pretty sour moment between the two. he's trying to say that's not enough to keep me from making her my running mate if it comes to it. so i think the fact that he had her at the top of that notes indicates serge at the very
least what kind of questions he was expecting. it may also indicate who is at the top of his own current list. >> to our big three tonight, our thanks. peter baker, katie benner, chuck rosenberg, greatly appreciate the three of you starting us off. and coming up, as we approach our first break, a former white house health official says he knows a way to get our country back to normal by october. but not everybody is going to like his idea. we'll hear him out. and later, we'll check in on one part of the country still cleaning up from a hurricane while battling the coronavirus just as the next hurricane out there may be setting its sights on the lower 48. "the 11th hour" just getting under way on a tuesday night. (groans) hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums
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but we are watching very carefully california, arizona, texas, and most of florida. it's starting to head down in the right direction. >> again, no region of our country is corona-free. that was the president today even as we're learning his own coronavirus task force just sent 21 states a report telling them they're in the red zone, calling for more restrictions, not fewer. attorney general barr has called trump's pandemic response superb and offered this defense of the president during today's hearing. >> the problem with the testing system was a function of president obama's mishandling of the cdc and his efforts to centralize everything in the cdc, when it -- >> thank you. thank you, mr. barr. >> we are happy to have back with us tonight andy slavitt. he's the former acting administrator of the centers for medicare and medicaid services
under president obama, was instrumental in the turnaround of the health care dot gov rollout. these days he is the board chair for the nonprofit group the united states of care. so, andy, the attorney general, as one does, blaming testing problems on the previous administration. what's your reaction. >> what year did president obama leave office again? 2016? and i think during the time period when president obama was in office, the cdc performed at among its highest level, including fighting off ebola and a number of other conditions. i don't know how long we're going to continue to have an argument, but it's got to be -- i mean i think it's got to be somebody else's fault whether it's china, democratic governors, whether it's the w.h.o., obama. as long as it's anybody's fault but the president, you know, i think that's the way this continues to go. and i think it's a lack of accountability that's challenging to us right now. >> andy, i'm looking at the
headline of the op-ed you wrote for "the washington post." let's throw the kitchen sink at covid-19 and get back to normal by october. go ahead. we can take it. give us your prescription if we want to do this right. >> okay. just to be clear, that was the editorial board that wrote that. i think they were using some of the things that i had said. and, brian, i think where i was going is if we had wanted to be in a place in october where we could do things like safely walk our kids to school and not worry about them, vote in person, get on airplanes, buy cars again, sign leases again, get the economy moving again, we could absolutely do that. we have all of the gifts required to fight the coronavirus because the coronavirus only spreads if we choose to breathe near one another. and if we don't, ands you becae incubation period is only a few weeks long, if we are willing to do what is being done now in new york and what has been done in
italy and spain and germany and france, in asia, in new zealand, we can essentially crush the virus. there are a few things we'd have to do. we know what they are. they're not necessarily fun to do, but at the end of this, we could get out of this what i call 75% existence where we kind of have a dragging economy, 1,000 people dying every day, and we can't move on with our lives, a lot of psychological pain, versus a plan that says what if we just bit the bullet, threw the kitchen sink at this thing for four or five weeks, and where would we be? we'd be in a very different place. we'd be in a place of very low case count. we'd have more than enough tests to catch anything that came up, and i think we could move forward in that way. >> to those already unemployed in this economy, looking at another four to five weeks of stagnation, what do you say to them? >> look, we face two years of
uncertainty or unknown amount of uncertainty. for people with anxiety and mental health issues, that's challenging. we don't see a lot of jobs coming back quickly, and the question is would we rather say, let's support the country. let's have the congress support the country through a four to five week period and then from there be in a position where we're as strong as ever? now, we have grandparents -- you and i probably do, many other people do -- that lived through a ten-year depression. they lived through a six-year world war. many of them emigrated to this country because they were -- had situations where their entire lives were under threat. and so what we're -- i think they would say to us, if for five weeks you could spend five weeks of sacrifice to save tens of thousands of lives and have your life back and have the country back, i think they'd say we should at least consider it. so i'm suggesting this ought to be part of the debate, part of the dialogue. it's not any one person's decision, but it's something
that we as a country should be facing together. the rest of the world has gone this direction. we strangely have not had this on the table. >> will you ever get used to the president of the united states recommending, endorsing a medication? >> no. no. and it doesn't matter what president of the united states. it doesn't matter what president, what son-in-law, daughter-in-law. it doesn't matter quite frankly who it is. we have a -- we have a process for doing that. it's called the food and drug administration. it's not perfect, but they use all of the best scientists and outside research experts in the world to evaluate these trials and these drugs. it's not a simple thing. it takes professionals. all of us, i think, don't want to be listening to our favorite politicians tell us, i think this drug is good. i think this drug is bad because we don't know if they know how to interpret real-world evidence
or data or science. i would rather we use evidence. and to the credit of the fda, although i don't think it was the right decision, they were -- they did what trump asked them to do. they created an emergency use order so that people could use hydroxychloroquine. they later then got evidence which showed that it was problematic and wasn't working effectively, and so they pulled it back. so no one can say that we're not trying, and if someone comes forward and presents evidence to the fda which shows that this works, that would be fantastic. but let's wait for that. >> andy slavitt, it's always a pleasure to have you on our broadcast. thank you very much for having us in and spending a few minutes with us tonight. coming up for us, arizona, one of the states cautiously optimistic about a possible plateau in virus cases. we'll check back with one of the doctors on the front lines in that state when we come back. (vo) parents have a way of imagining the worst...
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after weeks of dangerously relentlessly high numbers, arizona's coronavirus outbreak is showing some signs of slowing. coronavirus hospitalizations have shown a gradual decline. sadly, over 100 souls were added to the overall death toll just today. now one of the hardest hit sun belt states could serve as a
real-time experiment for the nation. as "the new york times" puts it, with prevention efforts on the rise, the vast majority of arizonans have been living with mask mandates and more shutdowns for about a month, about the time experts say it takes to start seeing the effect of new policies. and with us back again tonight, we're happy to welcome dr. akhter at arizona's college of medicine in phoenix where he has expertise on how racial inequality and income inequality affect longevity and health these days. doc, does it feel better where you are? >> thanks for having me back, brian. you know, the volume in the e.r. seems to maybe be at a plateau. we're still seeing quite a few covid and non-covid patients, but we've gotten used to seeing that. maybe there's even a little bit of a plateau. hard to know whether that's because we're used to it or
because it's an actual plateau, but this part still exists, which it is very hard to get a bad for an admitted patient. people are waiting for days in some cases. i'll come into a shift, admit a patient, go home, come back the next day and the patient is still there, which is very atypical for the e.r. there are long delays in care, that's for any kind of care, covid or otherwise. if somebody has had a heart attack, even that patient will wait in the e.r. for many hours. even though the numbers may be plateauing, it is very hard to get a patient admitted. on top of that, we just today ran out of rapid tests, which means even in the e.r. when we do a test on a patient, we have to wait hours if not a day to get a result back. so you can imagine how that's going to exacerbate delays for admissions. >> the president stood in the briefing room today and talked about all the material we are making and surging to the states. just some unbelievable numbers, a flurry of them, too many to
tally up, testing and the like. he again promoted hydroxychloroquine. overnight last night, he promoted a video of this doctor saying that masks were ineffective. she herself was promoting hydroxychloroquine. your reaction to all of this because it is a counterpressure to what you do for a living. >> that's exactly right. some of this shouldn't be political. there is utter consensus on the effectiveness of masks, utter consensus. to find the one doctor who is some sort of a whack adoodle in texas to say masks aren't effect but this hydroxychloroquine treats 100% of my patients. the reason you have me on is because i, like my colleagues, am trying to speak the truth. there are certain things we have evidence for, and there are certain things that are
debatable. there may be some benefit with hydroxychloroquine maybe if you do it in certain patients, but there are also side effects. we've known that for years. in terms of masks, there's very clear benefit. what's crazy to me is the president changes his opinion on this every day, it seems like. i don't know. he's got, like, the mentality of a 4-year-old. again, i don't want to be too political, but at some point for months we've been saying masks are effective. if we were effectively using masks and distancing, we could have almost ended a pandemic. other countries have basically gone back to almost normal. we could be at almost back to normal if we had a clear message and people followed instructions. it's really ironic and really absurd. as you can imagine when i'm on the front line trying to save lives, it's infuriating too because we really could be beating this. >> as we keep pointing out, we're not welcome in most of the world. we can't travel to most of the world, and it's for good reason right about now. dr. akhter, thank you very much
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welcome back. of course florida remains a coronavirus epicenter with way more cases than most nations on the planet. and sadly florida is in the cone for what could be the next tropical storm or hurricane in the southern atlantic by the weekend. it comes just as another sun belt state, texas, recovers from hurricane hanna's damage over the weekend while also struggling to contain its own virus outbreak. coronavirus death in the state has now surpassed 6,000. today the governor urged texans
to remain vigilant. >> just because a hurricane has swept through here does not mean that it has swept out covid-19. until there are medicines capable of treating it, there's only one thing that we can do to contain the spread of covid-19, and it is the best practices that include things like wearing these face masks, hand sanitizing, keeping your distance from others. >> for the record, it took the governor months to adopt that position. for more, we welcome to the broadcast judge barbara canales. she is top official in knew ace as county text, which includes cor pusz christie. she was among texas officials who met with the governor today to discuss state and federal support. judge, tell us about the confluence of these crises in your area. >> well, it makes for an incredible challenging job for any county judge for sure, but we believe that, you know, there's really not going to be
any help with panic, so preparedness is the name of the game. and we have tried to be as proactive as possible and also as collaborative as possible. and that has served our community very well, brian. >> as we went off the air friday night, we talked about this possible landfall over the weekend, and we mentioned this virus thrives on places like shelters where people are on cots and floors. wherever two or more people are shoved together, that's where it spreads. do you think people were able to take enough precautions with a big storm approaching from offshore? >> so it was really fascinating because, of course, our community had lived through harvey in 2017, which was a devastating impact to a particular area in our county called port aran sis. and this coastal city really
beared the brunt, and the rest of us were somewhat protected by our island. having said that, we are always on hurricane watch here. so i thought it was very interesting. we had very few people in our shelters. i attribute that to the fact they were very fearful because of covid-19. they felt very much more protected in their own homes. but the real story was is that hanna became a hurricane within hours. before that, it was a tropical storm and seemed like there was only hours to prepare for its version of a tropical storm before it was a tropical depression. so this was a rapidly changing dynamic storm, and it really didn't give people the opportunity to think hurricane. they really thought there was going to be high winds and water, which on the gulf coast we're quite accustomed to. >> judge, when you see your governor brandishing a mask, when you hear him advocating things like mask-wearing, do you think to yourself, well, better
late than never? >> i'm grateful for it right now. i can tell you that i have seen a complete change in our own community ever since he decided that, you know, it was going to be the right thing for texas. and so because he is our leader, it makes an impact on folks. and i think that we here in the coastal bend needed that leadership, and i'm grateful for it. and it has made an impact. there is no doubt in my mind that the order that i had initiated is bolstered and strengthened by the governor's action. >> president's coming to your state tomorrow. final question, what would you like to hear from him? >> well, right now there's no doubt that we need resources here in our community for both our hurricanes, the hurricane that's covid-19 and the one that just passed. we need federal resources, public assistance to help rebuild infrastructure and
facilities on our gulf coast beaches. we also need the type of military medical personnel that is really keeping our hospitals alive right now. our icus are still packed. our death rate is still too high, and it is these types of teams working in collaboration with our state teams that are keeping our hospitals running. and we cannot be without them. >> judge, you get to serve in a great part of a great state. thank you very much for having us in tonight and for spending a few minutes with us. judge barbara canales in texas, greatly appreciate it. coming up for us, just five nights after the opening pitch, tonight there are questions now about how long this already shortened season can go on. baseball during a pandemic when we come back. >> tech: at safelite, we're committed to taking care of you and your car. >> tech: we'll fix it right with no-contact service you can trust.
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you know, it's been less than a week since the first pitch was thrown, but already the future of the baseball season is in doubt. this is a dicey period for america's pastime with one team idle, removed from the schedule through this weekend, with all the problems that brings. major league baseball is taking sweeping action to try to save this already shortened season, but will it be enough? we get an update tonight from correspondent sam brock. >> reporter: tonight major league baseball announcing the miami marlins games are postponed through sunday after four more players tested positive for covid-19, taking the total to 15 since opening day, or roughly half the team's traveling roster. the marlins remain quarantined following more testing. some opposing managers are nervous. >> my level of concern went from about an 8 to a 12. >> reporter: last night on mlb network, commissioner rob manfred laying out what circumstances might cause a
stoppage. >> i think that a team losing a number of players that rendered it completely non-competitive would be an issue that we would have to address. >> reporter: john ba rosie with mlb network says the marlins now have a few days to try and field a competitive roster. have any players on any teams tested positive other than the marlins in the last several days? >> as of friday until now no other teams in baseball besides the marlins have had an onfield player register a positive test. >> reporter: the league said its positivity rate through last thursday is below 1% as it tries to keep an feck shusz disease from stopping sports. sam brock, nbc news, miami. when we continue, one of several notable moments, a tense one at that from today's hearing with the attorney general.
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in this very room just recently, congresswoman jayapal -- do you agree with ms. jay appall that there was no takeover. >> jayapal. if you're going to say my name, please say it right. it's jayapal. >> last thing before we go here tonight, congresswoman jayapal had a busy day at today's hearing. first there was the matter of explaining to her colleague and fellow committee member how to pronounce her name.
then came her turn to interrogate the attorney general about specifically the discrepancy, about why he sends the feds in for some protests but not the time those pro-trump protesters with long guns took over the michigan statehouse and threatened the governor. >> june 1st i was worried about the district of columbia, which is federal. >> -- certain parts of the country. you're very aware of those. but when protesters with guns and swastikas and -- >> i'm aware of -- >> excuse me. this is my time, and i control it. the point i'm trying to make here, mr. barr, that i think is very important for the country to understand is that there is a real discrepancy in how you react as the attorney general, the top cop in this country, when white men with swastikas storm a government building with guns, there is no need for the president to, quote, activate you because they're getting the president's personal agenda done. but when black people and people
of color protest police brutality, systemic racism, and the president's very own lack of response to those critical issues, then you forcibly remove them with armed federal officers, pepper bombs, because they are considered terrorists by the president. you take an aggressive approach to black lives matter protests but not to right-wing extremists threatening to lynch a governor if it's for the president's benefit. did i get it right, mr. barr? >> i have responsibility for the federal government, and the white house is the seat of -- >> mr. barr, let me just make it clear that -- >> the michigan authorities can handle -- >> the united states of america not violate people's first amendment rights. you are supposed to uphold democracy and secure equal justice under the law, not violently dismantle certain protesters based on the president's personal agenda. >> the gentle lady's time is
expired. >> it went about like that. congresswoman jayapal, democrat of washington state, to take us off the air tonight. that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. thank you so much for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. rachel has the night off, but tonight the united states has passed a milestone. i didn't predict we would hit this soon. with the number of confirmed cases of coronavirus now more than 4.3 million, our nation has now lost more than 150,000 souls to covid-19. and "the new york times" reports today that the federal coronavirus task force has designated 21 out of our 50 states as so-called red-zone states, meaning they're adding cases at an alarming rate. what the federal government told officials in those states to do about it was undercut w