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continue to socialize and don't -- don't follow social distancing. i can't really -- i can't predict. i don't have a crystal ball. >> dr. erin marcus, who is there in miami in south florida. thank you for making time tonight. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" for this evening. the 11th hour with brian williams starts right now. well, it took just over a week but the president has managed to fully revive the mood and feeling of those previous coronavirus briefings. today sounded more like early to mid pandemic trump declaring much of the country looks pretty good to him and recommending we take hydroxychloroquine. he also la meanted dr. fauci's popularity compared to his.
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all of this as americans remain unwelcome, barred from traveling in most of the world. all of this on the day the u.s. death toll surpassed 150,000. the state of florida in particular in fact set a one day record of nearly 200 deaths. at the podium today the president was defending a doctor in a video he retweeted. she claims to have the cure for the coronavirus and says masks are unnecessary. >> the -- it's recommendations of many people including doctors. many doctors think it is extremely successful, the hydroxychloroquine coupled with the zinc. i took it for a 14-day period. i happen to believe it. i'm here. there was a group of doctors yesterday, a large group, that were put on the internet and for some reason the internet wanted to take them down and took them off. they're very respected doctors.
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there was a woman who was spectacular in her statements about it that she's had tremendous success. >> the woman that you said was a great doctor said masks don't work and there is a cure for covid-19 both of which health experts say is not true. she's made videos saying doctors make medicine using dna from aliens. >> i thought she was very impressive. i thought her voice was a very important voice but i know nothing about her. >> indeed, the doctor has talked about demon sperm, spontaneous pregnancies and alien dna. she's operating a clinic in a strip mall next to her church called fire power ministry. >> they destroyed the world.
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god destroyed the earth at that sniem what happened? what happened to this 30 foot walking the earth, those giants? they got flooded. they could not die. they got flooded and their flesh got over rised. what happened to the spirit? this mixed breed? there are still fephilims around today. >> as for her advice on hydroxychloroquine, the fda has put out strong warning about the use of the drug. trump and his son don jr. shared several social media posts attacking the credibility of dr. fauci. today the president was asked about that as well. >> in tweets that were deleted by twitter you said dr. fauci
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misled the country about hydroxychloroquine. how so? >> no, not at all. i don't even know what his stance is on it. he was at the task force meeting just a little while ago. i have a good relationship. i haven't always listened to him. he has a very good approval rating. that's good. he's working for this administration. he's working with us. we could have gotten other people. we could have gotten somebody else. it didn't have to be dr. fauci. we have done what he and dr. birx and others recommended. he's got this high approval rating. why don't i have a high approval rating with respect -- and the administration with respect to the virus? we should have a very high -- because what we've done in terms of we're reading off about the masks, gowns, ventilators that
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number is nobody something, 55 million tests. we tested more than anybody in the world. i have a graph i'd love to show you, perhaps you'd like to see it, we're up here and the rest of the world is down at a level -- just a tiny fraction of what we've done in terms of testing. it is curious, a man works with us, for us, very closely, dr. fauci and dr. birx also very highly thought of, they're highly thought of and nobody likes me. it can only be my personality. >> trump also claimed large parts of our country are now, quote, corona free. his own government health experts don't agree with that. time says according to a federal report, these 21 states have outbreaks serious enough to put them in what they call a red zone. local officials being urged to have more restrictions, not
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less. just yesterday the president was urging governors to reopen quickly. trump's attorney general was in the spotlight testifying in his first ever hearing before the house judiciary committee. lawmakers spent months seeking attorney general barr's testimony. today he was questioned for nearly five hours on everything from politics at doj to his involvement in the release of the muller report. barr and the gop were working on having the information for the protests. barr insisted the building is under siege. >> in the wake of george floyd's death, violent rioters and anarchists have wreaked senseless destruction and havoc on innocent victims.
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what unfolds nightly around the courthouse cannot reasonably called protests. it is by any objective measure an assault on the government of the united states. federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? >> customs and border patrol tells nbc news it is sending more agents to portland. last week attorney general barr and trump announced more agents would be dispatched to places like chicago and other cities dealing with a rise in crime this summer. new york democratic senator jerry nadler wanted to know if he ever discussed the upcoming election. >> yes or no? have you discussed the president's re-election campaign with the president or with any white house official or any
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surrogate of the president? >> have you discussed that topic with him? >> not in relation to this program. >> i didn't ask that. >> i'm a member of the cabinet and there's an election going on. obviously the topic comes up. >> the answer is yes. >> the topic comes up in cabinet meetings and other things. it shouldn't be a surprise that the topic -- >> i didn't say it was a surprise. >> barr also said he thought there was a high risk of voter fraud with mail-in balloting and we should apply. in two noetdable ways, is foreign election okay and what if trump refuses to leave office if he loses in november. >> what will you do if donald trump loses the election on november 3rd but refuses to leave office on january 20th?
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>> if the results are clear, i would leave office. >> do you believe that there is any basis or legitimacy to donald trump's recent claim that he can't provide an answer as to whether he would leave office? >> i really am not familiar with these comments. >> in april of this year the republican led senate intelligence committee unanimously found russia interfered with our elections and attempted to undermine democracy? >> i said so, too. >> is it ever appropriate for the president to look for assistance in an election. >> depends what kind of assistance. >> is it ever appropriate for the president or presidential candidate to accept or elicit foreign assistance. >> no, it's not appropriate. >> sorry you had to struggle
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with that. >> we also learned today what attorney general barr has not been focused on as of late beginning with the recent tear gassing of a navy veteran. >> that video was a navy veteran being tear gassed and beaten by officers. do you feel that was appropriate? >> i didn't see him tear gassed. there was gas in the area. i don't know whether it was directed at him. >> are you aware that in may the president tweeted, and i quote, mail in voting will lead to massive fraud and abuse. it will also lead to the end of our great republican party, end quote? >> i wasn't aware of that tweet. >> can a sitting u.s. president move an election date? >> actually, i haven't looked into that question under the constitution. >> are you familiar with the december 3rd, 2018 treat where donald trump said roger stone
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had shown guts. >> no, i'm not familiar with that. >> you don't read the president's tweets? >> no. >> on that note, here with us for our lead off discussion on this consequential tuesday night, two of the very best from "new york times," peter baker and katie benner, justice department reporter for the times. also chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney, former senior fbi official. good evening and welcome to you all. the feds are reportedly considering pulling the feds back from where they are in portland and i'm wondering if you can add to any of this. is this any part of a concerted perhaps change in strategy? >> we saw something akin to this in washington, d.c., there was a strong force and after push back the federal government found ways to save face and move federal officers out of the
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area. they said there was no other need for them and they pulled them back. we're seeing sort of a similar pattern where the government has gone in ostensibly protect federal governments but after sustained push back and disturbing videos of people like veterans seeming to be brutally a being at thatted. >> peter baker, our viewers i hope will forgive us for ping ponging back and forth between topics but it's a lot. were we right at the top of the broadcast in saying in fact this was a reset. today in the briefing room was much more like early to mid pandemic trump? >> yeah, i think that's right. last week he began having the briefings all over again. that seemed to be a signal he was taking it more seriously.
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the spikes have ravaged the south and west. he urged masks. today i think you heard him sort of revert to some of what we had heard before that, which is, you know, grasping on the conspiracy theories and wild internet claims rather than the assertions of his own federal symptoms. he has the best federal scientists around and he's trolling the internet looking for anybody, people who are relying on alien dna for validation of his hope that this virus is somehow about to be over for this fall's election. >> chuck rosenberg back into the hearing room today as you are
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unencumbered by a "new york times" by line. can you tell us how far from normal that testimony was for a sitting attorney general. his struggle, for instance, on foreign assistance in our election. >> yeah. if anyone ever asks you, brian, whether you can accept foreign assistance, the answer is no. it's not a hard question. title 52 of the united states code makes it a felony to do so, not from a foreign person, not from a foreign government, not from a foreign corporation. what really troubled me was that the attorney general seems to answer everything very legalistically. that sort of makes sense for an attorney general. that's just the floor. it's not enough. the fact that something might be waffled doesn't make it sensible. can the president pardon friends and allies. the answer is, sure, of course, the constitution permits it but
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that's not a sufficient answer. there has to be something more. you would expect the attorney general to be talking as the attorney for the nation that things that are legal are not always legal. that was the problem today. >> when you add the attorney general we witnessed today to your already existent body of reporting from the department of justice, have you any doubt that this president and his attorney general have an absolutely unbreakable bond? >> i will say they are very close. i want to clarify one thing. barr made clear to the committee today that he was not doing things at the behest of trump. they accused him of five things, violent rights with protesters. they said he was refusing systemic racism in policing, he
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misrepresented the muller report and that he interfered in investigations that were meaningful to the president. what is interesting is that bar emphasized again and again and again he wasn't doing it for trump or trump's behest. he was taking an active road on that. the president makes every one of his desires on twitter and you have an attorney general who truly believes everything from trump. he does not disagree with him in any substantive way. we have other officials who have privately complained and not bill barr. in some ways you can see he's doing this for trump, doing it at the behest. at am same time. he's doing these things because
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bill bar believes then to be correct. her president liked donald trump with whom he agrees. >> chuck, back to the essence of bill bar. this exchange, we'll talk about it on the other side. >> you were asked could a president issue a pardon in exchange for the recipient's answer, you responded, no, that would be a crime. >> yes, i said that. >> you said crime. you said it would be a crime. when you said that, that a president swapping a parlance of a crime. >> now mr. barr are you commuting donald trump for commuting the sentence of roger stone? >> no. >> why not? >> why should i?
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>> chuck, in plain english, what do you make of that claim and that answer. >> i thought the congressman did a nice job in questioning. we see good questioning in professional hearings. i believe he's a former prosecutor. i'm biased to former prosecutors. i thought he did a good job of painting the issue. second, i was disappointed. i think there's a more complex answer. what he was saying ran counter to what he promised during his confirmation hearing. the pardon again would be constituti constitutional. >> yes, constitutionally he can. it could also be a crime. the pardon might stand but there might be something for the department of justice to investigate. will this department of justice
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do it? apparently not. i think his answers and reasoning fall short consistently. >> finally to you, peter baker, the other event we covered live on this network was in delaware. he took questions and became the latest politician in the digital pixel lated age to learn when you have legible notice on a piece of paper. we can see it, we can read it. we all noted in zooming in on it that the first notes were about kamala harris. >> she's the top of most lists. at least among speculators.
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she is the do no harm choice, the one that would probably, you know, be the least risky, and that's a big factor. she's not the only one on the list. the first answer on the notes you just showed is do not hold grudges. referring back to the fact that they had friends, segregationists, she was one of those african-american children who was in the middle of the segregation fight way back in that era. that was seen at the time as a pretty sour tone. that's not enough for him to be the mayor and my running mate. i think the fact that he had her at the top of that indicates what kind of questions he was
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expecting. >> to our big three tonight, our thanks. peter, katie, chuck lewis. we greatly appreciate you starting us off. as we approach our first break, a former white house official says he knows a way to get our country back to normal by october. not everybody is going to like his idea. we'll hear him out. later, we'll talk about one part of the country. the 11th hour just getting underway on a tuesday night. und.
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you can look at large portions of our country. it's corona-free. but we are watching very
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carefully california, arizona, texas, and most of florida. it's starting to head down in the right direction. >> again, no region of our country is corona-free. that was the president today even as we're learning his own coronavirus task force just sent 21 states a report telling them they're in the red zone, calling for more restrictions, not fewer. attorney general barr has called trump's pandemic response superb and offered this defense of the president during today's hearing. >> the problem with the testing system was a function of president obama's mishandling of the cdc and his efforts to centralize everything in the cdc, when it -- >> thank you. thank you, mr. barr. >> we are happy to have back with us tonight andy slavitt. he's the former acting administrator of the centers for medicare and medicaid services under president obama, was
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instrumental in the turnaround of the rollout. these days he is the board chair for the nonprofit group the united states of care. so, andy, the attorney general, as one does, blaming testing problems on the previous administration. what's your reaction? >> what year did president obama leave office again? 2016? and i think during the time period when president obama was in office, the cdc performed at among its highest level, including fighting off ebola and a number of other conditions. i don't know how long we're going to continue to have an argument, but it's got to be -- i mean i think it's got to be somebody else's fault whether it's china, democratic governors, whether it's the w.h.o., obama. as long as it's anybody's fault but the president, you know, i think that's the way this continues to go. and i think it's a lack of accountability that's challenging to us right now. >> andy, i'm looking at the headline of the op-ed you wrote
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for "the washington post." "let's throw the kitchen sink at covid-19 and get back to normal by october." go ahead. we can take it. give us your prescription if we want to do this right. >> okay. just to be clear, that was the editorial board that wrote that. i think they were using some of the things that i had said. and, brian, i think where i was going is if we had wanted to be in a place in october where we could do things like safely walk our kids to school and not worry about them, vote in person, get on airplanes, buy cars again, sign leases again, get the economy moving again, we could absolutely do that. we have all of the gifts required to fight the coronavirus because the coronavirus only spreads if we choose to breathe near one another. and if we don't, and because the incubation period is only a few weeks long, if we are willing to do what is being done now in new york and what has been done in italy and spain and germany and france, in asia, in new zealand, we can essentially crush the virus.
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there are a few things we'd have to do. we know what they are. they're not necessarily fun to do, but at the end of this, we could get out of this what i call 75% existence where we kind of have a dragging economy, 1,000 people dying every day, and we can't move on with our lives, a lot of psychological pain, versus a plan that says what if we just bit the bullet, threw the kitchen sink at this thing for four or five weeks, and where would we be? we'd be in a very different place. we'd be in a place of very low case count. we'd have more than enough tests to catch anything that came up, and i think we could move forward in that way. >> to those already unemployed in this economy, looking at another four to five weeks of stagnation, what do you say to them? >> look, we face two years of uncertainty or unknown amount of
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uncertainty. for people with anxiety and mental health issues, that's challenging. we don't see a lot of jobs coming back quickly, and the question is would we rather say, let's support the country. let's have the congress support the country through a four to five week period and then from there be in a position where we're as strong as ever? now, we have grandparents -- you and i probably do, many other people do -- that lived through a ten-year depression. they lived through a six-year world war. many of them emigrated to this country because they were -- had situations where their entire lives were under threat. and so what we're -- i think they would say to us, if for five weeks you could spend five weeks of sacrifice to save tens of thousands of lives and have your life back and have the country back, i think they'd say we should at least consider it. so i'm suggesting this ought to be part of the debate, part of the dialogue. it's not any one person's decision, but it's something that we as a country should be facing together. the rest of the world has gone
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this direction. we strangely have not had this on the table. >> will you ever get used to the president of the united states recommending, endorsing a medication? >> no. no. and it doesn't matter what president of the united states. it doesn't matter what president, what son-in-law, daughter-in-law. it doesn't matter quite frankly who it is. we have a -- we have a process for doing that. it's called the food and drug administration. it's not perfect, but they use all of the best scientists and outside research experts in the world to evaluate these trials and these drugs. it's not a simple thing. it takes professionals. all of us, i think, don't want to be listening to our favorite politicians tell us, i think this drug is good. i think this drug is bad because we don't know if they know how to interpret real-world evidence or data or science.
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i would rather we use evidence. and to the credit of the fda, although i don't think it was the right decision, they were -- they did what trump asked them to do. they created an emergency use order so that people could use hydroxychloroquine. they later then got evidence which showed that it was problematic and wasn't working effectively, and so they pulled it back. so no one can say that we're not trying, and if someone comes forward and presents evidence to the fda which shows that this works, that would be fantastic. but let's wait for that. >> andy slavitt, it's always a pleasure to have you on our broadcast. thank you very much for having us in and spending a few minutes with us tonight. coming up for us, arizona one of the states cautiously optimistic about a possible plateau in virus cases. we'll check back with one of the doctors on the front lines in that state when we come back.
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after weeks of dangerously, relentlessly high numbers, arizona's coronavirus outbreak is showing some signs of slowing. coronavirus hospitalizations have shown a gradual decline. sadly, over 100 souls were added to the overall death toll just today. now one of the hardest hit sun belt states could serve as a real-time experiment for the nation. as "the new york times" puts it,
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with prevention efforts on the rise, the vast majority of arizonans have been living with mask mandates and more shutdowns for about a month, about the time experts say it takes to start seeing the effect of new policies. and with us back again tonight, we're happy to welcome dr. murtaza akhter, clinical assistant professor at arizona university's college of medicine in phoenix where he also has expertise on how racial inequality and income inequality affect longevity and health these days. doc, does it feel better where you are? >> thanks for having me back, brian. you know, the volume in the e.r. seems to maybe be at a plateau. we're still seeing quite a few covid and non-covid patients, but we've gotten used to seeing that. maybe there's even a little bit of a plateau. hard to know whether that's because we're used to it or because there's an actual plateau, but this part still exists, which is that it's very
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hard to get a bed for an admitted patient. people are waiting for days in some cases. i'll come into a shift, admit a patient, go home, come back the next day, and the patient is still there, which is very atypical for the e.r. so there are long delays in care. that's for any kind of admit, covid or otherwise. if somebody has had a heart attack, even that patient will often wait in the e.r. for many, many hours. so even though the numbers may be plateauing, it is very hard to get a patient admitted. on top of that, we just today ran out of rapid tests, which means even in the e.r. when we do a test on a patient, we have to wait hours if not a day to get a result back. so you can imagine how much that's going to exacerbate delays for admissions. >> so i try to keep you out of politics, but the president stood there in the briefing room today and talked about all the material we are making and surging to the states. just some unbelievable numbers, a flurry of them, too many to tally up, testing and the like. he again promoted hydroxychloroquine.
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overnight last night, he promoted a video of this doctor saying that masks were ineffective. she herself was promoting hydroxychloroquine. your reaction to all of this because it is a counterpressure to what you do for a living. >> that's exactly right. i know you prefaced it with not making it political, but at the same time, some of this shouldn't be political. there is utter consensus on the effectiveness of masks, utter consensus. to find the one doctor who is some sort of a wackadoodle in texas to say that masks aren't effective, but this hydroxychloroquine treats 100% of my patients is absurd. i mean if i wanted to be famous by making absurd statements, i could do that. but the reason you have me on is because i, like my colleagues, am trying to speak the truth. there are certain things we have evidence for, and there are certain things that are debatable. there may be some benefit with hydroxychloroquine maybe if you
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do it in certain patients, but there are also side effects. we've known that for years. there's nothing new about that. but in terms of masks, there is very clear benefit. and what's crazy to me is the president changes his opinion on this every day, it seems like. i don't know. he's got, like, the mentality of a 4-year-old. again, i don't want to be too political, but at some point for months we've been saying masks are effective. and even more ironic is if we were effectively using masks and distancing, we could have almost ended the pandemic. you've had guests on your show say how other countries -- including andy slavitt saying this -- other countries have basically gone back to almost normal. we could be at almost back to normal if we had a clear message and people followed instructions. it's really ironic and really absurd. and as you can imagine when i'm on the front line trying to save lives, it's infuriating too because we really could be beating this. >> as we keep pointing out, we're not welcome in most of the world. we can't travel to most of the world, and it's for good reason right about now. dr. akhter, thank you very much for always being so generous with your time and staying up with us tonight.
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welcome back. of course florida remains a coronavirus epicenter with way more cases than most nations on the planet. and sadly florida is in the cone for what could be the next tropical storm or hurricane in the southern atlantic by the weekend. it comes just as another sun belt state, texas, recovers from hurricane hanna's damage over the weekend while also struggling to contain its own virus outbreak. coronavirus death in the state has now surpassed 6,000. today the governor urged texans to remain vigilant. >> just because a hurricane has
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swept through here does not mean that it has swept out covid-19. until there are medicines capable of treating it, there's only one thing that we can do to contain the spread of covid-19, and it is the best practices that include things like wearing these face masks, hand sanitizing, keeping your distance from others. >> for the record, it took the governor months to adopt that position. for more, we welcome to the broadcast judge barbara canales. she is top official in nueces county, texas, which includes corpus christi. she was among texas officials who met with the governor today to discuss state and federal support. judge, tell us about the confluence of these crises in your area. >> well, it makes for an incredible challenging job for any county judge for sure, but we believe that, you know, there's really not going to be any help with panic, so
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preparedness is the name of the game. and we have tried to be as proactive as possible and also as collaborative as possible. and that has served our community very well, brian. >> as we went off the air friday night, we talked about this possible landfall over the weekend, and we mentioned this virus thrives on places like shelters where people are on cots and floors. wherever two or more people are shoved together, that's where it spreads. do you think people were able to take enough precautions with a big storm approaching from offshore? >> so it was really fascinating because, of course, our community had lived through harvey in 2017, which was a devastating impact to a particular area in our county called port aransas. and this coastal city really bore the brunt, and the rest of us were somewhat protected by our island.
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having said that, we are always on hurricane watch here. so i thought it was very interesting. we had very few people in our shelters. i attribute that to the fact they were very fearful because of covid-19. they felt very much more protected in their own homes. but the real story was is that hanna became a hurricane within hours. before that, it was a tropical storm and seemed like there was only hours to prepare for its version of a tropical storm before it was a tropical depression. so this was a rapidly changing dynamic storm, and it really didn't give people the opportunity to think hurricane. they really thought there was going to be high winds and water, which on the gulf coast we're quite accustomed to. >> judge, when you see your governor brandishing a mask, when you hear him advocating things like mask-wearing, do you think to yourself, well, better late than never? >> i'm grateful for it right
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now. i can tell you that i have seen a complete change in our own community ever since he decided that, you know, it was going to be the right thing for texas. and so because he is our leader, it makes an impact on folks. and i think that we here in the coastal bend needed that leadership, and i'm grateful for it. and it has made an impact. there is no doubt in my mind that the order that i had initiated is bolstered and strengthened by the governor's action. >> president's coming to your state tomorrow. final question, what would you like to hear from him? >> well, right now there's no doubt that we need resources here in our community for both our hurricanes, the hurricane that's covid-19 and the one that just passed. we need federal resources, public assistance to help rebuild infrastructure and
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facilities on our gulf coast beaches. we also need the type of military medical personnel that is really keeping our hospitals alive right now. our icus are still packed. our death rate is still too high, and it is these types of teams working in collaboration with our state teams that are keeping our hospitals running. and we cannot be without them. >> judge, you get to serve in a great part of a great state. thank you very much for having us in tonight and for spending a few minutes with us. judge barbara canales in texas, greatly appreciate it. coming up for us, just five nights after the opening pitch, tonight there are questions now about how long this already shortened season can go on. baseball during a pandemic when we come back.
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you know, it's been less than a week since the first
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pitch was thrown, but already the future of the baseball season is in doubt. this is a dicey period for america's pastime with one team idle, removed from the schedule through this weekend, with all the problems that brings. major league baseball is taking sweeping action to try to save this already shortened season, but will it be enough? we get an update tonight from correspondent sam brock. >> reporter: tonight major league baseball announcing the miami marlins games are postponed through sunday after four more players tested positive for covid-19, taking the total to 15 since opening day, or roughly half the team's traveling roster. the marlins remain quarantined following more testing. some opposing managers are nervous. >> my level of concern went from about an 8 to a 12. >> reporter: last night on mlb network, commissioner rob manfred laying out what circumstances might cause a stoppage. >> i think that a team losing a
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number of players that rendered it completely non-competitive would be an issue that we would have to address. >> reporter: john barosi with mlb network says the marlins now have a few days to try and field a competitive roster. have any players on any teams tested positive other than the marlins in the last several days? >> as of friday to now, no other teams in baseball besides the marlins have had an on-field player register a positive test. >> reporter: the league said its positivity rate through last thursday is below 1% as it tries to keep an infectious disease from stopping sports. sam brock, nbc news, miami. when we continue, one of several notable moments, a tense one at that from today's hearing with the attorney general. they line up by the thousands.
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in this very room just recently, congresswoman jayapal -- do you agree with ms. jayapal that there was no takeover? >> jayapal. if you're going to say my name, please say it right. it's jayapal. >> last thing before we go here tonight, congresswoman jayapal had a busy day at today's hearing. first there was the matter of explaining to her colleague and fellow committee member how to pronounce her name. then came her turn to interrogate the attorney general
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about specifically the discrepancy, about why he sends the feds in for some protests but not the time those pro-trump protesters with long guns took over the michigan statehouse and threatened the governor. >> june 1st i was worried about the district of columbia, which is federal. >> you seem to be engaging in protests in certain parts of the country. you're very aware of those. but when protesters with guns and swastikas and -- >> i am aware of protesters -- >> excuse me, mr. barr. this is my time, and i control it. the point i'm trying to make here, mr. barr, that i think is very important for the country to understand is that there is a real discrepancy in how you react as the attorney general, the top cop in this country. when white men with swastikas storm a government building with guns, there is no need for the president to, quote, activate you because they're getting the president's personal agenda done. but when black people and people of color protest police brutality, systemic racism, and
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the president's very own lack of response to those critical issues, then you forcibly remove them with armed federal officers, pepper bombs, because they are considered terrorists by the president. you take an aggressive approach to black lives matter protests but not to right-wing extremists threatening to lynch a governor if it's for the president's benefit. did i get it right, mr. barr? >> i have responsibility for the federal government, and the white house is the seat of the executive branch. >> mr. barr, let me just make it clear you are supposed -- >> michigan authorities can handle -- >> -- to represent the people of the united states of america, not violate people's first amendment rights. you are supposed to uphold democracy and secure equal justice under the law, not violently dismantle certain protesters based on the president's personal agenda. >> the gentle lady's time has expired. >> it went about like that. congresswoman jayapal, democrat of washington state, to take us
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off the air tonight. that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. thank you so much for being here with us. on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. as the u.s. hits 150,000 deaths from 1 coronavirus, and more states break records for new infections, the president continues to make false claims about the virus while asking why dr. fauci has better ratings. also, attorney general bill barr testifies in his first hearing before house democrats and gets a grilling over the federal response in portland, his intervention in the roger stone case and whether the president would try to cling to power if the election is, in fact,io contested. former vice president joe biden says he will announce his choice for vice president next week. and this photo of his notes yesterday w


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