good afternoon, everyone ayeman mohyeldin here in new york multiple stories breaking this hour that we're following you, just moments ago, the city of louisville just announced a $12 million settlement with the family of breonna taylor for her killing at the hands of police, that includes significant police reforms, we'll have a lot more on that straight ahead. we're also seven weeks from election day, and two weeks from the first presidential debate in cleveland, this afternoon president trump using the opt ix of his office and a diplomatic agreement to shore-up his image as a statesman, he heads for a

town hall in battle ground pennsylvania, we're keeping an eye on that for you as well. joe biden is if florida where a new poll shows president trump trailing in a state that he stlutly must win, plus two more polls in other crucial states that president tied or at least trailing in them and one will come to the president's law and order strategy kamala harris is in fresno today to meet with emergency service personnel working to contain those historically large wildfires. live reports with the very latest as hurricane sally slowly makes its way to land. plus, "the new york times" is reporting that the justice department has now opened an investigation into yet another trump former national security adviser, this time it's john bolton all of that in just a moment but first the race for the white house at this hour

monmouth university is showing joe biden leading president trump in florida 50% to 45%. it's in a race that will certainly determine who gets a whopping 29 electoral votes from a state where in the last decade, seven statewide elections including the last two presidential elections were decided by less than 1.2 percentage points. biden ahead with latino voters, 58% to 32% lot of important data coming out today. including this nbc news marrist florida poll out last week, showing biden losing to trump with latino voters, now some mixed messaging coming out of florida, that has biden overall up over trump, what are you hearing? >> well, it's always tricky with florida as you highlighted

it's always within less than a 1% in a presidential, at least in recent memory, so what i'm really curious about mike bloomberg's efforts to spend $100 million effort, that comes every media market and then some, and the thing about mike bloomberg, his success is based on microtargeting, that's how he won election in 2001 in new york and i think that's what that effort's about i think there's enough volatility there for that to almost go either way, but probably lean for biden. >> let me play for you this ad put out by the trump campaign. in spanish, it came out in early august watch. >> i'm going to be good to progressive president in america history.

>> the most progressive president in america's history >> okay, you don't have to speak spanish to understand what the message was behind that, that was joe biden's promise to be a progressive president compared to cuba's fidel castro using the word progressive there, is that an effective strategy >> it is because progressive, they're linking with socialist and socialist does have a strong meaning for certain people of the latino community, especially cubans and venezuelans who are residing in florida, so that message is effective we have to see if biden can or bloomberg on his behest fight that message back a little bit, there's room for it, but that's a pretty damning message. >> let me get your thoughts on another significant poll two more just out this afternoon, a cnn poll showing north carolina

believe it or not is three-point race, biden at 49% trump at 46% another one showing biden leading by ten points among likely voters in the state of wisconsin, 52% to 42%. this follows both candidates going to wisconsin earlier in the month, what do those two states tell you? >> well, north carolina, i'm still iffy if that's a really biden state. but wisconsin's really interesting, because wisconsin's where president trump tried to use this horrible law and order message, you know, pointing to riots and such, it doesn't work. what he doesn't realize, people want public safety, they want someone who's going to quell the fire not add fuel to it. so that's a direct result i believe of the messaging -- the bad messaging of the president in wisconsin. >> okay, to that point, what's the message then that you think

the biden campaign should be countering if the law and order message that the president tried to invoke in wisconsin doesn't seem to be working, what is the successful message for the biden campaign to pick up and run with >> i think right now, it's covid. it's the lack of the covid response by donald trump the horrible response, if you will the utter mismanagement of how he handled this pandemic and that will resonate, especially in a state like wisconsin, because it does hit a lot of targets it hits the economy, it hits education, and it shows that donald trump in his own words does not care about the people of this country, he puts himself before them every single time, because why else would he not be level with us and say this was a dangerous pandemic coming to our shores >> all right, always a pleasure. thanks very much. new this afternoon, "the new york times" is reporting that

the justice department has now opened a criminal investigation into former national security adviser john bolton and whether bolton unlawfully disclosed classified information in his memoir citing three people familiar with the matter, the times report the doj opened the case after the department failed to stop the book. the author of a case for the american people, his time as special counsel to the house judiciary committee during the trump's impeachment proceedings. norm, good to have you with us talk about the political retaliation aspects in just a moment, but first, let me get your thoughts on whether john bolton might have committed a crime with your book, what's your opinion on that you certainly have the expertise for that. >> thank you for having me, ayman. i do think that notwithstanding

the aspect of retaliation, there's some basis here when you look at the kind of information in this book, you know foreign intelligence services should not be able to understand the president's decisionmaking processes about the most sensitive matters of national security by clicking "buy now" on amazon, so i do think there's some exposure based on the nature of the information and based on the fact that ambassador bolton cut short the white house review process, he did this in a terribly foolish way, there were better way to do it he created criminal exposure for himself. a long way to go before there's an indictment, a trial. >> the political aspect, the president said in the past he thinks john bolton should be jailed over his book, is there

any way to look at this currently, given this president, this administration, what they've said in the past and how they've gone after certain political opponents, those who have been critical of the president other than political retaliation? >> well, there's no question that there's an aspect of retaliation to it and it's not just the president, it's not just the white house, this cancer of politicalization has crept into the justice department, used to be the last citadel where you could hope with some insulation in the obama white house, we had rules, rules that are now flouted by the trump administration on context, either presidential contacts with doj, no, we know there's an aspect of retaliation here, but what makes this such a complicated case, when you strip away the retaliation, there's

some genuine exposure that bolton faces because he didn't wait for the classification process to finish, he engaged in self-help before his book had been cleared, so it's a poisonous cocktail of genuine issues and retaliation >> all right, ambassador norm eisen, thank you very much appreciate your time as always. pivoting away politics for the moment, following breaking news along the gulf coast, hurricane sally now a category 1 storm is pounding the region with heavy rain and is expected to make landfall early tomorrow morning. the national hurricane center says that sally is expected to produce life-threatening storm surge, on high alert at this hour joining me now from gulf shores, alabama, is chris jansing, good to talk to you you're already seeing some rain, i should note, and wind from sally there in alabama, tell us

about how the people there are preparing and does it seem as though people are staying in the area to ride out the storm or are they evacuating? >> reporter: yeah, it seems like they're having trouble getting a handle on exactly how many people are evacuating, in a normal hurricane situation, we would have folks going to shelters, they would have people checking and seeing where people are, but we're in a time of coronavirus, so all bets are off, at a local shelter, less than a few dozen people up near mobile, but here, a shelter essentially of last resort, people who haven't already evacuated need to get out bush but they have been on tv relentlessly throughout the morning telling people the low-lying areas, areas that tend to flood, to get out

this could be life-threatening and the reason is, that this storm is moving so slowly, two miles per hour, i don't know if you can hear it in the background, those are the first sirens that we've heard that are going down the local street, it's going to drop as much as 30 inches of rain and there could be a storm surge up to 7 feet. i walked out here, on to the beach itself, because we had seen a few people coming out with their dogs, there was a public safety officer, i'm not sure if it was a police officer coming and getting people and telling them, this beach is closed, it's been closed but looking down both ways there are a number of high-rise condo buildings here, i haven't seen anybody else who has been on this beach and for good reason because the winds really have been picking up, the rain is coming down a lot harder and there really is a concern that folks who want to stay or folks

who are -- everyone who's covered the storm, people come out here, they want to take pictures on the beach, they want to say they were on the beach when this was going on, they can create potentially life-threatening situations not just for themselves but for the emergency crews and of course, every single member of emergency crews in this region are on high alert, they're on duty 24/7, but there already at least half a dozen roads, i just spoke to people in the offices, at least half a dozen roads at least here in this town that have already been flooded and considered impassable what they're telling folks is we have places where we can't even get our emergency vehicles through, if you have a problem call us, we need to get you out now, because we're just on the front end of this, it's going to be increasing throughout the night and it's going to be 4:00,

5:00 in the morning before we really feel the full impact of this with these winds really whipping up, ayman, this is going to be a very, very dangerous storm >> yeah, we can see the wind blowing up against the trees chris, let me get your thoughts really quickly, obviously this is happening against the backdrop of a pandemic, one of the things that happens in a situation like this, shelters are set up to accommodate people who may not be able to get out, do you have a sense whether or not those shelters are in fact being set up, are they going to try and keep that kind of social distance operationally speaking, what are the challenges facing officials there against the backdrop of a pandemic in. >> i just had that conversation with an official here who said, yes, they have all the precautions set up for the coronavirus. obviously, social distancing they're set up so that they have the hand sanitizer, the masks,

but they have asked people don't put yourself in a situation if you can possibly avoid it, given the coronavirus, to have to go into a shelter, they only have enough room through the region between 250 and 300 people, which is far less than they would normally have in this situation. now, i should also say, this is a very big tourist area, the weather can be beautiful, this is not a time of year -- it's not heavily touristy their concern about local residents, they have the ability, they have far fewer shelters, they do exist, but again the one here in this county, in a county facility, is essentially a shelter of last resort, a true emergency shelter, if you thought you were going to ride it out, now you hear how sploe moving this is, the storm surge that's going to

come in and decide, there's a place that you could go and they want you to go there and all the precautions are being taken but they've been asking people all along, please, given the fact that we're in the middle of a pandemic, don't complicate it by not getting out as soon as you can >> hopefully, they'll heed those warnings chris, stay safe, by friend. thank you. history was made at the white house today with the leaders of israel as well as the foreign ministers of bahrain an the uae, can there be peace in the middle east without the palestinians included? you're watching many, is, nbc. >> tech: at safelite, we're here for you

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hours before president trump touted a diplomatic deal in the middle east, casually suggested that he might be on iran's hit list he tweeted last night about alleged plot that iran is seeking to assassination a u.s. diplomat watch what the president said this morning on fox. >> they'll pay a thousand times if they do anything to anybody and i might be in that category, but they'll be in that category, too, and we're all set and if they do anything to anybody, they'll be hit a thousand times harder than they

hit us >> iran has publicly denied those allegations. secretary of state pompeo has declined to comment on the intelligence but told the counsel, quote, they didn't need an action by the united states to conduct assassination campaigns around the world what more can you tell us about this ongoing dispute with iran >> ayman, now five years since the obama administration signed that nuclear agreement with iran i've been speaking to officials across the region, still very supportive of the trumped a main administration's approach, maximum pressure approach, israel, saudi arabia are supportive, but others are not but a foreign minister said considering the withdrew from

that deal is stateside, those involved if negotiating the deal under the obama administration the real failure it habit changed iran's behavior, really interesting, vice president biden jumping into this over the last couple of days with an op-ed over the week, talking about this being a reckless decision to withdraw. the u.s. secretary of state responding to that criticism in an interview on fox news >> we've taken a serious spite out of the islamic -- of iran's regime and power we'll continue to do that. >> that's pompeo touting his administration's success ayman, over the last few weeks, significant developments in the u.s./iran relationship, mid-august, the u.s. failing to win support at the security council, they wanted to extend that indefinitely, other nations said no.

august 21st, another u.n. security council rejected u.s. attempts to reimpose sanctions on iran. other countries saying to the u.s., you can't do that. you've withdrawn from this deal. just a few days ago the september 4, the iaea with a report out talking about the fact that iran stock pile of low enriched uranium, ten times higher under the terms of the nuclear deal >> thanks as always. a historic day in washington and the middle east. the president trump presiding over a peace deal more accurately a normalization between israel and two gulf arab counties, the president along israel prime minister and the foreign ministers of the uae and bahrain marking a pivotal moment for foreign diplomacy for these

countries as they agree to recognize israel for the first time ambassador, thank you so much for joining us i'll briefly splay for you what the trump's son-in-law. >> you'll see the beginning of the end israel arab can conflict going on for a long time. >> as someone spent a lot of time in the middle east, is he right? is that this simple? the countries signing it and the countries that have been many con flight with one another including the palestinians and israelis are technically not at peace. >> i'm really glad you framed the question that way, ayman, because it's the right way to ask the question what happened today is very important. these countries are very important partners and friends

for our country and they undoubtedly took a very important step guard today, one that i know will be welcomed by many israelis who have a deep hunger to be accepted in the region but the real fact is that these countries have been at war with israel the core of the problem is the problem between israel and the palestinians, that didn't move forward today, i think you'll find that people in the region feel that it might have taken a step back >> to that point, both uae and bahrain say they will support the two-state solution, in past agreements, egypt and jordan, although promising to try and advance freedom and statehood for the palestinians have failed to do, this is not likely to be any different on that front, is it >> well, in their agreements, egypt and jordan maintained a lot of leverage as neighbors and

the borders that have daily interactions with israel and with israelis, by signing this agreement before the palestinian question and situation got resolved the uae and bahrain have put the cart before the horse, in a two-state solution, but it may very well be, we don't know what has been agreed to, it may be that economic ties grow by leaps and bounds, a beautiful relation flour ishes and then there's leverage if they choose to use it, but we haven't seen any other agreements work out quite that way yet. >> you worked and lived in the region, in israel and uae and qatar, you're an expert on what's happening there, today motivated by the threat iran poses to the region and what was triggered by the arab spring in

terms of potential threats to the sunni arab monarchies in the region. >> a lot has been made of that point. you're right, i started my career working at the signing of the oslo accords in 1993 and lived and worked in egypt and jordan and gaza and tel aviv and qatar and the uae. so you're right. i really -- iran is obviously the catalyst for the way relationships have shifted in the region over recent years, but the event today felt very much to me like a campaign event. at least for the president certainly for these countries, the effects and the consequences, positive and negative, will go far beyond our election in november but if you listen to the president in oval office he kept calling this is a transa action,

so, it was hard for me to watch this as a person who's lived and breathed in the region as something that donald trump was viewing as giopolitical strategy. >> thank you so much for your expertise. pleasure to have you. >> thanks for having me. the city of louisville reaches a settlement with the family of breonna taylor killed by police six months ago in her own home we'll have the details of that after the break. plus, we'll check in with the national hurricane center tracking not only hurricane sally, but four other storms also brewing in the atlantic you're watching msnbc. saturdays happen.

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let's get to very latest facts on the coronavirus pandemic the rate at which people are dieing from covid-19 in the united states has slowed down slightly as the death toll nears the 200,000 mark now this comes as a projection for the university of washington estimates that 415,000 people in the united states alone will die from the virus by january 1st. the chief executive of the world's largest vaccine manufactur manufacturer, is warning that there won't be enough vaccines for global vaccination until 2024 until the earliest and bill gates say he doesn't believe any of the potential coronavirus vaccines being develop will seek approval by the united states by the end of october

gates said if there was vaccine maker that has a chance of seeking eua license soon it would be pfizer. turning now to our breaking news, hurricane sally is taking aim at the gulf coast and moving a dangerously slow pace, dumping heavy rainfall along the southeastern part of the united states, historic flooding is possible with what the national hurricane center calls extreme life-threatening flash flooding. joining me now is the director of the national hurricane center, ken graham thank you so much for joining us what's the latest on hurricane sally's track? >> yeah, the latest information, we're getting all the latest information from the aircraft, 80 miles per hour. you start looking at the, slowly you move, the dangerous rainfall and to push those tides in, slow

is not a good in, slow system, just 2 miles an hour. >> one of the things that we've been tracking that there are actually five storms brewing in the atlantic, including tropical storm teddy which is expected to become a hurricane, how concerning is it to you guys down there that all of these storms are happening at the same time >> interesting yesterday, we were writing five advisories, we haven't done that since september 1971 every desk is filled we're able to provide that information to keep everyone safe out there sally, that slow movement, the storm surge is scary and the rainfall is scary. >> how much are you expecting the folks down there to see. >> with the slow movement, really so much moisture coming out of the gulf of mexico, as a

resu result, on the coastline, 25 inches of rainfall, not just on the coast but as we travel inland as well, 6 to 10 inches of rain for portions of central alabama and even georgia and western and southern georgia thank you. breaking news in the briana taylor case, just this afternoon, the city of louisville has settled a wrongful death lawsuit filed by taylor's family six months after he was killed by police inside her own home the settlement includes $12 million to taylor's estate blayne lax ander joins us, tell us about that agreement and what it means for the officers and the calls for their arrests? >> reporter: so, ayman, let's start with that settlement, of course that's a settlement to

the civil lawsuit, completely separate from whether there will be criminal charges. two components for that, financial, $12 million going to the family of breonna taylor and during that conference, what we heard from the attorney ben crump he believes that's the largest lawsuit ever paid out, certainly a notable amount, going to breonna taylor's family the other part is, a list of police reforms that are now going to be implemented by the louisville police department, transparency and accountability. on that front there are going to be some reforms around search warrants, now those have to be signed off by a commanding officer and there are going to be changes to the way officers are investigated internally. those are some of the changes we're seeing along with a number of other changes, of course

they're calling this a major step, they say that this is major step but just a first step here's attorney ben crump. >> this sets a precedent for other black women that their lives won't be marginalized, they'll be valued. these no-knock warrants are disproportionately executed against black people in america. >> so ayman you heard there from attorney ben crump talking about that settlement that came out today. one thing that we heard repeatedly through this news conference, is that this is just a first step, they say their real focus, their true focus is seeing criminal charges for those officer who were involved in her death as far as where that stands right now, it's if hands of

state's attorney general, he's presenting evidence to a grand jury, sources tell nbc news, they're focusing on that specifically and her mother said, yes, this is good, but breonna taylor deserves those charges. >> thank you as always. kamala harris is in her hometown state of california wildfires fuelled in part by climate change a major focus of the biden/harris ticket. you're watching msnbc. from prom dresses...

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ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination. senator kamala harris is her home state of california today which has been decimated wildfires, she's meeting with local officials in fresno, including governor gavin newsom for an assessment of the damage. so far 4 million acres have been burned across the west and at least 36 people have been killed as a result. joining me now from california

is msnbc political reporter vaughn hillyard. what more can you tell us about senator harris' event today in fresno. >> reporter: the creek fire already the sixth largest wildfire in california history, senator harris is currently meeting as you can see with governor newsom just about 20 minutes down the road from here, this wildfire here not even the largest one in california right now is at the point where more than 300 square miles have already burned the senator here today, just one day after president trump stopped into sacramento to meet with local and federal officials. this is still senator harris' home state, she grew up and spent most of her adult life just 200 miles north of her, for the senator, this is a moment for her to bring the west into this picture here to have this conversation, because what

you're seeing here right now are ten active wild pires. >> but president trump down played the science the impact climate change has had on the wildfires. i want to play for you and our viewers. >> we want to work with you to really recognize the changing climate and what it means to our forest and actually work together with that science, that science is going to be key, because if we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand about vegetation management we're not going to succeed. >> okay, it's not going to start getting cooler. >> i wish science agree with you. >> i don't think science knows, actually >> quite a remarkable statement there from the president, but vaughn, contrast that for us with what senator harris has been saying about the impact climate change has had on the fires out west, draw that contrast and distinction for our viewers.

>> reporter: yeah, ayman, the democratic party put climate change front and center throughout the yearlong primary process, but this issue the president's response yesterday, and now the reality that the west is seeing these wildfires unlike american history has ever seen before has put it in the middle, take a listen to kamala harris last ight >> our agenda is about acknowledging the science and we can't afford to deny it any longer we're going through a climate crisis and you can see that in the wildfires that are getting worse and worse in california each year, you can look at is the storms that have ravaged the gulf coast, we're seeing extreme weather conditions and it's attributable to in large part human behaviors that we can adapt to this moment. >> we should expect senator

harris and joe biden to compare the trump administration to the obama administration and the trump administration moving to take the united states out of the paris climate agreement, to roll back regulations under the clean powers act as well as mercury regulations and lower vehicle fuel economy standards, i think this is an issue that the democrats are eager to take the trump administration on. ayman. >> all right, vaughn, live for us in california, thank you. more chaos clouds the 2020 election, this time in pennsylvania, where counties are supposed to be sending out ballots to voters, but actually can't less than eight weeks until election day we'll tell you about that delay next then trump versus the medical experts. the dangerous politicalization of the coronavirus and his promise of a vaccine before tha the markets before trading wraps

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pennsylvania later today election officials in the state are not sending out mail-in ballots this week as they had previously hoped for after a rash of lawsuits and a legal hiccup presented the finalization of the ballots. this comes as today a federal judge struck down governor tom wolf's coronavirus pandemic restrictions calling them unconstitutional joining me is msnbc's maura barrett from philadelphia where president trump will be this evening for a town hall event. good to have you with us let's talk about these mail-in ballots. what's going on there in pennsylvania why haven't they been finalized yet, and do we know when they will be? >> ayman, the biggest holdup is because the ballot, the list of names that will be on the ballot hasn't been certified yet. the democratic party is suing the green party for the presence of the green party's candidates on the ballot and basically, we don't have the official list of names. the officials can't start printing the ballots to send

them out to voters people may wonder if a green party ballot has it in the greater scheme of things in 2016, the margin between trump and clinton was only 44,000 votes and 49,000 pennsylvanians actually voted for joe stein, the green party candidate. we're waiting on that decision the secretary of state said that the lawsuit should be decided at some point this week but even so, that's the best case scenario county election officials say once that is set into place it's going to take them another two weeks to send out those ballots. it's important to note legally here in pennsylvania, they don't have to start -- the latest they can send out the ballots is two weeks before the election which, of course, prompts a lot of concern when we have been talking about all the issues that could arise in mail-in voting, especially how tight voting could be. >> two weeks in a regular election season may sound like a comfortable window two weeks in the middle of a pandemic with everything

happening at the post office, that sounds like trouble today president trump claimed a coronavirus vaccine could be ready soon despite health experts repeatedly pushing back on a rushed timeline the president's comments coming amid increased concerns about how it's being politicized during the 20 twernths leks. >> i'm not going it for political reasons. i want a vaccine fast. we'll have a vaccine in a matter of weeks it could be four weeks it could be eight weeks. but we're going to have it >> quite the window there. 4 to 8 weeks joining me is laurie garrett, a pulitzer prize-winning journalist, and author of "the coming plague and "betrayal of trust. she's also an msnbc science contributor. as i noted there, four weeks, eight weeks. that's quite the window. quite a timeline hard to ignore the president's timeline when we're now seven weeks away from the election give us the perspective from the

scientific community and the health community what are they saying about this timeline >> well, the nine top vaccinemakers from the united states and europe have all mutual signed an agreement saying we won't push our vaccines out the door until we really have done the safety trials and we've proven that they work. that's number one. number two, the lead candidate everybody was excited about from astrazeneca, a british-based product, has now caused a very severe side effect in one participant, a 22-year-old woman. an inflammation of her spinal cord and there are reports now of multiple individuals who suffered severe headaches. the concern is that this may be all of one, a kind of neurological response to the vaccine. if that were the case, then this one would be off the table, certainly in the united states

or should be at any rate, according to most scientific experts. so we're all awaiting more information, but as is number three, a big problem, consistently, denounced by many scientists, a lot of the drug companies are basically giving us information by press release. it's been vetted by their lawyers and their communications departments. it's not scientific publication. >> right >> so many details that we need to know are missing. so it's very hard to judge what's really going on with any of these products. finally, the administration some time ago sent out word from the cdc to all the governors of the nation saying be ready to vaccinate by no later than november 1st submit your vaccination plan, your scheme for how you're going to do it in collaboration with our private sector partners no later than october 1st to atlanta. well, november 1st, to do mass

vaccination in america, look, one of the leading contender vaccines from moderna must be stored at minus 70 degrees centigrade there's hardly a single health department in the nation that has portable freezers that hold the exact temperature of minus 70 c if you start going down the list of the other aspects of the complications here, it gets really, really serious >> hard to imagine it being done let me get your thoughts, and we're running out of time, but i wanted to get your thoughts about the general public's trust about a vaccine. 39% of adults say that they would get a government-approved vaccine for covid-19 that's actually down five points in a month the majority of americans don't trust the president's comments when it comes to a vaccine as trust erodes in this country, what do you see as being the big picture and concern about a vaccine from the public's perspective. >> i'm sorry to see that the

whole question of whether or not a vaccine is safe and whether or not individuals will take it has been at least as deeply politicized as whether or not people wear masks, whether or not people obey social distancing regulations and requests whether or not people think it's safe to put their kids in school everything across the board about the fight against coronavirus has been thoroughly politicized. and you see that faith in the cdc is eroding faith in the fda is eroding, and certainly faith in the white house is eroding so americans are making their choices based on which political party they belong to >> one more thing the american public is losing confidence in laurie garrett, as always, thank you for joining us that wraps up this hour for me i'll see you right back here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts after this quick break

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hi there, everyone it's 4:00 in the east with 49 days to go before voters go to the polls. guess who is closing in on donald trump and threatening him with smoking gun evidence that he knew the coronavirus pandemic was a deadly scourge and yet lied about it to the american people if you guessed donald trump, then you guessed correctly here he is in a newly released portion of a taped interview with bob woodward admitting that the coronavirus was a deadly plague that could rip you apart. >> this thing say killer if it gets you if you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance. >> yes, yes, exactly >> this rips you apart >> this is a scourge and -- >> it is the plague. >> it's a plague that's what donald trump acknowledged and said out loud in an on-the-ord interview on the record on april 13th