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fact now they know we're doing well. we've got 47% of the vote last -- his endorsement is monumental. it's going to be a good day november 3rd. i believe so. keep your eyes on mississippi. >> i am going to keep my eyes on mississippi because on election night in our assignments here on msnbc i've been given the jurisdiction to cover the senate races, so i'm going to be watching very closely what's happening for you on election night. mike espy, thank you once again for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you very much. thank you very much. mike espy get tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. well, good evening once again. day 1,373 of the trump administration meaning 11 days are left until election day. the final stage of this race is unfolding across our country as
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is an uncontrolled pandemic. the numbers are trending in a very disturbing direction. the latest data from the covid tracking project shows more than 83,000 new cases diagnosed just today. that's an all-time high even for us, even more than the record set during the summer surge across the american sunbelt. and this headline from "the new york times" reads the number of people hospitalized with the coronavirus in the u.s. up by 40% in the past month. more than 8.5 million americans have a confirmed case of this. over 225,000 souls lost. yet just hours after coming under such heavy fire for his response to the pandemic, donald trump was back at it. packed rallies on the road. he held back-to-back florida events, pensacola and at the villages, the largest retirement community in our country. yet his messaging on the virus sounded nothing like much of what the nation now faces. >> we're rounding the turn.
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with or without the vaccine -- we have the vaccines they're going to be great. but with or without them, we're rounding the turn. normal life, that's all we want, fully resuming. we want noermal life to fully resume, and that's happening. we understand the disease. i understand it better than you. i had it. joe biden's plan will crush america. my plan will crush the virus. >> the seniors that trump spoke to earlier this afternoon, that event at the villages were key to his victory four years ago, but the polls show their support is anything but solid, anything but certain now. today the president seemed to suggest the current reporting on the virus was just an effort to scare older americans into backing biden. >> all biden and his handlers in the media want to talk about today is covid, covid, covid. on november 4th you won't hear anything about it because we are rounding a turn. you won't hear it.
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but they want to scare you to try to make you vote for biden. >> for his part, the former vice president used the day to lay out antually rather detailed plan to contain the pandemic in the united states. >> if this is a success, what's a failure look like? we're more than 8 months into this crisis and the president still doesn't have a plan. i'll reach out to every governor in every state, red and blue as well as mayors and local officials during transition to find out what support they need. i'll go to every governor and urge the mandate mask wearing in those states. and if they refuse i'll go to county executives and get mandates in place nationwide. i'll not going to shutdown the economy. i'm not going to shutdown the country. i'm going to shutdown the virus. once we have a safe and
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effective vaccine it has to be free to everyone. whether or not you're insured. yes, mr. president, i'll listen to the scientists. and i'll empower them. >> mask mandates are a big feature of the biden plan and for good reason. a new study from a medical journal says universal mask wearing could save 133,000 american lives by just the end of february. same study shows and it warns that without masks the virus could kill over half a million of us by then largely while we watch. so far governors in 17 states have not made masks mandatory in any form. this morning the president gathered reporters for an event in the oval office to announce improved relations between israel and sudan. again, packed with people shoulder to shoulder. and during the event trump mocked a reporter for wearing a
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mask while on the phone with netanyahu of israel minutes after defending his response to the pandemic? >> do you standby your statement you take responsibility for the pandemic that you said last night, sir? >> i always take responsibility, and i've done a great job and the people around me have done a great job. this is jeff mason. he's got a mask on. i think it's the largest mask -- i don't know if you can hear him. >> today we learned more about just how far the white house coronavirus task force has been side lined. dr. anthony fauci told our colleague chuck todd the task force meetings have indeed become less frequent. >> the doctors, myself and dr. birx and dr. redfield and dr. han and others, we used to meet in person but now virtually at least once a week. but an official task force meeting, chuck, in the last several weeks has been about one per week. >> when was the last time you had the president at one of these task force meetings? >> at a task force meeting,
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there was several months ago. i definitely don't have his ear as much as scott atlas right now. >> that doctor atlas he's talking about is the california radiologist that trump saw on fox news. he's been widely reported to be a divisive force on what remains of the task force. he's publicly flirted with the notion of herd immunity which would likely kill millions of americans. and tonight a curious development within the trump friendly confines of fox news. lou daubs who is publicly revered by this president launched an attack on lindsey graham who's been fighting for his political life in south carolina. dobs blasted graham for not doing enough to look into trump's political opponents. >> i don't know why anyone within the state of south carolina would ever vote for lindsey graham. it's just outrageous. this is the guy who said stay
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tuned. he said he was going to get to the bottom of obama-gate with the judiciary committee which has been a year and a half -- actually longer of -- of absolute inert response. he's debetrayed the american people and his oath of office. he's done absolutely nothing to investigate obama-gate except to tell everyone stay tuned. time and time again, stay tuned. senator graham needs to be tuned out in south carolina. >> what is happening there? we'll talk about it in a bit. but let's bring in our big three to start our discussion on a friday night. susan page, veteran journalist, best selling author, usa today washington bureau chief. peter baker, chief correspondent for "the new york times," and also coauthor along with his wife susan glasser of the new
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book, the man who ran washington. and dr. kavita patel is back with us as well, senior aide during the obama administration, and a nonsenior fellow at brookings. and i'd like to begin with you. it's scary looking at the stats and knowing we are heading into winter. why do you think there's been such a rapid increase in cases, and again these two packed rallies in florida today notwithstanding? >> brian, you're identifying one of the main causes we still are wrestling without any sort of even usage of masks. estimates up to about half the country still does not have kind of a regular pattern of using masks when we know the science tells us as you pointed out it cannot only reduce deaths but transmission. the second largest factor driving these increases in cases is the fact it is getting colder
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around parts of the country, and you are seeing people especially younger people kind of migrating indoors, into congregant setting as we call them, bars, restaurants. and that is also a huge driver. and i think third is the fact the health system is overwhelmed. we're starting to see as you mentioned kind of an uptick in hospitalizations. texas led the way in this last week with the largest increase in hospitalizations. hospitals in utah have actually had to deny trauma cases because they're so full of both covid cases, brian, and then all the routine medical issues that have escalated during this pandemic. so those three things together and the onslaught of the cold and flu season, which we're still kind of ready to brace but have started it officially, that is leading to 80,000 cases which is deeply troubling across the country. >> peter baker, to what dr. patel just said, this thing is
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rocketing through the northern plains, parts of the northwest. has the president decided he is not going to get penalized for his mismanagement of a pandemic? he can say rounding the corner and does several times a day all he wants. it's not going to make it so. >> well, that's right, brian. look, you know, he has experienced through 4 years the political reality that he can bend events to his -- his liking in a lot of ways. he's said over and over again it's the greatest economy even though indicators show it's good but not the greatest economy ever. and yet people tend to believe him. he says again and again the russia thing is a hoax, people forget robert mueller identified ten instances where he might have broken the law. a lot of people believe him. the problem with a disease is it doesn't bend to rhetoric. it doesn't bend to political
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repetition. you can say all you like we're rounding the curve toward home and the end is in sight, but if 80,000 people are getting sick every day, if a new 9/11 happens every three or four days in terms of deaths, that doesn't sell to the people who are experiencing it in their own lives. i think the polls show again and again the people in america have not approved the way he's handled the virus no matter how many ways he's tried to say he's been successful at it. >> susan, i want to read you a bit that happens to be in peter's paper about an unintended consequence. iowa's governor is not on the ballot next month, but her defiant attitude toward the advice of health experts on how to fight the coronavirus outbreak as her state sees a grim tide of new cases and deaths may be dragging down fellow republicans who are running including mr. trump and senator joni ernst.
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of course she had her own trouble with the price of soybeans at the last debate. but, susan, is this indeed part of the unintended political cost of this virus and its handling? >> yes, i think we may be heading toward a day of reckoning with the election in 11 days that will affect not only president trump but candidates down the ballots. it's almost guaranteed that republicans are going to lose seats in the house and lose seats in the senate. it is entirely possible to lose control of the u.s. senate. we see the affect down the ballot in state legislative races because as peter was saying, people see the impact of this virus in their own lives, in their own communities. and if you ask me what was the most important -- when we look back, what was the most important thing that happened in the last two weeks of the campaign, i think it might be today we passed this record number of new cases and we're heading into a season where we think it's only going to get
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worse. >> doctor, it can be said clinically and without political judgment that there was one virus containment plan on the stage of that debate last night. and it was former vice president biden's. as a physician and a policy person listening did you find any holes in it? >> no, i didn't. candidly, brian, actually he ticked off everything i was looking for. talked about masks, talked about working with local officials. that's been critical in any strategy to fight the pandemic. and then i think perhaps the most important point that he made was really on, you know, the pointed question, excellent moderating by kristen welker about the vaccine. first of all, the president was entirely unrealistic once again in promising a vaccine in, quote, weeks. and making it sound like every american would get one. and i think that the vice president appropriately said,
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like, we want the science to lead. i will trust the scientists, but that we also need to work on this kind of very massive logistic effort to get out a vaccine. and that's really in a nutshell, brian, all the things public health officials have been saying for months. but we haven't really seen and heard that in clear messaging. i think for the first time we saw that you can have a president that can actually stand on a stage and it wasn't trump that gives you that clear signal about how to deal with this virus. >> peter baker, there's noel gpt way to say this, but more people had rudy and borat on their 2020 bingo cards than lou dobbs going after lindsey graham tonight. engage if you must in rampant political speculation. what do you think is going on there? >> well, look, you know, president trump has counted on the idea there would be some last minute, you know, jim
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comey-like intervention in this election that would reproduce the kind of inside stray he captured last time. he was behind hillary clinton and really in the last few days the announcement jim comey had reopened the e-mail investigation because of the anthony wiener laptop certainly had an impact on the final result. he's looking to reproduce history here. and it doesn't seem to be bill barr's going to do it. he's frustrated with that. he was uh-uh tacking mike pompeo, attacking chris wray. and obviously this frustration you would think reflects something the president feels or people around the president feel, that there should have been something to have derailed biden by now, to have upended this campaign, to change the dynamics. we're only 11 days away. that's the day jim comey in the 2019 election he made his announcement. we don't see anything like that in the horizon.
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we don't see anything that could change the dynamics for a president behind 9 or 10 points in the national polls. he may pull it out. the pandemic does affect how votes are affected. the national polls were accurate, and they seem to be, you know, in a place right now where the president is desperately looking for any magic bullet that will help him overcome this deficit he's facing in the next 11 days. >> susan page, try to suppress your shock as i share this clip with you. this took place in the oval office today. >> you think sleepy joe could have made this deal? sleepy joe. you think he would have made this deal somehow? i don't think so. >> one thing i can tell you is we appreciate the help for peace from anyone in america.
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and we appreciate what you've done enormously. >> so susan on a speakerphone with the leader of israel, one of our greatest global allies in a room where presidents have launched wars and used nationwide television addresses to calm an anxious nation, what do you make of it? >> well, it's -- once again it's something we've not seen previous presidents do. it's shattering another norm. he also didn't get the answer he wanted to get. obviously he wanted netanyahu to say something very critical about biden, and netanyahu who is probably looking at the polls in america just like we are decided not to take a shot at joe biden. just one other thing on the lindsey graham story. this could really hurt lindsey graham. lindsey graham has an unexpectedly competitive race. even in south carolina against jamey harrison who's had a ton of dough to spend against him,
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lindsey graham really needs trump's troops to come out and vote for him. and they're getting encouragement from those comments on fox news. >> where little is said by accident. thank you for that. our thanks to susan page, to peter baker, to dr. kavita patel. our big three on a friday night as we at long last head into a weekend. our thanks. coming up for us, can donald trump win over more voters who don't happen to be white men? our next two guests may be uniquely qualified to take on these questions. and later, last time around he made a shocking and early prediction that donald trump was going to win the presidency. tonight we're going to ask michael moore on live television how he's feeling about the race right about now. all of it as "the 11th hour" is just getting underway on this friday night. underway on this friday night incomparable design makes it beautiful. state of the art technology makes it brilliant.
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so can i ask you to do me a favor? suburban women, will you please like me? and then i heard i'm not doing well with suburban women. suburban women should love trump. suburban women, please. thank you very much. i saved your suburbs, women. suburban women, you're supposed to love trump. suburban women, please vote for me. suburban women, you should love me because, you know, someone said i'm not doing that well with suburban women. >> the president insists there he's kidding when he begs for suburban women to love him just as he now insists he was kidding about injecting disinfectants even though we could all see he was as serious as a funeral. back in the real world polls show he's trailing far behind joe biden among women voters, deeply under water in fact. the latest from "the new york times" siena college poll puts
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biden ahead with women voters by 23 percentage points. that gets your attention. then there was this remark from trump at the first of his florida rallies today. >> kamala will not be your first female president. she will not be your first female president. that's not it way it's supposed to be. we're not supposed to have a socialist. look, we're not going to be a socialist nation. we're not going to have a socialist president, especially a female socialist president. we're not going to have it. we're not going to put up with it. >> a curious approach for a candidate eager for support of female and black voters while we're at it. we want to welcome to the broadcast an author an activist who was a national organizer for the womens march on washington. also happens to be the author of the recent book "raising our hands how white women are stop avoiding hard conversations,
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start accepting responsibility and find our place on the new front lines." and back with us tonight, author activist, comedian over at the daily show with trevor noah. these days host of the podcast, how to citizen. welcome to you both and good evening. jenna, i'll start with you and let's get down to brass tacks. the assumption the last time around is that women were going to help hillary clinton break the glass ceiling and make her president. what's the assumption this time around do you think? >> they're going to move in a much different fashion. traditionally politicians have assumed that white women were going to pull the lever in the same direction as a lot of the men in their lives. and trump is directly speaking to them, hopefully he's going to be able to move. but previously the political have never been personal, and american white women have been
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able to opt out because they've been able to draft out politics and privilege for generations. but since the surprising results of 2016 you had the womens march, the muslim ban, me too. and obviously seeing all of the fault lines in our fail safe in our society because of covid, and then of course the magnifying glass that's been over the longest rerun in our country, the abuse of marginalized communities is forcing this demographic to reckon with their behavior in ways that is going to be mountain moving. >> baratunde, thanks in large part to our friend and colleague kristen welker as moderator last night we heard at least one side of a discussion on race that in my lifetime we've never heard at a presidential debate. and i want to play for you part of joe biden's answer. >> i never had to tell my daughter if she's pulled over make sure she -- for a traffic stop, put both hands on top of
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the wheel and don't reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you. but a black parent no matter how wealthy or poor they are has to teach their child when you're walking down the street, don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street. making sure if you in fact get pulled over, yes, sir, no, sir, hands on top of the wheel. >> of course that answer came about because the candidates were asked about the talk, the 10 and 2 positioning on the wheel and all that comes from that. baratunde, how does that compare with, say it with me, i've done more for african-americans with the possible exception of abraham lincoln? >> don't make me say it, brian. i just propose a toast to you, to jenna and everyone watching. these weeks are hard, and we deserve to celebrate. i wore a jacket for you tonight. that's how happy i am to make it to friday. >> thank you. >> what's remarkable to me about the race conversation on the
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debate last night first is that we were able to have somewhat of a conversation. and "the washington post" put it best when they said we had a civil debate, we only had to mute the president to be able to pull that off. and if there's one positive out of this zoom life we're all living in is that we know where to find that mute button now, and it's very powerful. i think joe biden did what he is strong at doing where and the president did what he's weak at doing. when asked to directly address a human being about a painful experience joe biden acknowledged the humanity of the person in question. he humbly submitted himself and said i don't know what that feels like, but he empathized. he recognized. he mirrored the pain of that experience. and the president per usual made it all about himself, made it transactional and made it ridiculous as if he actually has done more for black people than anyone since abraham lincoln. so he's made a joke and mockery out of real pain and real
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challenges, those that he actually kpar baits in this country. it is devastating that a parent would have to talk to their trial to fear the people charged with protecting and serving them. and our president doesn't see many of us as his citizens. >> and on the other side of the coin, jenna, is the president again today telling suburban white women as a bloc that he has saved the suburbs, that they don't want to, quote, live next to a project. how is that going over, do you think? and how did it go over last night when he said that some of the children separated from their parents actually had a pretty good, they were actually living in kind of nice facilities? >> that was the one comment that made everybody gasp, everybody gasp. and, you know, american white women don't care that they have a present that can't define socialism, but i think his
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statement around surely not a female president is just adding fuel to the fire. american white women are showing up in ways that are going to be historic and it's not for this one time vote, brian. come november 4th you're going to see a huge amount of white women having those hard conversations with themselves, reaching out to those neighbors in the cul-de-sac they'd never really spoken to, picking up baratunde's book and other phenomenal scholars putting out information and guiding us in ways that we need to. everyone now knows that they have the capacity to make real change, and they're going to raise their hand to do it. >> baratunde, last night as we all watched the president dusted off the i'm the least racist person you'll ever meet. here's "the washington post" today from his florida rally. trump referenced barack hussein obama three times in a row
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giving extra emphasis to hussein , the middle name. he conflated low income with crime, talked about his ban on travelers from muslim companies to keep out radical islam. meanwhile and we've since seen this on video a man behind trump's shoulder repeatedly sure appears to be flashing the white power symbol. i guess he's forthright about it. i don't quite know how anyone can process that pile of facts any other way. >> this president is desperate, brian. he's flailing. he's gripping onto a shrinking constituency because he refuses to be the president for everybody. he begs for attention from women that he's dismissed pretty much his whole life. when you look at his rallies what is he chanting -- lock her
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up. when he's seeking out members of congress and governors they're women, women of color. he doesn't see women as full citizens, he doesn't see people of color as americans no matter how long they've been here, no matter what office they have achieved. and i take a little bit of solace in the fact that more of us are seeing it. to jenna's point this is not 2016. they're trying to suppress the rote and people are staying in line longer. they're trying to turn us against one another and people are coming together. and there's no polls i trust more than the election results so i'm fighting from keeping my hopes up. i'm fighting to keep them down, but this president is not in a strong position. and he knows it, and we know it. and our time is coming. the peoples' time is coming. we've had enough of this nonsense. we really have. it's exhausting. >> let's leave it at this. we'll invite you both on when we know the results of the election should those results become known in our adult lifetimes.
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this has been interesting, and i want to thank you both for hanging out with us on a friday night. to jenna arnold, our thanks. baratunde, i'm the least jacket centric person you will ever meet, and that is snappy jacket. and we appreciate you bringing the a-game on our humble broadcast tonight. appreciate it, folks, very much. >> thank you. coming up for us, strapping in for a rough ten days ahead. perspective live from michael moore when we come back. chmiael moore when we come back. we are heading towards the 2020 presidential election, to ensure your vote counts......because of covid-19 ......polling locations ......confusion is high.. (fisherman vo) how do i register to vote? (working mom vo) i think i'm already registered. ...hmm!...hmm!...hmm! (woman on porch vo) can we vote by mail here? (man on porch vo) lemme check.
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and i have to say i mean i -- i'm sorry to be kind of the buzz kill here so early on, but i think trump is going to win. i'm sorry. i live in michigan and let me tell you, it's going to be the brexit strategy. the middle of england is michigan, wisconsin, ohio and pennsylvania. and mitt romney lost by 64 electoral votes. the total electoral votes of those four states in the rust belt, 64. >> for those of us watching last night it was a shocking moment. that was our next guest michael moore. that was july 20th, the summer of 2016. indeed 111 days later donald trump was elected president of the united states.
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so back with us tonight, michael moore, proud michigander, moviemaker, also happens to be part of the podcast, rumble with michael moore. bill is back tonight and no michael moore which leaves you for us. and my first question, we're 11 days out. we're about to be 10 days out. where do you see this race? >> well, i can tell you how it could go because i pay attention to all the bad signs. and like i said four years ago i know people don't want to hear this, but we have to pay attention to this because you can take nothing for granted. you can't take donald trump for granted ever. every time you said oh, that's the end of trump, it's never the end of trump. i mean it really is never the end of trump. so you have to get that in your head. and i wake up every morning with
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that thought, yes, he could win again. he pulled it off before, he could pull it off this time. and the science are for instance states like florida, pennsylvania, north carolina in the last few months have had in some of these states twice as many people register as republican than as democrat. even though democrats have more registered voters in each of these states, the trump people have tightened the gap between the republicans and the democrats in these states. trump went to michigan last saturday, held a rally in muskiingen county. it's only one of two counties that hillary won on the west side of the state of michigan back in 2016. all those counties along lake michigan she only won two. trump decides not to go to a trump county in michigan. he decides to go to a hillary county and thousands show up.
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i don't take any of this -- i take it all seriously. having said that, though, you know, four years of this madness. the people have had enough. i am completely convinced of this, and the possibility exists of us not only beating trump this time again with a popular vote -- 3 million last time -- we could beat him again but with a tsunami of votes. the there could be a 10 million vote difference. you had nate silver on here this week saying there could be 165 million people voting in ten days. 134 million four years ago. that's 30 million more people. and i have the sense the american people are going to come out in droves. that's my hope. it's going to require a lot of
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us reaching out to people who don't usually vote, to the nonvoter. the nonvoters are equaling about 80 million people in this country. they're registered, but they usually don't vote. we all need to reach our hands out to them. not vote shame them, not wave our finger at them. you understand why they don't vote. yes, it is a corrupt system. yes, it's not completely democratic. but our country, this is it. come out this one time. just vote this one time. you can go back to not voting if this doesn't work out. you don't like it, go back to not voting. but just this once come on because i know you love your country. i know you're committing an act of civil disobedience when you stay home on election day because you can't stand how this system feels so rigged to you. i get it. this one time, though, trust me that i think we have a chance to send trump and these republicans packing in a tsunami of ballots
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who'sgovernor gavin newsom. the governor says prop 15 is, "fair, phased-in, and long overdue reform", that "will exempt small businesses and residential property owners." join governor newsom. vote yes on 15. the longer donald trump is president, the more reckless he gets. we don't have to be held prisoner by this administration's failures. we can choose a different path. we can do what americans have always done, come together and meet the challenge with grit, compassion and determination. >> joe biden speaking today in wilmington, delaware. our guest, michael moore, remains with us. michael, i'm going to put on the screen some of the early figures from young voters where there is early vote in battleground
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states. and these numbers you almost have to double-check that they're real. they have so overindexed this time around, this is voters age 18 to 29, florida, north carolina, michigan compared to 2016. michael, perhaps being at home in a pandemic has its privileges. perhaps they have been forced to listen to grandpa randy pants talk about how the country's going to hell in a hand basket, but let's hear it for the youngs over-indexing on the vote. is what the republicans are hoping for hidden trump vote. there was a lot of that in 2016. poll centers didn't detect a lot of it in 2016. it sounds to me for your first answer before our break you're counting on all almost equal if not hidden overwhelming hidden
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pandemic reaction vote. >> i don't think it'll be equal. that youth vote is incredible. by the way, brian, they're up listening to you late at night especially 2:00 a.m. rerun. young people are -- that's where they get their news. but -- >> god love them. >> yes. i think seriously the hidden republican vote is that look at how trump has collapsed. in michigan biden was ahead by 16 points in july. he's ahead by anywhere 8 to 10 now. so trump has closed -- tightened biden's lead. so i think that's why you have to pay close attention to this. not all trump voters are going to tell people on the phone that they're voting for trump. having said that the possibility of this tsunami is incredible. people have had to live through this coronavirus -- brian, when those numbers came on today that 82,000 have died in the last 24
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hours, it's -- 800 to 1,000 a day and i think the doctor was on earlier saying this could go up to 2,500 a day dying, and you look at dr. redletters numbers from columbia university where if we had done what south korea had done, the total number of deadwood have been 2,000 and something. if we had done what japan had done it would be 4,000 and something. if we'd done what australia had done we'd have 11,000 dead. almost 225,000 people now dead. this is why trump's going down. and this is why anybody regardless of what they feel now has to come out and vote for joe biden to slay the monster here. this has to end. the possibility of us getting to a million dead in 2021 now you can see the path to it if trump gets four more years. jeff flake, senator of arizona,
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op-ed today said we can't vote for trump because four more years of him we won't have a republican party. that's an op-ed four years too late. the republican party has to pay for this along with trump. they enabled him. they're sycophants, and they allowed this to happen. and we're going to lose more people as a result of this. everybody off the bench. everybody out in the field. everybody out in the streets. >> if bill doesn't book you for next friday night just show up at the studio door and insist on it. michael moore, always a pleasure. at the end of this hour, ten days to go. >> thank you, brian. >> thank you. good to see you. coming up for us, america is already leading the world in terms of death toll. just today we broke our own record in terms of cases. we have a report from inside an active covid ward right after this. n active covid ward right after this to lower my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin.
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holding the phone up to family member and you can just hear the fear in their voice that they know their loved one is fighting for their life right now. i'm exhausted, my coworkers are exhausted. and i think i speak for a aand majority of health care workers right now. we're tired. we're sick of covid-19. we really are. there's no end in sight. >> note that last bit. no end in sight. while the president talks about rounding corners and lights at the end of the tunnel those on the front lines know the actual truth. number of daily confirmed cases as we said set a new record today. and in the state of wisconsin just to name one, hospitals are now near capacity. in fact, we have a report tonight from inside a busy covid unit at one such hospital. >> this is gabe gutierrez in madison, wisconsin, where the covid units at university
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hospital keep growing. >> i'm very scared that if this doesn't stop soon we're going to end up with a much bigger problem. >> reporter: dr.icaty started working here this summer. it's much busier now. how much worse do you think this could get? >> i think unfortunately it could get really, really terrible. it's devastating. it's terrifying to see someone struggling to breathe. you can see the fear in their eyes. you can see how scared they are. >> reporter: this covid unit has 28 beds that reached that capacity not long ago. it's now down to 20 patients, and this hospital is making plans for this winter as flu season takes hold. this is one of the hospital's three covid units. it was once just one hallway. now it's four. nurse katie knows the hardest part. >> they are lonely, dealing with this alone and it's become increasingly harder for us to try to manage and play all these different roles. playing the nurse, playing the support person. it's very difficult. >> reporter: tonight just across
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town the big 10 conference kicks off with college football season. no tailgating allowed but -- >> the badger game this evening does worry us. we have a very healthy culture of celebrating the badgers, tailgating, parties. if that happens this year with how much covid is in our communities, it is certain to cause a super spreader event. >> reporter: a dire warning for those on the front lines. over the last week here in wisconsin an average of 23% of those tested came back positive. >> and our thanks to correspondent gabe gutierrez for that report from wisconsin. another break, and coming up we may be entering the most critical winter in the modern history of american health care, so it would be a good time for millions of americans to have health care. the president says he's got this. esident says he's got this ♪ ♪ ♪
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last thing before we go tonight, while a lot of us are let's call it out of circulation during this pandemic, if you do go out this weekend, please do so safely. and please pay special attention to your surroundings. situational awareness they call it. look around and look hard because you can be a part of a great national effort to find the president's health care plan. we know it's out there because he told us. >> we're going to get a health bill passed.
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we're going to get health care taken care of in this country. we have a plan i think is going to be fantastic. it'll be released fairly soon. we have a really terrific i believe health care plan coming out. we're going to have a health care plan that's going to be second to none. we have two plans coming out. coming out in a very short period of time. we're going to come up with a health care plan. we're not going to vote on it until after the election. the plan is coming out over the next 4 weeks. we're going to produce phenomenal health care. we'll be announcing that in a few months. we have a great plan coming out. we're signing a health care plan within two weeks, a full and complete health care plan. we're going to be doing a very inclusive health care plan. i'll be signing it some time very soon. we're going to be introducing a trume t tremendous health care plan some time hopefully prior to the end of the month. >> in june of last year you said the health care plan would come in two weeks. you told chris wallace this summer it would come in three
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weeks. >> he has no plan for health care. >> so why didn't you develop a health plan in. >> it is developed. it's fully developed. it's going to be announced very soon. we will come up with a plan -- >> you will? >> yeah, we will. >> the latest effort from the lincoln project to take us off the air tonight. and that is our broadcast for this friday night and for this week. so we appreciate you being here with us. we wish you a good weekend unless you have other plans. and as always on behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night.


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