thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these truly extraordinary times. we're truly grateful. "the beat" with ari melber starts right now. hi, ari. >> hi, nicolle. thank you so much. welcome to "the beat." eight days out this year may not be florida, florida, florida, but, rather, scenes like this in what could be a must-win state for donald trump, pennsylvania, where both biden and trump are campaigning. biden suggesting the state can form his blue wall of victory while trump argues it's essential to his re-election. >> that's why we're here. and you know that blue wall is going to be -- has to be re-established. with the grace of god and the good will of pennsylvanians, i'm going to win pennsylvania. >> eight days from now, we're going to win the commonwealth of pennsylvania and we are going to win four more great years in the white house.

>> the biden campaign seeing these big stakes like pennsylvania as a way to potential win decisively and even early on election night. and in this final week, i can tell you for biden the hard evidence there is mixed. democrats are absolutely psyched about what you see here. leading the early vote, doubling republican turnout. now, if those trends hold, biden would, of course, win handily, but when you factor in the projected election day turnout, polls show biden with a narrower lead. it is still smaller right now than what clinton had at this point last cycle before going on to lose the state. the trump campaign strategy has been to try to get past the debates, meanwhile, and make a closing argument about basically anything but the coronavirus. like the economy or the political attacks on hunter biden. but that just ran into a wall. the white house reeling from this new covid outbreak. five aides to vice president mike pence testing positive. writ large.united states is hitting a new record for daily cases just this weekend. and that has a lot of pressure

on the white house which is just contradicting itself at this point. donald trump's top aide saying they cannot control the pandemic while trump insists the opposite. >> we're not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines. therapeutics and other mitigation -- >> why -- [ inaudible question ] >> no, not at all. in fact, the opposite. absolutely the opposite. >> as the white house bobbled some of this message, barack obama out with new attacks. i have more on the specifics later in the hour. i also want you to know we have a special joint appearance tonight by james carville and cecile richards. and mary trump joins us live in this upcoming segment. so plenty going on as we kick off the final full week before the election. we begin with heather mcgee from color of change and professor jason johnson. good to see you both. heather, sometimes the politics and the policy do connect. there's a covid problem across

america. there's a covid problem in the white house. it's the opposite of what donald trump wanted to close on. >> that's right. he wanted it to go away. he wanted his own top-rated free health care paid for by taxpayers, of which he is barely a member. to, you know, to make it, you know, his experience be the experience of millions of americans. but as predicted, you know, we are in another spike. it's not something that democrats are happy about because we -- democrats generally speaking care about the lived experience of our fellow americans. but this is what's going to be the closing issue in the 2020 election. is can this president keep this country safe? and the fact that he can't even seem to keep himself, his wife, his son, his vice president's inner circle safe means decisively no. and that's where you see seniors starting to turn, african-americans who have been disproportionately hard hit and immigrant communities actually

turning out at very high rates right now to say no more of this danger in our communities. >> and jason, i'm psyched here, as we go through the last final week before the election. i don't want to be too philadelph philosophical with you. people say everything happens for a reason. you ever met anyone who says that? >> i've met a couple people who say that every once in a while. yeah. >> and in my life experience and in covering the news, everything does not happen for a reason. some things are inexplicable. some things are unfair. sometimes it seems like karma is working and other times not. i think when you just look around the world. so i'm curious whether you think this is mobilizing for those at least on the democratic side who look at this as a thing that is happening for a reason. that if you hold superspreader events, if you model bad behavior for the president and you happen to apply it to yourself, well, more people at the white house get covid. if you wanted a closing argument

that allowed you to pivot, you'd have to be doing things that made covid less likely, which is not, apparently, what vice president pence's aides are doing, jason. >> right. mike pence is supposed to be the covid czar and yet he may have actually been spreading it to his employees and that doesn't make any sense. it's sort of like your chief of security keeps getting robbed and people keep hacking into his twitter account. so that is a bad message for trump. here is the bigger thing, ari, if in eight days joe biden wins the presidency. we probably won't know in eight days. it will be a couple of weeks. the thing that will be singularly responsible to that is covid. prior to covid, the president of the united states had a good economy, relatively high support amongst his base, but all that has been lost under covid. his inability to handle the messaging of covid. his inability to come up with a plan for covid. his inability to address the concerns that people have. if you look at key states, what are they states that are

tightening up or the states moving in biden's favor, you've seen a spike now in wisconsin. people care more about covid in wisconsin than in kenosha. spikes happening in arizona. arizona is tightening and leaning towards biden's favor. the president's inability to come up with a coherent plan and message about covid is what's driving seniors, african-americans and several other groups of people in his favor. are democrats happy about that? i don't know. but i think if this leads to donald trump being out of office, it might be a painful, violent, terrible situation that might have had one positive result. >> well, you mentioned what we're seeing in these numbers, and both of you stay. our panel stays. i want to walk through as we've been doing each night, the hard evidence in an unusual election. we don't know who will win, but we know more and more about who's turning out. a record-breaking 62 million americans voting early. and some interesting places like texas where 7 million people have alreadied voted. which means over a week out, they're on pace to have more people voting early than the entire 2016 race. that would approach the 9 million figure last cycle.

now, times the early vote gets lumped in with what democrats want. note it's actually republicans who are leading on this in texas by about 1 million there. now, across the entire nation, we're also seeing these surges. but do they reflect overall higher turnout or just earlier turnout? that's a big question if you're trying to see where this goes over the next week. we have new data on this as well. it shows higher turnout, which democrats say is good news for biden. from states, for example, that have already run elections, only and exclusively through mail ballots like washington state. so this is key. for them, there is actually nothing new right now about pandemic voting. they've always used full mail here recently. look at the numbers. in washington, they went from 755,000 early mail votes last cycle to now over 1.7 million. jason, when you see that double surge in an apples-to-apples place and what is traditionally

a blue state, what does that tell you? >> this is a great question, ari, because i was literally just talking to some campaign and get out the vote activists in georgia earlier today. there are some states where early voting is just cannibalizing same-day voting, right? it's the same people. they just happen to be doing it early. but if you look at places like arizona, look at places like pennsylvania, look at places like texas, in texas, 10% to 12% of the early voters are people who didn't vote in 2016. aboutle 8% are people who have no voting record whatsoever. amongst those early new voters, there is an 8% sort of advantage for joe biden. so what we're looking at is a situation where new and infrequent voters are turning out. they tend to be turning out for biden. which means right now if we were to estimate and things could change, republicans are going to have to have a same-day voting advantage of probably 5% to 8% in order to make up for the advantage that democrats seem to be showing and

democratic-leaning voters are showing in early voting. so it presents itself as something positive for democrats on one level, but we have to see what that same-day voting looks like next tuesday. >> yeah, heather, we've emphasized this a lot in our reporting because people can make up their own minds, but we know more than we have in past cycles. so what you start to see -- is not a prediction. i don't do that. as of today, biden is leading in polling, mail vote and early vote. >> that's right. and i think the narrow lane that is still there, which is the absolute x factor, and obviously i hope this is the last election in what is supposed to be the greatest and oldest democracy on the planet where we have to talk about this, is voter suppression. is poor election administration. is the idea that people will show up to the polls and find their names purged. that we will have to stop counting for some reason. because of archean laws that, you know, leave very -- many, many votes tossed in count. we know that black voters are

more likely to have their votes tossed than white voters. >> right. >> and more likely to be purged. more likely to have to vote provisional ballots. these are the types of things that should not have a place in a modern democracy and yet they have been the tip of the spear for the republican strategy of trying to shrink the electorate and keep holding on to a whiter, older electorate as the country becomes more diverse. >> yeah. it's a great point. i want to throw one other thing out at you when we talk about the trump effect. >> sure. >> because even in very conservative areas. take "the new hampshire union leader," they went out of their way to announce today -- this is news. they're making their first republican turn-away ever. first time they've ever gone with a democrat for president. they say our choice is joe biden. and then they continue to be republican in other ways, heather, pushing a republican congress. and then their list, among other things, including covid and what they call donald trump's cruelty. they also hit conservative principles that may be

forgotten, heather, like the fact that they're upset that he ran up the deficit. >> yeah. yes, it does seem like the concern on the right wing and in conservative and even moderate parts of the -- of our politics with the deficit and the debt just went away as soon as president barack obama was no longer the president. that's certainly an issue for conservatives that will absolutely come back as soon as there's another democrat in the white house. but i also want to note that this is where i think some of the strategy to try to create a big bipartisan tent is a risk. six of those years mitch mcconnell stopped basically all legislative progress on anything except for right-wing judges.

>> because turtle gonna turtle. >> right. >> i didn't mean to interrupt. i was just saying turtle gonna turtle. >> right. that's right. i just think it's really important that the entire republican party owns responsibility for their failure to lead, their failure to govern, for being the party of "no" and just the party of paying back right-wing donors on judges when we have, you know, a country that is being crippled and they simply are unwilling to legislati legislate in the public interest. >> if their view is that you should go to congress and do less, fine. they can own that. that's why we have democracy. as you point out, 60 million people are watching that debate and they might have heard donald trump blaming joe biden for what mitch mcconnell did. no, that's your fault. if you as a republican think that's a bad thing, you're ousting your own turtle. >> yes. >> i got to get on to mary

trump. i want to thank heather and jason for being our experts to kick things off. we've got a lot going off. donald trump basically stormed off that "60 minutes" set. everybody heard about that. apparently he couldn't face the tough questions. here it is, trump abruptly walking out of the room. bailing. >> are you ready for some tough questions? >> you're going to be fair. >> i'm going to be fair. >> just be fair. >> you don't get up there and say look, you know -- >> go ahead. what's your next question, leslie? >> you said the other day to suburban women, will you please like me, please, please. >> oh, i didn't say that. that's so misleading. >> you know, i didn't want to have this kind of angry. >> of course you did. leslie, you started with me. your first statement was, are you ready for tough questions? >> are you? >> i think we have enough of an interview here, hope. okay, that's enough. let's go. let's go. >> let's go. we turn to mary trump, president trump's niece. the author of "too much and

never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man." great to have you back. what are you seeing in that much-hyped moment. >> turtle gonna turtle, donald gonna donald. he can dish it out. he can never, ever take it. and, you know, it was just -- an endless series of examples of his cowardice, his bullying, his disrespect. that was so breathtakingly disrespectful. you know, it's kind of stunning that he thought it was a good idea to release his recording of that debacle before "60 minutes" did. >> yeah, and as you say, there is something deeper here as voters go to the polls and they look at policy, but they also look at the constitution of the person. and there are so many individuals around trump, led by him, who as you just pointed out, talk tough and then can't

take it at all. and viewers of "the beat" know that we make a point of inviting everyone. so people can hear and make up their own minds. you have been critical of the president. you've come back on. you've explained yourself. we've also invited on -- john bolton's been on the program and other people. but i have to tell you, what we saw there from trump was just an uber cartoonish version of what we find even when we give people time, try to give them, yes, adversarial and fair questions and time to respond. they don't like it. they leave. some of them don't want to come back, mary. >> yeah. you know, it starts at the top. and this is the atmosphere he's created. in the executive branch. these are the examples he leads by. so to speak. and basically the pledge he sends and the message his -- his associates send is that they are

not interested in a substantive conversation. they are not interested in being challenged because that would mean having to admit that they've done things wrong. that would have to be admit taking responsibility for things. and this is anathema to them. because right now everything's bad. and it's bad because of their failures. and i, you know, i thought jason johnson's comments were excellent, but i would just change one word, it's not incapacity, it's unwillingness. they are at this point unwilling to do the hard work. because, again, that would mean admitting that they hadn't done everything right up until this point. in fact, they've done everything wrong. >> hmm. i want to ask you about your uncle's mind-set. because one of the mythologies that he's tried to create is whether in life, business or politics, he doesn't care, he'll do what he wants. and there are times when we see that.

but he's also constrainable. >> yeah. >> which is to say he is less powerful than he claims to be. and in the spirit of that, i want to ask you about something deadly serious, axios, which is known to have a lot of white house sourcing and they've interviewed the president. so they're saying, they're reporting that there is kind of a post-election political execution hit list. if trump wins re-election, he wants to immediately fire, get this, the fbi director, the cia director, the defense secretary. they note that wray and haspel, basically for their independent, are, quote, despised and distrusted universally. the reasoning given, mary, is incredibly chilly as people make up their minds. the president, according to this reporting, still upset that these individuals will not use their power, talking cia, et cetera, going after his, quote, political enemies. given that you know him and there is some talk, well, this is how it is. how much worse could it get? do you take it as a serious

prospect that if re-elected, it could get worse, he would be abusing the cia, the pentagon, et cetera, beyond what the first term has even looked like? >> of course. what would stop him? nothing would stop him. no one would stop him. bill barr, mike pompeo, mitch mcconnell would endorse it, probably. so you're right, i mean, this is not a -- somebody who's dealing from strength. this is somebody who's dealing from weakness and can't handle contradiction, can't handle facts that undermine his preferred narrative. so, you know, we saw an example of what's going on when there was an fbi briefing that was run by dni ratcliffe. while, you know, the fbi director stood silently by. that's a sign of things to come. so -- except christopher wray won't be there at all. so we should be very worried. it is just another example of

how dangerous this situation is. it's another example of why donald cannot have four more years in the oval office because the dismantling -- , it won't j continue, it will increase exponentially. >> mary, i want you to stay with me. we've done this before. we're about 20 minutes into the hour. i have a 30-second break, our shortest of the show. when we come back, a little more with mary trump in 30 seconds. remember when the song of the summer took the whole summer to download? but these g's don't blink. [phone chimes] remember when you could only watch the nfl on tv? remember when you didn't have five different camera angles all live? whoo! iphone and verizon 5g. [piano glissando] 5g just got real. pow! 5g ultra wideband. now in more and more cities!

welcome back to "the beat" with ari melber. we are joined by donald trump's niece, mary trump, who has been speaking with us. mary, i want to ask you about something else that will be deja vu all over again for some from last cycle. "business insider" reporting jared kushner already now floating the launch of a trump-branded media outlet, according to republican sources. this is not sourced to critics. another sign people say of a 2020 defeat. the timing has trump advisers wondering if kushner himself anticipates that defeat. it would not be the first or only time the mind-set has gone towards profiting. what, if anything, do you read into this story? >> i think they're hedging their bets. that's another of donald's specialties. and i think young donald may not have access to the internal polling because people don't

want to get yelled at, but jared kushner certainly does, and he is also not doing his father-in-law's campaign any favors by spouting this horrifically racist rhetoric that he's been engaging in recently. so i do think it's -- it is possibly a way to cushion the blow for donald and give him something to look to beyond the election, if, indeed, he loses. but it's also another sign of weakness. >> yeah. do you see -- again, we don't know what's going to happen on election day and it depends on what people do, not just what we say. i really try to emphasize that in our reporting. but do you see donald trump in a potential -- if there were to be a transition period, given your knowledge of him, how do you see him approaching that? a high watermark, for example, would be barack obama, who against his own aides and the political movement of the time

went out of his way to say, well, this is the incoming president. i'm going to do this as seriously as possible, even if he's not. which wasn't, as you know, popular among -- in the obama white house at the time. did the transition meeting. gave him advice. didn't try to mess with him publicly. we know now that he went privately and said, look, do what you want. obviously we disagree. as a matter of competence, mike flynn is dangerous, you might not want to have him. trump didn't listen. created more headaches with mueller time. what, if anything, would you glean about how trump might approach this and would you worry about what under our constitution is still a lengthy amount of time from november to january? >> yeah, that is going to be a quite trying 79 days. because donald will do none of the things that president obama did. he will, in fact, do everything in his power -- which will still be considerable -- to undermine the incoming administration.

so, you know, the american people need to be prepared for what that period between the election and the inauguration will be. it will be fraught with all sorts of dangers that we can't even anticipate at the moment because it depends, as you said, so much of what happens on election day depends on when we get the results of the election. and it depends a lot on how the people around donald handle him. but it is not going to be a comfortable period of time and it could be potentially dangerous. and i keep using that word, but it, unfortunately, is the case because he still has the powers of the office. he still has people enabling him and that is, as you said, a significant period of time in which to undermine the system further. we've seen this with what they're trying to do with the civil service, which is incredibly dangerous. by politicizing it and, you

know, keeping his appointees in, which would further undermine a biden administration. so we just need to hang on to our hats, really, and do everything we can to make sure that donald is at least somewhat constrained by an election result that is a significant repudiation of him and his politics. >> mary trump with the insights. thank you for talking to us tonight. >> my pleasure. thanks, ari. >> really appreciate it. we have a lot more on the program. barack obama back out on the trail tomorrow. there are signs he's going to keep roasting donald trump. also, all of the talk about pennsylvania. how key is that state? and this record early vote. i have seen some around the country. we are going to get into it with our friends james carville and cecile richards. it's a special episode. stay with us. this administration and senate republicans

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in a functioning democracy, no one has to take two shifts off work to exercise their god-given right to vote. can new york do better? >> oh, yes. the new york city board of elections, you're right, it's run by -- by new york city. and it is an old-fashioned political model that, frankly, should be thrown out. >> important question there posed by my colleague just last hour to the new york, governor cuomo, happens to be a democrat.

we've been covering data on the surging voter turnout and also on the many ways that incompetent and negative state systems or outright voter suppression can still make it hard to vote in america. you can see lines in red and blue areas alike. we documented republican crackdowns last week. today here is a scene in democrat-run harlem. they were just discussing many had to wait hours in line to vote. local officials say they're adjusting to their record-breaking interest. or look in democratic-run philadelphia. lines were long. some keeping up spirits with the "cha-cha slide". ♪ turn to the right and move to the left ♪ ♪ right foot and stomp ♪ left foot and stomp >> it is fun to dance if you have the time to kill, but many people don't and this hits working-class people even harder. at the same time you deal with this, of course, we are seeing

people celebrate this civic act. we don't want to lose sight of that. california's compton cowboys delivering their mail ballots on horseback. meanwhile, an astronaut proudly casting her ballot from the international space station and voters making an early start to an election tradition here, putting voting stickers at the great crusader susan b. anthony. this is a reminder that two things we think can be true at once. it is still too hard to exercise this right in parts of america, including blue places like new york. but no difficult, this is not only worth doing but, yes, we think worth celebrating. in that spirit, we bring on two people who know their way around so many elections. james carville and cecile richards, former president of planned parenthood. good day to both of you. >> good to see you. >> james, say it ain't so. why does it take so long even to vote, as i documented last week, a worse problem with suppression

from republican states, but right there in new york, should the lines actually be that long or should they have this handled better? >> of course it should be handled better. we have a hodgepodge system. i don't know how many election administrators we have in the united states. my friend mike mcdonald at the university of florida thinks it's going to be north of 150 million people voting. that's a lot of stress on the system in any cycle. this particular stress on the cycle in this system because so many people are going to be voting and i just urge people, you know, they're out there dancing and waiting in line and exercising their right. just got to stay focused and bring this -- you know, get this thing done, but it's going to be difficult for a lot of people to vote. in see sealcecile's home state , people are waiting four, five hours. >> that's right. >> they're sucking it up and gutting it out. i'm going to wait in line. there's something at stake here. i love my country. i'm going to vote. >> yep. amen to that.

cecile, having discussed the structural part, let's talk about the political part. surge in turnout in texas. surging early vote. nothing's done until it's done, as we emphasize, but the early numbers show a coalition that does look more like an obama/biden coalition. >> yes, but just to what james said, you know, i actually voted yesterday. waited more than three hours in line to vote in new york. and usually -- new yorkers love to complain about everything. no one was complaining. they were resolute. they were determined. my favorite comment was someone asked a woman how long you been waiting to vote? she said four years. i think that really captures the spirit of what people are bringing to the polls. it is record turnout. enthusiasm. complacency, these are not issues that we're dealing with. as james said, it's the ability to deal with massive quantities of voters. and i think some of your own numbers show an incredible surge among democratic women voters.

i think actually if you add up the independent republican women, democratic women pretty much match that in terms of early vote and request for early absentee voting. so women are, as we've always believed they would be, they are going to dominate this election cycle. and they're showing it by showing up early. >> yeah. james, we always like to hear your views on the strategy part. which is so interesting. and you've been inside it. and james, you know, sometimes when the kids say "keep it 100," you always keep it 100, right? you keep it real. >> right, right. >> right. so -- >> i don't know what it means quite yet, but if that means keep it real -- >> yeah, you keep it real. let me ask you. i know you love joe biden. i know you think he's better than donald trump. i'm curious as a strategist what you think about these numbers. the biden activity since the convention, they've got a lot of public campaigning. but you're going to see in this

chart quite a bit of time spent virtual campaigning initially. now they're back out on the road more. and then you got a bunch of days where you got no public events whatsoever. is this the right move? what do you say, james, to some democrats who think that the biden campaign is starting to act like a rose garden strategy without having a rose garden yet? >> it's the pandemic, stupid. he respects other people's health and he respects his own health. and by the way, people can't stop throwing money at him. i've never seen anything like this. >> i agree. >> yeah, a lot of money. >> they can't stop writing checks. they're, like, you know -- and i think underneath that is a larger message and i think people understand. if he were out doing, you know, things with our friends in the labor unions and, you know, women voters that cecile so talently represents. doing it with poor people, we would be exposing people and intelligent people don't think that's a good idea.

>> so, james -- >> when people see these huge rallies -- >> in '92 it was, it's the economy, stupid. you're going with this year, it's the pandemic, stupid? >> exactly. that's a big -- that's a huge part of it. everybody in the world is aware of it. and i think people respect biden. he's not, you know, last thing i want in this world, i don't think joe biden is better than donald trump. i think he's on a different solar system than donald trump. but the last thing i want to do is joe biden to get sick, you know? that would be a real tragedy. so i don't have any problems. look, democrats are nervous, whiny, complaining. they're going to think of something to complain about. so, you know, they're going to complain about this and you just got to gut it out. we just got to bring this puppy home here in a week and we'll be fine. >> all right. i'll make you a deal, james, because you did keep it real. we'll see if by the end of this segment -- because it's a special week. if we can rewrite one of our big red banners to say "james

carville: it's the pandemic, comma, stupid." tre we'll try to get that out before we're done. cecile? >> yeah, look, james is exactly right. women have been not only voting, they are phone banking, they are text banking, they are delivering millions of letters to voters. it's not like because we're not running a traditional campaign there's not activism. and to james' point, you're seeing women giving money to candidates and campaigns not just in the presidents. you look at every competitive senate race, out rasing in grassroots money in just money that, like, dollars we've never seen before. and i think the last couple of things i'd say, ari, is if you look at strategy, look where the candidates are spending their time in the last week of the election. if donald trump is going to nebraska and joe biden is traveling to georgia, okay,

going to nebraska for a republican in the last week of the election, that means this is a losing campaign and the energy -- that's not just where it is. now, you're right, we can't assume anything. we have a lot of votes still to get into the boxes, but the enthusiasm out there is like nothing i've ever seen before. >> yeah. as you mentioned, map is revealing. james, we have the headline up on the screen. james carville, it's the pandemic, stupid. >> that was brilliant. i don't know where i could come up with that, i guess. it's just -- like i wrote "the ilead". >> cecile is reminding us that the last week odyssey is where the candidates go. they can huff and they can puff and they can spin, but what do you take, to her point, as a fellow political guru like yourself, that donald trump is

playing a lot more defense? >> he is and i'd like to see us go on offense. i'd like to see vice president biden and president obama go to the rio grande valley. i think we have great upside potential in texas. i think we have great upside potential in the valley in, in houston, and el paso and places like that. i'm really bullish on texas. and i think, you know, we have ut, "dallas morning news" poll had us up a couple that comports with and some had us down a couple. if we can drive that turnout the way think we can in texas, i think we can get this thing across the finish line. i really do. i really do. >> go ahead, cecile. >> you know i have to respond to that. james, thanks for the plug in texas. it is incredible. we are seeing, i mean, not only in the biden/harris race, but in congressional districts that have been gerrymandered for republicans for years. >> right.

>> and they were drawn so they diluted the urban core and went into the suburbs. and guess what? joe biden is winning in the suburbs. >> right. >> we have the potential to flip as many as nine congressional seats in texas on republican-drawn lines. and that's something that's never happened, like, not since i can ever remember. so something's happening in texas. >> right. >> it's not by chance. it's from years and years of hard work of the folks in the field. >> absolutely. >> so it's exciting. >> absolutely. and, you know, texas statehouse would be huge because we would get our hands on the pandemic. >> that's right. >> and i'm very -- and i hope democrats say we want -- we want -- we want vice president biden and president obama, we want them in texas. we can do this. if you do that, you change sea level in this country. you don't change an election. you change the whole political calculation. so i'm very high on texas. >> fascinating. james carville, cecile richards, we got a lot in here.

>> absolutely. good to see you, james. >> all right. good do see you, cecile. >> great to have you both. we'll be checking in with you towards tuesday, absolutely. it's like signing off a zoom call. everybody says good-bye. up ahead, the white house is basically headed for another superspreader event. we'll explain. five people around mike pence have covid. why is he still out on the road? and new details on what barack obama is doing and why donald trump appears nearous about it. it involves florida tomorrow. ♪ ♪ ♪

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memoir detailing the fight to pass signature things like obamacare which trump, of course, has been fighting to undo. tomorrow will be obama's second stop in florida where biden leads by two, but that's just really inside the margin of error. >> he hasn't shown any interest in doing the work. or helping anybody except himself. or treating the presidency like a reality show. his tv ratings are down. he thinks scowling and being mean is tough. if you got to walk out of a "60 minutes" interview then you're never going to stand up to a dictator. we've got a president who actually suggested selling puerto rico. he once asked our national security officials if he could nuke hurricanes. that's not normal behavior, florida. florida man wouldn't even do this stuff. >> well, joined by a former obama official, daniella gibbs

lachey. >> good to see you, ari. >> a point raised by another one of our guests tonight, which is the argument that donald trump can't handle the truth. he can't even handle lesley stahl. you know, i tweeted something, again, it's not appropriate for tv, but he's very thin-skinned for the supposed leader of the free world. and the fact that he got up and walked out of that interview, like, is that really who we want to lead this country, to handle some of the toughest problems and issues that we are facing in generations? somebody who can't handle some not even very tough questions from lesley stahl? give me a break. >> yeah. and it's easy to just take everything as a given, but it's -- it's not a given that donald trump as the current republican president with no high-profile other republican presidential support, right? george w. bush is more popular in parts of this country among conservatives than donald trump. for example. we just talked about how close

texas is getting. we don't see george w. bush complicating the biden campaign's plans. so it's got to bother both trump personally and also the campaign just structurally that they're playing one-on-two here with the obama/biden team. here was a little bit more -- people may not have seen this yet of obama over the weekend in miami. take a look. >> and if you've already voted, what do you need to do? you've got to go help your friends and family make a plan to vote. because this election requires every single one of us. what we do in these next ten days will matter for decades to come. >> daniella? >> he's 100% right. i mean, this is the most consequential election in i don't even know how long, and it is going to take every single person to talk to all of their friends and family and get them out to vote. and, you know, i saw you talk

earlier about the long lines that people are facing. and it is ridiculous that we're still going through this, but i am encouraged by the fact that people are willing to stand in line for eight hours. they shouldn't have to but they will because they understand that they need to vote this president out, and not just that, it's down-ballot, too, because you mentioned how obama was speaking about trumpism. it's not just donald trump that needs to go, it is trumpism, and the way you get rid of trumpism is you deliver a resounding defeat to those people who support him and who have backed him up and enabled him for the past four years. >> yeah. all important points. daniella gibbs. new details about a forthcoming event at the white house. and why covid, much to donald trump's chagrin, is back in the center of the page. we'll be right back. here's to the duers. to all the people who realize they can du more

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