tv Weekends With Alex Witt MSNBC December 12, 2020 11:00am-12:00pm PST
we begin with major milestone in the battle against the coronavirus pandemic. this breaking news as pfizer will begin shipping the first covid vaccines across country tomorrow with the first deliveries arriving thoe ining s on monday. more will come tuesday and then again on wednesday. the fda approved the vaccine for emergency use late last night. the first major step toward bringing the pandemic that's taken more than 296,000 american lives to an end. even with a glimmer of hope, the virus is still surging to record highs. new today in mississippi, there are reportedly no intensive care unit beds left in the entire state. the fda commissioner urging americans not let their guard down. >> our federal partners are taking steps to distribute this vaccine, we remind the public to remain vigilant as inoculation will take time. wear a mask.
wash your hands and remain socially distant when possible. protect yourself, the vulnerable and others. in washington, the president lashing out at the supreme court after dealing major blow to his ongoing legal battle to overturn the election. last night the supreme court rejecting the lawsuit filed by the texas attorney general and supported by 126 congressional republicans. all seeking to overturn joe biden's victory across four battleground states that were not texas. we have reporters across the country bringing us the laits on the t -- latest on the distribution plans and the possibly coronavirus aid. what is it looks like there? >> reporter: yes, we understand
that is what's happening inside right now as they are being package d and prepared to get te vaccine out. by the end of the weekend we expect to see trucks coming here for the loading dock just over my shoulder to start moving those vaccines toward distribution centers in memphis. we also understand that some vaccines are on the way over from the pfizer plant in brussells belgium by united airlines to chicago. the majority of the vaccines that will be distributed here in the united states. we expect for most of them to come from this manufacturing plant. the u.s. government has allocated $6.4 million doses of the pfizer vaccine to states based on their adult size population. not all of that will go out immediately. this first shipment, there's going to be about 2.9 million
doses being sent out. pfizer is holing some sbook they can guarantee a second dose of this vaccine for people who get the initial vaccine. you need the second dose three weeks after you get the first one. every single state will have a shipment by monday and in the first batch they expect to have all of those 2.9 million doses out by wednesday. alex. talk about the di tri bustributn where you are scott. >> reporter: it's a big state so there's a big plan and a dig
process. first thing that happens in california and the western states is they will do their own review of the vaccine. that's happening now. the state gets 327,000 doses of the vacciccinvaccine. that's a lot but it's a big state. 40 million in population. it's very much a drop in the bucket. it will be distribute bid region with most of the vaccine going to the heavily populated southern part of state, los angeles, san diego and santa barbara and the rest spread out across the state. who gets it first? front line medical workers, people that work in the health care industry including doctors, nurse, therapists and janitorial staff. then follow bid essential workers. where i am, uc san francisco medical center, this is one of
seven hospitals in the state will get their own allocation of the vaccine. probably fewer than 1,000 doses. even that involves some intricate planning. >> there's probably 100 people involved leadership roles. how we're going to make sure we get messaging and communication and appropriately and keep every one calm. >> reporter: there are potential side effects from the vaccine. they're not going to vaccinate all the staff at once. they will go by 30% at the time to make sure they don't have people who are out of commission because, remember, this state, like the rest of the country is dealing with an acute crisis as covid continues to spread.
negotiations over another round of coronavirus relief, they are at a stand still and next week's deadline is inching a lot closer and fast. there's a lot of finger pointing going on on capitol hill. tell me where negotiations stand right now and how confident you are that something will be passed before you leave washington? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on. let me just say to you as i am comfortable that we will come back to washington and there will be a package. too many people are dying, too many people are losing their
homes, too many small businesses are closing. we're not in a position to say that we're not going to do something. i am hopeful that my colleagues on the other side will understand that we have a responsibility to take care of all of our districts and i'm hopeful we will put dollars inc. our leadership have been out front for the people. all along we have been pushing that we need dollars for small businesses and state and local government for housing. we need dollars for unemployment and we need to send relief to people. there's suh many things in our package that we have pushed forward. >> that goes all the way back to the democratically controlled house and the heroes act having been passed.
will that include stimulus checks. will that happen for people, a sec round that so desperately needed? >> i can tell you my voice will be strong advocated for that. we saw what happened before. it gave momentarily relief to the people. we can't do this one shot in the arm and think it will last forever when we have seen the numbers soaring with the coronavirus. people are dying. when we look at the numbers in my state of ohio or when we look across the nation and we see 300,000 people dying and close to 16 million people in this country affected by it. we must do that. >> indeed.
lots of skepticism remain around the vaccine in communities of color who have been disproportionately affected. what are you hearing about the vaccine? what needs to be done to build trust? >> i think you said the word, trust. we need more education. many of us still remember what happened with the tuskegee airmen. we're not in the dlin cal trials in significant numbers. it gives many of us pause. it gives me more hope that people will take it. there's concern you can roll out and make the test case, the lest
of us. those who thank goodness for them. the dignity of work. we know disproportionately black and brown people are suffering. the message is more education, more awareness and let's make sure they are covered on both ends. what happens when that happens? are they going to be first in the line. letting the american people. it gives reason to pause when we look at what we just talked about with the covid emergency
relief package and how many i'm arguing and fighting with my republican colleagues who don't want to put the dollars in there nor do they want to match it up with the appropriate services that we need. >> here is something else that gives a will the of us pause. you know where i'm going. it's about your district in ohio which was hit with another all too familiar tragedy with the 23-year-old black man shot and killed while on his grandmother's doorstep. shot a killed by sheriff's deputy. tlp were protests in columbus last night. i'm curious your reaction to the killing and what you think needs to be done about this horrible epidemic? >> it's heart wrenching and devastating. i was out there last night. i was so proud of the protester who is were peaceful. mrs. payne, his mother asked people to be peaceful. we need to make sure and i'm glad we're getting national attention for this. unfortunately, it's for the wrong reason. here is a 23-year-old black man with three sandwiches in one
hand and keys in a door and now, he's dead. bull es, a number of bullets in his back, torso. it has to stop. that was the message last night. let his face be the message of man making this stop. we're having too many of our black men shot at the hands of a police officer's gun. what has happened, the fbi has been brought in. the department of justice and last night they even said the officials with the fbi and the department of justice actually said that the u.s. marshals were off duty. this young man was not a subject of the investigation. he was not a suspect. the house was not a suspect. here is an innocent man going into his home and now he's dead. that police officer is on his own and we are asking for justice and transparency and accountability because this has
to stop. our hearts go out to his mother, his grandmother and all of his family. we are standing with her. i've talked to her a number of times and i will stand with them and every one in this community to come together for casey goodson. >> carrying a sandwich, a few sandwiches and some keys. it's remarkable. one question here, i did mention you're the new chair for the congression congressional black caucus. what are the priorities of the cdc in 2021? what do you hope to accomplish with the new administration? >> we have the largest caucus in the country and we build on our foundation of what we have been doing for last 50 years and advance it. we have a jobs and justice bill. you're going to hear a lot of about economic development.
when you look at how disproportionately black americans are affected. we represent 17 black merns. 82 million americans. we're going to be out there fighting. you're going to see us. we're going to be very visible, very focal. 59 members going into the 117th congress. not to mention that vice president-elect kamala harris is a member of the congressional black caucus and we know having congressman cedric richmond with the ears and eyes on our president, marsh fudge is the secretary of hud. you'll hear a lot from the congressional black caucus standing up for racial equity. standing up against the social injustices. we're not going to leave anything on the table. >> i'm just going to say you
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. as hospitals across this country are bracing for the first shipments of pfizer's covid vaccine, fedex and u.p.s. are teaming up to make sure the vaccines arrive safely and on time. talk about what's going on behind you there? >> reporter: it's kind of interesting. when i asked, is everybody kind of scrambling in there now that we have fda approval. they said they have been ready for this. everybody is on stand by waiting for these vaccines to get here.
for security purpose, fedex won't tell us what time they anticipate the trucks will be rolling in tomorrow. blink and you might miss it. it will happen quickly. they anticipate not even storing the vaccine here at their cold chain facility. they have the ability to do but they expect it will go from pfizer's trucks to theirs and out on their priority overnight planes and freight trucks throughout the country at that point. we also heard earlier from operation warp speed chief operating officer about their time line from not just getting it from pfizer to these distribution centers but from there to hospitals. listen to what he had to say about that. >> within the next 24 hours, they will begin moving vaccine from the pfizer manufacturing facility to the u.p.s. and fedex hubs. then lit go out to the 636 locations nice nationwide. we expect 145 sites across all the states to receive vaccine on
monday. another 425 sites on tuesday and the final 66 sites on wednesday. >> reporter: all right. fedex shipments and u.p.s. shipment, fedex heading toward the west and u.p.s. heading toward the east. it will track their every move and the temperature having to be below 94 degrees. they expect toyota be more widely available in three weeks. with that first priority group that's going to get the vaccine, they expect by the first of the year or by the start of the new year, that first priority group will have it widely available to them but first it all starts tomorrow. we will be anticipating it. we'll be watching its every move and will be reporting live. >> we'll look forward to that tomorrow. we will take every single one we
can get. thank you. joining me is dr. natalie azar. welcome to you. what does that look like to you and proceed to the coming month sns. >> as we heard, about 145 sites will be getting it on bhonds the full 636 pre-determined locations receiving by wednesday. health care facility, hospitals, are waiting them very anxiously in parallel, long term care facilities will be receiving this week. what probably one of most apt ways to describe this once they get to their location is that it will be incredibly precision intensive meaning they have to go from the ult tra ultra kwo c freezing spe ining into the fre
many hospitals had shipped to them, specifically before they get ready for distribution. then that process begins. they have to thaw the vaccines. they also have to dilute the vaccines. i believe each vile can be up to five doses. we're on a call yesterday about how important it is to make sure that all of that is done directly. the last thing in the world is you want to do something incorrectly and lose a whole batch. >> is there a difference in the vaccine between what will be administered in the front injection versus the second injection? are you getting the same thing twice? >> correct. yes. there's no change in the dose. it's an intramus ccular injecti three weeks apart. >> i guess the question comes distribution. i'm curious what you think is
the right way to do this for state, for example. let's say a state has 10,000 doses available. do they vaccinate 5,000 people and save them, the other half for a second dose or give out all 10,000 right away and just wait for the replenishment which has to come within three weeks? >> i don't think there's a general or uniform or plan kbla policy. each state is able to make that decision about allocation independently. the state government working with hhs and their health departments will make their decision. not speaking to specific institutions, i know that some understanding they have been guaranteed a second dose are moving ahead and distributing or administering all of their doses thatly are recei lthey are rece week in anticipation of having that second delivery by the 21-day benchmark. other places may choose to do it
differently to split it in half to ensure the participants get their second dose without any huk k hik cups in the process. >> is there harm administering the second dose sooner or later than 21 days? >> the recommendation or what we're hearing and the advisory committee met yesterday and meeting today. everybody will be final and formalized once they release their stam. anything i say now could be different when the final determinations are made. they are allowing grace period and say that is a minimum. that is you can safely administer the second dose. i believe they said up to about 40 days or 42 days after first dose without losing any of the benefit. >> okay.
it increases the total of deaths from 296,000 to over 297,000. numbers are just stunning. the pace which they are accelerating is remarkable. let me get to the side effect of the vaccine. a bit earlier i spoke with a nurse from ucla who described some pretty severe symptoms after her second dose. take a listen. >> after that second injection i developed quite a lot of symptoms. i had chill, nausea, fatigue, a headache the day after the vaccine and then the evening i started to develop a fever and that kind of escalated overnight. i woke up the next morning with a high fever and at that point was pretty sure i had probably received active vaccine. >> that high fever registered 104.9. that is not mild.
is this what people should expect and why is this happening mostly after the second dose and not the first? >> right. it's happening after the second dose because that's essentially a booster. you're really, really priming your immune system with the first dose and getting that full reaction, that immune reaction that we want to see. when you hear vaccine experts talk about the side effect, they don't welcome them but it's a sign your immune testimosystem functioning the way it should and that is enlisting the reaction. that high fever is uncomfortable and nothing to bat a an eye at. low grade fever is not understa unexpected. they said not treating with tylenol or any anti-inflammatory prior to developing reaction but if you do develop it, it's to treat the symptoms with an
anti-inflammatory. the injection site pain, muscle ache, fever, headache, not uncan wanted. not an allergic reaction. that fever was quite high. as the nurse said, these side effects, if you will, or vaccine effects tend to resoever within day or two. >> absolutely. thank you so much for taking the questions and answering them as you always do so well. we invite all you have to watch weekends with alex witt tomorrow. we'll have a panel of experts answering your questions about the vaccine. you can e-mail your questions to askalex@msnbc. those answers coming your way tomorrow at 1:30 eastern. president-elect biden is shooz cho choosing a new education secretary. what his picks will mean for college an better remote learning? that's next. llege an better reme learning that's next. with free curbside pickup,
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in the president-elect's joe biden team a major effort is coming together for the vaccine roll out that could be set into motion before inauguration day. president-elect joe biden's team is feverishingly working to get a messaging plan in place to sell a skeptical public on the first fda backed coronavirus vaccine believing the trump administration has set the effort back significantly. it goes onto say biden's team is already putting an intense ifr focus on getting the vaccine to under served populations. that's according to public health experts who spoken with transition team. she's covering the transition for us. welcome to you on this saturday. the president-elect speaking publicly about his plans now. what's he saying? >> reporter: hey, there. we heard joe biden starting off his remarks yesterday when he introduced more members of his nominees to his cabinet yesterday. started off talking about the coronavirus an about the uptick in cases.
it's something that biden did long before he was the nominee. he would listen to scientists and the experts and we have seen him and ckamala harris said the trust the experts and would take the vaccine. listen to some of what he said yesterday. >> i want to make it clear to the public, you should have confidence in this. there's no political influence. these are first rate scientists taking their time, looking at all of the elements that need to be looked at. >> reporter: joe biden talking about how this isn't a political issue. this is a vaccine being put forward by people that he trusts that scientists are saying the trustworthy and the public should be invested and taking. this comes out as polls showing a lot of folks are skepts cal about taking this vaccine.
there's not a lot of confidence and that kind of comes with the track record of president trump throwing a lot of different confusing rhetoric about this vaccine an the whole safety precautions that should be taking place around covid. it's not been clear messaging from him. that's what the biden team is trying to backtrack on and make sure their messaging is very clear. as you mentioned earlier, when it comes to the underserved populatio populations, these are communities that will being impacked the most by the coronavirus. they have seen the largest uptick in cases. if you look at numbers these are also the people who have the least trust in a vaccine. that comes from general rags of not being taken seriously in paa public system an those impacts are things we're seeing today. that's something the biden harris team will have to be focusing on in the next couple of weeks and months as we start the vaccine roll out. how will they make sure to build up that trust in this process.
>> something they have already been focusing. thank you so much. appreciate that. new this week, a scathing assessment in a los angeles times editorial board writing of out yn going education secretary betsy devos. this as president-elect joe biden has yet to make public his pick for the post. joining me now is former u.s. secretary of education arnie duncan. the los angeles times suggests that she did not act as an advocate for schools with respect to safety measures for students and teachers. do you see that? >> unfortunately, i do. i think so often, way too often with entire trump administration, not just the department of education, the cruelty was often the point. not an accident. that was intentional. it was the point. consistently the department of education chose to fight for the powerful and not the vulnerable and not the marginalized.
reduce civil rights efforts to keep our community safe. we need a season of healing. how do we heal as a nation? >> betsy devos in october suggested that it wasn't up to her or the federal government to monitor the rate of covid. did the high school district need big picture guidance and how might that have helped if they had been given it? >> of course they did. i can't tell you how furious i am. not just at her but the entire administration. this pandemic as you know so well, doesn't know red state or blue state or kids versus adults or whatever. this pandemic had a devastating impact across our entire country. we have death rates that are staggeringly higher than other countries who took this seriously. you nieeded a national response to act like 15,000 school
districts could figure this out by themselves. it's malicious. it's destructive. it's cruel and it's kept schools closed far longer than they needed to be. it's been devastating. >> the burden was placed on teachers. they had to swicht to remote learning. they haven't been able to properly learn. what do you think could have been done differently on a federal level. >> a nation of how serious this one. third massive influx of resources to keep our schools
safe and clean. head of hhs and the head of the cdc meeting every day taubing publicly every single day. myself and other people tried to talk consistently to superintendent, build their own networks, do whatever we could to help out. there's not a superintendent in america that is a public health expert. that leadership had to come at the federal level and it didn't. every one is lost. kids have lost. teachers have lost. parents have lost. no one has won. now here is where we are. we need to do it together. >> i said this was scathing editorial and do your point, you said she should have been tight at the hip in doing this that and the other. what was she doing and that is reflected in this ed toir.
it says good-bye to betsy devos who survived by accomplishing almost nothing. we have president-elect biden who has proposed making public colleges and universities free for families that earn less than $125,000 a year. let's take a listen to what secretary devos have to say on fox business this week. >> well, the notion of free college is a horrible idea. period. we know that anything that is free become automatically rationed and it's form of socialism. >> your thoughts on that. >> i don't want to comment. it's not worth it. let me say this. what we need is a new vision. the goal can't be to go back the quote, unquote normal. normal didn't serve far too many kids well enough. we had a k through 12 system that served us well for long time. we need a pre-k through 14
vision. we talk enough about that. how many young kids did not go back to school this fall. we have to get them back in school. we have to find them. and a high school diploma is critically important but insufficient to getting a good job in the committee. pre-k through 14 has to be the new vision of education going forward. k-12 is important but i stuff. -- insufficient. >> i appreciate you don't want to comment but come back and comment on my show any time. the need for universal basic income may be greater now than ever in this country. a big step toward that, next. a big step toward that, next the cloud easier to manage. but we didn't stop there. we made a cloud flexible enough to adapt to any size business. no matter what it does, or how it changes.
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new this week, the idea of universal basic income is gaining traction across this country. twitter ceo jack dorsey donated $15 million to mayors for guaranteed income. that happened just this week. that will provide about 30 cities or so with up to $500,000 a piece. justing me now is the founder of ta group and the mayor of stockton, california, michael tubbs. welcome back. it's good to see you. i know that you first started this program. it was in february of last year. tell me how it's going for riz dent there in stockton and the feed back you have been getting. >> it's been lifeline will ever
covid-19 and more so now. we have folks who have said during covid-19 that the $500 has allowed them to stay home from work so they didn't inif he can other people with covid-19 because they don't have paid time off and there wasn't an vablts of tests when they were showing symptoms. people are saying the $500 a month has allowed them to keep up with their rent payments as they had their hours slashed and seen pay dreeecrease. people say the 500 there are has allowed them to way the two or three months that it takes to get unemployment insurance. this country has to have a guaranteed income as part of the pandemic response because we see people not be able to go to work, people being told to stay home and shelter in place. one in eight americans in 2020 are hungry. we saw when covid, when congress gave the covid checks, we saw poverty decrease during that time period. >> i know that republican kevin
lincoln will take over the office of majyor in january. what about plans for this program to continue under his leadership. do you have any concerns it will not? >> no concern at all. the plan was to end in january. it was originally going to end in july. because we saw what was happening with covid-19 and lack of action from majority leader mcconnell, we decided for people in the program we would allow them the lifeline. the program was going to end in january. january is upon us. we haven't seen action from majority leader mcconnell on ensuring that the american people get checks but we know that in march, we'll have research that shows that people spend money the way you and i spend money under kids and health and we're all better off when doing a bit better. >> when you look at twitter ceo jack dorsey pretty magnificent contribution he's giving, does that change the equation at all. it's got to help the program. >> we're incredibly thankful for twitter ceo jack dorsey.
in his donation, 30 cities throughout the nation will do guaranteed income pilots. we no that richmond, virginia, st. paul, minnesota, compton, california, they are started pilots. this will help the pilots expand. i think what's frustrating to me is that it takes the generosity of jack dorsey and not the action of elected leaders like mitch mcconnell to provide for our citizens. for not luxuries but necessities. we're talk about people in line for foods. >> stockton, it was planning to end but this is a kind of
program that you see as being sustainable. is this something that federal or state, local governments can undertake private citizens like jack dorsey and others. is this the kind of program that should be running all over this country, not just 30 needs to b. i am very adamant about the fact that just like dr. king talked about, just like thomas payne talked about at the beginning of the formation of this republic guaranteed income has to be a policy for the country so every american has an income floor and covid-19 made that incredibly clear and congress can do it. there's bills in congress that mitch mcconnell is sitting on allowing folks to receive $1,20 at least during the pandemic. we'll never have the recovery if folks don't have what they need to survive. >> you have had a very impactful
time in office between starting the guaranteed income program and the mayor's coalition and the first black mayor of stockton, california, one of the youngest in the country and expect good things from you and what's next? >> i'm not sure what's next. i'm confident that i'll continue making good trouble like john lewis said and push the country to live up to the values and always be a champion for the basic dignity of all people and for america to live up to the potential so not sure what job title that is but we'll work and push for a democracy that's inclusive for all of us. >> i'll continue working with you and welcoming you to this broadcast. next back to where it started, how the first recipients of the vaccine in britain are doing. ♪ and i can't get enough ♪ we're still having fun,
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the president lost a federal lawsuit today in wisconsin, a trump appointed u.s. district judge dismissing trump's federal lawsuit asking the court to order the state's legislature to name trump the winner. the judge said the arguments quote fail add a matter of law and fact. meantime in the united kingdom, the next phase of the vaccine rollout is week away after hospitals administered the vaccine. general practitioners will begin to give it to patients. quickly to sarah harmon in london. this week ahead, this vaccine, it is compared to what's happening here in the united states. what's been the reaction there? >> reporter: hey, alex. the uk's been a couple days ahead. they started tuesday at 50 sites across the country and actually something really interesting happened. two nhs, two hospital staff workers, actually did seem to have an allergic reaction to this vaccine.
british regulators updated the guidance saying this should not be given to people who have a history of a specific type of allergic reaction. both of the individuals who had that reaction to the pfizer vaccine here in the uk did have that history. and they're also monitoring a third person who seemed to have an allergic reaction but not said what kind. earlier in the week the prime minister johnson emphasized that this vaccine is safe and encouraged folks to go out and get it. >> i know it's people taking it in the next few days and weeks and there's nothing to be nervous about. it's safe. it is the right thing to do. it is good for you and for the whole of the country. >> reporter: of course, alerks, we know that there are more demand than doses. the uk has 800,000 doses of the pfizer vaccine and ordered 40
million and won't arrive fur sometime and this point it's people ever 80, people who work in care homes and front line health care worker who is are first in line for that vaccine. alex? >> okay. sarah harmon in the uk, thank you so much. that's going to do it for me. thanks so much for watching. yasmin is up next looking at the challenges to distribute the covid vaccine. she has a doctor on standby to answer your questions. ♪ you must go and i must bide ♪ but come ye back when su-- mom, dad. why's jamie here? it's sunday. sunday sing along. and he helped us get a home and auto bundle. he's been our insurance guy for five years now. he makes us feel like we're worth protecting. [ gasps ] why didn't you tell us about these savings, flo? i've literally told you a thousand times. ♪ oh, danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling ♪ i'm just gonna... ♪ from glen to glen
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a very good day to you. yasmin vossoughian will join us shortly. we' we're having technical difficulties. first off two major stories to follow closely. we'll start with breaking news on the pfizer vaccine rollout. a cdc advisory council approved those in 16 and older. the next step in the production to the public. the vaccine will soon be on the move to all 50 states. a monumental logistical challenge as you might imagine and it could not come any sooner. the grim breaking news just minutes ago that the united states passed 16 million covid cases. also president trump smacked down by the supreme court. now trying to find some solace in the thousands of