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travel bans he was doing and the way he was focusing on the people of islam and the way he was -- it was resonating in a very strange way and it was, it felt personal. >> yeah. i got to pass, now i got to pass the mic to joy reid because i'm out of time. busta rhymes, i hope you'll come back on "the beat" because we got more to discuss. >> absolutely. everybody, please dive into that extinction level event 2 the wrath of god so you can see and understand a little more what me and ari was going to get into. see you again. have a great holiday. thank you.
donald trump will be gone in 35 days. the electoral college delivered the final blow to his battle to steal the election from president-elect joe biden. nevertheless trump continues to spew his baseless conspiracies about widespread election fraud that doesn't exist. he continues to lie that he still has a path to victory which he doesn't. the only thing trump has so far succeeded at is inflaming a civil war inside the republican party. it's a war that he at least seems to be winning. take a look at what transpired in the united states senate today. a display of pure trumpism full of conspiracies and lies. wisconsin republican senator ron johnson was more than happy to give trump's false claims an airing in a grievance peddling bizarro world dog and pony show he called a hearing. >> this hearing should not be controversial. even though courts have handed down decisions and the electoral
college has awarded joe biden 306 electoral votes, a large percentage of the american public does not believe the november election results are legitimate. this is not a sustainable state of affairs in our democratic republic. today we will hear testimony on how election laws in some cases were not enforced and how fraudulent voting did occur as it always does. >> johnson didn't provide any evidence to back that up because there is none. and not one single court agreed with that assessment but unsurprisingly donald trump thought johnson did an excellent job as opposed to say republican majority leader mitch mcconnell who for once mustered the temerity to stick his neck out and admit, yes, trump lost. that prompted trump to whine, mitch, too soon to give up. republican party must learn to fight. wah. just to be clear ron johnson and the republican led homeland security committee devoted nearly four hours to hearing
fantasies out of a maga fever dream and not the massive russian cyber attack on multiple federal agencies including the department of homeland security, which johnson's committee oversees. of course the eternally kremlin friendly donald trump has also not said one word about that russian attack. here on earth one meanwhile, the homeland security committee's top democrat michigan's gary peters ethered johnson for playing trump's useful idiot by pushing claims that undermine our democracy. >> the president and many of his supporters are, unfortunately, continuing their efforts to undermine the will of the people, disenfranchise voters, and sow the seeds of mistrust and discontent to further their partisan desire for power. whether intended or not this hearing gives a platform to conspiracy theories and lies, amplifying these obviously false narratives about fraud or
irregularities corrodes public trust. it threatens national security. it weakens our democracy and our standing around the world. >> joe biden on the other hand is still plugging along doing the work filling out his incoming cabinet including announcing his historic pick today. >> the biden/harris cabinet will be an historic cabinet that looks like america. a cabinet that taps into the best of america. a cabinet that is opening doors and breaking down barriers. and today i'm proud to nominate its newest member, for secretary of transportation, i nominate mayor pete buttigieg. >> buttigieg could become the first openly gay person to be senate confirmed as a cabinet member. despite the long delayed acknowledgment of biden's victory by many republicans the gilded old party could soon be getting a gift from biden in a cabinet in the form of a commerce secretary who is one of their own.
according to axios biden is eyeing some well known republicans as a signal to red state americans that he understands their concerns. a move of bipartisan generosity i will note that only democratic presidents seem to keep making which is hardly ever reciprocated by the other side. i'm joined by former senator al franken host of the al franken podcast, white house correspondent for pbs newshour, and the editor at large of "the bulwark." we've got joe biden on the one hand offering to give republicans commerce secretary which, you know, puts them in control of the relationship with american businesses which i'm not so sure meat packing workers will be so excited about a republican who doesn't believe in regulation being in charge of that. they don't generally believe in things like the minimum wage but okay. biden is willing to give them that. meanwhile on the trump side he is asking for a special prosecutor for hunter biden. he is going to keep fighting his old scores. this is from the associated press. trump is still weighing his
options considering whether to pressure rosen who is the new attorney general, the sit-in, to make a special counsel appointment or if needed to replace the acting attorney general with someone more likely to carry out his wishes. he has even asked his team of lawyers including his personal attorney rudy guiliani to look into whether the president has the power to appoint a special counsel himself. that's what he's doing with the last 35 days of his power. how much more of this per your reporting are we going to get, how much more score settling? >> from my understanding we'll get more. it depends on how much people at the white house can rein president trump in. we're now seeing that he is openly thinking about firing the fbi director chris wray. there is reporting the white house counsel said you should not do that because it would create the perception of a loyalty test. of course if you've been watching the trump campaign and trump administration you realize the president wants people around him that are loyal and has blurred the lines between the white house and the criminal justice system in this country through the doj and fbi in a way no other president has.
so the president in some ways is avengeful. he is living, not wanting to fully grasp the idea he has lost and these are the waning days of his presidency while acknowledging his power is going to be gone soon so he wants to do as much score settling as possible and you bring up the fact president-elect biden is looking at having republicans in his cabinet. this is going to be the challenge of a joe biden presidency. he is going to be reaching across the aisle trying to be bipartisan but he has a base of democrats who want him to spike the football. who want to say look these are the people who separated immigrant children and did all sorts of things democrats found to be appalling, unconscionable at times but he wants to be someone who wants to reach out a hand and say let's unify. that is a tall order, a tall challenge but joe biden is saying it's what he wants to do. >> you know, senator franken, this is the thing that bugs a lot of base democrats about the party to be honest with you.
you've got joe biden reaching his hand across and the other side waiting to bite it off and that is what they do. you've got the daily beast, wrote a really smart tweet about this saying unless the person that biden plans to nominate is named susan collins or richard burr basically people who are in seats that can be filled by a democratic governor, i'm not sure what the upside is for biden. the plaudits he gets from nominating a republican are ephemeral at best. it underscores the degree to which cabinet choices are being made on basis of perception. why do democrats keep doing this? >> i think it is richard burr or susan collins so we can pick up a senate seat. look this, contrast this to the people trump picked. there is no comparison. he is picking kcompetent, experienced people. today pete, mayor pete
buttigieg. who, you know, transportation is very important. he's part of a climate team really. he's a great, going to be a great spokesman for infrastructure. we have to do infrastructure. i think that is something we can do together. but just compare this cabinet to who president-elect biden has compared to betsy devos, i mean, come on. you know? these are -- gina mccarthy today. just a great pick. these are great picks here. >> no, i understand. he could pick like the worst republican elected official in the world and it wouldn't be as bad as wilbur ross who is
basically mr. burns from the simpson's. biden's picks are adults and human beings but i just feel like it is the attitude that democrats go into governing with which is we're going to find a way to work with them and republicans go into governing with the attitude of let's destroy them. we'll destroy them. we'll destroy them and take all their power. it is a different mindset and i don't know if you believe, you know joe biden. can he actually pull this off? because the other side is not willing to play bipartisan. they just want to destroy the democratic party and take all the power. >> i have to agree with how pernicious the republican party is today and has been for a long time. but i'm not sure there's anything you can really do about that. unfortunately, it's become trump's party and i think it may continue to be. i don't know. i'm probably not the best person
to predict that. i thought trump was done when he said i like people -- i don't know but it seems like this could be -- what mitch mcconnell did today, it was a disgrace to wait until now. an absolute disgrace. he's a disgrace. the house democrats, the house passed a covid relief bill in may. people have been suffering. we have tripled food insecure. this is unconscionable. i don't know how you deal with these people. i really don't. >> i a lun percent agree. charlie, i am so glad you're here. you have spent a long time in
conservative media and i think that people think the reason that republicans act the way they do is simply because of ideology but it is also because of a bottom line. the money that you can make feeding off people's particularly racial anxieties. it is very lucrative. your fellow panelist al franken wrote a book called "rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot" about the way he has been able to milk grievance and whineyness for decades to make money. this is a montage of other folks making a good deal of money playing off of trump voters' fears and, you know, refusal to accept reality. take a listen. >> the most popular politician apparently in the history of mankind, that guy. or so we are told. he held a rally today. one itsy bitsy little tiny problem is the rally was in a mostly empty warehouse with a parking lot with a few cars with very few people.
it even makes me doubt his so-called record breaking vote total. >> an intel source telling me president trump did in fact win the election. he says that it is up to the supreme court to hear suits from other cases across the country to stop the clock. >> there would exist at least the mathematical possibility that president trump could be named the constitutionally elected president. >> i mean, charlie, those people sound bananas to most people. but they also control a lot of voters' belief systems and thoughts so they can sell them my pillow. so they have a financial incentive to keep this going. and they then sort of control the republicans. ron johnson has to run for re-election with those people that watch lou dobbs and think that there is a secret intelligence source that talks to maria bartiromo. that's who his voters are, who rand paul's voters are. they're up in two years.
they're going to do the chicanery. how do you get out of it? >> first of all i wish it was just about the money because then you could deal with it but it runs a lot deeper. you see delusion running into derangement there. i agree with what senator franken said about mitch mcconnell. it was way too late for him to acknowledge this. he basically allowed a month for these conspiracy theories to spread and these doubts and for donald trump to engage in his anti-democratic clown coup. but having said that, there is going to be an interesting civil war in the republican party between the merely trumpy and the completely crazy. very clear donald trump is going with the completely crazy. he is going to go with the lou dobbs as opposed to even fox news. you think things were bad. things are about to get worse that you have the president embracing qanon, watching this hearing and cheering on false information. so what mitch mcconnell is saying to the republicans, okay.
we've done our trump thing at least for now but do not continue this. this is an interesting moment with mitch mcconnell telling the senators don't, on january 6th, do not try to force this ridiculous, delusional, and self-defeating floor fight against it. so it is going to be interesting to see who lines up on what side. i think this is probably donald trump's party forever. maybe nothing ever mattered. maybe he will continue his death grip. but it's interesting that right now in the republican party, you do have at least some people pushing back on him saying how crazy and nutty are you going to be? but donald trump is right now insisting that as an act of loyalty as a litmus test that republicans embrace the craziest notions including as you point out these charges of fraud that are completely without any basis in fact. >> i have to ask you this question. you know ron johnson. you were there for his come up.
he's up in 2022. doesn't he have to join in this mo brooks insanity? doesn't he have to be that senator? he has to run for re-election with a whole lot of people who spend all their time watching lou dobbs voting in his state. >> okay. mo brooks is from alabama. this is wisconsin up here. so we're very, very different place. i've known ron johnson for a long time and
i've been asked this question how did ron johnson become ron anone and i honestly don't know. i don't think this is a politically smart move for him. if you go into a coffee shop in oshkosh or waukesha, wisconsin i honestly don't think people are wishing that their senior senator was worried about hunter biden's laptop or, you know, concerned about the latest -- or spreading russian disinformation or holding ridiculous hearings like the one today or the one last week where he gave oxygen to antivaxxer conspiracy
theorists. i'm not sure that this is the genius political move that some people might imagine because, look. al franken understands i think that minnesota and wisconsin are not the same as other parts of the country. we actually want people to be a little bit not crazy. >> we'll see. thank you all very much. up next on "the
reidout" we'll see. we want them infected. can you believe that? that is an actual quote from a top trump employee at the department of health and human services who repeatedly pushed for herd immunity in newly released internal e-mails. the official also made clear that the trump administration knew its policies would result in an increase in virus cases. unbelievable. meanwhile in georgia republican senator kelly loeffler's mansion dropped $6 million in value overnight.
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i was fired back in may for refusing to actually change numbers and make the state look like it was ready to reopen when by our own metrics it was not. i was one of many sources in the sun sentinel here in florida that showed that the desantis administration had ordered department of health employees across the entire state not to even mention covid-19 in the weeks leading up to the election even though cases were increasing quickly. >> fired data scientist rebekah jones told us last night about her suspicions that florida was manipulating its coronavirus
data. less than an hour later the south florida sun sentinel came out with investigation showing that an astonishing pattern has emerged in florida's covid death tally one that suggests the state manipulated a backlog of unrecorded fatalities presenting more favorable death counts in the days leading up to the 2020 presidential election. it's not just florida. today the chairman of the house select committee on the coronavirus james clyburn released a memo showing political interference in the national coronavirus response. the report says that top trump administration officials repeatedly communicated about pursuing a dangerous herd immunity strategy as far back as june 2020. the trump administration was aware its policies would not only fail to stop the spread of the virus but would lead to an increase in cases. quote, there is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the nonhigh risk groups to expose themselves to the virus. the memo also includes an e-mail from an hhs senior adviser that
urged colleagues to suppress scientific information about the risk posed by the virus to minority communities that he admitted was very accurate out of concern it would be used against the president. i'm joined by dr. bernard ashby, miami based cardiologist and florida state lead for the committee to protect medicare. and the dean of the brown university school of public health. to you first. this is the memo for those of you who can see that on the screen. this is the memo that's come out today. i want to read a little bit. some of the most frightening things i've ever read. both the rachel maddow show and this show we've been talking about the sort of evidence, right, that there's been a herd immunity strategy but it was circumstantial until now. here it is. there was no other way. it only comes about allowing high risk groups to expose themselves to the virus period. we continue the public health message of public hygiene, hand
washing, protecting elderly at your homes and nursing care facilities, social distancing and so on but we go on and let our societies open up fully now. that is in all caps. if the hospitalizations occur in young and they get severe illness that is a different story and we'll have a luge mess on our hands and real nightmare. that is not the case as of now. infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle age with no conditions etcetera have zero to little risk so we use them. we use them to develop herd. we want them infected. we want them infected and recovered with antibodies. that is some of the scariest stuff i've ever read. that apparently was the official policy and memos of our government. your response? >> joy, thank you for having me on. it is pretty stunning. there are a group of people, scott atlas certainly one of
them, the white house adviser, but others who have advocated this strategy of kind of let it rip and let's get lots of people infected. by most calculations we'd have potentially many times the number of people dead as we already have right now. so this seemed to be what they were doing and they were having this debate when no serious person in public health thought this was a reasonable strategy. it is stunning to see it written down and argued in this way. it confirms a lot of suspicions many of us have had and this is not the way to control this pandemic. >> it was in your state of florida you had the governor there demanding schools reopen saying you can't even make them cyber. open them all. opening disney world. opening bars. saying everyone go to the beach. basically go and live your lives. go to the bar knowing people would get infected.
this expose' suggests he was pursuing the same strategy. talk about how dangerous that would be. they are also apparently saying but don't tell people how many minorities are catching it because it would look bad for the president. >> listen, this is part of a pattern that we've seen from the beginning where the trump administration and desantis expressed that they preferred to protect the economy over lives. they framed it as a mutually exclusive thing. we understand that it is not mutually exclusive if they simply did their job our economy would be thriving and people would still be alive. so from the beginning of the pandemic when they didn't report hospitalizations, proactively and the delay, we had no idea what the actual hospitalization count was to the time now where we're talking about delaying the reporting of the deaths it is
part of a consistent pattern and now desantis has essentially prevented other mayors and leaders of municipalities from doing anything to restrict the virus. so he says he is not pursuing herd immunity but his actions speak louder than words. so the rhetoric he is saying doesn't square with what he is doing. we can attribute this in the state of florida to his specific policies because he doesn't think, desantis doesn't, in scientific terms. he thinks in very political terms, economic terms, and doesn't really understand the complexities of the science and unfortunately has led to unnecessary deaths. >> you can see the death count over a million cases. you had what looked like an attempt to get lots of people infected. lots of rallies without masks. lots of parties. lots of in white house events.
you could have said this is just stupidity. but now it looks deliberate. let's get a lot of people sick because they didn't care the count could potentially have been millions of people. talking 2, 4, 5, 6 million people. you would need to infect to get herd immunity. they seemed okay with that. >> yeah. there is a mindset these folks had that if you're not over 70 that somehow this virus is totally benign and won't cause any harm. we know that is not true. they've just ignored that data and that's been the whole great barrington declaration, all of the documents that have suggested we need to protect the vulnerable. they claimed, they said protect the vulnerable let everybody else get infected but never did much to protect the vulnerable. what we are seeing now is there are lots of infections happening, lots of people getting sick and dying. and we always knew this was going to be a failed strategy
and we're seeing the effects and we have to change course and i suspect we will under a new biden team. >> here's hoping. thank you both for being here. i think both would say this is pure foolishness. thank you both. have a great evening. meanwhile why did kelly loeffler, a pretty stunning story, why did her $10 million mansion, we keep on giving you stunning stuff, lose $6 million in value overnight? if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back,
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nyquil honey. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever best sleep with a cold medicine. early voting in the georgia run-off which will determine the control of the united states senate is shattering records. while it's only been a few weeks since election day there's been story after story after story about corruption and ethics issues that both republican senate candidates appointed senator kelly loeffler and incumbent david perdue continue to face including today's daily beast report which reveals that the value of loeffler's atlanta mansion dropped $6 million overnight in 2016 and no one can explain why. the estate went from a $10.5 million appraisal to $4 are.1 million resulting in a much lower tax bill for the senator and her husband. the report states there is no indication loeffler or her
husband act edit improperly. however several georgia based real estate experts told the daily beast the decline in the mansion's value was very unusual. i am joined by sam brody author of that piece and congressional reporter for the daily beast and representative-elect nakima williams of georgia. thank you both for being here. sam, when i read your story that talked about kelly loeffler putting hundreds of thousands of dollars in renovations into her property and anyone who has watched hdtv once knows that when you put, do reinnos it increases the value of your property yet hers declined sharply. what i thought of immediately when i read your story this is michael cohen and his testimony to congress. take a listen. >> it was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes. such as trying to be listed among the wealthiest people in "forbes" and deflated his
assets to reduce his real estate taxes. >> sam, that's what it sounded like to me. do you have evidence that may be what kelly loeffler was doing? >> no, we don't necessarily have any evidence that kelly loeffler, her husband took any specific action to generate this huge reduction in their property tax bill. this is a decision made by the board of assessors in fulton county which is home to atlanta but we do have evidence that the decision that the board of assessors made in fulton county was really unusual. as you noted we spoke to a number of experts on this stuff here in atlanta and elsewhere who all said that to see a drop in valuation of 60% from one home to the next is really unusual. something to keep in mind too is as you noted they did renovations to the property. their neighbors didn't see any similar reductions in the values of their homes.
the atlanta property market at this time was absolutely surging. homes like that were not seeing drops of $6 million but increases. there are a lot of questions about how the county handled this and they weren't able to give us an answer. we inquired and they said we don't really have an answer. they informed us that the people who were in leadership at the office at this time all do not work there anymore. we got our hands on the documents where the county is supposed to sort of show their work and it really doesn't make any sense. >> how much money did she and her husband who i should note is the ceo of the new york stock exchange, they're already rich, so all of the things she has been accused of that make her richer, she doesn't need the money. like she's rich. how much money did they save in taxes? >> they saved $110,000 in property taxes their first year and then this change happened in 2016. their home since then has not come even close to the initial value of $10.5 million it once had. so it saved them somewhere around half a million dollars in
the last five years. this is one of the most valuable properties in the entire city of atlanta. a huge generator of tax revenue for the county and the property sphere so it's just unusual that a drop like this would occur. we were told it got -- got various theories from experts on this who said a number of things could have happened. it could have been a mistake. somebody could have changed it. the review which is odd because this is the only house to see a drop like this but the only thing we really know is whatever happened on the county side two of the wealthiest people in atlanta got an enormous tax break on their home. >> deprived atlanta and the state of georgia of tax revenue that could help pay for schools in atlanta. i just think we should note that. representative williams, this sounds for all the world like corruption. it just does. there is no explanation. i think it is important we clarify the scope of what sam
brody was able to find. as an elected official what do you make of the fact that at least 500,000 or so dollars in tax revenue was, you know, lost to the state of georgia? >> joy, i think when people show you who they are we should believe them. we have seen time and time again even at the brink of this pandemic kelly loeffler looked out for herself, her own stock portfolio, and lined her own pockets instead of the best interests of every day georgians. this just tracks in the same playbook. and so i know that when everybody else was prepping and trying to buy toilet paper and preparing for the pandemic, i was getting my son who is a student in atlanta public schools who could have used that additional revenue in our school system, she was not looking out for the best interests of every day georgians but for herself. so this is in line with who she has shown us that she is. >> there are two kinds of politicians. the kind like you're in the seat
of the late great john lewis who is truly a public servant, you know, and there are people who seem to use the seat to enrich themselves and help themselves out and have a questionable relationship with democracy. i want to play you kelly loeffler asked whether joe biden is the president-elect. take a listen. >> have you acknowledged that bind is going to be the president? >> look, the president has a right to every legal recourse. that's what's playing out right now. >> but have you acknowledged that biden is going to be president? >> look, my focus is on winning this race right now. >> have you ever acknowledged biden is going to be president? >> look, there will be a time for that if that becomes true but, you know, the president has a right to every legal recourse and we're letting that play out right now. >> if that becomes true. i'll give you the last word on that, representative williams. >> republicans in georgia continue to live in a fantasy land, joy. the electoral college met
monday. i am one of the proud 16 electors from georgia and we delivered our 16 electoral college votes for joe biden and kamala harris. the people have spoken and it doesn't matter if kelly acknowledges it or not. >> i saw you got -- my best friend aka and y'all akas are going to be impossible to live with over the next four years because you guys got your girl. thank you very much. appreciate it. congresswoman-elect nikema williams and sam brody great reporting. thank you very much. up next, shocking body camera footage out of chicago. you won't want to miss this. police force a woman to stand naked and handcuffed as they search her apartment even after learning that they were in the wrong apartment. that woman joins me next. ♪ ♪
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has been trying to uncover and document the chicago police department's pattern of raiding the homes of innocent people. their investigation uncovered police body cam video of the following horrifying scene shot in february of 2019. in it a 50-year-old social worker had just returned home from work. as she was getting ready for bed dozens of police officers burst into her home. after announcing they had a search warrant looking for a suspect with a gun. naked and handcuffed she was left terrified and without answers for nearly 30 minutes. i should warn you what happens in this video is really difficult to watch. >> go, go, go! police! police! go, go! >> police! >> don't move. don't move. >> back, back. go, go, go. move it. move it.
hey. hands up. hands up. >> you have the wrong house. i live alone. can i please go -- what are you doing? i have to call somebody. this is not right. i don't even know what you're doing. >> ultimately, the police realized that they had the wrong address. that video is the subject of current litigation as the city of chicago tried to block its release. mayor lori lightfoot who was elected two months after the incident took place in 2019 has faced fierce criticism for her office's role in keeping that video private. today mayor lightfoot said she was first made aware of the incident yesterday and that what happened to ms. young was unacceptable. >> this is serious business and what happened to ms. young should not have happened. i watch that video in absolute horror.
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you've got the wrong place. nobody has ever been here. i'm standing here naked. you got the wrong place! you got the wrong place! >> i'm joined now by anjeannette young whose home was wrongly raided by the chicago police as well as her lawyer. thank you both for being here. ms. young, first of all, i have to tell you as i watched that video, all that went through my mind was breonna taylor, breonna
taylor. you hold your breath waiting for the gunshots unfortunately. that is the world sort of that we live in when it comes to policing as a black woman and at home alone. i want to make the audience clear that you wanted those scenes to be shown, right? you wanted this video to be out. is that correct? >> yes, i absolutely wanted the video to be out. it's been two years and my attorney has been fighting with the city about this case and they've done nothing to address it. and so i wanted the video out. i wanted everyone to see just how terribly was treated in this incident. >> i just want to make that point because a reporter did ask mayor lightfoot today, it's very clear that you filed a freedom of information request last year for this video and it was denied. she said my understanding is different but i'll have my folks look at it. that is part of the dispute.
did you file a freedom of information request for this video? >> i absolutely did and i have the document and followed all the procedures and went to the website and submitted my information. they even responded stating they needed additional time and then responded saying they could not provide it to me because it was an ongoing investigation. >> so let's just talk about what actually happened. you're home alone. you hear this banging at the door. they burst in. we saw what happened after that. at some point did you get the sense these officers who were standing around, a bunch of men standing a round you as you're nude realized they'd screwed up? >> i think they realized they had screwed up as in what they were expecting on the other side of the door wasn't what was actually there. but i also don't think they gave any thought to, you know, now that we're in here and this is, this woman is nude and this is
what we have, i don't believe that they gave any thought to adjusting what they were doing to protect me in any type of way. >> the thought, the sight of you standing there without your clothes on and them sort of throwing a blanket or coat over you but not really paying attention to make sure it stayed up, knowing this is all filmed on their body cameras can you convey, because it doesn't seem like these officers understood how humiliating that can feel. can you convey how it felt in that moment for 30 minutes? >> in that very moment i was terrified. i tell people that i was scared into compliance. i was afraid to move. because in that moment i thought if i did anything out of the ordinary that they would shoot me. i mean, the guns were pointed and drawn and i was fearful for my life. and i actually thought that if i made any type of wrong move, that they would shoot me.
so to, you know, have them standing there kind of ignoring me as a person, i don't think they cared that their body cam was recording that i was nude. it didn't feel like any man in there cared anything about me as a woman or a female. you know, they didn't even view me as in this could be my mom or my sister or my cousin or any female they cared about. they didn't care about what was happening to me. >> that came through. mr. salter, at one point ms. young asked how can this be legal? i'll ask the same question. how can this be legal? >> well, thank you for having us, joy. the issue becomes a warrant can be issued based on bad
information. that's what happened here. sometimes mistakes do occur but the issue we have when we get into the house is once they encounter miss young she told them, no less than 43 times they were at the wrong place. they didn't view her as a human being so the law requires that even while executing a validly issued warrant that you do so reasonably. a reasonable human being, a reasonable police officer would have thought after they saw this woman completely naked, let's allow her to get dressed. there are 12 of us here. one of us or two of us can follow her into her bedroom, slightly turn our heads. we have already searched. they had searched the entire apartment. there's pretty much one officer per 100 square foot. they searched the entire town house within probably a minute or two after their entry. they don't ask her her name until about 35 or 40 minutes into the video. i contend they didn't view her
as a human being until they asked her what her name was. that is just unacceptable. >> were they looking for a black woman of ms. young's description? >> not even close. ms. reid, they were looking for someone -- the ridiculous aspect of this is the person they were looking for was actually on electronic monitoring from the illinois department of correction. a simple google search in the police cruisers could have solved the entire situation. that warrant was issued at 10:00 in the morning. they purposely waited until the cover of darkness to break into her home and violate her privacy. and there was no need for that. they claimed they were looking for one handgun, some ammunition, and some drugs. they sent an entire tactical team in there as though they were looking for a terrorist. >> ms. young, we know that the city of chicago is pretty notorious, their police
department is. just for decades. the npr reported that an analysis of chicago's own law enforcement data shows the city has paid out more than $500 million for police misconduct meaning they'd rather pay a lot of money than just reform this department. what do you want to see happen now? >> i want to see accountability first and foremost. accountability for the officers who came to my home. for the officers who viewed me less than human, who videoed me being naked. and especially the one guy i think he was a commander or the guy that was leading, he was yelling at me. you need to calm down. you don't have to yell at me. not even understanding the magnitude of what i'm experiencing at this point and why i'm visibly upset. why am i yelling at you? i'm rightfully yelling at you because you are ignoring everything that i've said over the last 20 minutes.
so i would like to see some accountability for every single officer that was in my house that night. what is that accountability? >> absolutely. >> i'm not really sure. but i want acknowledgment. i would like to see change. i'm a social worker by profession. >> absolutely. and i think all of america wants the same thing for you. anjanette young thank you for being here. keenan saulter thank you very much. that's tonight's "reidout." "all in with chris hayes" starts now. >> tonight on "all in" -- 300,000 americans dead. tonight we know the trump administration deliberately tried to spread the virus. >> the goal of policy is absolutely not to stop all spread of