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remarkably great for their health. and not having the distraction of like classroom noise and switching classes and heavy backpacks. those things actually are a bit better academic environment for my kids. >> so you can hear from those parents. there's a split in how they feel they should or shouldn't proceed with the option to eventually be in person right now. some saying they want to. others saying they're fine as the status quo is going with virtual learning. virginia is a commonwealth that is proposing vaccinating teachers as a priority. even though teachers are getting that added boost of protection, it's not fool-proof even for the teachers themselves. they're still not feeling entirely confident or having both doses of those vaccines to go into the schools. >> amanda golden, thank you. it's a new hour. a horrific sight above colorado. a united plane with hundreds of people on board suffering engine failure and sending debris like this plummeting down on homes
below. >> very loud bang. knew that was not good. and felt like it was on our side of the plane and i was over the wing and flipped up the shade and saw the front of that engine missing or blown up. >> can you imagine that? president biden declaring a major disaster in texas where 14 million people are still without safe drinking water and tens of thousands are still in the dark. >> an emergency meeting on another growing crise this. some texans reporting skyrocketing bills, getting charged thousands of dollars for using electricity last week alone. >> donald trump set to give his first speech since leaving the white house at a major conservative conference as he reportedly gears up for a war with his own party. high-profile targets in the insurrection probe. the fbi and the doj investigating trump allies roger stone and alex jones over their possible roles in the capitol hill riot and whether they may have instigated any violence.
>> the u.s. could reach a grim milestone as covid numbers will likely pass half a million deaths today. tens of thousands more could also lose their lives to the virus in the next three months. >> we have a lot to get to. it's sunday, february 21st. i'm lindsey reiser. >> i'm kendis gibson. our correspondents and analysts are standing by. we begin with the breaking news. tom costello and the new information that we're learning about that terrifying plane emergency. tom? >> good morning to you. these were harrowing moments in the skies over this denver suburb of broomfield which is between denver and boulder. about 1:00 in the afternoon, this united flight had just taken off from denver. suddenly experienced a very serious in-flight emergency. the video purportedly from on board united flight 328 terrifying. the right engine on fire. most of the covering gone.
while on the ground, shrapnel and what appears to be the engage cowling in the front yard of a home in the denver suburb of broomfield. nearby, more chunks and pieces littering a soccer field. it was just after 1:00 p.m. mountain time when the pilot on the 777 flying from denver to honolulu declared an emergency. >> mayday, may day united air 28. >> 328, say again? >> united denver departure united 328 heavy mayday. aircraft just experienced an engine failure. need to turn immediately. >> on the ground witnesses heard a loud bang and then saw a buff of smoke as debris began falling from the sky. >> we heard the boom. looked up and saw stuff raining down from the sky. so we took shelter. >> reporter: united says the plane experienced a rare, uncontained engine failure where the engine fails and explodes rather than containing the failure.
despite widespread debris, no one on the ground was hit. >> remarkably, we've had no injuries reported yet. so considering how nice the weather is today, compared to last weekend, the amount of debris and how far it stretches, the dog park is right here. obviously, the turf field behind me. and we have had no reports of any injuries. >> reporter: the incident drawing parallels to an engine failure three years ago on a southwest airlines flight that made an emergency landing in philadelphia. one passenger was killed when the shrapnel punctured her window pulling her from her seat. today, no injuries. the flight landed safely at denver international. transportation secretary pete buttigieg. >> i know that ntsb is already mobilizing so that they an independence agency can provide right away information as they piece together what has happened. >> reporter: these types of uncontained engine failures are very, very rare, but investigators are going to be looking at whether there was some sort of a problem with the fan blades. did they come apart?
was there a metal crack or a metalurgy problem to look at. they'll look at whether the engine ingested a flock of birds, maybe a drone, maybe some foreign object debris on the runway at denver before it took off. you can imagine this is a high priority for not just the ntsb but also the faa, boeing and united airlines. kendis and lindsey, back to you . >> a lot to investigate here. joining us is steven wall aformer director of the accident investigation unit for the federal aviation administration. steven, good morning. >> morning. >> thanks for being with us. you investigated plane accidents for almost a decade with the faa. have you ever seen anything like this, and how much of a miracle was it that no one was hurt? >> well, yes, we have seen things like that, and as tom costello noted, these are rare, but this remains, you know, an area of risk -- extremely rare
for modern jet engines to fail and then, particularly this is called an uncontained failure where the debris goes outside of the cowling. that was the front end of the cowling we saw in that -- in the yard. so there was a reference to the southwest accident. in this kind of a situation, there's a risk of different consequences and the worst one, in my memory, in 1989, a united dc 10 crashed in sioux city because the -- because of an uncontained engine failure which cut the hydraulic lines and made the airline uncontrollable. so while these are extremely rare, the consequences of this kind of event can vary greatly and can be absolutely catastrophic. >> as you were speaking, we had video of some of the debris from
that plane in that neighborhood in colorado. and there was something i noticed there for the first time. i've looked at that video for several times. if we can pop up that house video again. because there's a vehicle there that just looks crushed. as the camera comes around and we're so thankful that nobody got hurt in this, but look at that pickup truck at the top. >> wow. >> that gives you a sense of how lucky those people on the ground are. first i'm noticing that after looking at all of this. here's the thing about the investigation part. at least compared to when you started your career. there's a lot of evidence that is out there, including that video of the plane landing. you have those images of the plane flying. take us through the investigation process right now for those on the ground. >> so the ntsb will launch a go team. the faa is a part of that.
and the manufacturer will be invited and the airline and people who can really contribute anything to the investigation. now many, many accidents depend heavily on the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. this accident is much more likely to be a bunch of metallurgists pawing through wreckage and collecting these scraps of metal and finding out what failed because this looks like -- more like a fan failure where the big fan on the front of the engine may have failed and rather than the heavy disc on the inside, just my guess, just looking at what i see there on that engine. so i think that this -- the cause of this failure will be determined to a very high degree of certainty. >> when we look at the images here of the damage and kendis pointed out that pickup truck that was just smashed, can you tell us anything about the speed
and the force with which these debris parts are raining down here? >> well, they're just falling from the sky and that actually -- that piece you see there, it's an obsession with aircraft and engine manufacturing to keep everything as light as possible. so that piece is kind of a faring that's right on the front. it may well have heat -- the capability of heating itself up for ice protection and things like that. but it's probably actually for its size, it's fairly light. obviously, it's not like the landing gear came off or something really heavy. so, you know, this stuff, the debris you're showing there now would probably more or less just flutter down to the ground. of course, you know, you've both flown over the country many times and much of the country is completely sparsely populated
and bloomfield, colorado, is densely populated so that makes it fortunate there were no injuries on the ground. >> i'm sure they'll look at the plane. it started service in 1995. thank you for being with us. we're going to turn to the crisis and breaking news in texas where millions are still without safe drinking water and thousands are still in the dark right now. nbc's antonia hylton is in houston for us. it's one nightmare after another for residents. the power might be back on but you have half of the state's population without safe drinking water. >> that's exactly right. it has been a harrowing week here, here in texas -- or here in houston specifically. they're still under a boil water advisory that's going to last at least until tomorrow. but there is some good news, kendis, from both the federal and state levels. people are going to start seeing some assistance.
so the biden administration has made this major disaster declaration for texans in need. so, for example if you are a homeowner who has suffered significant damages to your home and property, you're going to be able to reach out to the federal government for a loan. or if you are an individual or family and you're living in unsuitable living conditions in the cold or pipes broken, you'll be able to reach out for temporary living assistance as well. then at the state level, the governor, the lieutenant governor and a group of bipartisan lawmakers met last night to address a different financial crisis as a result of this storm. texans who are seeing wildly high utility bills as a result of all of this because of a spike in the energy market. so in some cases people are being charged thousands of dollars a day to essentially have freezed in their homes and struggled to have resources and water to drink. these lawmakers came together and agree, despite their differences, that texans should not be left footing the bill.
>> but yet again, they are. and it is insult on top of injury for them. nbc's antonia hylton, thank you. vaccine efforts kicked into high gear. we'll take you to a delaware racetrack where fema is helping people get their final dose. plus, no mardi gras, no problem. they took the pub crawl from new orleans to the lake of the ozarks this weekend despite covid warnings. could we see another superspreader event? it comes t, everyone thinks their way is the right way. i wash on delicate. i just stuff everything in. you have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. the secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. so, everyone is right. it's got to be tide. (deborah) i was hesitant to get the hearing aids
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welcome back. the first fema-run mass vaccination site in the mid-atlantic is up and running in delaware. they plan to administer 18,000 second doses over six days. a bright spot as the u.s. nears 500,000 deaths. gary grobak is at the speedway with details. they can get their vaccines without ever having to get out
of the car. >> that's right. you know you've heard of the movie "field of dreams." this is the movie "field and parking lot of orange cones." this is the grid set up as they're going to bring cars through this setup through those tents. it does feel like the cavalry is arriving here in dover. we've got 200 members of fema on the ground helping out with this vaccination site, vaccinating the second doses of 18,000 delawareans over the next six days. fema is bringing with it not just those 200 people but funding and the material support as well to help put an event like this on. this is now all part of president biden's push to get fema mass vaccination centers in as many places as possible. we saw them in los angeles, in oakland. we'll see them in philadelphia, miami, orlando and here in dover. it couldn't come soon enough for delawareans. people that were concerned they got their first dose but maybe wouldn't be able to get the second dose on time.
that's the reason this is an entirely second dose situation. it's both moderna and pfizer depending on what you got in your first dose. and there's also a big gap here that delaware officials told me they were concerned about. i want to show you this graphic on the screen here. about 130 first dose -- 1130,00 first doses. but only about 40,000 second doses. they could do with a lot more supply. that's something we've seen across the country. >> gary grumbach, thank you. some americans are on track to get their second dose. others are pretending the virus doesn't exist. >> are we missing somebody? >> yes.
♪♪ >> these varying shots coming from snapchat showing at least 15 people without masks on the party bus in the ozarks. restaurants and bars there are hosting mardi gras celebrations through the weekend. you may remember that incident from memorial day, the backlash of crowds and people packed into a public pool there as well. >> maybe some didn't learn their lesson here. we're happy to have dr. jasmine marcelin with us this morning. doctor, nearly half a million people are dead in the u.s. you see images there are people on a party bus not wearing masks. at this point, we're beyond telling people what they should do. wear a mask, wash your hands, stay home if you can. how do the actions of these people affect not only the ones they love the most but people they don't even know? >> good morning. thanks for having me. yes, it's really disappointing
to see images of folks just really acting like the pandemic is over because it's not. and the actions that they are contributing to right now can lead to increases in cases, increases in number of people being diagnosed with covid-19 who may not even be related to them. so they have their little pod on the bus with them or in the parties but we don't know who these individuals are then going to go home to and going to interact with afterwards. and so it's -- people need to understand that the things that they do, together in little groups, does not stay together in those groups. literally what happens in the ozarks will not stay in the ozarks. and so we need folks to really take personal responsibility for their actions and really think about the folks that are being impacted beyond themselves and
their little circles. >> as rachel maddow talked about, what is your acceptable risk? clearly for these folks, the bar is really, really high for the acceptable risk. and they canceled mardi gras in new orleans, but lake of the ozarks celebrations are continuing. do you get a sense it's all the positive news that -- relatively speaking, that we've had lately with covid that has a lot of people just kind of saying, oh, it's time to party? >> there has been positive news. we are excited about vaccines that are continuing to come down the pike. we are looking at the number of people who are being diagnosed and hospitalized and dying from covid and thankfully seeing a little bit of silver lining. but we are not out of the woods yet. i think people may be just tired. pandemic fatigue is something that is real and people have been itching to hang out with friends, to have some sort of
semblance of physical interactions. but this is not the time for us to let up and let our guards down. we need to think about how our own personal risk tolerance may be different from those that are around us and how we act upon our risk tolerance can impact those that we don't even have an idea that are at risk. >> doctor, we're all so eager to stop staring at the four walls of our own homes and socialize. do you have a sense, it feels like that goal post keeps being moved even further and further. first it was maybe early summer when we'll go back to early life. now it feels like it's fall or winter. what's your take on when we might have some semblance of a new normal? >> i think we need to focus on what is the goal that we want to have and what normal actually means. and when we're thinking about normal being getting back to
having in-person gatherings and being able to fly across the country and meet our grandparents and do graduation, of course, people want to be able to do that. the timing of that is hard to be able to put a pin on because, in addition to the -- while we're still having vaccines that are hopefully helping, while we're still having some people who are adhering to recommendations of masking and avoiding crowds, we still have a subset of folks who are not adhering to those public health recommendations. and so as long as we continue to have people who are not paying attention to that, it will always seem like that goal post keeps moving because every time we take two steps forward we may take a step back. and so i would love to be able to see folks being able to get into these crowds throughout the fall and to have to think about
graduations happening next year in person. but it really has to do with the individual personal responsibility. >> yeah, that indeed. doctor, appreciate your time. this reminder tonight. as more mutations of the covid-19 virus are being detected across the world, what is being done to save lives? msnbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel has a special report on the effect of the new strains on the battle against covid-19. "on assignment" airs tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. the senate will hold a magnifying glass over the security issues during the capitol insurrection. why the justice department and fbi are zeroing in on high-profile right wing figures like alex jones and roger stone. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes your stomach for fast relief
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profile targets yet in the capitol insurrection probe. the fbi and justice department are investigating whether alex jones and roger stone played a role in the capitol riots. they chpd trump's false claims that the election was stolen due to voter fraud. authorities are exploring if they influenced the rioters. but it does not necessarily mean they will face criminal charges. joining us now is msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg. good to see you. great you're with us on this sunday morning. are they being targeted for influencing the rioters? >> well, they are being investigated. and the point you made is really an important one. influencing someone is very different than conspiring with them. there's lots and lots of ways to commit a crime. if i ask you to commit a crime, if i solicit you, that's a crime. if i help you commit a crime, that's a crime. if i conspire with you to commit
a crime, that's a crime. and if i cover up a crime that you committed, that's a crime. but merely influencing people, right, talking, speaking, much of that is first amendment protected. and so it all depends. and that's why you do investigations to figure out the question that you asked. >> members of the far right extremist group, the oath keepers, they are seen providing security to roger stone at his hotel just hours before the insurrection. an oath keepers leader urged followers to attend the riots and, quote, make it wild. do you get a sense that stone's ties to this group make this situation even more problematic for him? >> sure. it means that they're going to be asking lots of questions about what he did and when he did it. the best way into a criminal conspiracy is through the conspirators. and when people are charged with crimes and convicted of crimes, one of the very first things they want to do is help.
and they want to do it not because of good and noble reasons. they want to get out of as much trouble as they can get out of. all of these people being charged, the folks who went in, assaulted cops, vandalized in the capitol, they are going to get asked a whole bunch of questions including, what did others do to influence this, to solicit these crimes, to conspire with you. if it turns out roger stone or alex jones or others played that role, then you're absolutely right. they could be facing criminal liability. but i want to be cautious here. that's still a long way off. there's a lot we don't know at this point. that's why you do investigations. >> and chuck, i want you to keep your legal hat on here. in "the washington post" reporting it's saying that there might not necessarily face criminal charges. but say there is, as you said, criminal liability for roger stone. could he actually be charged in a federal crime? he was pardoned by trump in december. >> very good question. so when he was pardoned by
former president trump, it was for stuff he had done up until that point. there is no such thing as a future pardon, right? president trump, president biden, any president can't give you a get out of jail card free for something you haven't done yet. so if roger stone committed additional crimes outside of the conduct for which president trump pardoned him, absolutely he can be criminally liable. and we talked about this a lot when president trump was still in office. the president -- a president, any president can only pardon for federal offenses. so if roger stone or alex jones or anybody else on the planet committed a state offense, no presidential pardon would save them. >> this isn't necessarily the minority report where you're pardoned for future crimes as such. chuck, if you were roger stone or alex jones for that matter, would you be worried at this point about your legal jeopardy? >> yes, i would.
now, first off, i would never be alex jones or roger stone or anyone like them, but if i were, yeah, sure, absolutely. what they did might be first amendment protected. but we don't know that yet. and so the very fact that they are under a microscope and lots of folks are being asked questions about their conduct, if i were one of them, that would worry me. >> i stand corrected. exactly. even in a hypothetical world it's not in the same universe, chuck roen and those fellows. thank you. former president trump is stepping back into the spotlight after leaving the white house behind a month ago. so why is the man impeached for inciting the capitol insurrection being welcomed back with open arms? yet former vp mike pence doesn't want to speak at the same event? we put that question to a former aide to mike pence next. coming up on the sunday show, disaster relief for texas. white house senior adviser cedric richmond joins jonathan
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we're back with some of the other stories we're following at this hour including a developing story out of the philadelphia area. one person was killed and at least three others shot at a bowling alley. witnesses say they heard about a dozen shots inside the building. >> it's scary to know that like if we were in there, like maybe we could have been the ones that
got shot or killed. it's insane. and it's such a family oriented place. >> authorities still trying to gather a lot of information. one witness reported seeing a man break a window with a chair to get his children to safety. there's still no word on a possible motive. the investigation in the early stages. prince charles paid a visit to his father prince philip at a london hospital yesterday. the 99-year-old duke of edinburgh and husband to queen elizabeth went to the hospital tuesday and is expected to stay there this week. his illness is not believed to be related to covid-19. and take a look at this. >> 2, 1, we have engine ignition. engine start. and we have liftoff. >> that is the ss catherine johnson, blasting into orbit. the space station supply ship was named to honor its namesake. the black nasa mathematician
featured in the movie "hidden figures." her figures contributed to john glenn's flight in 1962. johnson died last year at 101 years old. former president donald trump is set to make his first public appearance since leaving office last month at the conservative political action conference in florida. he's expected to talk about his second impeachment and the future of the republican party during his speech next sunday. but the divide between anti-trump and trump supporting republicans is only growing. we bring in olivia troye. a former top aide to vice president mike pence. good morning. according to reports out this morning your former boss mike pence declined an invite to speak at cpac. you know him well. what do you read into that? >> well, to be honest, i don't think he's welcome at cpac judging from the list of speakers that i saw. this is quite technically a maga
rally and nothing else, looking at the topics and who is actually speaking at it. there is no room for people who are going to speak to more true conservativism. i would say this agenda is packed with doubling down on the election security or lack of election security narrative that they're going to push. it's packed with the caravans, crisis at the border from what i saw. it's packed with law and law and order again. you'll see that again. violence in the streets and communities. this is going to be a propaganda machine that's going to feed into these networks that are going to give a one-sided, dangerous narrative to communities. >> clearly you do your research. you also read into the tea leaves. there's reporting that trump is vetting maga-supporting candidates for the 2022 midterms, planning to take revenge on colleagues who have crossed him. where does that leave people like you? when we talk about reading the tea leaves you can see where the party is headed again.
people like you, trying to restore the party but you also feel like you're left without a home. >> yeah, it's a great way to put it. what i would say is, i decided to be a part of the republican accountability project to really support the few and far between principled republicans and those that have integrity or what's left of it in the republican party and really have their backs going forward. like i don't -- i don't claim to say that this is any easy task by any means of the imagination. clearly the trump base, these maga people have a hold of the party judging especially looking at what's going to happen at cpac. there is no room for others who actually want to do what's right for the country, who want to set policy. this agenda is not policy making. it's not talking about working class americans that they claim to represent. it's not talking about the middle america. it's not talking about
fundamentals of trade. this is a one-sided, propaganda driven agenda. >> your group is out with a new ad. let's listen to part of that. >> after our capitol was attacked, our representatives in congress were threatened and a police officer was killed, senator cassidy had a choice. he could look the other way and pretend it didn't happen or he could stand up and say, this can never happen again. thank you, senator cassidy, for upholding your oath to the constitution. >> these ads are playing on fox news. they're in billboards in the states and districts these lawmakers represent. but cassidy was censured by his own state party. so what's your goal here? do you think that anything will be learned from these ads? >> the goal is to remind the voters in these districts what was at stake. the fact these people voted their conscience. the fact these people stood up for their constitution, for their oath to the constitution and for what was right for the
future of our country. and i think it's important to publicly thank them to express support for them because they did it with great consequence. they had a choice. they could have done what other republican elected officials did that day. they could have voted to acquit during the impeachment trial. but these are the people that actually cared and said, no, what happened on january 6th is wrong. trying to overturn actual legitimate and fair election is wrong and regardless of what happens to me in my career and going forward in terms of my political career, i am going to take a stand. and that's, you know, that's important. integrity is important. leadership is important. we're seeing a complete lack of leadership failure across the republican party right now with the likes of ted cruz and hawleys of the world and that's fundamentally bad, i think, for the future of our country. >> olivia troye thank you for coming on with us this morning. a moment years in the
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and he's already identified some of his top priorities, if he does get confirmed to lead the justice department, which he says really is struggling and really demoralized after what had endured in these last four years under former president trump. you're also hearing from merrick garland that specifically if he is voted to this post, which we expect people of both parties to support, that he will be the one who actually has to lead prosecutions against some of the people who participated in the deadly riot during the insurrection on january 6th. that's going to be one of his main job descriptions in effect. and he has said that he also wants to dedicate his time in this role to rooting out and prosecuting white supremacists. he made that very clear. and in addition to that, he spoke about his background in civil rights and wanting that to also be a focus of his time, if he is confirmed as attorney general. this is something also that president biden in speaking about why he chose merrick
garland has chosen to highlight and wants him to focus on. tomorrow he'll expect to have that senate confirmation hearing, the first of potentially several days and then a vote is expected. and it is possible that there could be some republicans who vote against him, but the majority we expect republican who is vote against him but the majority we expect will support him in addition to democrats, which means he should get through this process, quite a departure from five years ago on capitol hill. >> he has an aggressive agenda ahead of him. thank you. breaking barriers on the local level. the youngest city to be mayor and serve on the city council. and join ali velshi live from birmingham, alabama, where he will speak with black business owners around frontline
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>> and 36-year-old brandon scott who two months ago became the youngest mayor to run the city of baltimore. they both join us right now. appreciate you guys being here and making us feel a little hold. congratulations for making progress and history. mayor, let me start with you because at 36 you are now the mayor and the youngest mayor of baltimore in 100 years. what did that moment mean for you when you took over in december? >> it meant everything but not for me but for my city, and it felt right. it meant that finally our city was going to have a new leadership here. the war on drugs, policing, all the bad things, seeing my first shooting before i was 10 pushes you when you experience things like that. it changes you. it felt like that all the hard work i put in and the community put in to support me was finally reaching a come major leagues, but it also meant it was time to
get to work, not to celebrate. that's the beginning of the journey because i have that level of responsibility in order to make baltimore an a better city. >> and chi, you were inspired to run for office after the summer's protests, after seeing the death of george floyd. you were participating in protests in new york city. how did that translate into i want to run for office? >> absolutely. thank you so much for having me here. the movement this past summer was led by the youth. we saw a major judgment rising of protests and marches throughout the city to protest against the oppression of black and brown people on a daily basis. as someone that was protesting nearly every single day i felt like the change i wanted to achieve needed to happen in city hall. i wanted to play my role and be the change maker by writing legislation that changes the system and fights oppression and
overpolicing my community faces as well as the entire city. >> mr. mayor, you've gotten a lot of traction because of the "essence" magazine saying you're unapologetically black. they note your hair and your viral moment a year ago when you said in a press conference early you said to someone to pull their mask up. high taxes and property rates, violent crime, some of the worst schools in the country. you ore fairly young. what will you be able b to do to pull baltimore out? >> first and foremost, it's different when you live there. when you think about me being my age, i am the first mayor to actually experience directly all those negative things. it's different when you went to those schools with no heating or air conditioning.
every day of the year i wasn't recognized as human by my own city government. i am not in this for myself. i am not in this to get re-elected. i am in this to build a structure and foundation of how baltimore can be its best self. we are not going to simply police our way through a violence problem that my city has had as long as i've been alive. we're going to violent as a disease. we're going to fight addiction not as something that's just crime to deal with. we've been losing more people from that than gun violence. it's about the total tay about doing the right thing over the popular one even if it means i don't get re-elected. >> chi, last question to you, and i only have about 30 seconds. you told "essence" magazine you don't agree with abolishing or defunding police but talking about law enforcement. what would you do at the local
level? >> i don't agree with those words. but i talk about divesting from m.i.t. i'm running in a district where gun violence is still prevalent. it means a true reallocation of our funds for our public schools and other things. >> chi, you're running in an area i grew up in crown heights. a very gentrified area. i think both of where you guys are living and running are a microcosm of america right now. best wishes for both of you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you for joining us today on a sunday. >> we'll be back next weekend at 6:30 a.m. velshi starts right now. good morning.
i'm ali velshi joining you from birmingham, ael al, one of the birthplaces of the civil rights movement. we pay tribute to this historic city during black history month. it was here that black protesters endured the force of water cannons and felt the wrath of police attack dogs because they wanted equal rights under the law. it was in this city that martin luther king jr. had his famous letter from birmingham yale in 1963 imploring african-americans to stand up and take action rather than waiting for whites to change unjust laws, something kwhilts were never likely to do on their own. today birmingham has been dubbed one of thecoolest cities in america. it has a thriving business district. but these streets were once soaked with the blood and tears of those who gave part of themselves in sacrifice for a better life for