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>> mr. potato head. >> our friends at the recount to take us off the air so gently this friday night. that is our broadcast for this evening and comes with our thanks for being here with us. have a good weekend unless you have other plans. good night. at this hour the senate appears to be back on track to pass the $1.9 trillion covid relief bill after a long delay today. senate democratic leaders reached a deal with joe manchin. he has been holding out but seems to have brought to an end a nine-hour long stalemate in
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the senate. bottom line, nothing much changes from earlier in the day. the resolution is that the covid relief deal will result in $300 a week boosts to unemployment benefits. that is pretty much the way things are going to be. there are terms in the tweaks of the taxability of the benefits. they seem to have broken through. we are expecting the senate to stay in session while they sort it out. the capitol is still surrounded by thousands of national guard troops. two months later, there are
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moments from the attack on the capitol that still stick with you. certain rioters or certain things they did on camera and tape that are seered into your brain once you have seen them. a man in a stars and stripes jacket with trump emblazeened in big letters on the back. the flag jacket there. he steps up towards the police. unloads a fire extinguisher. the police officers are under siege. he chucks it at them as hard as he can. there have been over 300 arrests but that guy is not among them. we now know who he is for sure.
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they reached him by phone and got him to confirm that was me and published a story revealing who he is with the help of a remarkable amateur citizen detective and revealed they have been trying to alert the fbi to his identity for over a months with no discernible results from the fbi's side. it starts with amy. amy, a woman in a online sleuthing community seeking to identify the hundreds of trump supporters who rioted at the capitol. while they were storming the capitol, amy was home sick. she had contracted covid-19. she was getting restless while recovering in isolation. after watching in horror as the
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insurrection unfolded she decided to pour over footage from the attack and trying to track down individual rioters. she worked with the group capitol hunters as they mined through endless photos and videos, trying to bring in order to the chaos. she kept going through videos and photos of the attack. soon florida flag jacket drew her attention and i was locked on to the guy and the jacket. the jacket is so unique. his florida for trump hat offered a strong hint at his home state. another found a video of the florida flag jacket guy from later in the day and he speaks
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to a journalist who is filming him live as cops push the mobs back. shows off a big bruise from his stomach. robert palmer from clearwater, florida. amy sent in a tip to the fbi. then, she waited and waited and waited. that is when ryan riley and justin cook, reporters, got involved. they were able to verify his identity and then they called him. reached by phone palmer confirmed he was at the capitol and gave the live stream
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interview and claimed he had done nothing to justify being struck by the ammunition and that the biden administration was trying to vilify the patriots involved in the riot. i am just trying to live my life right now and added the jacket he wore wasn't anything i had made special. i just bought it in a store. i am just going to leave it like that. i am not getting myself any deeper. i didn't do anything wrong. i am not involving myself anymore and he hung up when huffington post asked him about the fire extinguisher. this is not the first attacker the reporters tracked down. there was a remarkable story
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identifying a man tasering a d.c. metropolitan officer in the neck. that playoff described his experience of being beaten and tasered by the mob where enough that he suffered a mild heart attack. daniel rodriguez, one of the people that tazed him is still at-large. we know what his name is and where he is the fbi received tips about rodriguez, including one from a man he assaulted on video at a los angeles rally. but it wasn't until hours after a huff post interview the tipster heard from a fbi special agent with questions about a man named danny rodriguez.
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so what is going on here? the fbi. we have seen as they have put out all of the requests for information. they keep posting images and zoomed in photos asking the public if you know who the person is. even today. today. the fbi washington field office put out more of these today. this was yesterday. the fbi is speaking information about people enveloped in assaults on officers. a new photo. fbi, seeking information from the public. and listen, actually right now. you watching at home if you recognize these people the fbi would like to hear from you. but it is worth asking questions now as to what the fbi will do
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with the information once they get it. in a few high profile cases it seems like the very credible tips and journalistic work hasn't produced a law enforcement response. robert palmer, florida flag jacket guy who is on video spraying a fire ex tingisher at police officers, he is still at-large. as far as we tell from the latest reporting the fbi hasn't gone to talk to him. and he is one of the people who the fbi put out calls for information on. like, he is one of the people who the fbi put out one of the notices about. he has got a number in the fbi database in terms of which bad guy they are looking for. he is number 246. still, after amy, the tipster with covid out west sent the info to the fbi and after the huffington post's great reporting he is still at-large. guy 246 has been identified.
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he says it is him. he wouldn't be that hard to find now. it is phenomenal reporting. it is fascinating. people that are civilians. random people who are crowd sourcing in an effort to find people that committed serious, violent crimes on january 6th at the capitol attack. why are tipster amy all over this guy but law enforcement isn't? that is why it seems wrong and weird the justice department is not regularly briefing the public anymore on arrests, prosecution and progress in the january 6th investigation. remember, after the capitol attack we were waiting for a public law enforcement briefing and didn't get one.
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for a few days we got briefings from the u.s. attorney at the d.c. u.s. attorney office and potential charges they would face. that has been a long time. they have not briefed the public since january 26th. and there is turnover of an unusual kind in that office that is running the january 6th investigation. the u.s. attorney's office in d.c. such a troubled office, right. the trump attorney general installed his staffers in positions to replace people. they used it to get all of donald trump's friends out of trouble. at least until this week. the u.s. attorney's office in the january 6th investigation was being run by a personal aide to bill barr who was installed under bizarre circumstances until the biden administration took the step of installing their own acting u.s. attorney
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in the office. the d.c. u.s. attorney's office has behaved in a way that requires a public explanation with weird politically driven interference. but that is the office that is handling the january 6th investigation. now we are not getting any explanation of anything from that office about what is going on. we have not heard anything from them over a month now. and listen, there is a lot. there is a lot that is wrong in federal law enforcement and that the justice department that bill barr left there. it is a smoking hole. and it is going to take repair and accountability to figure out what went wrong and to fix them. just today the associated press reports one of the many messes
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awaiting biden's attorney general nominee is what to do about the federal criminal investigation into rudy giuliani. last year they quashed a search warrant sought by federal prosecutes in the southern district of new york. trump appointees quashed that saying no. you cannot get that search warrant. the investigation of giuliani remains open. prosecutors remain interested in pursuing him. how do they clean up the fact that trump appointees blocked it in the past? there remains the open question of how the u.s. attorney in georgia was forced out by the white house after the election when he rebuffed demands he bring bogus voter fraud charges to thwart trump's efforts to overthrow the election in
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florida. someone offered to tell the state of georgia they had to void election results and declare donald trump the winner. donald trump supported that to install that guy as attorney general. it was only staved off by a mass resignation threat by everybody else left in the department. wait a minute. that all happened. not that long ago. and the merrick garland nomination has been held up by senate republicans. and we don't know how he is going to behave when he is in there. but boy is that a mess. that office and the senior level of the justice department interfering in that. that is a disaster.
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how much is that mess with bill barr's treatment of the justice department. how hard does it make to investigate that effectively. people at-large who have been found by online investigators and by journalists who the fbi hasn't gotten around to yet. that does not seem right. there are developments around january 6th today. eric swalwell sued donald trump for inciting the riot. he is suing all of the people
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under an old civil rights law used to combat the klan. if this sounds similar, the second member of congress to sue trump under that law. the first was bennie thompson. anch anti-terrorism law. it might allow the courts to turn up more evidence of people at the political level involved in the events that led to the violence today. tonight we got news concerning how lawmakers might address the security concerns stemming from the attack.
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two weeks after the attack happened speaker pelosi announced the retired general honore would lead a top to bottom review of the security failures that took place at the capitol that day. the "new york times" obtained a copy of the report and it recommends the establishment of a standing quick reaction force at the capitol to respond to immediate security threats. they want to change the process to elect capitol police to activate that type of a unit or call up the national guard. the report, according to the times recommends also that the capitol should have a retractible barrier and fence.
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they could open or shut it like the walk way over a moat, i guess. there are a lot of things happen to get accountability and to make things right after what happened on january 6. but one of the most unnerving parts of all of this is the effort to track down the people that stormed the capitol that day appears to be led in part by journalists and by random civilian internet sleuths doing this in their spare time. finding some of the people accused of some of the worst things themselves, because our nation's top law enforcement agencies have not gotten around to it with all of the help they are getting from the journalists and amateurs. as inspiring as it might be, it is not how it is supposed to go.
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ryan. it is nice to see you and thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> first, let me give you a chance to correct me if i explained any of that wrong. i know you and your colleagues had a lot of interesting interactions with the members of the public doing the work as freelancers. >> i think you layed it out pretty well. not finding the people faster than you did. how do you view that? the fbi seeking the people and not getting them once you and your colleagues and intrepid amateurs have been able to find
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them? you know, it is a bureau made up of normal people and citizens. you know, it is still made of humans and a giant bureaucracy. it does not have necessarily the technological capabilities that even just amateurs can do on their own outside. you just think of the logistics of this. you are imagining a lot of it is happening via e-mail. they have an sbrarnl system and communicate in the bureau. you know, if you look at the scope of this, it is enormous. we are talking about hundreds of hundreds of tips to sort
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through. what ones do you leave out and put behind. the tips we have got, which ones are we going to say we need to focus on this or leave by the wayside. you have these two buckets at once. i think it is really frustrating for these sleuths who put in a ton of work to say that i gave the tip a month ago and i have not heard anything back. you know, the idea if you threw something down a well and never heard about it again or put in a job application and you never
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heard back. you are sitting around, identifying the person. what is happening. what is going on behind the scenes. because of the fbi protocol, it makes it difficult for them to communicate with the public about what exactly is happening. >> although you and your colleagues reporting on this stuff and putting it on the front page at huffington post made it easier for everybody to find the folks even if they are not able to sort through the high quality tips they are getting. do you feel like the slow transition at the department of justice and usual transition at the d.c. attorney's office. do you feel like that and the awkwardness of the transition might be slowing up or hampering
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those? >> yeah. you would have to figure out if that had any impact on the day to day. you know, if you look back even further at what the trump administration was doing earlier. the most comparable case is the j-20 arrests. what should have happened on the capitol on january 6. during the first case during the trump inauguration, a bunch of people out in the street wearing similar clothing and really got the book thrown at them. now they are making sure they have their ducks in a row when everything is going forward.
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that is where the online sleuths come in and put it together in a way that overwhelm the bureaucrats. it is just a matter of getting the connections to the attention of the fbi. sometimes it takes a journalist to say hey. what is going on with this tip. you know, we have seen a lot of local news reports a lot of these cases are built off of when someone went back home to talk to their local tv station and now there is a criminal case against them, built on that interview they did with the
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local news. there are a number of people on that fbi list that went after reporters. >> ryan riley. thank you for your time and thank you and your colleagues for this incredible reporting. it is beautiful work. ryan, thank you very much for your time. >> all right. much more ahead tonight. stay with us. all right much more ahead tonight. stay with us ♪ a pair of jeans that fit just right ♪ ♪ and the radio up ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's. are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas or abdominal discomfort? taking align can help. align contains a quality probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24/7.
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>> he crossed the bridge for the last time. 55 years prior the road held a good portion of his blood. when john lewis and other civil rights leaders were attacked by police. john lewis was nearly beaten to death. he and the other marchers were trying to go from selma alabama for voting rights and equal access to the ballot box. when congressman lewis died last year, mourners lined the streets to watch him go on his final passage on that bridge in selma.
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over the course of his life he led more than 600 marches across that bridge. this year it will be the first of those without john lewis. that will be selma, alabama this weekend. 56th anniversary of that violent police attack on americans protesting peacefully for their right to vote. georgia is locked ins it own modern day crackdown. andrea young was at one of those
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famous walks. this one here was held two weeks after bloody sunday. 10 years old at the time and there with her dad. miss young, it is an honor to have you here with us tonight. >> great. thank you so much for having me, rachel. seems like we have really never ended this war. can you tell us what you are consending with in georgia right now? >> yes. we have been through a tsunami of voting bills. on monday we will find out how many of the anti-voter bills will continue to be live in the legislature. one has already passed.
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a bill that attacks every single way that people vote. we are looking at six others on the calendar now that would do further damage to access to the ballot. >> do you anticipate that the bills will pass and be signed in to law and that they will end up in court or is there enough alarm and push back that some may get stopped? stopped before they become law? >> rachel, we are pushing back with everything that we can. my staff is at the capitol every day, analyzing every bill,
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educating every legislature. aclu members are calling. thousands of them. and so we are fighting. you know, we are seeing success there in pushing back. we know that all f t measures were put in place and they were all fine until 5 million people were successfully using them to elect the candidates of their choice. we will always look at the litigation options. we plan to fight through midnight on the last day. this weekend the all-star game is coming in to town and lebron james is raising up the issue.
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>> history was made today for the dumbest possible reason. today in the senate they were trying to pass the covid relief bill. you could have seen headlines about the fact the senate took a vote on bernie sanders' proposal to raise the minimum wage to $15. all republicans voted against it and 8 democrats as well, news ins it own right. they started to argue in the senate amongst themselves or
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with joe manchin about unemployment benefits in the covid relief bill for nine hours and landed somewhere that is very, very close to where they started but had nine hours of fighting about it. in that time they never technically gavelled shut the vote on bernie sanders minimum wage thing. we just had the official longest vote in senate history, by mistake, for nine hours, for no reason. congratulations. as for the final passage of the bill we were expecting it sometime this weekend with this pointless nine-hour delay. watch this. h this
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in the foreground of the photo. you have the two american soldiers helping the third. he has his hands in his face, balled into fists. the soldier on the left side helping him, helping carry the wounded man with his left arm he is holding his rifle. you see another soldier in the background with his rifle at the well. look at the soldier helping the wounded man on the right side of the fraf. out there on the battlefield with all of them. you can see he is not carrying a gun. not just that he has one and you can't see it. he is in fact unarmed on that battlefield. if you look at his helmet, you can see why. the cross in front. he is an army chaplain. a captain in the army serving in the korean war, catholic priest. his unit was over run by chinese
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forces in fierce fighting in the korean war in november 1950. the white house would later say chaplain kapaun calmly walked through fire in order to provide comfort and aid to his comrades. their position was so hopeless that the men in the unit who were not wounded and who were able-bodied enough to be able to move they were ordered to retreat to avoid being captured and chaplain kapaun elected instead to stay with the wounded men. he and all of them were all taken captive, marched for days on end and held for months in subzero conditions while starving. part of what they were fed was birdseed. the men who survived the ordeal later would fight for years or decades to have the chaplain
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awarded the medal of honor, the highest honor we have as a country because of what they said that he did to protect and to buoy all of the other prisoners to keep them alive through the terrible winter of 1950-51 while they were all prisoners. everything from salvaging bits of tin roofing materials and reshaping them into cooking pots so the men could use those to boil their water. he stole food. he forged food and distributed it. any prisoners found to be hording food, he persuade them to share it. he washed men's clothes and led a sunrise mass in 1951. all of these things, his camrades and fellow prisoners said he did to keep them all going and saved the lives of hundreds of men. chaplain kapaun died in the prison camp, died of exhaustion
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and possibly heart failure. he was only 35 years old. he died in may, 1951. more than 40 years later, in 1993 pope john paul ii declared chaplain kapaun to be a servant of god. a nice complement for any believer. when the pope says that, the first step to potentially being declared a saint by the catholic church in 1993. 20 years after that in 2013 president obama held a white house ceremony to award chaplain kapaun, the medal of honor. >> this year we mark the 60th anniversary of the end of the korean war. a time when thousands of our prisoners of war finally came home after years of starvation
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and hardship and in some cases torture. and among the homecomings, one stood out. a group of our p.o.w.s emerged carrying a large wooden crucifix nearly four feet tall. they spent months on it, secretly collecting fire wood and carving it with the cross and the body, using radio wire for a crown of thorns. it was a tribute to their friend, their chaplain, their fellow prisoner who had touched their souls and saved their lives. father amel kapaun. >> that was 2013. eight years ago. father kapaun being awarded the medal of honor, 62 years after he died in the prison camp. well, today, today, 70 years after he died in the prison
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camp. today the u.s. army announced that his remains have been located. he has been found. a statement today from the army chief of staff "the defense p.o.w. m.i.a. accounting agency announcing korean war medal of honor recipient chaplain kapaun has been accounted for. 70 years after his death. now, i am not a good enough catholic to know how it works in practice, i don't know if they will ever confer official sainthood upon him. but, nationally our country's highest honor is one he already received. now, all of these decades later he has been found today. today. the same pope who put father kapaun potentially on the path to sainthood in the year 2000, he announced plans that he was going to become the first pope
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ever in history to travel to iraq. iraq is the site of some of the oldest christian civilizations on earth. when he planned to visit there were only about 1.5 million christians left in iraq. christian communities had found a way to survive. they were very, very resilient. iraq is full of ancient holy sites for christianity. a place believed to be the birthplace of abraham. abraham is revered by christians and muslims and jews alike. in the year 2000, john paul ii made plans to visit and said he would will be the first pope ever to visit iraq and visit iraq's beleaguered christian communities and visit iraq's holy sites. that trip did not happen because
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saddam hussein said no and he blocked it. the u.s. invaded iraq setting off wave after wave of catastrophe and sectarian fighters. the beleaguered community of christians, now today down to somewhere between 200 to 500,000. and it is not hard to understand why. in the later years of the islamic state in iraq, isis, they used christian churches in iraq as firing ranges. in 2010 al qaeda in iraq launched an attack during mass at a church in baghdad. one called our lady of salvation. they killed 58 people in the church in that attack, including two priests. there is a memorial and mural painted on the walls showing all 58 of the people that were killed that day. there is a mural right next to that on the same blast walls
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showing francis, who is now of course the catholic pope. well, today francis came to iraq. his two predecessors had tried to come to iraq and had tried to be the first pope to visit iraq. pope francis hasn't travelled anywhere in the last year because of the coronavirus pandemic. his first trip anywhere was here, here to iraq. and today he visited that church where all of the dozens of christians were massacred in 2010. tomorrow he will visit the birthplace of abraham and host a interfaith meeting of christians, jews, muslims, all revering abraham in equal measure. pope francis will meet with the senior cleric in islam, seen as a moderating force and the chief cleric. reclusive. he does not leave his home. he does not meet visiting
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dignitaries, no matter where they are from, except for the pope. they will meet tomorrow. that is an important thing. pope francis will visit mosul, used to be a home to a community of 50,000 christians. now about 2,000 left. he will perform an outdoor mass in northern iraq. it has been targeted by multiple rocket attacks. he is there going to do an outdoor mass. saying i come as -- these two events in the news in the same day. they are not connected all that much. but they are a reminder, i think, to sort of stay ready and to be aware of the fact that things that seem impossible can one day just happen. impossibly difficult things. sometimes they untangle. it is never easy or
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uncomplicated when they happen. these are not knots severed with a sword. the pope's visit to iraq is complicated, among others, covid worries. crowds are turning up to see him. the pope himself is vaccinated. he wears a mask in public. he importantly said that refusing the vaccine, if you can get it is wrong and described it as suicidal which is a grave sin in the catholic church. he promoted vaccines and masks and compassion for those living with covid. that said, iraqis do not have the choice to refuse the vaccine. there is zero access at all with not much hope for it on the horizon. it is complicated. the accounting for father kapaun likewise is incredible. after 70 years since his death. it is incredible. it is unconsciousable it took 70 years to recover him. it is never simple. and things that seem impossible
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we do this, together. bounce forward, with comcast business. okay. this is something they learned today that i just think that you should know too. i can't quite believe it. i am assured it is true. i want you to know about it. this might come in handy in your life at had some point. learn it now and then file it away. every once in a while in the tv news business you have to go somewhere random to go and cover a story on the scene. after you have done that over the course of the day, you have to produce a tv show that night. the tv show may or may not include the story you were working on for that night's show. it is a fun thing. it can also be hectic and a little difficult. it means you end up producing a show out of a cobbled dignity random work space that wasn't designed for what we do or
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designed for making tv shows. luckily our company has a bunch of really, really impressive people who are devoted to making that happen. people that can mcguyver any of those types. one of those types, a sort of magician and incredibly sort of magician, incredibly capable field i.t. guy, dan. dan peterson. and dan just got married. and true to the spirit of every shoot i've done with him, he did it in a place i never would have guessed you could do that thing. dan got married at taco bell in las vegas. this is dan on the left and his now husband jitu on their wedding day at a taco bell in las vegas. which is a thing you can do. file this information away. doing things in unexpected places is dan's specialty. mazel tov, you guys. just in case you ever need to know this.
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if you need to get married and you need to go to taco bell, you can get married and go to taco bell.