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welcome, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover in the two hours ahead and a team of correspondents to help us do it. new information on the white house plans for a covid relief bill blitz in the week ahead, as millions of americans are getting their money. increased republican efforts to take focus away from covid and put it on the border. also, the latest efforts by gop legislatures across this country to keep people from voting. and new information on a london murder that has led to a
movement for women's rights. we do want to start with the president and covid as well. tomorrow president joe biden and vice president kamala harris and their spouses are going to start a whirlwind tour fanning out across battleground states to promote and explain the coronavirus relief package. with that i want to go to monica alba who's in wilmington, delaware, for us standing by with all this information. monica, good to see you this afternoon. talk us through some of the first stops of the president and the vice president and what we're expecting from them. >> reporter: well, this is really where you're going to see the policies start to intersect with the politics. you're going to see the president, the vice president, their spouses, cabinet officials, really fanning out all across the country from nevada and colorado to states like pennsylvania and elsewhere to tout what's in the covid relief package. everybody has seen the headlines at this point and the white house feels that most people know about things like the $1,400 direct payments but may
not know about other things that could directly benefit them. that's why you're going to see the white house really go have all of these different kinds of events in a way we haven't seen before. that's because in large part the white house has been very careful because of covid restrictions with domestic travel. they're still going to maintain that awareness in the next couple of days and weeks. they'll have much smaller events. but they say these are opportunities for the president to really do what he does best, and that's to meet with americans and have face-to-face conversations and try to put people in the focus and centerpiece who really stand to gain from the american rescue plan. take a listen to what karine jean-pierre said on our air earlier today about the reasoning for this tour. >> this is a critical moment. this is a moment where we have to make sure that the american people know what's in this plan. and so there's so many things that this bill that meets the moment that we are in, that he's
going to hit the road as well with the vice president, the first lady, the second gentleman, respectively they're going to crisscross this country and talk about the plan, how about how we're going to implement this plan, talk about the funding that's in this plan, the resources that's in the plan that's going move forward even further. >> reporter: all of this is going to kick off, yasmin, with an event at the white house tomorrow where they're going to talk about the implementation of the $1.9 trillion but the white house has not announced who is going to lead that effort. they have said they're going to put somebody in charge much like then vice president joe biden was in 2009 with the recovery act. so it will be curious to see if that goes to somebody like current vice president kamala harris or somebody else. but it is also quite notable here because they admit that they made some mistakes back then in not touting or selling this bill enough, something this president has even admitted. so they're trying to rewrite some of those wrongs and that's what you're going to see here in
the coming weeks with this all-out blitz, yasmin. >> we're seeing that across the board, kind of rewriting the mistakes that they made back in 2009 with that relief bill. monica alba for us, thank you, great to see you. coming up at 4:00 p.m., california congresswoman jackie speier on how the relief bill will impact her constituents as the golden state makes strides in reopening. speaker pelosi is calling the situation along the southern border a humanitarian crisis. now the biden administration is getting fema involved to help, as this issue is gaining steam in congress. a lot of folks are committing to wanting to go to the border and check on what's going on. i want to bring in ali vitali. great to see you. talk about the scope that we're seeing of possible fema assistance here. >> reporter: unaccompanied
minors coming over the southern border right now. last night what we heard was department of homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas asking fema to lend some assistance both in terms of sheltering these unaccompanied minors because space is a problem but also trying to expedite the process for them, getting them out of border patrol custody and into hhs processing. this is all in response to surging numbers. there's a few factors that go into this. of course there are the factors pushing these migrants out of these home countries and the poll factors in terms of why they're coming to the united states, there is a perception that because the biden administration has promised more humane policies that there will be more tolerance for immigrants coming over the border illegally. that is of course not what the bind administration is saying, but in talking to a congressman yesterday who said he went to
one of these migrant facilities, that is not the message many of these migrants are getting. they are thinking the biden administration is in power now, they may try to come over the border. this just presents while there might be a new administration, this is still a system that is vexed and bogged down by just the sheer number of people trying to come into this country. what we're going to see this week is happening on two fronts. things happening at the border and things happening on capitol hill. in terms of what's happening at the border, we've already seen some delegations from the white house going down, surveying the situation. we're going to see house minority leader kevin mccarthy lead a delegation of republicans to texas. that's going to be happening tomorrow. house speaker nancy pelosi responded to that here today basically saying i don't know what mccarthy's purpose is, but i do know that the biden administration is trying to fix the broken system that was left to them by the trump administration. we know and from following joe biden on the campaign trail and during the transition, this was a huge priority for him as he
cobbled together his cabinet but also as he prioritized the ways that he wanted to reverse what his predecessor did. trump ran on a harsh, hard line immigration policy. biden touting more humane policies, but it takes a while to reverse and unravel a lot of the actions that the trump administration took. then in terms of what's happening in washington here, we're going to see the house take up two bills that would offer protection for dreamers and for farm workers. this is different than the comprehensive immigration package that biden is asking the senate and house to undertake. i talked to a democratic congressman yesterday about what we're going to see this week and why this is different from comprehensive immigration reform. why that's vexing too. >> the full immigration reform, we still don't have the votes in the house yet. remember, it's a democratic caucus. but i think we are going to get
there. but once you get over to the senate, can you get 60 votes, which means ten republicans. if you don't compromise, it's not going to work. i think the dream act, daca, guest worker plan have a good possibility. the other will be a little more difficult, full comprehensive immigration reform, even though i support all three of them. >> reporter: look, this is just another reminder of democrats have a big list of policy agenda items that they want to tick through. technically they have majorities in both the house and the senate, but in the senate it is a 50-50 majority. kamala harris is the 51st if she's brought in to break those ties but this is the reality here on capitol hill. there might be a lot democrats want to get done, but it's going to require a lot of bipartisan buy-in first, yasmin. >> that shows how complex the immigration system is in this country and how broken it is and has been for so long. ali vitali, great to see you, thank you.
let's talk new york for a moment. senate majority leader chuck schumer is making it crystal clear that his state's governor should resign. the new york democrat says the allegations of inappropriate behavior surrounding the governor are, quote, an awful crisis. take a listen. >> there are multiple serious, credible allegations of abuse so that governor cuomo has lost the confidence of his governing partners and of so many new yorkers. so for the good of the state, he should resign. >> senator majority leader saying governor cuomo has lost the confidence of many new yorkers. i want to bring in kathy park who's following this investigation for us. great to see you, kathy. talk us through first the latest on where we are with this investigation. >> reporter: hey, yasmin, good to see you as well. the stage has essentially been set for two investigations to move forward. i'll start with the one from the attorney general's office. as you know two outside
attorneys are now on the case looking into the sexual harassment allegations. it looks like there is some movement. the deputies have created a website so more potential victims could come forward with their count and also as early as this week, charlotte bennett could be sitting down with the attorneys for some questioning. and then there is the other investigation with the state assembly judiciary committee, and they will be looking into not only the sexual harassment allegations, but also the nursing home scandal, the undercounting of nursing homes. so there are, as you know, a pair of scandals that the governor is embroiled in right now. right now for both of these investigations, it appears that there is some movement but it's still very early on in the investigation process. >> all right. nbc's kathy park, thank you.
great to see you, kathy. so the disappearance and death of a young woman in the uk has sparked a global outcry over violence against women. hundreds took to the streets today in london protesting action taken by police during last night's vigil for sarah everhard. clashes erupted between those there and police. the men charged with her death, a london police officer. i'm joined by nbc's matt bradley who's been following this for us. matt, talk to us about the tensions right now between the public, the politicians and the police. they have been growing really since this story broke, and now there are calls for london's police chief to in fact resign. talk us through this. >> reporter: yeah. a lot of politicians actually on both sides of the aisle have been very critical of what they saw in those images that you're probably seeing on your screen right now. these protests are continuing today as a matter of fact.
they're calling on -- some people are calling on the met police chief, they are calling on her to resign because of this. she's actually come out just today, just in the past couple of hours and said she will not be leaving. the minister of home office has said that she stands by the met police chief. you know, this is putting the police in a very, very uncomfortable position because they essentially were the ones being faulted for escalating. the police are saying they're simply trying their best to enforce covid regulations, and everybody knows that. this has been going on for a year now, these lockdowns. it's no different here in britain. in fact the problem is still quite acute here. but they said they weren't able to come to an agreement with the organizers of this vigil and so that's why they dispersed the crowd. now, there is a very reasonable excuse for trying to disperse a crowd of people in the middle of
a pandemic but a lot of people are wondering why such force was necessary. four people were arrested. and it's important to note this wasn't really organized as a protest. this was organized as a vigil a couple of miles from where i am right now, which is near where sarah everard was last seen alive. this wasn't meant to be a raucous protest. it wasn't meant to be overflowing with righteous anger. instead if you look at those images, it looks like to a lot of brits that it was the police that escalated it. yasmin. >> some startling images coming out over the last 24 hours or so. matt bradley, thanks for following this for us, appreciate it. still ahead, everybody, the question of quality over quantity. that is the argument from a gop lawmaker who does not believe, vote, all votes matter. it is just the latest verse in a very familiar song from the republicans.
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welcome back, everybody. the manhattan d.a.'s office is beefing up its criminal investigation into potential tax and finance violations by former president, donald j. trump. his former attorney turned public enemy michael cohen has already met with senior officials seven separate times and now the office is asking him for in fact an eighth interview. according to cnbc, fueling speculation that a criminal case against trump could in fact be filed sooner rather than later. we also got a fight brewing in republican-led state legislatures over voting rights. in arizona, for example, state representative john cavanaugh was criticized as being pro jim crow when he told cnn this. democrats value as many people as possible voting and they're willing to risk fraud. republicans don't mind putting security measures in that won't let everybody vote. but everybody should not be voting, he said. arizona is not the only state trying to change voting laws. at least 250 new laws have in
fact been proposed in 43 states across this country. that could make it a lot harder for minorities to vote. jeremy peters has been covering the voting challenges and is joining me now. great to see you, thanks for joining us. it seems like we've got the republicans saying the quiet part out loud over and over again. we had saw some of the sound from matt gaetz. if more people vote, republicans are going to lose. i don't even know what to take away from that. democrats are essentially saying that voting laws are in fact protected by the constitution. stacey abrams herself saying this. let's hear a little bit from her. >> we are watching seven times the number of bills permeating across state legislatures than occurred in 2020 during an election year. we know the u.s. senate much like the u.s. house has the sole responsibility under the elections clause of the u.s. constitution to regulate the time, place and manner of
elections. that is something that we have to accomplish. it would be best if it was done in concert with republicans. >> so, jeremy, where do these challenges to voting rights standing as of now? >> so it's pretty broad. the reason for that is that it has tremendous popular support among the republican party. you're talking about 70% of republicans who believe that the election is stolen. you know, when that happens, it creates tremendous incentive for outside conservative groups, state republican parties and even the national party itself as we've seen to push for what they euphemistically call election integrity. they can raise a lot of money off of it, generate a lot of attention, and that's precisely what they're doing. you took the words right out of my mouth when you said they're saying the quiet part out loud
and now openly acknowledging that what it would do to have more people vote is hurt the republican party. i'm not sure that that's always true, and i think you can look at states where republicans did quite well this year. like in iowa, where they're still trying to restrict voting rights. so it seems, according to the people that i've been talking to, at least some of them, to be a very short-sighted policy, and one primarily aimed at raising a lot of money, because so many republicans believe that trump lied and the election was stolen from him. >> raising a lot of money and bolstering donald trump, it seems. much of this is the love affair the republican party has had now for the last four years with donald trump. in fact he is now being declared the greatest of all it seems by
the alabama legislature. i've just got to read this. they're going to honor the former president as one of the greatest and most effective presidents in the 245-year history of this republic. here's what perry hooper jr. said on fox news, a former state representative. the resolution just basically talks about the greatness of donald j. trump. how he made america great again and how i hope other states will in fact follow suit. >> i'm sure they will. donald trump remains the center of gravity in the republican party and will probably be until he decides that it no longer suits him. i don't know if that's going happen any time soon. i think if the election were tomorrow, he absolutely would run again. that's what i'm told by people around him who are speaking to him but the election isn't tomorrow, yasmin. so we have a lot of time before we really learn what his intentions are. but the bottom line is the party
remains his. his issues, his grievances, his annoyances, all become the republican party's. that's exactly what you saw happen with the stolen election myth. he says it, his followers believe it, republican lawmakers, many of them, know it not to be true but they have to go along with it or risk alienating their voters. frankly what you have right now is a party whose leaders are absolutely terrified of misunderstanding and misreading their voters, so they're really overcorrecting here by pushing these policies to restrict voting. >> yeah, not only do they go along with it, they dig in and really run with it. by the way, jeremy, thank god the election is not tomorrow. might nod that's a nightmare. jeremy peters, thanks so much. great to talk to you. >> thank you. coming up, everybody, the covid crisis one year later. dr. kavita patel will join me with her thoughts on what we
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welcome back, everybody. as we mark the one-year anniversary of covid this weekend, i do want to bring in dr. kavita patel, a fellow at the brookings institution. thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. i want to talk about your recent piece for msnbc.com titled "what covid taught us in a year." you actually explain three areas we need to focus on going forward. i want to go through each one. i first want to start out with the public health infrastructure
that you mentioned, something that you feel as if we need to focus on going forward. talk us through that. >> yeah, thanks for having me on, yasmin. this is building on some incredible work you and your colleagues have done over the past year. public health infrastructure we have learned is woefully undervalued and covid-19 revealed that. the former surgeon general said health care is vital to all people some of the time. public health is vital to all people all of the time. what i mean by that further in my piece is that public health should not be limited to what health departments do. we have seen the intersection of public health and education, public health and transportation, public health and agriculture with food supply. so we have to think about from a federal and local and then even private sector kind of role for public health. what does that mean actually, physically, yasmin? it means that we need to have
acknowledgement that something like a pandemic may only happen once in a lifetime but public health crises like flint, michigan, like what we're seeing on the border and even the fact that one in six children are hungry as a result of the pandemic are public health crises. >> it's such an important point. i also want to talk aboutmental health issues. former first lady michelle obama addressed this as well. let's take a listen to her. >> depression is understandable in these circumstances during these times. you know, and to think that somehow that we can just continue to rise above all of the shock and the trauma and the upheaval that we have been experiencing and feeling in that way is just unrealistic. this is one of the reasons why we need to talk more about mental health because everybody deals with trauma, anxiety,
difficulties in different ways. >> how do we address the mental health issue, dr. patel, in this country and make it more accessible and really erase the taboos surrounding it? >> yeah, the stigma is real, yasmin. if i was to come forward after i felt after i had my children and reveal what i really felt, i may be facing criticism from the other colleagues and medical boards and that's the stigma we need to break but you're asking the right question. how do we make it more accessible? one in three people in medicaid have a hard time finding somebody, like a psychologist or psychiatrist. so we need more accessible infrastructure. i am a primary care doctor. i was not trained to deal with mental health. now 41% of adults are reporting anxiety and depression coming out of covid. we weren't doing a good job
before covid so we need to find it accessible but this gets back to my first point about public health and all other things. we should integrate mental health and education. your children, my children, they're experiencing anxiety for matter what age we are. who better to help them but educators. but they are not paid and they are not taught how to do this. they are learning on the job. third, at the federal level, yasmin, we cannot sever the role of taking care of the body from the mind. we need to integrate that. that should show up in the form of insurance benefits where we're still carving out the benefit design of behavioral health in 2021. believe it or not, that is why we still have a crisis. >> talking about things that we weren't addressing, we weren't doing well with before covid that has been highlighted during covid, another thing is the disparities in health care, black and brown communities being disproportionately affected by covid, not getting the vaccines right now that they
need. you feel as if science information, this is the third one that you talk about in this piece, is something that can help bridge that gap. >> i do. look, i'm being self-critical here and being incredibly honest with you, yasmin. there are so many things that i feel like i could do better but also all of my colleagues. we were public health professionals. i got ten plus years of advanced training. it was hard to communicate why masks matter and how to show people that it's not political. dr. fauci today on "meet the press" was talking about how he's hoping that former president trump can show more support for vaccine because we're seeing polls that show trump supporters don't want the vaccine. that is exactly why i think science -- we need to teach people, including adults, yasmin, what does fact versus fiction mean. what does evidence versus myths? we need to talk about it in plain language, using a lot of complicated terms like efficacy and things that are not
accessible to people in language, that's exactly how i think we got here in the first place. >> yeah, i actually asked on air last weekend, and i thought to myself should i be saying this, why we're even using the word "efficacy" because now people are focused on this and also finding allies in certain communities to communicate much of this language so people can trust who they know and the people that they look like. dr. kavita patel, thank you as always. great to see you on a sunday afternoon. one year after covid hit the united states pushing doctors, nurses and hospitals to the brink, nbc news medical contributor dr. vin gupta headed to the leading hospital in the seattle area that essentially became ground zero for when covid first started. >> when covid 19 reached u.s. soil in early 2020, seattle was the first city hit. >> this was ground zero. harborview, literally, seattle. >> yes. >> how scary was that for you? >> it was so surreal, like one
of those movies, outbreak. >> team members at harborview medical center were unofficial guinea pigs. among the first frontline workers in the nation faced with the daunting task of boosting oxygen levels and treating the ravaged lungs of covid patients. >> we were all very surprised on how quickly hour patients turned the corner the wrong way. >> these patients were on high levels of oxygen and looked okay for a minute until there was a rapid deterioration and you were at the point where you had to intubate them and put them on life support. >> at the beginning of the pandemic critically ill covid patients were often immediately put on ventilators. now the new approach is not so fast. doctors first looked for noninvasive ways to boost oxygen levels, including administering medications. if a ventilator becomes necessary, proning is key. that's the intermittent turning of the patient from back to belly to improve oxygen levels. >> the sooner you prone them,
there's a better chance of getting off the ventilator. >> it kind of helps them open up their airway more and expand their lungs more. we're proning them sooner and sooner. >> teams have gotten faster at flipping the patient. >> it used to take it 50 minutes and now it's 15 to 25 minutes. >> we've devised a way to do it quickly. just like anything, practice makes perfect. >> and there are the heartbreaking lessons teams have learned these past months. >> we are the ones who are holding their hands, taking them off the breathing machines while their family is crying through zoom. so it's -- it's very emotionally challenging. >> i feel like we've put a lot more bodies in body bags this past year than i probably ever have in my career. you didn't think you'd ever get used to something like that, but after a while, you show up and you realize, oh, that's routine. >> hundreds of covid patients later, staffers are drained but they're also hopeful. >> are we better at caring for
patients that are critically ill than we were at the beginning? >> i think we're much better, yeah. i think we're better at recognizing the signs of deterioration of patients and to catch that at a critical time when we can intervene. i think our therapies can make a big difference. knowing that the vaccine is out there, it helps us looking to the future of getting somewhere back to normal. >> thank you to dr. vin gupta for that. so this weekend americans started receiving some of those checks and started making plans on how to actually spend that relief money. as those checks are hitting more and more bank accounts. the white house is launching its covid relief tour. vice president harris will go to las vegas. with that i want to bring in deepa who's following this for us. great to see you this afternoon. talk to us about what folks
there think about this covid relief package. >> reporter: hey, yasmin, good to talk with you as well. we spent the weekend speaking with workers and small business owners asking them how this stimulus package really does help them on the ground. las vegas is a metro area that has been hit hardest by the economic fallout from this pandemic. the unemployment last april was as high as 30%. this is obviously a city that runs on tourism, runs with the service industry. that unemployment number has improved in the last year, but even just looking at the tourism rates here, yasmin, from last january to this january, the numbers are down more than 60%. so this is really a city of workers that are reeling from the economic impacts of all of this. we spoke yesterday with one woman named mary ann. she's a single mother, an immigrant. she'd worked at the strat hotel and casino as a buffet worker for the past 14 years. she lost her job last march and has not gone back to work.
and this is how the impact of these economic issues have been impacting her. take a listen to what she told me yesterday. >> the saddest part is 16 years old. she works at an amusement park. she works there and she asked her boss to give her more hours. the boss asks her why. because i want to help my mom because, you know, she's unemployed right now. i mean she's in school. she's not supposed to be out there working. >> reporter: yasmin, it's just really heart breaking to listen to mary ann's story there. this is the story of a lot of workers here in las vegas that tell me that the money from the stimulus package is helpful, they're grateful for it, but in many ways it's money already spent. mary ann is using the money from
her check to pay off her car so she can use that car to drive to the food pantry in order to feed her family and her neighbors. yasmin. >> yeah, these aren't folks getting relief checks that can go out and spend a lot of money. they're trying to make up in a way for lost time the money that they didn't have over the last year because of lost jobs or lost wages. thank you, great to see you. still ahead, everybody, pop culture in the spotlight. the hosts of slate's gabfest are joining me to answer all of the questions about trending topics. >> what? who is having that conversation? ? t e doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi.
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they released reports that reads in part all the reports are inaccurate. we are working through some things. lopez and rodriguez have been engaged for two years but have had to postpone their wedding twice now due to the covid-19 pandemic. so we are taking a break as you can guess from politics in this week's edition of "in the spotlight." slate's podcast gives us a weekly analysis on culture highs and lows. in its latest episode they break down prince harry and meghan markle's bombshell sitdown with oprah. part of the conversation focused on someone who escaped. >> oprah got a lot of praise after the interview for being such a great interviewer and she is in many ways. she couldn't get the person who was concerned about the baby's skin tone out of meghan so she
went after harry. she's incredibly adroit and the reason she's the woman you choose for this interview. she let them off the hook. the queen, the queen, she's so great. and then they were like the family never protected us. well, who's in charge of the family and the whole country. are you not mad at all with the queen for not getting the family in line? >> joining me are two of the co-hosts of the podcast, dana stevens and julia turner. welcome to you both, guys. thanks for joining me on this. julia, i actually thought this same thing as i was watching this interview. first of all, i could not tear my eyes away from this interview. everything was a bombshell. everything that came out of their mouths was really a bombshell. but i thought to myself, i mean, that is the queen after all. it seemed as if both harry and meghan went somewhat soft on her. i couldn't quite figure out why. >> yeah. i mean, first of all, we need to
stipulate oprah is amazing and the conversation was extraordinary television. like there was no filler, as you said. every single thing they said was a bombshell. but after i picked my jaw up off the floor, i realized i didn't think she had gotten meghan and harry to say anything they had not planned to say going in. they obviously chose a venue for their big revelation for finally having a public conversation about their split with the royal family. but i don't know that oprah managed to knock them off script and she kind of let them attack the royal family but let the queen off the hook. >> yeah. it was really interesting. and i wonder, dana, if there was any thought from harry and meghan when they chose to do this interview about diana's interview so many years ago. if in fact they felt as if they wanted to use the same medium to
get their message out, their viewpoints out as harry's late mother did as well. >> yeah, people talked a lot about the lineage between the diana interview, you know, the bombshell diana interview after her divorce from charles and this one. it does seem like harry was following in the lineage of his mother in some ways and using the charisma of meghan markle. he's the son but she has the star quality and charisma and that ability to just really work the press in a way that for the british press has been very maddening. she's seen as this manipulative, duplicitous person. but sitting down with oprah, someone she's comfortable with, you saw her open up. i agree with julia that there is one place that this interview always seemed to be pushing toward and never got to which is, yes, taking things to the top. asking about the queen's responsibility in this and
obviously the follow-up question is what do you all think of the institution of the monarchy itself which they call the institution and the firm and talk about in this very treacherous sounding way. something that "the crown," the fictionalized series has also hit on. the idea that this is a very damaging institution for lots of people and is really holding up this extremely heart initial and antiquated privilege. it never quite went there, the interview. oprah never said should the monarchy exist and maybe that's just a third rail that she can't touch. >> and i just wonder, what would harry really say to that, considering the fact that he is a part of that institution, right, in a way. to say that it really shouldn't exist anymore. it's archaic, it's done, with it shouldn't continue on in the uk. julia, let's talk about tonight. let's talk about the grammys. trevor noah essentially saying it's not going to be pandemicy, and i quote.
what are some of the predictions that you can make for the grammys this evening? >> i'm going to predict that it is going to be a little pandemicky. there's a new producer, replacing the long-time producer of star-studded productions. they told "the l.a. times" it's going to be more intimate. they have multiple outdoor stages. they are going to be given out by workers at live music venues that have struggled. so new york's apollo theater, from the troubadour in los angeles. so that sounds a little pandemicky to me. also winston said that he expected the ratings down 30% to 60%. there's been a run of pretty terrible awards show ratings during the pandemic and preceding it so he's trying to pad his landing a little bit, i think. >> and it's weird to think about the fact that the ratings would be down for awards shows, considering the fact that we've all been home and watching a
heck of a lot of television. it begs me to ask as to whether or not, dana, like awards shows are kind of antiquated, right? is there going to come a point at which awards shows are no longer, because of what we experienced over the last year -- also you think about the suffering that we've experienced in this country for so long. are we still going to be the kind of country that's looking forward to holding up on a pedestal, right, these types of award shows? >> yeah. i mean it was honestly before the pandemic came along, awards shows have been at a steady decline of viewership and had a lot of backlash about the thing that they're just a back patting privilege club. i can see the pandemic worsening that. at the same time, this is going to be an unusual oscars, which i know more about as a movie critic. it's going to be an unusual oscars because of the pandemic and how much longer it took for all these movies to open. so some smaller movies, you know, movies that might have been under the radar indies in a
normal year are getting lots of oscar attention and to me that seems like an exciting thing for the industry. >> i do think -- >> thank you both guys, really appreciate it. by the way, you can tune in and subscribe to slate's culture gabfest podcast wherever you get your podcast. new episodes drop every single wednesday. let me know what podcast you love. send me your suggestions. we're doing this every single weekend. we'll be right back, everybody. y n . versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein.
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welcome back, everybody. fox host tucker carlson has been widely condemned for his recent sexist comments about women in the military, but now it's a group of marines that called him out that are being forced to apologize. in reaction to his comments about what he called the femininization of the military after debut of uniforms better for pregnant soldiers, the second marine expeditionary force sent out this tweet aimed at carlson. but the group is now in fact apologizing after it was criticized for delving into politics and for insulting a commenter. so far no apology, though, from carlson for his sexist remarks. not surprising. winning is the best revenge for one group of girls in oklahoma. the norman high school girls basketball team won the state championship saturday ending their season 19-0. it came after this ugly racial incident involving an announcer at one of their previous games.
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