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i am who i am today. i would tell her thank you. >> that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc. the johnson & johnson vaccine, going back in arms. how have u.s. states resume this single those stop shot after a pause for safety concerns. will americans take it? >> the u.s., racing to send aid to india, amid a catastrophic covid surge. the rising death toll, forcing the country to perform mass cremations. plus, >> we are demanding that we have transparency, and accountability. >> we want the body camera
footage made public. >> new demands to release body camera footage after the shooting death of andrew brown junior in north carolina. the sheriff whose deputy fired the shots, now joining the calls. >> and more protests in ohio, in solidarity with macaya brian, as we learn of new police shootings in tennessee and virginia. the shocking body gamma footage ahead. >> good morning, everybody. it is sunday, it will 25th. good to be with you, i am lindsey reiser. >> and i am derek, in for kendis gibson. we are live from msnbc headquarters in new york. we have a team of reporters and analysts following the latest for you, right now. with you, experts, half of the states in the u.s. have resumed johnson & johnson vaccinations. but those shots will now come with a warning, as officials say, they are pushing for younger americans to get vaccinated. >> msnbc is starting us off with a vaccination megasite in rockaway, new jersey, with the latest. cory, good morning. >> hey guys! good morning. this site will help vaccinate
younger people moving forward here in the state of new jersey. and with the johnson & johnson vaccine, what we are learning is that more and more states are going to resume use of the vaccine. there are some states that have not said that they will bring it back yet. there are a number of reasons for that. one of which is that the demand is currently outpacing the supply in some states. what we are seeing is that some people who wanted to get vaccinated did, early on. there are still some waiting to get vaccinated, but they will as well. so, then you have this large group left of some who are more hesitant to get the vaccine. it is leading states to have to get more creative, to have to really get their numbers up to achieve that herd immunity between 70 and 80% of their populations vaccinated. and what a large group that is going to be a key role in that is younger people. so, states like new jersey are rolling out these big programs to get all their highschoolers, 16, 17, 18 years old vaccinated from here on out. according to the cdc, only 1% of 16 and 17-year-olds are
vaccinated at this point. and nih director you recently spoke about how crucial this role is. the younger folks will play in this next step. listen in. >> people have not begun to realize how significant the long term consequences of covid can be. even for young people who have had a mild illness, many of them, months later are still struggling with fatigue, sleeplessness, brain fog. unable to go back to the way they were. you do not want that! this vaccine prevents you from getting sick in the first place. it also prevents that long covid problem. there are so many reasons here. >> all right. speaking about the larger role of vaccine hesitancy, that plays in this community when it comes to younger folks as well as the rest of the population, saying that this next group, these younger people who have yet to be vaccinated will play out important role for the rest of the community.
it is not just about yourself. that still applies for folks who have any sort of hesitancy. we do know, 20% of the population still do not want to be vaccinated. so one thing that could help get those herd immunity numbers up for these states this morning, is pfizer, seeking emergency approval for folks, younger people aged 12 to 15. that looks like it could be the next step, now that we have vaccine approval for those 16 and. up lindsey? >> so important to remember everybody. thanks to younger people, they are healthy, they can get through it. by the doctor's advice, so important to remember. anyone is susceptible to. this cori coffin, thank you so much. let's dive deeper into the vaccines, now. we are bringing in an emergency room physician at the university of texas, health in san antonio. doctor, thank you for being with us. good morning. >> good morning. >> so half of the states have now resumed use of the j&j vaccine after this 11-day pause. could still take a few days for sites to get it because of logistics, but now this will
come with a warning. who should heed that warning? >> yes, it is going to be women of childbearing age. so, 18 to age 50. i think it's a good thing we took this pause and now we have these white recommendations. whenever i am in the emergency department sending a patient home with a certain medication, we talk about the risks of that medication, the benefits of that medication. things they need to watch out, for him to come back to the hospital if they have. it that will be the conversation that me and my colleagues will have on a day-to-day basis. >> is that something, doctor, that i need to ask my doctor about? i am within that age range, i already have the pfizer vaccine. but if i have not, yet dwelling to ask my doctor, should i try and seek a pfizer or moderna? >> absolutely. it is a decision you should make with your doctor. also, they will know your medical conditions, things that might put you at a higher risk for developing these conditions. so it will be on a person to person basis. now that we have this information, we had have discussions like, two weeks ago when we did not know this was a
phenomenon that was happening. >> doctor, how concerned are you that this pause might of irreparably damage the j&j shot's reputation? people might think that's their only option to say, i don't know enough about this, i know they stopped giving it. i am not touching it? >> yes, it would be nice for the health community to say that it has not affected it at all. there will be some hesitancy, that will be increased because of this pause. i think that we kind of approach it on a case to case basis. if there is hesitancy around this vaccine, then we talk to these patients, get them link into getting the pfizer or moderna vaccine. it is a conversation that we have. it is not something we go into with a closed mind. there are risks, even though they are rare. we need to discuss those risks of those patients. >> i think you give it to us straight, doctor. i love, it let's continue on with the big debate. the tsa mask mandate continues in a little over two weeks. airline leaders say they want it to be extended. right now, it is unclear what will happen after may 11th. that raises a lot of questions about how much longer we will have mandates.
a lot of people are saying, isn't it time to ditch this mask when i am outside? >> yes, i think those are valid questions now that more and more of us are getting vaccinated. we do know that the covid-19 transmission rate outside is less than 10%, when you compare that to transmission rates indoors, those are 19 times higher. so if you are outside, in a non crowded environment, it is okay to not wear a mask. if you are inside, amongst family members, close friends who are all vaccinated, it is okay should not wear a mask. then again, if you are inside with strangers, you don't know who is vaccinated, or a crowded environment, wear a mask. i tell my patients, when in doubt, wear a mask. it will not harm you in any way, it will only protect you. >> doctor, i want to ask for the situation in india. it seems like is ground zero of the pandemic right now, they have begun mass cremations, they have the world's worst covid surge. people there are relying on makeshift cremation sites in places like parking lots. there are in calls for the u.s. to share some of its vaccines with countries like india. should we be doing that?
do we need to do more to help other countries around the world at this point? >> yes, what is happening in india is a true humanitarian crisis. it is honestly hard to watch the images, the numbers, the graphs just to not do it justice. we need to be doing everything we can to help them. that includes sending them oxygen, ventilators, medical personnel, and those vaccines you are talking about. we have somewhere between 30 and 40 million astrazeneca vaccines here in the u.s.. they are approved abroad, but not approved in the united states. unlikely to you, stomach given we have other options. so those vaccines need to be sent, there amongst other resources as well. >> and doctor, i mean, the vaccines are sort of a longer term solution, right? if you sent a vaccine today, you have someone immune in a month. does this need a rapid, kind of worldwide response to get ahead of this? the pandemic that continues, in a country of one billion people, is a way to fuel more variance, to have this go much longer, is it not? >> exactly, you are right.
essentially, india needs to shut down right now. they need a shutdown, basic medical supplies like oxygen, they need nurses. they need doctors. they need measures, help from all of us. that includes the united states, china, russia, everyone. like you mentioned, there are many causes for why this is happening in india. one of those is that india variant. we need to make sure we control that variant, and also that a new variant does not arise because of so much virus replication there, that might render some of our vaccine is not as effective. so this is a mission that has a moral backing behind, it is also a selfish thing, to make sure we do not get infected down the road as well. >> makes sense. doctor owais durrani, thank you. coming up at seven, matt bradley will have more on the devastation in india. our partners at sky, we're at one of those mass cremations sites. i want you to see this video, but i will warn you, it is disturbing. >> they simply can't cope. and this is not one of the
official funeral sites. this is an ad hoc one. they are bringing in the would, as we wait to prepare for more casualties coming in. and this is on top of an official sight, remember. many of these people do their feel that they are represented in the country's statistics. >> hard to watch, indeed. it is just unimaginable, really, what is happening in that country. some people are also resorting to doing that in their own backyards. 7 am, we will have more on that. also coming up, as demand for police reform grows, and north carolina sheriff is vowing to go to court to get the body camera footage released. this is all in the shooting death of andrew brown junior. we will have a live report. >> later, on the sunday short, representative karen bass joins jonathan kaye part to discuss the george floyd justice and policing act. plus, representative val demings joins to represent the clash with her and representative jim jordan on tuesday, over the covid-19 hate
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where there is mounting pressure from activists and city officials released body cam footage, involving the fatal shooting of andrew brown jr.. there were signs this morning, that could happen soon. >> this comes on the heels of protests over that incident, and another one in ohio. the fatal shooting of 16-year-old macaya bryant. msnbc's chris polon is in columbus, ohio with the latest on that. and nbc's kathy part is following the developments out of north carolina. good morning to both of you. kathy, let's start with you. how long before the public sees what led up to the shooting, or learns more, for that matter, of the shooting death of andrew brown junior? >> well, good morning to you lindsay. based on what we heard yesterday, it could be very soon.
we heard from both the city manager as well as the mayor of elizabeth city north carolina and the sheriff in that community. and they all say they are taking formal steps, as early as monday to release that body camera footage. as you know this comes amid mounting pressure to do so. mr. brown was shot and killed on wednesday. there have been a lot of protests on the ground. but here is a little bit more on the sheriff's message that he posted yesterday on facebook, take a listen. >> we want the body camera footage made public. that's why i asked the bureau of investigation to confirm for me that the releasing of the video, would not undermine their investigation. once i get that confirmation, our county will file a motion in court, hopefully, monday, to have the footage released. >> now, law enforcement up into this point, they have released very few details on the
shooting. but we do know that at the time, deputies were attempting to serve a search arrest warrant on felony drug related charges. so that is all that they were really able to disclose. we've been heard a little bit more on audio dispatch, saying shots were fired, and it appeared that one of the bullets landed in mr. brown's back. we also know that seven deputies have been placed on administrative leave, three other deputies have resigned. we are told that this was not related to the shooting, lindsey? >> and chris, protests continued this weekend in the fallout of the shooting death of macaya bryant. what does that community want to see happen? >> hey, garrett. i think they are looking for two things. first of all, answers and some outside scrutiny. and just first of all about what exactly happened tuesday afternoon, and whether it was the appropriate outcome that led to macaya bryan's death. and then also, some outside scrutiny, maybe a federal probe
into the practices of the columbus police department, when it relates to using deadly force. remember, this incident happened tuesday afternoon, coincidentally right around the same time the derek chauvin trial was ending in minnesota. 9-1-1 calls, called people to this house in columbus, an officer pulled out, nicholas reardon, who has been identified by local police, and rear in, as police describe the body cam video that they have released, notice that ma'khia bryant appeared to be about to attack another girl with a nice, and that is what he opened fire and killed her. i spoke with an organizer of one of the several protests that took place yesterday, and that protester said that people here just have a lot of questions, ideas about other things maybe could have happened to de-escalate that situation. >> you wanted to get someone out of the situation, there is
a taser. i mean, i feel like his intentions were too killer because he shot not once but four times and it was just, there were so many other options that could have happened. >> now, the police obviously in describing the video, showing the body cam video have said, that in columbus, generally it is practice that the police department, any police officer is allowed to use deadly force if he or she believes that either their own life is in danger, or another person's life is in immediate danger. they seem to be making that connection without, you know, the full, formal investigation being over, that this is apparently what nicholas reardon saw, and took action on. this is under investigation, not by the city now, but by the state's highest investigative body, the bureau of criminal investigations. they say it will be sometime, they are doing interviews with everybody involved to determine whether the shooting, you know, was justified, as they say, when it comes to these matters. but the people have been protesting, they are also
looking for some sort of federal probe into the practices, because this has been a long running thing here in columbus. there were incidents that happened late last year, that led to the police chief at the time, resigning. back in the nineties, the clinton administration sued the city of columbus and its police department for civil rights violations. so, they say this is a systemic problem that used to be addressed. >> all right chris pollone and kathy park, thank you both. >> joining us now is cedric alexander, an msnbc analyst, and a former member of obama's policing task force. cedric, good morning. good morning. >> let's first get your reaction to the reporting on the shooting of andrew brown junior. one thing i can't wrap my mind around is why this body camera footage has not been released yet, while we have not learned more enough about what led up to the shooting, why the sheriff says he needs to ask the bureau of investigations and whether it could impact anything? >> well, what happens in a lot of states, depending on how reports are written,
particularly around body worn cameras, usually draws some friction between when that video can be released, and to the public viewing of it. and, it has an appearance here, from everything that we can gather, everything in the reports that i have read, is that a kind of went away here, in which this investigation is being taken over by the state. but here is what is critically important in the time you have an officer involved shooting, when there is a great deal of questions, particularly in this case. the sooner that video is released, the sooner the public has an opportunity to look at the video for themselves, someone would have an opportunity to explain it to them, up to this point, what they know in this investigation. it will certainly help relieve a lot of tension in the community. if you look at where we are, american policing at this moment, how people are feeling, the number of incidents that have occurred, from one day to the next, it breeds suspicion. so, it becomes very important,
as sheriffs continue on his efforts to try and push this state to release that video as soon as they can. that is hugely, hugely important. but here again, in a very different jurisdiction, they have different laws, policies around how that governs to release the video. >> okay, i want to ask you about new body camera video out of tennessee, that shows a national police officer, fatally shooting a black man, who had knives on him during a traffic stop. we will show the video, but we first want to warn our viewers, it is graphic. >> hey, stay in the car! drop the knife! okay, given their, 32, 36. he has a knife. get out of the car! get out of the car, drop the knife! drop the knife! >> what are you doing? >> what are you doing, drop the knife. i do not want to shoot you. i do not want to shoot you. okay, he has a knife. he was a room, he has a knife,
drop it! >> so, obviously again, we froze right before that instance, there of that shooting. but investigation is now underway, surrounding all of the circumstances here. but, is it important to distinguish between cases, maybe and what we saw for example, in minneapolis with george floyd, what we saw with daunte wright, they are also different. what do you see with these cases before making a judgment? >> clearly, these cases are happening, or have the appearance of happening very frequently, night after night, day after day or every other day. so when we think about some of the issues, certainly that have surrounded policing, and mistrust by the community, it gets to a point where people then begin to see all of these shootings as the same, because there is one common theme in all of them. the subjects happen to be black or brown. but each one of these cases truly has to be judged
separately, up on its own merit, on its own set of circumstances. that way, it becomes important that this video, when these incidents occur, that video is released at an appropriate time, certainly in a timely manner, so that all precautions can be taken to assure the public that a proper investigation is underway, it is going to be seen, it is going to be investigated by those at a separate entity, outside of that agency that was involved in that event. but yes, to your question, each one of these events certainly has to be judged individually. the problem over here, is that we are seeing these continued shootings of people of color, which is creating a great deal of concern, pause that has to be addressed in this country. >> cedric alexander, we appreciate your expertise and your ability to speak with us this morning, thank.
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one of those democrats, democratic arizona chairwoman. i want to get your reaction to former president trump demands for the national guard to be called in. what is he talking about here, for people who have not been following this closely? >> wow. well, our reaction is that, himself and so many individuals well a very vocal group of people as long as they believe that the election was stolen, that includes our arizona state senate president, and republicans in the arizona state legislator who are moving forward with an audit of the maricopa county elections of 2020. frankly, it is very nerve racking, just to know that our ballots, 2.1 million ballots, are on the hands of people who believe that the election was stolen. that is why the democratic party, dropped a lawsuit.
because we want to make sure, that if this is moving forward, which it should, not that there are procedures, there are trainings and policies. >> election officials in the courts, obviously, have found no merit to the allegations of widespread voter fraud. certainly there, in maricopa county. is this recount about 2020, or are these republicans trying to set the stage for the midterms in 2022? you have a big senate race coming up in the midterms over there. >> absolutely. well, there are two things. absolutely, they want to find a problem with our election system. look, this is a solution, looking for a problem. this has gone beyond their temper tantrum, that the election was stolen. they have gone so far as to violate arizona law, as they are moving with this audit. and on the other hand, they are also introducing bad voting
restriction bills, to make sure it is harder for people to vote. so right now, it is a combination of making sure that they are hanging on to that narrative, that the election was stolen, and at the same time, working to make sure that it will be harder for people to vote in next year's election. frankly, this election, this audit we see in front of us, it is also a form of voter suppression. when you make somebody believe that their vote might not have been an authentic vote, it might not have been an authentic vote. >> well raquel, let me challenge you on. that is there not an upside? i understand you don't want this audit to go forward, but you are confident the results will be the same at the other end of. it may be, is there a silver lining, that this might restore, perhaps even for some people on the right who don't think this election was illegitimate, it might restore that sense of legitimacy for them? to say fine, we challenge this in every way we could possibly think, of joe biden is still
the president, mark kelly is still the senator. it will lock in the results for people who doubted them? >> well, the results have been locked in. arizona has a law about how audit procedures move forward. we passed two audits. the additional audit was passed by the board of supervisors, that was an additional audit already. we need to leave this aside, really leave in peace, the fact that joe biden won the election. and also, make a point that as we move forward with this audit, it is just auditing the top of the ticket. nobody is auditing the close races in the arizona house of representatives, or in the senate. so it is very clear that they have an intention to create a mistrust with our voting systems. so that is why we are fighting really hard to make sure we protect arizona voters.
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than trump at this point in their administration. that could spell trouble for him, as he gets ready to prepare, to push through some big packages in congress. but, you know, if you look deeper into this poll, he has about a 64% approval for how he has responded to the coronavirus pandemic. you see more than a 58% approval for some of his proposals, like raising the corporate tax rate. so that's great news for him there. he is still running into challenges when it comes to border issues. for all of the issues he was pulled on, that is where he is ranking the lowest right now, just around 34%. >> lauren, i know those numbers themselves are new this morning, but does the white house feel like they could use the president's popularity to push some of these big ticket items he's working on in congress? the infrastructure package, what's the president's popularity, does it unlock with programs for them? >> definitely, garrett. you have seen the
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david, good morning. >> good morning. how are you all? >> we're so good. thank you for being with us. this is a very serious topic here. you made this safety pouch and you did so before the murder of george floyd. did you or someone you know have a run-in here that led you to create this? >> you know, i definitely experienced this before when i've been in a car with my parents or my sisters. and all those encounters wasn't particularly scary or anything. you could just see how nervous they were doing these interactions, constantly having to make sure the officer was aware of what they were reaching for and when they were reaching for the information so this kind of all helped prompt me to create the safety pouch. >> so inspiring and incredible. i read in a local newspaper that talked to you that you actually created this in 2019 because you had a teacher and your intro to entrepreneurship course that said we want you to invent something that can bring about
societal change. do you feel like this is happening right now with your product? have you got any feedback? has anybody used it? >> so we have received overwhelming feedback from people from everyday drivers to law enforcement to politicians to celebrities who have all mentioned, you know, when using the safety pouch, they feel much safer. they feel they have a bit more control. police officers, it makes them feel safer during these traffic stops because they aren't worried about drivers actively reaching. it's making the traffic stops quicker and more efficient. it helps facilitate these interactions between drivers and law enforcement to be safer, more efficient. >> a colleague of yours took a deep dive into racial bias during traffic stops. i want to play for you some of what he found, david. listen to this. >> studies have found that black drivers are far more likely to be stopped by police than white
drivers. once they're stopped, black drivers are twice as likely to be searched as white drivers are. black americans are over three times more likely than white americans to be killed by police, according to a study by researchers from harvard's th chan school of public health. those searches are less likely to yield illegal drugs or contraband than searches of white drivers. >> you took this kind of thing into consideration as you were developing this product. what do you think about this fact that you even needed to create this? the pressure that's on african-american drivers to keep themselves safe in a situation where you're just interacting with police. what does that say about policing in this country? >> you know, it's a sad fact that this product is necessary. you know, i hope for a day where it is obsolete and no longer needed but we first have to address policing culture as a whole. address how officers engage within the communities they serve. this creates that barrier for
both officers and the members in the communities they serve to give a bit more control in a situation and to help make the situation less intense. >> david, i think we all share the sentiment that it's a shame you had to do this. but we really appreciate you coming on and talking about your experience with us. >> thank you for having me. and we begin a new hour of msnbc right now. first up on msnbc -- a north carolina sheriff set to ask a court to release body cam footage in the shooting death of andrew brown jr. meanwhile, we have body cam footage from a new police-involved shooting in virginia. all of this against the backdrop of the derek chauvin verdict. congresswoman maxine waters reacting to that conviction. >> it was a relief to get this verdict. many people were celebrating. i was not celebrating.
i am always cautiously optimistic. >> plus, the johnson & johnson vaccine is back in circulation. half of u.s. states resuming the single dose shot after a pause for safety concerns. and overseas the u.s. racing to send aid to india amid a catastrophic covid search there. the rising death toll forcing the country to hold mass cremations. >> a new biography on house speaker nancy pelosi spill something juicy secrets and insight into the speaker's background and some pivotal moments of her career. we'll be joined by the author to talk about those never-disclosed details coming up. i'm garrett haake in for kendis gibson. >> i'm lindsey reiser. we have a team of reporters and analysts following the latest right now. we'll begin in north carolina where demonstrators in elizabeth city marched for a fourth day yesterday calling for the release of this body cam footage in the officer-involved shooting death of andrew brown jr.
>> new signs that that video could be made public soon. nbc's kathy park has more on this, this morning. good morning. >> good morning. it has been four days since the shooting death of andrew brown jr. and the community and his family want to know where is that body camera footage. the sheriff says he's taking formal steps to release it. >> no justice -- >> no peace. >> what's his name? >> andrew brown. >> reporter: calls for justice and growing pressure to release body cam footage after deputies shot and killed andrew brown jr. >> we are demanding that we have transparency and accountability. >> reporter: elizabeth city officials will file a formal request with the sheriff's department monday requesting the footage be turned over to them and the public. >> and if denied, the request is to be forwarded to the district attorney's office as well as to superior court. >> reporter: sheriff tommy wooten wants the footage released, too p. ont