tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC May 3, 2021 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
one thing to watch for in tomorrow's news, we're likely to have an fda approval by the end of this week for kids 12 and up to get the pfizer vaccine. that's big news. also, tomorrow, the travel ban goes into effect between the u.s. and india. this is in the midst of india's terrible overwhelming covid crisis right now. there is a travel ban between the u.s. and india that will go into effect tomorrow. there's a lot of important news going on on covid. we learned president biden is due to speak on covid specifically tomorrow at 2:30 eastern so i think it's worth having your antenna out tomorrow given all of the quickly developing news on that front. we'll see you again tomorrow night. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> i need your advice, the way to handle a particular guest.
it's patrick, the author of "empire of pain." he's done some press about it and he tweeted this, rachel, about one of his appearances on tv. he said just had a priceless call from my father who saw a tv interview i did about the book and said in a decidedly accuse tory tone quote i noticed you're doing a lawrence o'donnell and dropping your boston accent for professional reasons. so rachel, here is my question -- [ laughter ] >> here is my question. do you think patrick keefe and i should do this interview in boston accent or in our dropped boston accent for professional reasons? >> you should do it in your boston accents and you should subtitle it. you should get it closed captioned so that we can all
know -- we can all know the true depths of what you're talking about. you should -- can i actually just say a second about patrick. he's one of the few non-fiction writers in america who i read everything he writes. every time he write as book, i read it. every time he writes an article, i read it. anything he writes, whether or not i am at all interested in the topic because he has written it, i go and read that book. i go and read that article right now i am reading his book "the snake head" about illegal chinese immigration in the '80s and '90s and organized crime that sprung up around it. i'm convinced he's a national treasure no matter how he pronounces his rs. >> he is. he has that boston story telling gift. [ laughter ] >> well, i want to hear you two -- i want to hear you guys do the full monte.
>> we'll figure it out. we'll ask him and decide which way we want to do it. thanks, rachel. >> excellent. thanks lawrence. >> thank you. not one of the over 400 trump supporters facing criminal charges in the january 6th attack on the capitol has been brought to trial yet on those charges and that's normal. that's kind of the timetable these things take. i doesn't happen that quickly, but another trump supporter who was not at the capitol on january 6th but committed a federal crime for donald trump two days later on january 8th has already gone on trial in federal court in new york city for that crime. and last week the jury returned a verdict in that case after the trump supporter took the witness stand in his own defense to testify under oath that his threats to assassinate nancy pelosi and alexandria
ocasio-cortez and chuck schumer were just jokes. the defendant brendan hunt 37 years old has been in courtrooms before. his father was a family court judge in new york city and before he was arrested on federal charges of threatening to assassinate members of congress, brendan hunt was a clerical worker in the new york state court system. it must have helped when he was applying for that job that his father was a judge in the same system but his father could not help him on the witness stand in federal court when he was asked under oath by federal prosecutor david kessler about his jokes. question, we played a video where you referred to killing the juice. do you remember that? yes, i remember that joke. it was in very poor taste and i never uploaded that video. now, the kill your juice video was in poor taste because kill the juice means kill the jews
right? yes, that was in very poor taste. right. you were joking about killing the jews, right? yeah, that's sort of a thing that was said a lot online as far as making comments and things. hitler memes are very prevalent online. yeah, i'm not asking you what's online. this video wasn't online. i'm saying you decided to make a joke about killing the jews. yes, i did. the online world that brendan hunt is referring to is the trump supporting online world where he says hitler memes are very prevalent. the prosecutor asked about something else in that same video. question:in that video you said george floyd was a porn star and a drug addict who died of his own addictions, do you remember
that? answer question. question was that a joke? answer, no. in establishing this trump supporter's motive in threatening to kill members of congress, the prosecutor asked you thought it was a fake election in fact? and brendan hunt said quote i believed the president. the two leaders brendan hunt seems to believe the most are donald trump and adolph hitler. quote, question, you wrote trump should just declare martial law, cancel the transfer of power and round out the domestic enemies of the republic, the military and the american people would back him. during hitler's first term in office circumstances were such he became the absolute leader of his country. trump should probably do the same if necessary. did i read that correctly? answer, yes. on january 8th, two days after
the invasion of the capitol, hunt posted a video entitled kill your senators. in that video, he said quote we need to go back to the u.s. capitol when all of the senators and a lot of the representatives are back there and this time we have to show up with our guns and we need to slaughter these mother. in previous facebook posts, brendan hunt identified nancy pelosi, alexandria ocasio-cortez and chuck schumer as high value targets. they need to be put down they will see death before they see us surrenderer. the prosecutor david kessler echoed the lose cushion in the execution -- in the murder trial of derek chauvin for the murder of george floyd. it was an echo of that closing argument that we heard in that case when he said that you could believe your eyes, you could believe what you saw brendan
hunt's videos, you could believe what you heard him say on those videos. quote, this is a case in which the defendant told you everything you need to know. you heard him repeatedly threaten to kill members of congress. he literally said i shoot them and kill them. he called for executions. he called members of congress high value targets and the defendant also told you why he made these threats to interfere with congress' work in certifying the results of the election and retaliate against congress all of congress, democrats and republicans for certifying the vote. he said members of congress were traitors and should be scared to go in public and should go out with body guards and he said he wanted to broadcast those threats out to the world. what the defense called a joke or statements protected by the first amendment, the prosecution called a true threat, a true threat to murder.
the prosecutor read the facebook posts to the jury in the final argument. quote, if you shoot someone, go after a high value target and get like pelosi aoc or schumer. they need to be put down. we want you to hold a public execution of pelosi aoc schumer. a member of alexandria ocasio-cortez' staff said they took that threat seriously. the defense stressed the point that brendon hunt took down the kill your senators video the day after he posted it. he took it down. so what could be the problem? in his final argument, david kessler, the prosecutor said once you make a threat to kill members of congress for doing their jobs, you've committed a crime. it doesn't matter if you take it
down later. you know, in terms of taking the video down, he, you know, you wipe your fingerprints off a knife you used to stab someone, that's not evidence that you didn't commit the crime. that's evidence that you knew you committed the crime. he made the choice. he chose to cross far over the line and decided to commit a crime. he made a choice to threaten and kill members of congress for doing their jobs and chose to threaten them repeatedly. that's what the law does not permit. ladies and gentlemen, you didn't leave your common sense down stairs with your cell phones when you came into court today, you take it with you. you take your common sense with you when you go to deliberate and use that common sense, you should use it to evaluate the evidence that's before you and when you do, i submit you will see that your common sense and the evidence shows you that there is only one verdict
supported, guilty. the jury unanimously found brendan hunt guilty of the true threat of hurter of members of congress, a crime he committed because as he said under oath, quote, i believed the president. that was his motivation in threatening assassination. i believed donald trump. brendan hunt will be sentenced next month. he faces a maximum sentence of ten years in federal prison. leading off our discussion, andrew wiseman served as chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york and nbc news and legal analyst and reporter for courthouse news covering the brooklyn federal court trial of brendan hunt. thank you for joining us, both of you. nina, let me start with you.
i know you got to speak to some of the jurors after this case and it seemed to go in -- to be submitted by the prosecution as a very, very clear case. is that the way they took it in the jury room? >> from what we heard from the jurors and a few other reporters on the ground, we were able to catch a few folks on the way out. the jury was very much on the same page. we heard someone told me it was -- the word she used based on the evidence that, you know, the jury made a point of ruling on the evidence and of course there was a lot of materials and emotional reactions and careful to point that out. >> andrew, this prosecution is quicker than what we're seeing
in washington but it the on case this particular u.s. attorney's office had like this to prosecute and must clear up cases and make this quicker. >> absolutely. it's also quite a different case, it was taken down shortly before the inauguration precisely because the fbi was very concerned about the threats that were made by the defendant and then pam chen, the judge in charge, you know, did what you're supposed to do, which this is relatively simple case. discovery was turned over and she set a trial date and in spite of covid, she held a fair trial. i do think nina said what the jury leary only found one of the four grounds in terms of finding that the defendant made a threat
because of what he or she did in the capacity. it did not find three of the four grounds and that really shows, i think, the jury was careful to separate out the truly offensive comments here and to really look at the warns of the grounds which is the january 8th video and i think the reason that the jury did that is that the defendant surprisingly took the stand and in addition to saying things that were obviously preposterous, that was the one time that he reflected and took time before he posted a video he created and made it very hard for the jury then to say this was just because he was taking a lot of drugs, which was one of his other defenses.
so i think they clearly bent over backwards to give him a fair trial but the proof as you noted was overwhelming here. >> the point he put the video up and took it down the next day. the video got him convicted, how much did the defense rely on he took down the video? how much was the defense counting on taking down the video, getting him off the hook for this crime when the prosecution was saying all you have to do is put the video up and you've committed the crime the moment that video goes up? >> right, i think we heard the mention of the video presented to the trial, that was made when brendan hunt's attorneys brought up all of the content as we just mentioned, the four statements
that were part of the charge, each statement had been taken down. the facebook statements, specific members of congress were taken down to look at his facebook, one of the comments part of the charge on the website parlor was there and amazon took offline and the basis of the conviction was taken down sort of that was summarized in the closing arguments but as you read, david kessler's rebuttal to that was to bring up the analogy of wiping your fingerprints off a knife. i can imagine that may have been powerful for the jury. >> and andrew wiseman, this defendant was like some of the trump supporters we saw wearing
support of hitler on their jerseys and had horrible things to say about a lot of other subjects that he was not charged with any criminal conduct over that and the prosecutor made that very clear because a lot of this came out because of his cross examination. he said he's not being prosecuted for views about the sandy shook shooting or dylann roof or any controversial topic being debated in this country. he's not charged with any of that and not being prosecuted for any of that. the defendant is being charged with threatening to kill members of congress for doing their jobs. there was so much information about his racist belives that came out in this trial but he wasn't being prosecuted for any of that. >> absolutely. you know, judge chen who is a
really terrific federal judge actually excluded a lot of evidence because it could inflame the jury and go to their emotions but when the defendant decided to testify, that is known as opening the door because by contesting his intent and saying that's not what he was intending to do, that he was in a drug induced state, he opened the door to this evidence coming in. i don't expect, you know, absent of the defendant taking the stand that you're going to see that in d.c. this being repeated. >> thank you both for joining us on this important story tonight. appreciate it. >> welcome. >> thank you. coming up, the people who attacked the capitol on january 6th are facing federal prison for believing the big lie that donald trump told them about the election but republicans have another lie they have been telling for decades even though
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i think it's about time we give tax breaks and tax credits to working class families and middle class families instead of just the very wealthy and here is what the american family plan doesn't do. it doesn't add a single penny to the deficit. it paid for by making sure corporate america and the wealthiest 1% pay their fair share. >> donald trump predicted that if joe biden became president, the stock market would immediately collapse. cnbc reports the stock market is performing the best it has ever performed during the first 100 days of a presidency going back to at least 1953. the stock market continues to rise even as president biden is promising an increase in the
coporate tax rate because the stock market seems to know in 2013 when the capital gains tax was increased by the obama administration, the s&p 500 increased almost 30% in what turned out to be one of the best years for stocks in 20 years or so. during the regan years in 1986 when the capital gains tax was increased, the stock market continued to increase by nearly 40% through most of 1987 according to the "new york times." and that is why when republicans tell you that tax increases proposed by democratic presidents are going to be bad for the economy they never give you examples of when that happens. when president obama raised taxes on top income earners, republicans unanimously stood in opposition to that with republican house speaker john boehner echoing what newt gingrich said 20 years earlier
about bill clinton's tax increases and i had a chance to discuss both the obama and clinton tax increases with newt gingrich on "meet the press" in 2012. >> the problem for boehner is how does he give rates? i oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost american jobs. that gives you to room to give on rates. it is, by the way, not an original thought. who said this? the tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession and the recession will force people out of work and on to unemployment and actually increase the deficit. that's newt gingrich in 1993 on the clinton tax increase and those of us who were working on the other side of that tax increase, newt, have been waiting for your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong with that. >> i don't agree with you.
>> the economy soared and nobody lost a job. >> bologna. >> you see the recession, there was no recession. >> joining us is jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism and my political contributor and joining us opinion columnist for the post. he is a professor of public policy at georgetown university and now we're going to have a meeting of the faculty club with the two professors here. professor johnson, as the younger among us, let me start with you. are you surprised to learn how long republicans have been saying oh, this democratic president is going to ruin the economy with this tax increase no matter how much evidence we have that these democratic presidents, clinton, obama, raising taxes has not harmed the economy in any way? >> yeah, lawrence, this is the thing.
in my lifetime as junior faculty here, in my lifetime, the pattern has literally been republicans heat the economy and drag us into a recession and they end up having to pull us out of the ditch. that's the overall historic story here but the second thing is this idea of big spending being a problem and cut taxes and all these things and concerned about deficits, those only seem to be a concern of the republican party when there say democrat in office. they can spend $100,000 on a hammer for a new fighter jet that we don't need. they can spend all sorts of money they want and in particular when you look what joe biden is trying to do right now, the last time you had a democratic party push through the safety net, the launched the tea party with barack obama. the republicans always seem to get angry at investments into
the economy, which they end up benefitting from down the road but blame the people that came up with the policy. >> all right. i want to continue the course of this with kevin brady. he's the republican, top republican on the house weighs and means committee and this is only 12 seconds of pain to listen to him doing the latest version of this republican story about democratic tax increases. let listen to this. >> these are dramatic increases that have real impacts on jobs in america. there is no question in my view this will sabotage the jobs recovery and drive jobs overseas. >> professor deon, why didn't it do that before? why didn't it do that every other time republicans have told us this is what the democratic tax increase will do? >> you know, this goes back a long way. one of my favorite new yorkers cartoons going back decades, two
wealthy guys sitting in the plush chairs at their men's club smoking cigars and one turns to the other and says i don't understand it, every time these socialists democrats take power, i make a pile and it's happened again and again and again. and the thing about the money, they want to act like democrats want to throw it into a dumpster fire. what does joe biden want to spend on? roads, bridges, mass transit and broad band and educating the next workers. all that stuff is beneficial not only to people but businesses and the economy. in the last thing is supply economics, which was drawn on a napkin a very rigorous approach to making economic policy, that says if you raise taxes to 100%
people will stop working when i buy that if taxes are 100% that might have an effect on people's activity. nobody is proposing taxes of 100% biden is talking about bumping up the top rate three points and the capital gains rate on people who made a pile over the last 20 years. if he's saying let's invest some of this back in the economy, which will actually help grow business? >> professor johnson, in '93 on the democratic side there was concern there could be some contraction effect in the economy because economic theory indicated that was a possibility but we had plenty of reasons why this had to go forward and it did and in fact, the democrats were very pleasantly surprised
by how well it turned out economically but there is a reason why you keep your mind open to what the possibilities are because when you see the results of the experiment, you go oh, okay. the republicans you can run this experiment as many times as you want and they're simply never going to admit what the results are. >> well, think about it, lawrence. you know, they pass this huge tax plan, this huge tax cut in 2017. did everybody take the savings? no. it didn't benefit a lot of people. did we have the wildest christmas? no. here is the thing. this is what's often missed, tax cuts can be beneficial. they can stimulate the economy. if you cut the taxes or give benefits to regular consumers but if you give the benefits to corporations, what do they do? they use to the buy back stock. they use it to invest overseas. they use it to raise the
salaries of the executives. we seen this with delta airlines lately. that's the other issue. when republicans say hey we'll cut taxes and put money in your pocket, no. they are cutting the taxes of people and keeping what they have while you're still out there struggling that has to be the last word. jason johnson and e.j. deon, thank you both very much for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you professor. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, cecil richards is working on electing democrats in 2022. joe biden believes the best way to do that is give democrats big, big legislative achievements to run on. cecil richards will join us next. cecil richards will join us next
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the age where the impossible has happened. we just elected two democratic senators in georgia so how do you make the impossible happen again in 2022 and elect and preserve democratic control of the house and the senate? >> well, i think you're completely right, lawrence. we're living in unprecedented times and what are the things we do now is that joe biden and kamala harris and the democrats in congress delivered immediately on so many things they said they would do and what i do know from 2018 we won the house back because of women. they turned out in record numbers historic gender gap. women won the election again in 2020 and i believe that's going to be the route in 2022, which is why i'm excited about that project with american bridge. you know, women lost so much during covid. 2.5 million women lost their jobs and they are looking for government to do something about that and the incredible thing is
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when we're looking at the capacity to grow the economic vitality of communities including small businesses and increase the productivity of a work force much less expand the work force, what we know is that the reality is that people regardless of who they vote for and with which party they register with, that's what they want and that's what they want to see their government focus on. >> and so far cecil, there is a poll showing that 67% believe that republicans are compromising too little with joe biden, that they want to see much more republican compromise with joe biden, which they are not getting. >> absolutely and i think that's what we're seeing is the republicans actually don't have anything to propose that they're doing and that's why i think they're going after voting rights and other issues. i think what is important
lawrence, why it important we are doing this work now to educate women and all voters about what this administration is doing is we know what happened under president obama. we passed historic health care reform but didn't stop to explain it to folks, let them know the benefits they were getting, we just kept going and i think right now what america is committed to doing and i'm committed to doing is making sure women know what's in the american rescue plan, what the jobs package is and what the american family plan is so when it comes to 2022 it's not new news and they're ready to reelect democrats in the senate and congress. >> cecil richards, thank you for joining us tonight and please rejoin us as often as you can. we really as appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, george floyd's girlfriend testified about his struggles with opioid addiction. something jurors may have been
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filled and we got addicted and tried really hard to break that addiction many times. >> that was george floyd's girlfriend courtney ross, sharing her story about george floyd's addiction to opioids and her own addiction to opioids, millions of americans have faced that same struggle. nearly 500,000 americans have died from opioid overdoses in the 20 years between 1999 and 2019. according to the centers for disease control and prevention. the opioid addiction epidemic is the result of the greatest marketing success in pharmaceutical history by a company called purdue pharma from the state aggressively promoted oxy cotton urging the company's sales reps to create quote a blizzard of
prescriptions. those sales reps were told to tell physicians there was nothing addictive about oxy cotton. purdue pharm created many addicts, many of whom moved to heroin. it was controlled by the sackler family, a family that took home billions and billions of dollars from the opioid drug trade. no member of the sack sackler family while el chappo is serving a life sentence plus 30. this is told by our next guest from his book "empire of pain the secret history of the sackler." one of rachel maddow's favorite writers about anything, according to what rachel told us at the beginning of this hour.
patrick, thank you for joining us tonight. >> great to be with you, thank you. >> i just want to begin with this tweet that you put out about your father noticing. he said he noticed you're doing a lawrence o'donnell and dropping your boston accent for professional reasons. i leave it to you, patrick, drop the boston accent for professional reasons so america will understand what we're saying or do this in our native tongue. >> can we go full boston? i don't think your audience could handle it? >> yeah, it would scare people. they'd have to have a translator ready. i did the narration over on this subject, but, you know, one hour of television compared to what you've delivered in this book, there's just no comparison and so for me, it was filling in so many of thousands of details that i didn't know, and what i knew was horrific before i open
the pages of this book. for you, what was it for you, just the moments where you just kind of had to stop what you were doing and just say i just can't believe they did this? >> well, there were a lot of them along the way. i mean, i had originally written a piece in theway. i originally wrote a piece in 2017 about the sackler family and at that point i did not have access to the documents and the sources that i would eventually develop. a lot of it was me imagining the conversations they were having behind closed-doors. what i found in the book was a paper trail, really establishing what they knew and when they knew it which i really found shocking. when purdue farma is ready to launch they realize that doctors believe that oxycodone was weaker than morphine.
that turns out to not be true but there are e-mails saying doctors have it wrong. they say they think it is weaker and we want to sell it to a wider range of people. let's not do anything to correct the doctors and make them realization they have this wrong. >> yeah. there was a change in medical culture sackler was promoting that you don't have to live with pain. that there is no reason for any patient to endure pain at any moment. and the older thought there is a certain thought of pain you might have to deal with because alternatives to that are addetect -- addictive. >> the opioid crisis, there are many variables to consider. about you this drug was the tip of the spear and you can see these very deliberate
conversations, including members of the sackler family and the company where they set about to change the mind of the american medical establishment about how dangerous the drugs should be. they want to see them prescribed not just for cancer, end of life pain but all sorts of pain, even moderate back pain, injuries that you got on the job, sports injuries. so you can see the commercial reason why they might want to do that. but the way they pulled it off is a marketing campaign where it says turns out the drugs are not addictive at all. i interviewed many sales reps and they said they would meet with thousands of doctors and say it is addictive less than 1% of the time. we know now that wasn't true. >> how much money did the sackler family make on the drug trade and how much have they sacrificed as a result of the
law catching up to them? >> there is a tendency to think of it as a family saga. it is also a crime story. this is a company that pled guilty in 2007 to federal crimes and pled guilty again to a few months ago in late 2020 to a new set of crimes associated with the aggressive marketing of this drug. in between we now know the sackler family pulled at least $10 billion out of the company. $10 billion they pulled out during that period of time when we know the company was engaged in criminal misconduct. >> patrick, thank you very much for this book. i issue it from behalf and on behalf of rachel maddow, who i know will love it. empire of pain. patrick, thank you very much for
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senator elizabeth warren is now in a real offense to write tax law, because in january in her eighth year as a senator she became the newest democratic member of the senate finance committee with jurisdiction over taxation and even as the junior most member of the senate finance committee, senator warren has been named chair of the subcommittee on fiscal responsibility and economic growth, and last week in her very first hearing as chair of that subcommittee senator warren said this. tax reform is just about choices. we can let our roads and bridges crumble, not upgrade broadband,
make no investments in child care or getting lead out of drinking water and let rich people keep paying taxes at about half the rate as everyone else or we can ask those at the very top to pay a wealth tax. we can require giant corporations to pay a tax on book profits. we can get serious about tax enforcement for the rich and powerful. those three changes in the tax code would give us trillions more than we need in order to pay for president biden's infrastructure plan and his care economy plan. it is all about choices. >> senator elizabeth warren's new book "persist" will be published tomorrow and tomorrow night senator elizabeth warren will join us right here on the last word, elizabeth warren tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. and remember when joe biden went to georgia last week?
joe biden spent his 100th day in office where they met with jimmy caught at their home last thursday. we only saw rosalyn carter at the doorbut tonight the carter center released this photograph of the visit. two democratic presidents who won georgia's electoral votes. that is tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts right now. well, good evening once again as we start a new weekday 104 of the biden administration. today, a major step forward. a post-pandemic recovery on the horizon and having to do with this news ands it impact, we have a live picture of times square for you tonight. nothing normal about it, and it hasn't looked normal of course in over a year. but now new york alo