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first a vote on voting rights that could impact the future of filibuster reform and a discussion trying to get the white house to buy into the latest infrastructure proposal. there's a big primary this week, with new york city democrats heading to the polls to participate in ranked choice voting to select a replacement for outgoing mayor bill deblazio. i'll be speaking to two leading cants, kathryn garcia and andrew yang. and a unanimous opinion from the justices with big implications for student at leets and the ncaa. pete williams joins us with more details on the court's decision. what's the immediate impact? >> reporter: it's a narrow ruling, but the implications are big. the question was did the ncaa properly limit the kind of academic related benefits that
student-athletes can receive, things like computers, musical instruments, scientific equipment, their ability to take internships and so forth. the ncaa want to do cap those, the lower court said you can't, and today, as you said, it's a shutout for the ncaa. the supreme court unanimously said the ncaa can't limit it. but the interesting thing here is what does this mean for the much larger question about whether student-athletes can be paid. there's big momentum in the states, at least 15 states have passed laws saying students should be able to receive some compensation for the use of their names, likenesses, images, and the interesting concurrence here comes from brett cavanaugh, who correctly attacks the ncaa's logic. ncaa had said these rules are actually good for college sports because fans like the fact that student-athletes aren't paid, that it's important to per serve the amateur status of student athletics. he blisters that. he says the ncaa business model would be flatly illegal in any
other industry in america. he says, for example, restaurants can't band together to limit wages on the theory that customers prefer to eat their food prepared by low-wage cooks. the fact is the ncaa was hoping this case would be a firewall to efforts to go for some compensation for student-athletes and they're not going to get that protection from the supreme court, andrea. >> that is a big tale. pete williams, thank you so much. joining us now, morton jenkins, a former clemson football player and one of the initial plaintiffs in the case, and jeffrey kessler, co-chair of the anti-competition and sports law practice representing the athletes who won this big victory today. thank you so much. jeffrey, let me ask you first to talk about the legal implications of all of this and then i want to talk to martin about the effect on the athletes. >> so to take a word from your report, it's not a firewall, it's burning down the system.
this decision is 9-0 in favor of the athletes. you do not get many 9-0 decisions for antitrust plaintiffs. and what the supreme court has said is the ncaa, you were just like any other business in this country. when you earn billions of dollars off the backs of these athletes, you have to treat them fairly. so we are thrilled with the victory and tremendously encouraged by the message that this sends. >> and, martin, let me talk to you about this long road for thousands of athletes you're representing in the class, what motivated you? what is your story about why you think this was so important? >> yeah, it was really just my experience dealing with the ncaa, i'm extremely grateful for the opportunity to be able to play. but obviously there was some discrepancies with the rules and regulations, so teaming up with jeffrey and his team was one of
the best decisions we've ever made. and i'm super thrilled and excited, because now officially moving forward, movingly now and moving forward, education related compensation will no longer be restricted, which is all we can ask for at this time. it's going to allow athletes a ton of new avenues in benefits that can only make the future and the future athletes only that much stronger and that much better as an ncaa organization. >> how would your life be different if it went one step farther in future cases, which this will now be the predicate for, and you could actually be paid as a college athlete? >> yeah, well, i think when it comes to prime earning years, a lot of college athletes, their prime earning years are going to be during college. there's such a small, small percentage of athletes that transition successfully from college to pros. so a lot of the primary earnings are right there. so i think for them to --
obviously nobody needs to become extreme millionaires or anything like that. that's not what we were asking for. but some type of compensation. college football has come a long way, specifically in the last 15 years, and it's become such a big industry, and as a former player and as players, a lot of the fellows and women, these athletes are saying we put a lot on our shoulders and do a lot for our schools, so to be compensated for that in any fashion whatsoever is an absolute win. >> jeffrey kessler, do you worry about it becoming too professionalized and becoming more of a money game than a student experience? >> no, i really don't. first of all, we already have coaches who earn over $550,000 a year. everyone still loves alabama football. this is not about making it professional. it's about making it fair. this is life-changing for these athletes and, finally, they will
start to reap some of the benefits. and the benefits here are all to promote their education. so what's wrong with that? that's what the supreme court said, 9-0. >> and it just occurs to me we're in the olympic season. if they're being paid as student-athletes, will that impact their ability to become olympians? >> no, in fact, the olympics allowed professional compensation a decade and a half ago. the olympics used to say if you get any money, no one will watch the olympics. what happened? we got the dream team in 1992 and everybody still loves the olympics. >> you've made that point very clear. martin, what do you hope you've now accomplished in being one of the original plaintiffs for all of the thousands, millions of athletes who follow? >> yeah, for sure. exactly what we wanted to accomplish. it's an extreme victory now, and i said moving forward. and like i said, a lot of the athletes who maybe didn't get to
graduate or go on to use their degree, now they can go ahead and go to vocational schools and the school will be able to pay for that, whether it's trade school, mechanic, plumbing or whatever the case may be. now just to have that opportunity right after a lot of their prime earning years is an absolute win. and i'm thrilled for what the future is. i'm glad these gates are being burst open and i'm just extremely blessed to have a small bit in what is to come. >> well, you testified in the original case and you've done something that is extraordinary. you've won in the highest court in the land. congratulations to you, jeffrey kessler, your attorney, and thanks to everyone involved. >> thank you so much. >> you bet. and now let's turn back to the white house and to the big week for the biden administration and their allies on capitol hill. joining us, nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell and "new york times" chief white house correspondent, peter baker. kelly, how big a test is this
week really for the president on not only infrastructure, but also on voting rights? >> when you think of the agenda items that could be defining for the biden presidency, a lot of it is at play right now. because the president has long burnished his reputation as being someone who wants a bipartisan result for legislating, doing it sort of the hard way, the not so pretty, not quick, not overnight way. and that is certainly at play with infrastructure. and when you talk about voting rights, that, the white house says, is a cause of the biden era and the numbers aren't there yet, in the senate in particular, to pass legislation that would protect and expand voting rights. not enough republicans on board. and so these are issues that certainly will define the biden era. now, what can the president do? can he be more involved? there's been a lot of meetings at staff level, the president has also been meeting and speaking with senators in particular on infrastructure, one of the big issues is there
are republicans who say a deal is to be had, but the real problem comes with how do you pay for it. issues like a gas tax, as one proposal that some in the senate have been talking about, that goes against the biden pledge to not raise taxes on americans who earn under $400,000 a year. lots of people drive their cars, that would be considered something that would hurt too many at the pocketbook. dhen when it comes to some of the other big themes, we know the president has tasked his vice president, much in the model when he served in that role, of asking kamala harris to try to champion the voting rights piece and to do outreach on that. so what plays out this week in the heat of summer with the clock ticking in terms of legislative time could really be very significant about the success, or lack of success, of the biden era. andrea? >> and peter baker, this procedural vote on hr-1, it seems destined to fail. there's a lot of intrigue on the
democratic side as progressives are hoping that opposition from senate republicans could push joe manchin to agree to a one-time filibuster suspension to get this one thing through. >> reporter: yeah, they've been hoping that joe manchin would change his mind on that and joe manchin has said again and again that he won't. so, you know, at some point you're going to have to hear whether or not he's going to live up to what he says. the idea here, of course, is to put republicans on the spot and put joe manchin on the spot. he has said not only does he not want to get rid of the filibuster but doesn't want to weaken it, which he could do with the one-time legislation. he will be put to the test in that sense. it's an awkward week in that sense for him, obviously in the democratic caucus where he's faced a lot of pressure, especially from the progressive left, which is frustrated with him, seeing him as an obstacle almost akin to many republicans. but he doesn't show any signs of budging and i think the vote this week looks like it's more
about symbolism than getting the legislation passed. >> and also, peter, this afternoon the president is hosting secretary yellen, treasury secretary, fed chairs jerome powell, and they're meeting with all the financial regulators talking about the markets, trying to get some credit for the positive trends in the economy. they've also got to worry about inflation beginning to raise its ugly head. >> reporter: well, that's right. and of course that has sent signals that it's going to pull back from the policies it's been employing the last few years in terms of bond buying and whether rates eventually start to go back up incrementally. obviously that kind of news has great impact on the markets, even as things have been mostly good. the inflation numbers from a few weeks ago spooked a lot of people. the question isn't whether or not prices would go up at the end of the pandemic. the question is whether they would keep going up and whether the spending programs that this president has offered and asked congress to pass might
contribute to that rather than simply boost the economy in an inflation neutral kind of way. these are big issues and have a lot of consequences. as kelly said, this week in some ways holds out a lot of potential to define and shape the biden presidency going forward. >> kelly o'donnell, peter baker, thank you so much to both of you. and an empire state of mind, more than a dozen democratic candidates running to become new york city's next mayor as the city tries to make a comeback from covid. i'll be talking to two candidates this hour, a bit laterer former presidential candidate andrew yang and kathryn garcia. you're watching "andrew mitchell reports." stay with us. this is msnbc. feel the difference with downy. what do we want for dinner? burger... i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want...
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is leading the pack, with voters pointing to crime rates and public safety as their prime concern. most of the front runners are against defund the police and polling showing just 19% of democratic voters identifying themselves as very liberal. the election process taking a big turn, though, this year with new york voters for the first time having to rank their top five choices in order of pref rens. then those with the fewest votes are eliminated until someone ends up on top. a recent w nbc telemundo poll simulated 12 rounds of voting. when the eliminated candidates' votes were redistributed, adams had 56% of the vote. as a result of the ranking system, two top rival candidates, former city sanitation commissioner kathryn garcia and andrew yang ended up
joining forces on the trail this weekend. welcome to you. it's really good to meet you virtually. i'm going to be speaking to andrew yang later this hour, as you know. you campaigned with him over the weekend, so explain to the uninitiated why you were campaigning together. was this a gang-up on eric adams' attempt since he is polling first? >> this is really about making sure that new yorkers know that they need to get out to the polls and that you have an opportunity with ranked choice to vote for something rather than against another candidate. i spent some time with my mother making sure she understood that if i wasn't running, who she would pick and then next and next. so understanding ranked choice and it means that we can actually have a really positive campaign. >> brooklyn borough president eric adams is blasting you and andrew yang for not only campaigning together, but doing it on juneteenth. he says your allegiance will
disenfranchise black voters and it's hypocritical to criticize yang and then turn around and campaign with him. i'll give you a chance to respond. >> i am campaigning to make sure that every new yorker gets out there and votes. i want to see us have actually easier ways to vote, to have same-day registration. the right to vote is incredibly important and you've got to make use of it. new york city passed ranked choice voting by 73%. this is something we wanted to see happen and it gives you the chance to actually vote for five candidates. it means that it is likely that whoever ends up being mayor would be somebody that was on your ballot. >> that was a recent poll that had you and eric adams as the two top vote-getters. the poll has you 12 points behind him. how do you catch up? >> this is going to be a close race and i will also say, again,
it's unlikely to be known tomorrow night exactly who the winner is and we're going to have to have patience, something new yorkers are not known for. but we will actually then be able to really have a vote that is counted and counted well, and reflects the majority of new york city's views. >> one big issue has been a big spike in shootings and other kinds of attacks, subway attacks against asians, against jews. how are you going to address the rising violence while being sensitive to the treatment of black americans by police? >> this is a personal issue for me. i was adopted, as was my brother and sister, who are black. everyone has to be safe regardless of the color of their skin. but we do have to combat the rise in shootings, and i have a plan to get 10,000 guns off the street and expand the gun suppression division within the nypd, as well as do gun buybacks.
what we've seen in terms of the rise of subway attacks and anti-asian hate crimes in particular is these have been perpetrated by people suffering with mental illness. we need health professionals to get them the services they need so the crime is never committed. >> a somewhat related issue because mental illness is often related to homelessness. explain how you're planning to cut the homeless shelter population in half to support the experiment to make payments to young homeless people. what is your plan, if you could explain it better, better than i have? >> absolutely. you know, housing heals. housing makes it so you can have better mental health, that you can get an education, that you can maintain a job. my plan to cut homelessness is really multi-pronged. it's about building without building deeply affordable
house, it's about giving people vouchers that are actually something you can rent an apartment on, and it is about expanding supportive housing services, which means that there are mental health and substance abuse services on site where you live so you can maintain that home. we have to have a housing first strategy, rather than a shelter first strategy. not only is it the right thing to do, it would actually be fiscally responsible. we're spending $3 billion a year on a shelter system that basically serves no one. >> and coming back from covid, what about the financial burdens upon the city? >> so it is actually starting to feel alive in new york city. we had some dire moments, but we stood by our small businesses and they are coming back to life. but we've got to continue to support them with small business loans that are zero percent interest, that we cut the bureaucracy and make sure there is a one-city permit, that we
talk about being open for business with art and culture and restaurants and music, things that differentiate us from every other city in the united states, and makes us the best city in the united states. >> well, we love new york and i love the picture of you doing yoga on time square. that's certainly the spirit of new york coming back. thank you very much. good luck on the campaign trail, kathryn garcia. thank you for being with us today. >> thank you so much for having me. >> you bet. and summer fun, the demand for kids' camps is off the charts. many are struggling with staffing shortages. what can campers expect when they roll out those sleeping bags? stay with us. this is "andrew mitchell reports" on msnbc. feel the difference with downy. spray, lift, skip, step.
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camps across the country are finally reopening after last year's extensive pandemic restrictions kept most of them shuttered. but pandemic problems persist with camps now struggling to find workers to fill critical positions, forcing some camps to cut down sessions. nbc's dasha burns has more on the quest to fill the jobs. >> reporter: preparing to open this sleep away camp in rural pennsylvania is always a challenge, but this year it's been exceptionally difficult. >> all over our industry people are struggling for staff. >> reporter: camps across the country rely on international staffers who come on j-1 visas.
the camp typically employs nearly 200 counselors from overseas but this year the covid travel ban forced a number of industries to stop filling visas, leaving her struggling to fill vital positions. >> how big of a portion of your counselors are from overseas? >> so typically anywhere from 30% to 40% will be international. >> how does that compare to what you hav this year? >> so we've probably cut it in half. >> reporter: according to scott brody, national board chair of the camp association, the visa issue has contributed to a national camp crisis. >> it's caused some camps to close completely. other camps are cutting sessions, cutting numbers. >> reporter: especially in demand, camp lifeguards and boating and climbing instructors and the number of college students applying for camp positions is way down, too. >> after a year of confinement
they want to spread their wings and, you know, coming to camp and giving up some of that really wasn't that attractive for some. >> reporter: some international camp workers are finding their way into the u.s., by way of mexico. that's where irish native and head camp counselor got his visa. >> probably 15, 16 days. >> reporter: others like roxi bradley weren't so lucky. the uk native was a camp ihc counselor before the pandemic, but this summer she was unable to get a visa to return. >> i'm upset, i'm frustrated. >> reporter: lauren said to reopen this summer she launched a website and social media campaign aimed at recruiting american college students to fill positions. it worked. she's found enough workers for now. >> the kids are going to come here and they are going to feel that everything is normal.
but it was an absolute beast of a job getting to that point. >> and joining me now is dasha burns at camp ihc in pennsylvania, northeast pennsylvania. how are the camps navigating this reopening now? now they've reached the point of having enough staffing, but what other changes do you expect campers will be seeing? >> reporter: andrea, camps have had to get extremely creative. in a typical year about 25,000 camp workers come from abroad on those j-1 visas. this year that number is down to just a few thousands. places like camp ihc have launched massive recruitment campaigns. others have had to train a limited number of camp counselors to do multiple jobs, to training them to be lifeguards, boating instructors. other camps have had to simply cut back on programming or make that summer sleep-away camp a little shorter.
others, unfortunately, have had to close completely. thankfully camp ihc will be opening and welcoming kids this weekend, but while a lot of us are feeling like we're starting to get back to normal, camp director lauren said kids are going to have a pretty normal camp experience this time around, but it was anything but normal to make it happen, andrea. >> dasha burns, thank you so much. it looks so inviting. i wish i were there. and joining us is a senior scholar at johns hopkins center for health security at the school of public health. doctor, let's talk about summer camp and what are some of the challenges, should only children who are vaccinated be able to go or what should they do about masking, indoors, outdoors? what kind of regulations do you think are still really visible, given the pandemic? >> so it's very difficult, because right now in the united states we have some children who are fully vaccinated, some that aren't. for a fully vaccinated child, they can be back to a
pre-pandemic level of play and activities at the camp. for the unvaccinated individuals or those partially vaccinated, i think for the most part when things are outdoors and there's likely to be no transmission occurring in those settings, it's the indoor settings where they may need to have masks in place for unvaccinated individuals. and that makes it difficult for the camp to have two sets of rules. i think we're getting there and children are generally spared from severe consequences of disease and are not likely to spread it. so i think we're in a position where this can be done safely with minimal mitigation for the unvaccinated individuals in indoor settings. >> we're still seeing a large number of young people hospitalized, and how concerned are you about the delta variant and how that may impact? >> the delta variant seems to be more contagious. we're unclear whether it's more dangerous than the other variant, but it definitely is more contagious. that does pose a risk in unvaccinated population where this could infect people and spread.
that being said, the cure for the delta variant is to have the highest vaccination number as you can in your population. and what we've done with this vaccine in this country is really concentrate a lot on high risk individuals. so if 75% of our people above the age of 65 are fully vaccinated, we may see delta variant cases but they're going to be decoupled from hospitalizations and deaths. so i think it's not going to be the same sense of alarm that we saw in spring of 2020 or in the winter of 2020/2021, because so many high risk people, even in those states where vaccination rates are low. in mississippi, 60% of people above 65 are vaccinated. >> but we have states like missouri where the number of new cases is up 59% over the last two weeks. >> cases are going to continue to increase as long as there's unvaccinated individuals for the virus to infect and i think what we're going to have to do is transition away from looking at cases to looking at hospital capacity because the vaccine is
decoupling those things. we're in a different phase of the pandemic because vaccine has gone into those people who are most likely to be hospitalized and we've got to switch what we're thinking about. covid is not going to go to zero and we've got to have more vaccines into people, but i don't think you'll see the hospitals go into crisis again. >> thank you very much. and now the president of the tokyo 2021 olympics announcing that domestic spectators will be allowed to attend the games, despite japan's very low vaccination rates and a recommendation against medical experts against having live audiences. this is going to allow for up to 10,000 local fans to be in attendance, but it is subject to change based on changing pandemic conditions. nbc's jackie frayer has more from beijing. >> reporter: this decision to allow domestic fans to attend the games is boosting certainty that the games are going to go ahead. this doesn't affect foreign visitors. that was determined months ago that foreigners would not be
allowed to attend the events, but domestic fans will be able to, with officials putting the upper limit at 50% capacity at most venues, to a maximum of 10,000 people. big caveat, all of these plans are subject to change or may be scrapped altogether if it's determined there's the need for another state of emergency in japan in order to get covid infections under control. ioc officials feel it's important for athletes to have people there watching live, even though this decision contradicts the advice from japan's top medical expert just last week that said the safest way to go ahead with the games is without fans. officials say there are a number of restrictions that they have in place, but there are still questions lingering, with a month to go before the opening ceremony. andrea? >> janis mackie-frayer, thank you so much. the big battle, a new ranking voting system as we've been reporting in new york city's mayoral race, meaning
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frontrunner? >> i agree that getting people excited to vote for more than one candidate that they support is a great thing for new york city, it's a great thing for democracy. i love ranked choice voting and everyone knows that i like and admire kathryn garcia. i think she would be an asset in any administration given her record of public service. >> what's your reaction to adams saying that you and garcia are working together to prevent a person of color from winning, that your alliance could disenfranchise black voters? >> again, i don't see how getting more people voting for candidates is somehow anything but a positive. and i think a lot of new yorkers agree with me that we need the kind of leadership that's going to unify us, that brings us together, and we don't see eye to eye on everything, but this is what new yorkers want. new yorkers know that we have to pull together to get our city heading in a better direction. >> the polling also showing that public safety is the top issue on people's minds. how do you address this problem
with rising crime, particularly shooting or recognizing concerns that black and latinos have about the nypd that has raised the issue for them, the economy, all those issues in your presidential campaign don't really translate to this concern about public safety. >> andrea, last week i was endorsed by the police captains union, as well as the firefighters and these are the new yorkers that are going to be helping us make the city safer for us and our families. when i talk to black and latino communities, they are concerned about public safety just like everyone else. they have to walk the streets and they don't feel as safe as they should riding the subways. we saw this awful shooting in the bronx just a couple of days ago. so everyone knows that we have to do a better job getting the shootings and the crime rate down. we have to get the homeless people off the streets and the
subways of new york and in better environments. this is a win for everyone and it's on the top of everyone's minds and i'm the best choice to deliver on this, according to both police captains and the firefighters. >> and during the final debate you also said something about mental health. you argued for the need to get people with mental illness off the streets and you said this, yes, mentally ill people have rights, but you know who else have rights? we do, the people and families of the city. can you clarify why you distinguished the mentally ill from everyone else, from the people and the families of the city? >> the question was specifically geared around public safety. half of the anti-asian violence on the streets of new york has been by people who are mentally ill and should be cared for, should be in better environments. it's the right thing for them, it's the right thing for the city. and most people i talk to agree that we need to do more for the people struggling on our streets. >> you're not trying to say that the people of the city somehow
are separate from people who suffer from mental illness? >> again, we need to get everyone the care that they need to become stronger and healthier, and the response was to a question about mentally ill, homeless people who actually posed a threat to public safety. >> so tell me about your top priorities as the city re-emerges from the pandemic and all the pressing issues on safety, on the health system, on housing. >> well, public safety being delivered at a higher level is going to be a prerequisite for an economic recovery, andrea, but we have to get the city working for us and our families again. it has not been working in terms of safety or education or sanitation or transportation. we just need to deliver more value on every front, unfortunately, and that's what's at stake in this election.
we can either go back to the city old politics, the same old business that has not been working, or we can turn the page. today we broke the all-time record for individual donors to a new york city mayoral campaign. this is a people-powered campaign that's going to return the control of the city to us, e peoe and families of new york. >> andrew yang, good luck out there on the campaign, and thank you so much for being with us today. >> thank you. new york, get out and vote! make your voice heard no matter who you're voting for. >> thank you for that. voting is important. and the leading ladies influencing policy, politics and the united states image on the world stage. now a new spotlight on the role of america's first ladies and thr lasting impact on our country. you're watching "andrew mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need.
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meant sharing the spotlight as a first dog. >> i'm jill biden here at the white house with our two dogs, champ and major. >> reporter: a good boy in the oval office, and on the south lawn. introduced brought her tv show to the white house. >> they run all over. it's so nice. >> the younger lad, 3-year-old major made headlines earlier this year for nipping staff, and champ was the calm presence. champ's skills included something that runs in the family. >> he's a talker. hey, champ, you want to play golf? where is the golf club? >> he joined the family after president biden was elected vice president in 2008. >> i have had german shep
shepherds as a kid. >> when the first lady decorated the white house north lawn for valentine's day, champ, the elder statesman came along. the bidens wrote of champ, he was there with us. the president, who has known every shade of grief in his life now mourns the passing of the faithful friend of 13 years. kelly o'donnell, nbc news, the white house. >> and our thanks to kelly for that report on champ. and know role in the first family is more misunderstood and valued than that of first lady. michelle obama, the mysterious melania trump, and laura bush, and hillary clinton and health
care and hillary nearly reaching the white house herself, and in wartime, eleanor roosevelt, perhaps the most activist first lady on the world stage, and now announcing the first association, and the causes they choose has a major impact on millions of people here and abroad. joining me now is the director of first ladies's initiative, and she was the former chief of staff of first lady, laura bush. tell me why the first ladies association for research and education is needed now? >> well, thank you so much, andrea, for doing this interview and covering this, because after our interview today the first ladies' association for research and education appropriately called f.l.a.r.e. will be
launched and our website will go live. it's the first organization dedicated to the study of roles and legacies of the first ladies, and you have covered them in your legacy, and we appreciate that. this is a dream come true, as said by the first president of f.l.a.r.e., who is a scholar in the area of first ladies. this is a dream come true for all of those who have been working on this topic of studying the first ladies, and lighting the way of their legacies, and au is the perfect partner to be affiliating, because we are the first university that established a first ladies' initiative through the school of public affairs about ten years ago. >> i saw firsthand our current first lady, dr. jill biden and the duchess of cambridge talking
to school students earlier in the month at the g7, and she's still teaching at community college and showing she can do it all, plus her busy life as first lady. >> absolutely. she's a great example of just the power of the platform. all first ladies have actually used the role in the way that suits them best to make their mark, and their stories need to be told, because their legacies are lasting. in fact, if i can tell you one of the most important things about f.l.a.r.e. as well, is we will be establishing a scholarship in the name of professor louis gould, who i hope is watching, and he was the first to launch a class about first ladies at the united of
texas in 1982, and he was invited two years later by former first lady, betty ford, who was the first first lady to host a conference on the topic of the world of first ladies, their impact and lives and the issues on which they have made tremendous contributions throughout our history. >> i have seen it firsthand. betty ford -- >> i know you have. >> she got press cancer and invited the press into her bedroom, patient room, to try and advocate. and nancy reagan after that, and nancy reagan with arms control behind the scenes. laura bush, so important today, continuing her influence on afghan women, and, of course, the important role they achieved. >> that's right. you have made the most important point here of all, first ladies, throughout our history, they have led on issues beyond examining their lives and
personal lives, and ackley calls it a gold standard of first lady biographies, because it delves into the impact of things we didn't know. that's why even for us our logo, which everybody will see today, if they go on www.flare.org, it's lighting the way of the legacies of these women that have contributed to our country. >> i look forward to being part of this and learning more. that does it for this edition of" andrea mitchell reports." kasie hunt is in for chuck todd up next on msnbc. unsubscribe. wait, wait, wait this helps the environment. it saves you money. i will take that money. for the environment.
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