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we watch as the senate comes into session in just about 35 seconds from now. on the other side it's house versus house. nancy pelosi again this morning saying the white house needs to act, needs to do something to extend that now expired eviction moratorium. the treasury secretary getting ready to brief democrats on what could be done and what cannot. plus breaking in tokyo this morning, simone biles again making history getting a medal and a new title at the same time. we are live at the olympics. we got a lot going on for you on this tuesday morning. i'm hallie jackson in washington joined by kerry sanders, leigh ann caldwell and shannon pettypiece and dr. bernard ashby, florida state lead for the committee to protect health care. dr. ashby, i want to start with you and this is not your purview what's happening in new york city but as a medical professional, i have to ask you about it. this is just coming in to us reporting out of the "new york times" this big move potentially by mayor de blasio who,
according to the paper, is set to announce any minute, i don't think we have that live stream up just yet but we'll bring it up in a second as it gets going set to announce vaccine requirement indoors in the nation's biggest city. i believe this would be the first of its kind mandate in this country, similar mandates have been put in place at areas overseas. i wondered just initially hearing this, dr. ashby, what your take on this is, and what the impact could be. >> that's a loaded, loaded question. so let me start with the fact that -- >> break it down then. pick apart where you want to go with that, doc. >> let's establish the fact vaccines do work, they're safe and effective and compared to getting the virus, you want to get the vaccine, and second part of that is that at this point, everyone's going to get the coronavirus. it's not going anywhere. it's going to be here for the rest of our lives and we need to learn how to live with this virus and vaccines are a
fundamental tool in that mitigation strategy. now that we have the delta variant, the equation has fund a mentally changed. in florida there's an explosion at the level of new york back in april 2020, so that's an ominous sign. >> yes. >> anything we can do to mitigate that, i am for, but mandates are a very touchy subject and i'm just worried that it's going to cause more hesitancy amongst the people already opposed to getting the vaccine. >> we are going to watch to see mayor de blasio any second begin that news conference. we'll bring it to you live. dr. ashby points out florida is one of the epicenters of this. one in every three cases in the country is coming from florida or texas, just to put into context the situation where you are. talk about what you're seeing on the ground, and what we just heard from the governor not too long ago. >> the governor just spoke let me set the scene to where i am,
memorial hospital miramar. this area here was set aside as a surgical center. it is brand new, opening it in just a couple days. well today because they have seen such a surge in the number of covid patients, they're going to use this as overflow, this will not be used as a surgery center. at the same time, we are seeing this record number of coronavirus cases in the state, i'll give you a picture in broward county. the memorial health system has more than 500 covid patients and that's a dramatic increase, and in that group, if you look at the ages, it's very interesting. 41% are between the ages of 35 and 55, and 92% of them are those that were not vaccinated, and we heard the doctor just say that getting the vaccine is likely to keep you out of a hospital. it doesn't necessarily mean you're not going to get coronavirus, but there is a dramatic difference between those who are vaccinated, and
those who are not, which is underscored by the fact that as more of these covid patients arrive, even health care workers who have been reluctant to get their shots are now getting their shots. listen to what these health care workers told me. >> at first i held off, because i thought i was young, healthy individual, didn't really need to get anything, but i started to see the increase in cases in florida, and so i decided it was best that i get it not only to protect myself but to protect the patients that i see every day. >> i was hesitant. i wanted to wait and see. i decided for the protection, i don't want to be responsible for carrying it and giving it to someone else. >> reporter: and so there we hear from health care workers who have been part of that group that some people have wondered what's taking them so long, now getting on board. the governor did speak this morning, doesn't look like he
took too many questions, but he did answer at least one thought about where things stand in this state, repeating something he said before, it's important to point out since we did our seniors first, at the end of last year, beginning this year, we've seen between 70% and 75% vaccinated. so that group, one in five in florida seniors vaccinated it's a whole other story with the younger group and as i told you, the percentage of people between here and the age between 35 and 55, 41%, so it's the younger group that also needs to also get vaccinated here, hallie. >> it's a great point, kerry, one we talked about on the show as recently as 24 hours ago with the white house, shannon, looking to make this push towards as kerry is talking about the younger demographic to get vaccinated. today we anticipate the president making some remarks, addressing americans about why they need to get the shot. you've been talking to your sources. what do we expect to hear from him? >> along the lines of the new york city announcement we expect
the president to highlight companies that have required vaccination for their employees. as we've seen the white house increasingly move in that direction of "mandates" or vag vaccine requirements, proof of vaccination to have activities. the requirement that va employees be vaccinated, so certainly we've seen the white house encouraging mandates. i've already asked for a comment a few minutes ago what the reaction is to the big news by new york city. >> big news, yes. >> but among some of the other issues, the white house is trying to raise attention and awareness on a slight uptick in the past few days in vaccinations, particularly driven in areas that are hardest hit by this pandemic, seeing that they are seeing a growing number of people in those areas, come in for their first dose, so a positive sign, after really
weeks of flat line in the number of new shots that were being administered. >> as we talk about what's happening in washington, and dr. ashby, i want to get you in a second. leigh ann, there are developments on capitol hill as it relates to covid, after senator graham as we learned yesterday tested positive for the virus. that is creating a ripple effect. not just the boat party in washington with senator manchin but it relates to the passage of the infrastructure bill or development on that front. bring us up to date as you talk to aides and staffers and sources on the hill. >> reporter: senator graham's breakthrough case has really shook people up here on capitol hill especially in the senate, where there was no mask mandate issued amidst the new surge of delta, but many members who weren't wearing masks now have put masks back on out of an abundance of caution.
there was a group of members on senator manchin's house boat on saturday night, a bipartisan group of members, and senator graham was there, and he also said that saturday night is when he started to feel symptomatic, so all of those members have gotten tested. most of them have gotten their test results back. they've tested negative and plan to get tested again, and of course, there's the health impact. democrats are retreating back to zoom meetings when they meet instead of meeting in person, so they're kind of moving back into the phase of when we were in the height of this pandemic, where there were so many restrictions and then it could actually impact what happens on the senate floor there in the middle of this bipartisan infrastructure bill. now, with senate graham gone and quarantining, his vote is not having a major impact about you it will if more people miss votes, it has a dramatic impact
not only on the infrafra structure bill but the recognize vilgs bill democrats want to move to immediately after. >> thank you for that reporting. i know you'll be staying on top of that. dr. ashby as weigh wait for the news conference in new york to begin you and i talked about at the top of the show, mayor de blasio expected to make a requirement for vaccinations at indoor sites like restaurants, gyms, you have to show proof reportedly et cetera. here are the details in second. in florida and louisiana, medical worker, seeing more kids than before in the pandemic. talk about the explanation here. is this because kids are not eligible for the vaccine if they're under 12 or is there more to this? >> the equation has fundamentally changed with the delta variant. this variant is different from anything we've seen in the past. again with the viral load being
so high, people are actually getting sicker. they're able to transmit it a lot more efficiently, and what we're seeing is a lot more folks are getting sick and what i'm concerned about particularly in florida is that once schools start back up we'll see a huge spike in hospitalizations and icu admissions. florida's number one in hospitalizations and child, an ominous sign and florida and mississippi they started school already and have a high transmission rate, not a lot of -- but a couple of schools in certain districts that have closed down because of outbreaks and i definitely expect that to happen in florida, and i don't think we have any plan to deal with that, because that will come. the schools are starting to open next week and we are number one in the nation when it comes to viral transmission. so all ominous signs and again, the delta variant has changed the equation. >> is there any sign of
encouragement or optimism for you? ominous signs as you say, unmistakably clear. vaccination rates are going up where you see increased number of cases. does that signal okay, people are getting the message it took something terrible for this to happen, perhaps a loved one gets covid, perhaps somebody they love passed away from covid. can you draw any positive news out of that, doctor? >> i'm going to look at the glass half full. i'll take anything i can get especially being down here in florida. we know hurricanes very well. let me take that analogy and run with it here. during the course of a hurricane, when the category 5 is over your head, you don't then go in and put in hurricane impact window. it's a little bit too late at that point. vaccinations are important for the long-term health and wellness of our country and i strongly advise that, but right now, we are in the belly of the beast in the eye of the
hurricane now. >> yes. >> we need to think about other therapies like the who know clonal antibody therapy and there's not enough discourse how effective that is and how much that can decrease hospitalizations, decrease icu admissions and save some lives, so folks who are vulnerable need to go ahead and get that antibody therapy, it can be given as outpatient and eua was just updated if you're vulnerable and exposed, you are able to get the therapy early because it's so effective. that's exactly what trump got and that's why he had such a great outcome. >> dr. ashby, thank you. i want to go back to the news that we started talking about at the top of the broadcast. nbc news has now confirmed that "new york times" reported the city of new york will now require proof of vaccination for indoor activities like for example going to restaurants, going to the gym. our sources at nbc news we can confirm that that is what we expect to hear from mayor bill de blasio coming up in a couple of minutes.
he was supposed to start just to let our viewers know, speak being 12 minutes ago. that news conference is obviously running a little bit late. we're keeping an eye on that. this is significant because we've seen corporate america do this. we've seen some private companies, gyms, et cetera, require proof of vaccination. think of theme parks, et cetera, to be able to participate. this is a first time we're seeing some sort of public entity like a city or like a state require this. dr. ashby, you said something interesting and a good point. this is going to be touchy. when it comes to mandates there are people on various sides of the issue, across the political spectrum who see this differently. kerry, i'm glad you're talking to our control room. you get this more than perhaps anybody on the screen because in florida, we have seen this to use dr. ashby's words, touchiness when it comes to mandates before. i wonder if you can speak to
that. >> reporter: florida is one of ten states they've been specific about not allowing mandates. in florida, the governor has used executive order and established the authority across the state to prevent local governments from enacting their own mask mandates, as well as requiring those to get vaccinated. so for instance in orange county, they have announced, the orlando area, that the county employees will have to get vaccinated except for the union employees to work that out. for parents who are especially concerned about their children going to schools, local communities, including right here, i'm in broward county, florida, the school board wanted when school starts next week kids have to be masked. because the governor has said no, you cannot do that, they no longer will require masks. a lot of parents are worried what is going to happen, as our children return to school next week if they're not required to mask. in some cases kids will wear them and in other cases they will not.
remember we are talking about mostly people 17 and younger, and so likely not vaccinated, because of their ages. >> right. >> so there's a lot of questions in what the authority of the governor is in a state like florida, third largest state, where individual communities and those for instance the mayor in -- the mayors of many counties have said the governor has usurped our authority and we feel powerless. >> kerry sanders thank you to you and you all for joining us and rolling with some of the breaking news coming out now in the last 10, 15 minutes out of new york. we'll have a lot more on that coming up. we'll be waiting for mayor bill de blasio to speak, significant not just for people in new york and the question as new york goes, so goes other cities perhaps? that's one of the things we'll watch and talk about what pregnant women need to know now about the vaccine as covid cases surge by double digits
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we're back and take you live to new york city, mayor bill de blasio talking about vaccines and masks in new york, that news we shared with you at the top of the show. let's listen. >> -- vaccination for workers and customers in indoor dining n indoor fitness facilities, indoor entertainment facilities. this is going to be a requirement. the only way to patronize these establishments indoors will be if you're vaccinated, at least one dose. the same for folks in terms of work. they'll need at least one dose. this is crucial because we know
this will encourage a lot more vaccination. we've seen it already. we've seen the impact of the mandate we put in place for city work groups already starting to move people to vaccination. we've seen the positive impact of incentive as well. the goal here is to convince everyone that this is the time to stop the delta variant. the time is now. that means getting vaccinated right now. this new policy will be phased in over the coming weeks. so we've been working with the business community getting input, more over the next few weeks, the final details of the policy will be announced and implemented in the week of august 16th. so over the next couple of weeks, getting more feedback, finalizing the policy, publishing it and beginning to implement it. we'll then spend most of the month educating people, going out to businesses, receiving calls from businesses, answering questions and concerns, making sure everyone understands the
new approach, and then on september 13th, during that week, we'll begin inspections and enforcement. so we want to give businesses big and small a chance to get acclimated. we want to make adjustments based on input, but this will move forward, starting in the week of august 16th, and then full enforcement and inspection begins the week of september 13th which is very pertinent, because that's the first full week after labor day, when we really expect a lot more activity in this city. now i'll tell you, we know those conversations with the business community are crucial. we've had a lot of them already and what we're hearing from so many folks in the business community is they understand it's time but they need government to lead, that's going to help them to do what they need to do. not everyone's going to agree with this. i understand that. but for so many people, this is going to be the life saving act that we're putting a mandate in place, it's going to guarantee a higher level of vaccination in
this city and that is the key to protecting people and the key to our recovery. that's why it's the key to nyc pass opens a lot of doors and we need it. we'll be issuing a mayoral executive order and health commissioner's order. those are the legal tools necessary to implement this approach and we know that this is what's going to turn the tide and we also know people are going to get a clear message. if you want to participate in our society fully, you got to get vaccinated. you got to get vaccinated. it's time. all the answers, all the information's out there. you've seen over 160 million americans get vaccinated safely, you've seen it make the difference. the only reason why we have the recovery is vaccination so it's time and this is going to send that message clearly, and the key to nyc pass an easy approach because to confirm vaccination, all you need is your vaccination card or the nyc covid safe app
or excelsior app from the state. it's simple, show it and you're in. everyone this summer already has been amazing in this city and a lot more to come. this approach is going to make clear. you want to enjoy everything great in this summer of new york city, get vaccinated. it will do for you so many things, make your life better, it will make all our lives better. i want you to hear from folks working so hard on the response to covid, and who care so deeply. i want you to hear what they think of the clear, strong approach the key to nyc pass, the former acting administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid services, he was also a former senior adviser to the biden white house covid response team. he is a powerful voice for expanding access to health care in this country and i really want to thank him for joining us. my pleasure to introduce andy
slavitt. >> good morning, good afternoon. thank you for having me join you mayor and thank you for your leadership. let me spend two minutes emphasizing a couple of points. first of all, the delta vaccine, the delta variant is a very different kind of covid than what people may remember and have experienced from 2020. if you're not vaccinated, only five minutes of exposure can infect you, and this is something that in a city like new york could cause a widespread outbreak if not for leadership and action. >> you have been listening to andy slavitt explain along with mayor bill de blasio the significant, significant new requirement that is now in place in new york. the mayor describing what he calls the key to the city pass
if you will. the requirement that you show proof of vaccination in order to do things like go to restaurants indoors, go to gyms indoors, entertainments indoors, et cetera. as you heard him describe, there will be a bit of a ramp up to this, starting august 16th. the enforcement will begin in a month and change from now. september 13th, that's the week after labor day for those of you keeping track at home. something like this exists overseas. france has a similar program. we have not seen anything like this in the united states at least not so far. let me bring in msnbc public health analyst dr. irwin ledbetter from columbia university. thank you for being with us this morning with this breaking news that's developing. we're going to keep an eye and keep up the new york city mayor's news conference in case he takes questions. doctor, your reaction to what we're seeing in the biggest city in the country, a city that is often the pace setter for other
urban areas nationwide. >> yes, hallie, i could not be more supportive of the mayor's announcement and what is being planned here. this has been a sticking point in our ability to get control over this pandemic. it would be great if the federal government was capable of saying not just federal employees need to be vaccinated but everybody needed to be, and we needed to have a mandate some sort of passport situation. that's not possible in our federalist society and those decisions are up to state and local authorities and they're also up to local businesses, and organizations and universities to say you want to come into our event or program, you must be vaccinated. i think this is a huge step that new york city's taking and a real model for the rest of the country and i hope the rest of the country follows suit here. it's just a very important thing to put on the table right now and i congratulate the mayor for
doing so. >> there are some interesting questions here. i wonder if the mayor will answer that. doctor, a couple of things that come to me for me. first of all, you have to be having proof of vaccine card in your wall let at all times to flash it there is enforcement. what if you are immunocompromised and cannot have the vaccine. do you have to have a doctor's note? i didn't hear de blasio talking about a testing opt out that testing would be okay instead of a vaccination. >> first of all, hallie, i don't believe that testing is anything close to a reasonable substitute for getting vaccinated. in terms of exemptions, there's been two types of exemptions that have been talked about, in terms of mandates. one is a medical exemption. there are people for a variety of reasons may not be able to get vaccinated safely. those people have to have some sort of probably on their phones some sort of indication that they are medically exempt and
the other type of exemption has been a religious exemption. that i don't agree with. i don't think there should be a religious exemption in the face of a major killer pandemic like we're experiencing, too easy to game that and i don't think it's going to be safe for people just to keep climbing that religious reasons keeping them from getting vaccinated. the medical exemptions, yes. we'll have to have a mechanism for dealing with that. >> right. >> the whole idea here is to get everybody vaccinated with as many people as possible. still have a problem because children under the age of 12 are not eligible for vaccination. so that's the problem. we want the kids to go back to school. i think is desperately important they go back to in-person classrooms in the fall. we have to recognize that children will not be vaccinated. one of the reasons i've been
proposing is that every single teacher and every adult working in a school needs to get vaccinated. no ifs, ands or buts, no substitutions replacing it with regular testing, not good enough. we need to keep our kids safe. we don't know how long they're going to be semiprotected from getting very sick but you know, it's something we have to worry about and we're, we may be getting pushback from teachers unions and other unions but we have to stand strong. i hope the mayor and the governor and everybody will stand strong and work with the unions to make sure we can enforce a mandate for teachers and other adult personnel in the schools and do that before the school year starts. >> to be clear talking solely and mayor de blasio made that clear about indoor dining, fitness, entertainment at this point. you talked about hoping that he stands strong and i hear you, when you say you believe this is
the best possible medically indicated step for new york city to take is to require this proof of vaccination. all of that said, dr. redlener, this is going to be and already is controversial considering what we've seen in other states like florida, where we were earlier in the hour, who have banned requirements on things like masks, for example, all together saying people should have freedom of choice, et cetera. there will be businesses inside the city limits of new york who do not want to do this. bars, restaurants, et cetera. i don't want to check. i know that you're a doctor, not a new york city health inspector, but i do think as you talk about hoping the mayor stands strong, there will likely be pressure from some corners and outside of new york as we know, new york often ends up being a bit of a punching bag for those who don't believe politically and what the mayor believes that city. how would you recommend that he holds onto that if you will in
the face of this pressure that we anticipate he'll get? >> well, hallie, you make' very good point. there's no question there is is going to be pushback and maybe ferocious pushback within new york city and externally. if you think about this, i'm in public health and a physician but the discussion about mandates has really left the arena of doctors and health care professionals and it's now in this sort of crazy world of politics, and politics are driving some of the, you know, ignorant steps or bands on mandates that are being taken elsewhere in the country. it's just what governor desantis and florida and abbott in texas are proposing and trying to do. everybody knows that vaccines are the way out of this horrible deadly morass we're in with the pandemic and to stand in the way of mandating vaccines is nuts
and it's dangerous, hallie and i hope that look, there will be people like de blasio going to stand there and say bring it on. we're going to defeat any efforts to undermine the vaccine mandate and they should do that. it becomes a political question, however, but at the end of the day, we have to solve this public health crisis with whatever politics or public health messages need to be out there. >> dr. irwin redlener, we appreciate you talking through what is developing this morning in new york city and go into effect later this month initially enforcement beginning on september 13th. thank you, dr. redlener, appreciate it. we'll talk about this more later in the show. a number of other stories in the last couple hours, new reporting former president donald trump will let doj officials testify in front of congress. the reporter who broke that story joins us next.
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congress failed to extend a federal moratorium. now today house speaker nancy pelosi and her latest letter to house dems this morning is again punting the issue to the white house. the fight against evictions should be led "specifically through the administration extending the moratorium." the biden administration is pointing its finger at the cdc after they say they couldn't act because of a june supreme court decision and the cdc say they don't have the legal authority to do anything about it. for some reasons like luis who fell behind on rent after being hospitalized. anything is too little too late. >> i was living in riverside until today because they evicted me, gave me three weeks to get out. i feel lost. i feel helpless. i feel like i can't do anything, even though i work and i got a full time job, it doesn't help. >> this is very real for so many americans. kelly o'donnell is covering the story for us from the white
house. kelly, seems like -- what happens now? >> reporter: the fight within the democratic party, too, which is somewhat unusual for the big issues of the day and with very real practical implications for many americans. so the white house has gone to the end of the road of what it can do to extend the moratorium. congress has to provide a guide post for how this could be extended, as you talked about, speaker pelosi couldn't get that done and pushed it back. the other issue is the supreme court is saying an administrative fix coming from the biden administration like the cdc, can't go on beyond this past month, because they need a legislative fix. so there is this finger pointing. there is tension within the testimonyic party and there's some democrats that are saying to the white house simply extend it by administrative fiat and then see if there is a legal challenge. this white house does not appear to want to do that at this point, although they didn't
remove that from the options, as they are trying to pursue some legal remedy, some authority, some power through the executive branch to try to extend the moratorium. short of that, they are saying to states and local communities speed up the process of what was really a new bureaucracy to try to administer the funds that have already been approved by congress, billions of dollars, most of which has not gone out to the renters and landlords who could be made whole with the relief that's already been passed. one of the problems there is the paperwork, the manpower and so forth and really just the gears of government at the state and local level that have not been working. the white house has gotten criticism for not acting quickly enough, waiting until the 11th hour to deal with this. congress the house is out of town, the senate is in town, but there isn't an appetite on capitol hill right now, even with push from within the democratic party to try to
resolve this. it is a real crisis for many americans but one where the help exists it is a little bit out of reach until state and local officials distribute the funds. >> kelly o'donnell live at its white house, thank you for staying on top of that story. donald trump is now signaling he will not try to block the testimony of former justice department officials, speaking in front of congress at least for now according to a new letter from the former president's legal team obtained by politico and clears the way for trump era doj officials to talk to lawmakers and answer their questions. law makers are investigating trying to turn over election results. betsy, great to have you back on the show. thank you for being here. talk about this letter and what it means for these congressional investigations because it could be significant although there's some caveats on that front. >> this letter is important because it means that the congressional investigations looking at trump's final weeks
in office could get a lot more interesting, a lot more quickly than we had expected. last week, biden's justice department released a memo saying that in their view, the former trump doj officials were in good shape to testify to these congressional committees about conversations that they had with president trump in their capacity as government officials. sometimes white house lawyers will argue that the concept of executive privilege means those conversations get to stay a secret from congress and the public, but the biden team said nope, good to go. when the biden team said that, the next huge question was, well, will trump try to step in and say i disagree with biden's folks. my former doj lawyers can't actually testify. that was the outstanding question. and if trump had said that, then it could have really slowed down the process by which this testimony moved forward.
according to the letter we obtained, what trump's legal team has told the former doj officials, they are actually for now in good shape to testify to these congressional committees. trump's lawyers are interesting characters and the verbiage in this letter is a little weird. he says what trump's lawyer says is these former doj officials can testify but if congress tries to get privileged information from other former officials in my administration, then i'm going to fight tooth and nail, that's a paraphrase, to keep them from testifying. so trump isn't saying he's rolling over but saying in this specific case, with these specific former officials, at this specific moment in time, he's not going to try to slow down the hill and that's a big deal. >> betsy woodruff, swan. thank you. two more washington plufrz
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this morning, we're learning two more police officers who responded to that attack on the capitol on january 6th died by suicide. bringing the total number of officers who died by suicide to four. pete williams, we need to note owe fishes have not drawn a connection between the riot, between what happened on the 6th and these deaths, right? >> right, and as for the four, both of these latest two cases were officers of washington, d.c.'s metropolitan police department, and this first one was beguner this hashida, ab18-year veteran most recently assigned to the department's tactical unit, found dead at home last thursday, a week before his 44th birthday. he was among the officers who responded to the capitol during the riot. officer michael fanone who has
spoken about his brutal treatment said this "he was the most dedicated police officer i had the privilege to work with. he loved his job, and his passion was unmatched." the police have also disclosed another metropolitan officer kyle defreytag was found dead three weeks ago july 10th, 26, been on the force for five years. he was assigned to capitol duty to enforce a can you are few. the police j not said whether they believe the suicides were related to the riots. three metropolitan police officer and one u.s. capitol police officer who responded to the capitol january 6th that died from suicide and of course police officer brian sicknick of the capitol police died after suffering two massive strokes the day after the capitol siege. if i could say one other economy about the executive privilege with trump, it's an unresolved question about whether a former president can assert executive
privilege or whether the privilege belongs to the office or the person. >> it's a good point. pete williams covering a couple of stories, thank you for your reporting. we appreciate it. turning to what's happening today in ohio, a democratic and republican voters, weighing in on the future of their parties in two -- >> [ laughter ] >> we'll mute pete's microphone. the democratic side mute pete's microphone there. two women are heading for fudge's old seat. and for republicans, a crowded list is putting trump to the test. i want to bring in henry gomez covering the blockbuster house races. good morning. >> good morning, how are you? >> good. let's start with the republican primary, right? this is in effect donald trump's
backed candidate versus steve staoeufer's backed candidate. is all politics still local? this is a republican primary that has become quite nationalized. >> yeah, absolutely. there are 11 candidates in the race and four or five of them have substantial commitments and endorsements from local office holders throughout the district and it boils down to the proxy war with president trump endorsing one and then stiver backing another. it could be somebody besides these two candidates. it boils down to trump's influence and whether his endorsement is something valuable in these contested primaries right now. >> you also have on the democratic side, a different
primary to shape up to be a proxy battle between the establishment and progressive left. on one side it's bernie sanders, and alexandria ocasio-cortez, and i know you have been covering had on the ground. what is your sense of how this goes? >> it's so hard to tolerate now because of the turnout model. nobody knows what it's going to be for a special election a. primary in august. both campaigns are fighting this as if it's really tight. this has been nina's race to lose, and we have seen her go negative to back brown, and then you have seen both candidates bring in national surrogates to campaign in a district that includes cleveland and parts of akron, and there are problems like gun violence and poverty, and so they are pulling out all
the stops. people i talked to in both campaigns are nervous and not sure what to make of it, and it's blind polling and i will give you the cliche, if -- >> we have not heard that on this show, right? >> right. >> does it all come down to it? i don't know. >> it all comes down to it, especially in the inner cities in cleveland where turnout in the last presidential election was so low, and if either can mobilize that they can win. >> i think there will be a tendency, tomorrow morning, right, for pundits to draw lessons out of it, and do you think that's fair? >> i think it's fair because both brought in the national candidates and cannot be seen as anything but as a proxy war, and
you have the caveat of the low turnout. >> henry gomez. great to see you. good luck on what will be a long day and night for you. we have breaking news now from tokyo. simone biles, a bit of a spoiler, but if you have had your eyes open for the last three hours, we won bronze on the balance beam. it's her seventh olympic medal. simone is telling our network this morning that today's bronze means the most. watch. >> does it mean more than the others? >> yes. it means more than all of the golds because i pushed through so much the last five years and the last week while i have even been here, it was very emotional and i am proud of myself and all of these girls as well. >> and with us is amanda
boarden, thank you for being on. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with the incredible simone biles, and your thought of her getting a medal and going home after being under the microscope. >> yeah, and being a gymnast my heart was breaking for what she was going through, and from the beginning i kept saying, if she can get through this, she will. it was so amazing to wake up and hear that news today. i think she said it best, you know, medals are not just medals, but it's journeys to get you to those medals and for the last five years it has been a unique journey, and then this
situation where she had to be under the microscope and explain all these things and it had to be an amazing feeling to get back on the olympic stage and win a bronze. >> i love that you say you woke up and heard the news. i did the same, and i set my alarm for 4:45 this morning, and i was excited to watch it on primetime. you know the "today" show has been covering every in and out of this. let me play their interview with hoda. >> i broke my heart to see simone going what she was going through, and for her to step down and give me this opportunity i wanted to go out there and say she deserves this, too. >> i have been through so much over the past couple of years in the sport, like, i just don't quit. that's not what i do. the girls could see it and i knew they would get the job done and that's exactly what they did. >> that's amazing, right?
all six of the female gymnast are leaving tokyo with hardware, with medals. what does that tell you about the team's depth and perseverance? >> the entire time i have been very impressed. i have been impressed not knowing really happening when you saw simone bow out and learning behind the scenes, and not knowing that, watching the americans step up in the team finals, and they won a silver, and many people think the silver is a letdown, and any hardware is a huge accomplishment. i am a mom of three kids. i teach my kids all the time, you know, be resilient and tough. things don't always go your way, but keep fighting through. i think the american team represented that from top to bottom, and then to watch them have their moments each celebrating something so special, it has been really fun to watch. >> suni lee is one we have been watching, too.
she did not medal this morning, and she was disappointed in getting bronze in the uneven bars final, and here's why. she said she was distracted by social media. she said she would probably delete twitter. you competed before twitter was a thing and before social media was on the internet, and can you imagine adding that on all you face in the games? >> i cannot. i shared this story. in '96, mary lou retton came to our training and she said don't listen to anything anybody is saying, and that's if you read the newspaper or watched tv, and it was easy to not pay attention to what people are saying about our team, and these girls are in a different position, and for
lee to say it. it's okay to step away from the social media and focus on what is most important to you. for these athletes, there have been so many obstacles, and no fans and no family over there, that's enough distraction. you know, she's disappointed with bronze because she was expected to win gold, but watching from home there have not been any disappointments, and i have been excited and proud of these young ladies. >> you and so many other americans. it's great to hear your perspective. the haters have always been there, but it's hard to quiet them with social media. >> our coverage continues now on msnbc as we await a news conference from the new york state attorney general. she said she is making, a quote, major news announcement.
we will hear about that and a whole lot more with our friend, jose. >> good tuesday morning. i am in for craig melvin. it's 8:00 a.m. in the west, and 11:00 a.m. in the east. just minutes ago, new york mayor, bill de blasio, announced, quote, the key to new york city, proof of vaccination will be required to enter restaurants, gyms and other indoor destinations in new york city. >> if you want to participate in our society fully, you have to get vaccinated. it's time. >> that comes as texas and florida move away from requirements despite accounting