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vaccinations and you heard the poison straight from facebook and other social media sites thrown right back at him, a man saying, you can't inject me with something unless i can inject you with something that i also say is safe. what do you do with that? there are people who are reachable in this country and can be convinced to take the vaccine, but the truth is, there are a lot of people who aren't. that does it for us this morning. we'll be right back tomorrow morning. for now, stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage. hi, there. i'm stephanie ruhle. it's wednesday, august 4th, and this morning we are watching several major stories. new york governor andrew cuomo facing mounting pressure to resign from office, after an investigation by the new york attorney general's office alleges he sexually harassed a total of 11 women. the lawyer for one of those women will be here in this hour. and a new safety net, for millions of americans the biden administration issuing another
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freeze on evictions after the previous ban expired. and as kids get ready to return to the classroom, the fight playing out over vaccine mandates. we'll ask the head of one of the nation's largest teachers unions about it. we've got to start with several breaking developments on the coronavirus pandemic, including a potential game-changer to increase vaccinations. "the new york times" reporting the fda is accelerating its timetable to fully approve the pfizer vaccine by early next month. the fda responding, saying the application for full authorization is moving forward as rapidly as possible, but offered no comment on specific timing. cases, of course, have increased sixfold nationwide over the last month, to an average of more than 85,000 a day. levels not seen since mid-february. and hospitalizations in the south continue to break pandemic records. at the same time, vaccine requirements are increasing. that's good news. new york state becoming the first major u.s. city to require
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proof of vaccination for leisure indoor activities. starting next month, you'll need to be vaccinated if you plan to eat inside a restaurant, work out in a gym or see a show. this is pushback. a new poll finds nearly one in five u.s. workers would rather quit their job than have to get vaccinated or wear a mask. i have the best team following the latest developments. kerry sanders down in florida, allyson barber in arkansas also with us, dr. michael osterholm, the director of infectious disease research and policy at the university of minnesota, the owner of a staten island pub, and frances suarez, the mayor of miami. kerry, let's start with you. you are outside a hollywood hospital where they're seeing a striking rise in children with covid. how many kids are we talking about? >> reporter: well, i'm at the memorial hospital here in hollywood, which is part of or connected to it is the childrens' hospital, so when your kid is injured or sick,
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this is the hospital for the greater broward county that you're rushed to. and the numbers for covid are disturbing, because so many people have felt that this covid challenge that our nation is up against with this pandemic has been something for older people, and certainly we've seen the numbers dropping. but when we get to kids it becomes very much a real situation for anxious parents. so the numbers that they have here right now at the hospital is 23 covid patients who have been pushed in the emergency room in july, 240 covid patients came to the emergency room, and that's an 18.6 positivity rate. that is a number that has folks worried because school opens next week. a lot of people are anxious on what's going to happen with that. this is what the governor here in florida, governor ron desantis, republican, had to say. >> when talking about hospitalizations, our hospitals are open for business.
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like i said, jackson, the covid patients are half of what they were last year. even in places that have more, covid patients represent a fraction of the overall hospital beds. and so i don't want to see a repeat because of some of the media hysteria with people who have heart problems or stroke are not going in to get care. that happened in march of 2020 and in april. >> reporter: so the governor will be talking, actually, later today with several leaders of hospitals around the state doing an online conference to talk about the situation. but clearly the governor's take here in florida is, as you heard, media hysteria. many people are seeing the numbers climb at record levels for this state, saying we had a serious problem, this is not just media hyping things up. stephanie? >> no one is hysterical here. the governor is always welcome to join us at 9:00 a.m. on msnbc to discuss. dr. osterholm, kids under 12
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cannot get the vaccine. what do you make in this rise in cases among children? >> well, it's an unfortunate situation. we surely need vaccines for kids. we know kids can get infected and kids can transmit the virus and kids can transmit the virus to adults. so this is going to be a situation where our best effort is going to be bubbling kids so they don't get infected, meaning we don't put infected people, adults, in their presence. >> mayor, florida is seeing the worst of it right now, shattering records almost every day. what's the situation like in miami? >> well, the ceo of our public hospitals said that we have sort of, you know, a problem, particularly in the unvaccinated. you have a spread of about 95% of the people hospitalized were not vaccinated. the other thing is that 99% of the people that are vaccinated are not experiencing severe symptoms, so i think that is a
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compelling case for vaccination and that's what we're trying to get people to do. we have about 99% of our 65 and older population vaccinated with at least one shot, and of course we're hoping to continue to increase our rate of vaccination among all age groups that are eligible. >> do you agree with how governor desantis is handling the situation in florida? have you spoken with him? >> i haven't spoken with him. he and i have had our differences throughout this entire process. one of the ones that i felt strongly about was having local control at the beginning of the pandemic. the governor had allowed things. all cities are different in florida, we have urban and rural cities and it's a republican principle to allow governments that are closest to the people to make those decisions. he was doing that at the beginning. i obviously agreed with him, when he was doing it he was very supportive of the local governments at the beginning.
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at some point he pivoted away from that and i think he should return to that. again, miami is very, very different from ocala, it's different from the other cities. we're the most dense urban city in florida and i think we should have a right to establish rules that i think are for the benefit of our residents. >> you're in arkansas, where covid patients have filled hospitals so much that some seeking care are being turned away because there's no room. what is going on? >> reporter: yeah, i spoke to the ceo of one of the state's largest ambulance providers, and he told me in 25 years he has never seen a situation this dire. on monday covid hospitalizations in this state, it was the largest increase they've had since the pandemic began. officials say 90 plus percent of the covid patients hospitalized here are unvaccinated, and all of those covid patients needing care at a hospital level in
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addition to people having heart attacks, suffering from cancer, needing medical help, hospitalization for other things. it is putting a massive strain on the entire system, and the hospitals here, they are filling up. i met one family who experienced this firsthand. ashley mcfadden told us her brother got really sick last week on monday. he does not have covid-19, but is immunocompromised and has a number of health issues. he needed help. she called 911 at one point fearing that he was going to die in her arms, but when the paramedics arrived, they told her they didn't really have anywhere to take him. the closest hospital, they were diverting ambulances, so was the hospital down the road. they tried four different hospitals before her brother was finally admitted and it took over 14 hours for him to get a bed. listen to some of what she told us. >> every time we've had this situation in the past where he needs immediate care, we've gone in like that. it's not been an issue.
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so whenever they said that's not happening, i was just like, wait, this is real, what are we going to do? >> reporter: when we're talking about hospital capacity, it is not just square footage, it is not just beds. it is staff, specialized doctors, nurses, respiratory therapists. and when you're at the level of needing intense care for covid-19, you're using a lot of resources and there are other people that need that care as well. stephanie, hospitals here say they cannot keep up, and at this rate if things don't change, they are really scared for where they might be in a week or two. stephanie? >> bobby, you own a pub on staten island. new york city will require proof of vaccination for indoor leisure activities. i want to share what mayor bill de blasio said about it an hour ago. >> here's the bottom line, we've heard from lots of folks in the
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business community, they said amen, they said this is really helpful because it makes the rules clear and it's the way to stop covid once and for all. >> bobby, is this good for your business? will more vaccinated customers want to come to your pub because they feel safer? >> well, it's posed a real challenge for us, because, you know, the restaurant industry has suffered so much during the pandemic. we continue to suffer. we're being asked to enforce all kinds of regulations without input. it's a major challenge. while we welcome more vaccinated customers, but having restaurant owners enforce rules and regulations without support from government has really been something that's broken the backbones of small business owners and the restaurant industry. >> but won't you suffer more if covid numbers go up again, if spread breaks out in your restaurant, if you have to close again? wouldn't that be worse?
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>> it would be worse. what we need right now is we want to make sure that we are part of the solution in a sense that government is not just releasing regulations without input from the industry. that's hurting us as well. >> mayor suarez, what are you hearing from businesses in miami? why not require vaccinations, like new york is doing? one could argue that it's cumbersome, but if you're a bar, you have to require proof of i.d. >> yeah, in our particular case in florida it's actually -- the state legislature passed a law forbidding asking for a vaccine passport. that's created a huge issue with the cruise line industry which employs thousands of people and has thousands of customers that enjoy the cruising industry, and the cruising industry wants to
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embody the law because you're preventing it from happening in the public sphere, but you're preventing private companies and individuals from making requirements. if you have a business, you essentially have every right to determine whether someone can or cannot frequent your business, absent some extraordinary circumstances, like based on, of course, race or other kind of discriminatory factors. but you can essentially determine who comes in and who doesn't come into your business. so the fact that that's happened from our state government is another sort of example of government telling the private sector what to do. >> and those businesses will be liable if something bad happens on their watch. dr. osterholm, if the fda gives the pfizer vaccine full approval early next month, what potential impact could that have on cities and companies requiring the vaccine? >> it will surely make it easier for companies to go ahead and
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put in place mandates. we have to remember right now we have three different kinds of people out there with regard to vaccine. there are those that i call vaccine affirmative. they're the people in minnesota that drove 125 miles through snowstorms in february to find a clinic they could get vaccinated in. we don't have to worry about those people. then we have the vaccine hesitant, people with legitimate concerns. a pregnant woman, is it safe for me to get the vaccine, i'm a black man, i've been experimented on a lot. and then there's the vaccine hostile. it's what we've heard about in so many locations where they just don't believe covid is real or the facts are not true. the mandate will help us clearly only get at basically those who are hesitant if they have exemptions. in our state, unfortunately, you can get exempted out of mandates. so what we need is a uniform set of mandates around the country where people have to comply and then i think we have a real opportunity at that point to expand on the vaccination level even among those who are vaccine
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hostile. >> dr. osterholm, thank you. thank you all. you definitely made us smarter on covid this morning. also developing, the cdc issuing a new eviction moratorium for parts of the country with high transmission rates of covid-19. shannon pettypiece is at the white house. this is going to affect 90% of the country, a 60 day extension or new moratorium. walk us through it. >> reporter: and of course, this comes after days of finger pointing and back and forth over who and how they should solve this problem of millions of people facing evictions. administration officials had said for days that their hands were tied legally after a supreme court ruling said they couldn't indefinitely extend the eviction moratorium. of course house congressional democrats on the hill kept pushing the white house to do more, activist groups kept pushing them to do more. here is the solution that the administration has finally come up with. the cdc yesterday saying that
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because of this surge in cases and the widespread nature of this delta variant, they're putting a new targeted moratorium in place that would keep people in their homes if they are in an area with substantial or high transmission. but given how widespread this is, that applies to about 90% of the population, falls into areas right now that are in that substantial or high transmission category. so buying people in those areas some time, through october at least, that is the next cutoff point for this. whether it's legal, that's going to be decided. but the administration is certainly hoping temporarily it can keep people in their homes a little bit longer. >> shannon, we have to leave it there. we have breaking news. lawyers for former president trump now demanding a federal judge block the treasury department from handing trump's taxes over to a congressional committee. let's bring in pete williams. pete, it's not a surprise. we knew they were going to fight
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this. but what can you tell us specifically? >> well, what they say is that there's no legitimate purpose for congress to have these returns, that congress' stated purpose is a pretext. the committee on ways and means has said it wants to look at how the irs audits the returns of presidents. but lawyers say they have asked for his returns, not any other president's returns, they didn't ask the irs how it audits presidents, so that's just a pretext. it says ever since donald trump was a candidate the democrats have been trying to get their hands on his tax returns and that didn't diminish after he got elected. let me quote you one line from the filing. it says the chairman of the house ways and means committee sought president trump's tax returns and return information because his party recently gained control of the house. president trump was and is their political opponent and they want to use the information to damage him politically. so for all those reasons, they say the court should not honor this request from the committee
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on ways and means. as you know, the justice department most recently said that there's a federal statute that says if congress asked for individual returns it should get them and that's the end of the matter. what the trump lawyers say is that never before has that authority been used to get the returns of any elected official, much less any president or former president. so for all of these reasons, they say the judge should block this request, the justice department will respond to this later. >> but of course it does then imply that the information we would learn would, in fact, be damaging. pete williams, thank you so much. coming up, teachers want students back in the classroom, we all do. but why are so many teachers against a vaccine mandate? we'll be asking the head of one of the largest teachers union. new calls for new york governor andrew cuomo to resign after an investigation alleges he sexually harassed 11 women. we'll talk to the lawyer of one of those women next. the open r
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new york, more fallout from the state attorney general's report which alleges governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed almost a dozen women, including employees, and violated state and federal laws. cuomo continues to deny touching anyone inappropriately or making inappropriate sexual advances, saying, quote, the facts are much different than what has been portrayed. today four democratic governors
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from nearby states are calling on him to resign. joining this huge list of new york lawmakers who also want him to go, along with president biden. gabe gutierrez is digging into this story. now there's a criminal investigation into cuomo, but he's not resigning. is he going to get impeached? >> reporter: well, stephanie, state lawmakers here in albany, even democrats, are actively discussing impeachment. as you mentioned, governors from neighboring states, including pennsylvania, connecticut, and new jersey, are calling for his resignation. but the governor remains defiant and is strongly denying the allegations against him. governor cuomo, once the nation's leading voice in the fight against covid, is now facing the threat of impeachment and mounting calls to resign. >> are you now calling on him to resign? >> yes. >> reporter: a sweeping investigation by the new york attorney general's office alleges that the governor sexually harassed 11 women, a pattern of behavior that
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included nine current and former state employees, and a state trooper assigned to his security detail. >> this investigation has revealed conduct that corrodes the very fabric and character of our state government. >> reporter: the report details multiple accusations of unwanted touching and inappropriate comments, and on at least one occasion where cuomo and his senior staff tried to retaliate against an accuser. >> what was the culture? words that witnesses have used repeatedly to describe it include toxic, hostile, abusive. >> reporter: the report describes several encounters with a woman dubbed executive assistant number one. >> executive assistant number one, reached under her blouse to grab her breast. >> reporter: other encounters included kisses on the cheek, forehead and at least one kiss on the lips. the report also alleges the governor sexually harassed
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trooper number one on multiple occasions, running his fingers across her stomach and down her back. governor cuomo forcefully denying the allegations in a prerecorded statement. >> that is just not who i am. politics and bias are interwoven throughout every aspect of this situation. >> reporter: the governor showing photos of himself regularly embracing people. >> i try to put people at ease. i try to make them smile. i try to connect with them. >> reporter: this civil investigation does not involve criminal charges, but the albany county d.a. is now looking into the case. the new york state assembly speaker says that cuomo has lost the confidence of the democratic majority here. still it could take a month for the assembly to finish its impeachment inquiry and draw up the articles of impeachment. we actually have breaking news from my colleague, tom winter, who reports that nbc news has
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obtained a letter from the westchester county d.a.'s office to the new york attorney general requesting materials from the investigation. that d.a. now says he's involved because some of the alleged conduct by governor cuomo occurred there. stephanie. >> all right, gabe, thank you. let's dig deeper and bring in employment and sexual harassment attorney general debra katz who represents charlotte bennet, cuomo's former aide who accused him of harassment. thank you for being here. she repeatedly said she believes her client and the women in this report. it is great to get that support, but ultimately what is charlotte looking for? >> charlotte is looking for the vindication she got yesterday. what she's ultimately looking for is for the governor to be held accountable here. we had hoped when the investigation began, we said
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let's wait for the facts. we have the facts and now he's responding in a belligerent fashion and is blaming the victims for his behavior and saying, essentially, they lied. what's significant in this report is that charlotte was texting friends, parents, and others live time about the governor's sexual harassment, and then she went and reported it immediately. and if you see the report, it includes handwritten notes from the governor's inner circle, his chief of staff, chief counsel, documenting exactly what charlotte reported that the governor did. they said under oath that they believe charlotte, she's credible. they, too, dropped the ball, transferred charlotte and enabled him to continue to sexually harass other women. what charlotte is looking for here is accountability. the governor must resign. if he does not do so, he must be impeached. >> then i actually want to share what charlotte said last night,
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and she's not accepting his apology. watch this. >> he is normalizing not only victim blaming, but sexual harassment. i think his comments are dangerous. i think it sends a message to new yorkers that sexual harassment is not important, that it is not dangerous. it is. >> so cuomo says he accepts responsibility, but she wants consequences, not words. the new york assembly speaker would be the person to move the ball forward on impeachment. is she talking to him? >> not directly. she would welcome that opportunity. she's agreed to cooperate fully with any impeachment proceeding. but what is significant here is that other leaders have made it clear that they do not believe his defenses, that they believe the women, their versions were consistent, credible, documented. and if you were a ceo of any
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other company, he would be fired. his behavior is unacceptable, it's unlawful, it's in violation of the very laws that he signed. and the governor continues to say that these young women who came to work for him, because they believed in him, they're democrats, they're progressives, that they have a political bias, that is absurd. it's absolutely absurd. they have no bias. they actually worked very hard for him and believed in him. and then he violated their trust. >> then when you look at this report, is this about one lewd act or event, or when you pull it altogether, is this about a toxic culture, conduct that is simply unfit for office? >> of course it is. but more than that, it violates the law of sexual harassment. the governor created a sexually hostile work environment. that is unlawful. and his enablers, his top staff, knew it, reported it to one
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another, talked to him about it, and then just routinely transferred women out when the governor crossed the line. nobody reined in his behavior. under the law that the governor signed, everybody in top new york state government needed to take mandatory sexual harassment training. that's the law the governor signed. yet we now know that he probably never took that training and he had his staff forge his signature on a certification, even though the law specifically requires sexual harassment training. the governor violated the law that he signed into law with great fanfare, again and again. there need to be consequences, not only for him, but his top staff that enabled the sexual harassment and created the hostile environment. >> i want to talk about civil action. are you suing him personally or
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are you suing the office? and if it's the office, who pays if there's a settlement? >> well, at this point charlotte is suing no one. her purpose in coming forward was to support lindsey bollin when she first came forward because the governor tried to smear her. as we know, there was a concerted effort from his top staff to smear her and that's why charlotte came forward. she discharged her civic duty and she would like to see the process continue. we now know that other d.a.s are looking at the conduct and there are other issues that the office is still investigating that i think the governor is in real trouble for, which deal with his book, which deal with his covid response, his misuse of government resources to have employees helping him with his book and other personal matters. and that's still a matter of investigation. his legal trouble will continue to go on. he has many areas of liability
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here. >> thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it. turning now to the latest out of surfside, florida. more than one month, new body camera footage from first responders on the scene shows the terror that played out just moments after the building went down. debris, calls for help and reaction from those first responders can all be seen and heard. we have to warn you, the video we're about to show you is disturbing. >> [ bleep ]. where are you? are you okay? >> no! >> are you okay? is anybody down there injured? >> yes. >> what's wrong with her? give me a second. i'm going to go around. >> that collapse killed a total of 98 people. authorities are still investigating what exactly happened, as the families of those 98 victims still have so many unanswered questions. coming up, senators are
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the infrastructure bill has slowed to a crawl as senators debate a crush of new
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amendments. nbc's garrett haake is on capitol hill. let me get this straight. republicans who fought the bill and won't support the final version are the ones getting their own amendments included? i'm so confused. >> reporter: that's exactly right. we saw a vote from an amendment from mike lee yesterday, who is definitely not going to support this bill and we expect to see an amendment from ron johnson today, who will almost certainly not support this bill. what you're seeing is one of the unique things about the senate, which is the way in which any individual senator can slow the process down and there are tactical decisions to be made by democrats, which is to say maybe it's easier to just give an amendment vote on an issue they care about. that would be faster than letting this senator slow each individual step of the process down. that's kind of the calculation that chuck schumer is making here, to just keep this process going, knowing that as he stands right now, he's got the votes. and it's easier to not give someone a process excuse to oppose the bill or slow it down further when he knows that their amendments are the kind of
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things that are going to fail anyway. >> is there anything majority leader chuck schumer can do to speed this thing up? he wants to get this done. once we go into recess, they lose all momentum. >> reporter: that's exactly right. i think his office would argue that allowing these amendments is faster than allowing senators to throw a wrench in the process and stop things completely. at some point, though, he's going to have to make a decision about cutting off debate and moving on to the final votes here. yesterday mitch mcconnell publicly warned him, saying don't do that yet. my members want to see a slightly longer process. i think for schumer he has been very clear, they will not go home until this and the budget resolution that they need to start that democrat-only bill are both passed. i think he's willing to take the time that is necessary here, knowing he has the thread of you guys don't get to go home until we're done with this. >> all right, garrett haake, thank you. now we turn to ohio and the results from two special
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google, netflix and tyson a shout-out for stepping up. but in our schools, many teachers aren't ready to accept a vaccine mandate. the new york state teacher's union said this week it opposes required vaccines. here's what i don't get. they fought against in-person learning because of health risks for months, so why wouldn't they support the one thing that would definitively minimize those risks? joining us, american federation of teachers president, head of the second largest teacher's union in the country. thank you for being here. schools require kids to get vaccinated for several diseases and covid is far too serious to just encourage the vaccine. why shouldn't teachers be mandated? >> if i may, let me just say two things quickly, stephanie. number one, in new york schools were open virtually all of last
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year, one of our locals, what they actually said was that we should have vaccines or testing, and they supported vaccines. to your specific question, the national union is doing two things. number one, doing everything we can to get kids back to school this september. in fact, i am in montana today as part of that back-to-school effort. and number two, 90%, we've been supporting getting vaccines since we started -- since they were authorized. 90% of our members have gotten them. and to your real question, before you roll your eyes at me, the difference that we're trying to do right now is we're trying to convince the holdouts, because we need to have a good back to school. there's been so much trauma that
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we need everyone to feel welcome and safe in school, and we're trying to convince. that's what unions do. the 10% of holdouts to actually get a shot in the arm. >> okay, i'm not rolling my eyes at anything, but i do want to go back. when you say new york city schools were open -- >> no, no, new york state. >> i live in new york city. >> new york state schools were open. new york state schools, most new york state schools were open for most of the year. and what happened is that i was on cuomo's reopening committee and we had the kind of protocols that kept a lot of people safe for a lot of the time. there's a tremendous amount of disinformation and distrust, particularly in upstate new york. and what the union is trying to do, and that's part of why we put $5 million out there as part
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of this get out, get back to school campaign, is to try to overcome this doubt, this disinformation. think about it, just last week i was on "meet the press" with chuck todd and i had a 20 minute interview and it was clear that we were about getting back to school and trying to make sure that everyone felt safe and comfortable. and fox took one word i used and said i was hedging. this is about trying to create the climate where everybody feels that they are safe and welcome back to school. >> okay, but how about spending that 5 million bucks on the kids who are behind in a year's worth of learning rather than spending it on encouraging teachers? just mandate it. we're now mandated to get the vaccine fi want to go to a bar or a restaurant. this is about the kids, not how the teachers feel. >> i agree with you.
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90% of the teachers have vaccines. it's probably larger than that right now. that $5 million is being spent on going door to door to parents' homes to talk to them about safety. we have lots of parents across the country that are scared. they want the mask mandates. they want other types of things. that data, i think, is wrong. we have seen that 90% of our members in terms of the department of education in new york city have the vaccines. we stood up vaccine clinics. we've given grants to 30 states, 1,800 locals to get not only schools back open, but to make sure we have a safe climate. and at the end of the day, just like what bill de blasio just said and others said, if this doesn't happen, if we can't get this done, then obviously we're going to have to consider the next steps, because you're absolutely right, these things, like a small pox vaccine, polio
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vaccine, all of these other vaccines, when they're trusted, they become part and parcel of the school environment. but the point right now i'm trying to make is that if we don't create a climate that everybody feels like it's safe, it's welcome, it's joyful, and we keep on having this disruption, it's not going to help kids. and that's what we've been trying to do since may. >> let's go to new york city, because education -- education department employees in new york city were eligible to get the vaccine since january 11th. eight months later, only 40% -- excuse me, 40% are not vaccinated. at this point, a campaign about making them feel well isn't going to do anything. how do you get them vaccinated without a mandate? >> stephanie, our numbers -- first off, it was the union that set up some of those vaccination centers and got thousands of people vaccinated.
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our numbers are different. our numbers are that basically 90% of the educators, the people in the classroom, have it. so what we're doing this month is we're really trying, we're encouraging not only teachers, but we're encouraging kids and their families to do this. and we believe that if they don't do it, they have to subject themselves to a test to make sure that people are safe. the issue becomes, how do we get through this hump of the last resisters in terms of just making sure that we organize, that we ensure that everybody feels safe in schools. i have been through all across the country the polarization right now. new york has an issue about making sure that the last 10%, 20% get vaccinated. in florida, where you and i have both spent a lot of time, we're fighting to even get people to wear masks in schools.
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so the polarization is deep. we need to stop schools from being that kind of battlefield. so that is why we are trying. we are, i am 100% in favor of vaccines and we are trying to get the last 10% vaxed. >> you said on our network that the union will try to open up schools in the fall. that's a lot different from bill de blasio who is say we will absolutely 100% open up schools. can you clarify that? >> thank you, stephanie. i said on your network in that interview a lot of things, and in one sentence i used the word "try" and in 20 other minute i said yes, we have to open schools totally, fully, five days a week. we have not retreated from our commitment. we know we must open up schools. we know it's vitally important for kids, and that's part of the reason why i am on the road this week, five different states, to
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actually get schools open and to lift up the incredible work of teachers and children. that's what that $5 million is going to. we need kids to be in schools. we need them to be safe. >> we certainly do. i'm a product of new jersey public schools and i am forever grateful for every teacher that i ever had. thank you so much for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thank you, stephanie. come up, a big night for the u.s. track and field team in the olympics, with two women breaking world records in the 400 meter hurdles final. we'll go live to tokyo for the latest. ening to my goals and making plans. this is us talking tax-smart investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest. this is andy reminding me how i can keep my investing costs low and that there's no fee to work with him. here's me learning about schwab's satisfaction guarantee. accountability, i like it.
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sydney mclaughlin winning gold in the 400 meter hurdle setting a new world record, beat out dalilah muhammad who secured the silver with a time that would have set the new record, if not for her teammate. gives me the chills to talk about. it was a big day for trenton's 19-year-old phenom athing mu takes gold in the 800 meter final, setting a new world record in the process. stephanie gosk is in tokyo. i get the chills just talking about this and you're there in person. this 800-meter race was epic and team usa's first gold in the event since 1968. >> listen, steph, i don't want to make you jealous or anyone else for that matter, we're super fortunate to be here, but i was actually at track and field for that race last night. we had an incredible vantage point. we watched athing mu win that race and i'm going to tell you, i didn't know too much about her
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back story in that moment, and i've since learned about it. i know she's from your home state. she's from trenton, her family's from south sudan, they moved to the u.s. 20 years ago. so she was born in the u.s. let me tell you a little bit about that race. it's two laps around, 800 meters is two full laps around and she was so graceful and in such ease the entire time, it didn't even really look like she was running. everyone else was gassed, grasping for straws, hoping to get at her and they just couldn't. she just, she won that, she didn't just win it, she won it handily. since then she said it's been so long, 1968 since a u.s. woman won that race that she came here to make history, and that's exactly what she did, and you know, it's another feather in new jersey's cap, as it were, steph. >> if we needed another, you know what a special place this
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is. you made me jealous, stephanie, where do we stand in the medal count? >> here is where it stands on the medal count. the u.s. is ahead of china, 74 -- it changed, 76, i'm looking at your numbers different than mine. 76-69 but china's ahead in the gold medals, they have us by about seven. things rapidly unfolding here, and there's always that kind of argument, who is really in first, the country with the most golds or the country with overall wins. there's still a lot of games to be had, and it's kind of a neck-and-neck race between the u.s. and china. >> well, we know who i'm pulling for, team usa! stephanie, thank you so much. enjoy your last couple of days there. that wraps up this hour. i'm stephanie ruehl. hallie jackson picks up breaking news coverage on the other side of the break. just ask fifth class this week rashida... rashida: dan, no pain, no gain. okay? dan: yeah i know, it's just...hello? claire, what? fire?
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