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are seemed to being our new normal. with that, that's our broadcast on this back to work monday night. with my thanks to chris jansing in l.a., for allowing me to thoroughly disappear for a while. with our thanks to you for being here with, us on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, goodnight. tonight, on a limb. >> as a former united states attorney and tierney general for 20 years, there's a real potential here for criminal charges. that should be seriously considered. >> harrowing new details on trump's attempt to steal the election through the justice department. is it time for criminal charges against? him then, we will make our own health choices, we will not show you a passport, we will not wear a mask. >> as republicans play political games with a deadly pandemic. >> we are hospitalizing record numbers of children.
half of the children in our hospital today are under two years of age. the >> kids are getting sick with covid. the rising cases across the country. in a cataclysmic report and the state of the planet. >> this report tells us that recent changes in the climate are wide spread, rapid and intensifying. >> senator ed markey and the need for a green new deal, and so much more to stop the climate catastrophe. when all in starts right now. we right now we good evening from washington d.c., i'm in fricassees. donald trump, is a man who's rise to political prominence was almost defined. by one phrase, locker. up it was everywhere during his 2016 campaign against hillary clinton. and remains a trump crowd favor, even today. despite it being based on nothing. but it raises the question, how come more people are not calling for donald trump to be
locked up. i mean the great irony of him going after his opponents, and wanting to imprison them? is that he is the guy who actually committed crimes, in the highest office in the land. but many democrats, many journalists. are still so nervous about simply stating what we are stating tonight. donald trump's, many attempts to overturn the election, were criminal. we are violations of the law. so why is donald trump, not charged with any crimes? why is he chilling at his golf resort, a free bird? why is there no legal accountability for trump himself, and what is the department of justice doing, these are all urgent and legitimate questions that need to be asked, especially considering what we are learning about trump's efforts to manipulate that same justice department, to try and stay in power. chris has talked at length on this show, about trump's ally, the department of justice, the former acting head of the civil division, a guy named jeffrey
clark. and how clark proposed that his acting attorney general jeffrey rosen assigned a letter to officials in multiple states, encouraging the legislatures descend new electors, based on nonexistent voter fraud. that is something that would have thrown the postelection process into chaos. the new york times reported in january, that when the acting attorney general refused. clark colluded with trump behind his back. then informed mr. rosen that the president intended to replace him, who could then try to stop congress from certifying the electoral college results. that plan thankfully failed. but now, the reports say the acting attorney general has confirmed the plotting, to investigators, in two separate interviews, he told the justice department watchdog and congressional investigators, that one of his deputies try to help former president donald j trump, subvert the results of the 2020 election. democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut set in on this testimony, before
the senate judiciary committee, and said the american people should hear what he heard. >> they deserve to know, what we have heard so far. which amounts to, a chilling, and shocking, picture of a president, seeking to corrupt the department of justice. and overthrow an election. >> yet today, eight months later, donald trump, and jeffrey clark, the guy who tried to overturn the election, they are not behind bars, they are not facing any criminal charges, they're not even considered pariahs. clark just landed a cushy job at the right wing news civil liberties alliance. suing universities for vaccine mandates, and trying to get the eviction moratorium lifted. so again, i ask, why hasn't the
justice department got after clark or more importantly trump? we already have so much evidence that the then president incited the january 6th insurrection. we know that house republican leader kevin mccarthy called trump in the middle of the attack, on the capital, begging him to call off the dogs. this is our lead impeachment manager, summed up in the response earlier this year. >> the president said, well kevin, i guess these people, meaning the mobsters, the insurrectionists, are more upset about the election than you are. that conduct is obviously, in parcel of the constitutional offense that he was impeached for. namely, incitement to insurrection. that is continuing incitement. >> to the insurrection, the conduct described not only perpetuated his continuing events, but also provides us,
here today, further decisive evidence of his intent, to incite the insurrection, in the first place. >> since then, since that impeachment trial, we have only gotten more evidence of trump's crimes. so, what would you say if you saw this happening in another country? in venezuela, or turkey. or baylor ousts. we would be calling it a coup attempt. we would be calling for the coup plotters to be prosecuted. held to account. obviously here in the u.s., we are in uncharted waters. we've never charged president, sitting or former with a crime, richard nixon did not even come close to what trump is done, when it became clear he was going to be impeached he resigned. exactly 47 years ago today. he left the white house, he left american politics. when donald trump lost his reelection, bit he did everything he could to stay in power. republicans go on and on about the founding fathers, and with
the founding fathers want, will, the founders gave us the tool of impeachment. to get rid of corrupt authoritarian presidents, donald trump was impeached not once but twice, for misusing his office to try to remain in power. once by extorting a foreign government to announce an investigation into the bidens. in one's for inciting a riot to disrupt the transfer of power. republicans have two chances to stand up and do something, in defensive democracy. and both times they failed. but hey, the constitution aber's another round of media for corruption -- of the 14th amendment states that no person should hold any office, civil or military, under the united states or any state, having previously taking an oath to support the constitution of the united states, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same were given eight or comfort to the enemies thereof. if you engage in insurrection, the constitution says, you cannot hold elected office. it is very clear, why is that
article not being invoked against people, who this clearly applies to? some legal experts argue it only requires a simple majority in both houses. so why not invoke it against trump? otherwise, we are not looking at a future, we are looking at a future otherwise, where donald trump not only gets away with well documented crimes, and dodges prison, but we're also looking at a future where donald trump runs for president again. and winds, by hook or by crook. joining me now is cynthia, see a former prosecutor in the justice department civil rights division. thanks so much for coming on the show this weekend. given now what we know about donald trump's role in the january 6th insurrection, and his role in trying to get the doj to steal the election. why is he not behind bars and tonight or at least not indicted. >> the question is why haven't we started rendering vest again. i think the first answer to
that is that the attorney general, is cautious, and he wants to make sure it's done right. and he's trying to write the shift of the department of justice that became so political. to do this he wants to do it in a political way and take his time. the congressional investigation is going forward, the ig investigation is going forward, and we are learning new things. eight months later we're learning about this crazy guy clark, who is under the impression that china was spreading information, that china was actually changing voting machines. through thermostats. and we're just learning that. but think of all the things we need to know still, in order to get these witnesses, after all you say, we impeached him twice, but we don't convict him either time, let's not forget that, in one of the reasons why is because we didn't lockdown the witnesses. and what i'm saying, is in a lot of people are saying in the justice department's, let's get these witnesses locked down, for example, why do we have this impeachment, and mccarthy was never put in the grand jury
or sworn under oath. he had conversations with the president, as it was happening. that's important to know. what about all the people who are in the room, when he was being begged to do something. those people need to be in the grand jury. senator tuberville, who took the call from him. he needs to be in the grand jury, raffensperger, rosen, not clark, all these people need to go. but let me give you one cautionary worried about this. and i'm very concerned about this, and that is, you're too young to remember this, but, when oliver north was convicted, and charged because he was selling arms to iran in taking the money and giving it to the el salvador eons, he was charged, and the congress got involved and they forced him to testify with immunity. after, that was done, he can never be prosecuted, because it was all tied up in his immunity testimony for congress. it's very important the way congress does, this they don't screw up the grand jury.
in so i do think, the attorney general is being very cautious to make sure there's no chance, a we get the information we need, bead we get the witnesses we, need see we get the call logs we, need the documents, we find out who were all the people below of. >> you make excellent points there. just to clarify, out for north was -- is merrick garland the right guy to hold donald trump to account? he's been criticized by some rumbles of not being aggressive enough. >> i don't think it matters. he is the guy. he's the guy we got. that's the horse we're on. and he's cautious, any smart, and he's good, and he's going to go more slowly than you want him to, but he's going, for example, everybody was angry, he's doing nothing about civil rights, and nothing's happening, and now what do we know, in the civil rights division, my old office, minneapolis, phoenix, they're all under investigation, he moves more slowly than you want him to. but he does in fact move.
>> i hope you are right, thanks so much for your insights tonight. i appreciate it, we democratic congressman of california is a member of the house judiciary committee which oversees department of justice. also the house impeachment manager, earlier congressman, what donald trump tried to do with the doj. well some officials in the doj. was to try to overturn the election. he tried to do a coup did he not? >> he absolutely did when we did a house impeachment trial, i presented this section on foreign presidents efforts, to overturn the election. by pressuring the department of justice. and just make stuff up. we knew there's a lot of bad things that were happening. we couldn't get our hands on the evidence. i'm very pleased that jeffrey rosen is now stepping forward, and providing actual testimony. for investigators and i urge the department of justice to really look at what goes into this. we've >> given you agree it was
a coup. given the importance of these officials, why weren't jeffrey clark and other doj officials called as witnesses, at the impeachment trial in the senate earlier this year. that seems like a huge missed opportunity. >> because what would happen in these republicans would've objective. and we would still be doing the impeachment trial right, now litigating those objections, in court. that was a problem. it was the timing of. it we knew the republicans would object. when people step forward voluntarily, like mr. rosen, that solve the problem. i also want to know that i looked at these election logs, from my perspective as a foreign prosecutor, in 18 united states code five 95, clearly says that it's a federal crime to use official authority to interfere with or affect a federal election. jeffrey clark did that. he should be investigated. >> how do democrats prevent donald trump, from running again? given what he's already done?
the damage is already done to mock or see. not just in a doj sense, but physical damage to the building you serve in. he's using the 14th amendment, a possibility? and if not why not? >> the goal is not to prevent the former president from running again, it should be to hold him accountable, for the last four years, it's overwhelming that he committed, and violated federal campaign finance laws, the same law that landed his coconspirator in prison. and now with this attempted coup, i hope the department of justice, looks at all the evidence and they do whatever normal investigation they would do for anybody in america. because no one should be above the law. not the president, not the former president. >> you're right, we've heard a lot of democrats say that. i'm just looking for the action. so one last question, i'll ask you when asked cynthia moment ago. is merrick garland the right guy to hold donald trump to account.
some says he has not been aggressive enough, where's the grand jury? >> he has not been -- it's been about half a year so far, so i'm willing to give him a chance to look at all the evidence, again, it's very clear under these federal election law, as you cannot use official authority, to interfere with or effect a federal election, when i presented an impeachment trial was very clear, that's exactly what the doj officials, such as clark were doing, and it's exactly what the former president was trying to do, by pressuring justice to overturn the election. >> indeed he was. congressman, thank you so much for your time tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> he sends a criminal referral to the justice department and dr. fauci, he introduced a bill to bask mandates on public transport, and he went to the gym waiting for his coronavirus test results. but even by rand paul standards, his latest pro covid tirade, is
something else. >> president biden, we will not accept your agencies mandates, or you reported moves toward a lockdown. no one should follow the cdc's anti-science, mask mandates. . >> the dangerous political posturing from the senator from kentucky. more on that, after a short break. that, after a shor break.
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2020, the first weeks of the pandemic in this country. well millions of americans were stocking up on food and toilet paper, and hunkering down at home, republican senator rand paul of kentucky was carrying on as usual. he worked out at the senate jim went swimming in the pool, and met fellow lawmakers for lunch. and it turned out he was doing all of that, after he learned that two people at a fund-raiser he attended back home in kentucky, had tested positive for covid-19. while he was waiting for the results of his own test, and march 22nd, rand paul announced that he tested positive, the first senator to do so. but that personal experience with the virus, a high risk situation for the senator who is missing part of one lung, did not change his blasé attitude toward this deadly pandemic. in fact he's since been positively swimming in covid disinformation. >> i have immunity. i've already had the virus so i can't get it again, and i can't give it anybody. i can tell you that locally,
where we've had patients that are sick, they are getting the high trucks-y, and it's at least anecdotal evidence this seems to be working and helping them. we have 11 million people in our country, who already had covid, we should tell them to celebrate, tell them to throw away their masks and go to restaurants and live again. because these people are now immune. what doctor fauci does not want to admit any of. that he's like no, whoa is me. >> now, rand paul is still spewing nonsense. yesterday he released this unhinged, two minute video, urging americans to resist cdc guidelines. >> it's time for us to resist. they can't arrest all of us. they cannot keep all of your kids home from school. we don't have to accept the mandates, lockdowns and harmful policies of the tyrants of bureaucrats. we can simply say no. not again. nancy pelosi, you will not arrest or stop me or anyone on my staff from doing our jobs.
we have either had covid, had the vaccine, or been offered the vaccine. we will make our own health choices. we will not show you a passport. we will not wear a mask, we will not be forced into random screenings in testings. so you can continue your power rain over the capital. no one should follow the cdc's anti mask mandates. >> it's easy to laugh at republicans like rand paul, in the in the same things that they say and do for attention. but this stuff is dangerous. some might say it's incitement. >> we have a former democratic state lawmaker in kentucky, who's running against rand paul and next year's an election. in the former adviser to praise president mike pence, where she worked on the white house coronavirus task, where she is now director of the republican accountability project. thank you both for joining me this season. you have diabetes i believe. so as a person with an underlying condition, does your opponent rand paul's
disinformation campaign about covid, feel kind of personal? >> it absolutely is personal, i've had to ration my insulin, i nearly died from, it and i know i'm a high-risk. in my wife and i are preparing to have our third daughter at any moment now. i've lost an uncle to covid, this is not a game, we are in a moment where a pandemic, has cost us so much loss, and we need leadership to fight her way forward. and instead of, that he sticks to conspiracies. he's trying to find the bogeyman. and he's inciting lawlessness in fearmongering, and it's going to cost us lives. and we have to stop it. >> it is going to cost us lives. it's deeply depressing. olivia, the nonsense is coming not just from rand paul. but many members of your party, including your former boss the president donald trump, was on fox news over the weekend, complaining that people would have said he did a horrible job if you are president during covid. have a listen. >> first of all can you imagine
if i were president right now and we had this massive attack, from the coronavirus, you know how they like to call it, they have new names, they have other new names, but it's exactly what we had, we had the same thing. if that were me they be saying what a horrible thing, with a horrible job. >> imagine if we had a horrible attack from the coronavirus, donald trump says. i'm pretty sure you are in the white house when there was, when and he failed us. >> imagine that. imagine how many meetings i sat in, when negligent behavior took place. imagine how many negligent statements were made. during the oval office. when donald trump was sitting there. as chief of our entire country, during this large pandemic, that was the largest of our generation and continues on today. look at the origin is right there. it started from day one. this divisiveness, on covid started with him, in a continues, this legacy continues today. in this negligent shameful behavior, by people who call
themselves, or who are elected officials, who are undeserving in my opinion, of the title, of title of u.s. senator for rand paul, case in point who is one of the major superspreaders i would say of misinformation on covid, and other conspiracy theories. they're undeserving of elected to assess. they're negligent and they're putting americans continuously at risk. he is inciting people, we've already seen fights over mask mandates, we've seen people how angry they are, the way they behave. we've see that this type of rhetoric, encourages this behavior. by their supporters and it's just greed. it's greed for power. to remain in power at whatever cost. and whatever you say. it is horrifying to think that these are the people who are in the leadership of our country right now. we >> yes indeed when we talk about incitement, charles i wonder, what do you make of marjorie taylor greene's latest efforts. it's easy to dismiss her as a
crazy congresswoman. which she speaking at events where people are suggesting people should use their second amendment right if people come to the door to give them vaccine information. basically encouraging the members of the republican base tissue people. that's what we've reached in america in 2021. >> we it's a gross shame. with marjorie taylor greene and rand paul are doing, it's not about freedom. it's not about our constitutional, writes they don't care about that. they are pulling these tricks, these tired old tricks, to cause division. to sow fear. because they believe that's the only way they can win. rand paul is pulling these out in a gross way, because he doesn't want the people to know that he voted against relief in the middle of a pandemic. that he has been opposed few investments in our infrastructure, that he does not support community safety, he wants to put our men and women in uniform at risk. our emergency service at risk. in so they're doing this because they don't want people to realize that they can't lead. but we see through the bs. and that's why i'm running for
u.s. senate to defeat rand paul, more importantly, to build the infrastructure we need to ensure future. so we're ready for the next pandemic. we're waiting for the next crisis. and i'm asking everyone, go to charles booker.org, to stand with us, so we can tell a new story for our future, and get these clowns out of office. >> they're certainly behaving in a clownish, where there is no doubt about that. if texas governor greg abbott, posted a picture of himself with fuel, well estate is burning through the delta outbreak. i have to ask you this question. general question, i'm not trolling here. you worked with these republican politicians with your party. people like abbott, people like desantis, do they care, whether people liver diner stay? i genuinely wonder. do they just not give a damn? apparently by the issuance of the executive orders that they continue to issue, by creating division on this topic continuously. there is no need.
there's no absolutely no need to pushback on mask mandates. and to create division on its. just protect the residents of your state. that's the bottom line, it's a no. do i think they care? it's about a quest for power, it's about doing every antique there is for a soundbite. we know that desantis is lying 2024. and i think he is -- someone like trump should never be like office again. remember. that remember the negligence. and that is what we have right now. with these individuals. and i'm watching all, this the lawsuits going. on in the cruise lines that are trying to protect the people so they can have cruises again. and when does it ever stop? right now, i saw the announcement where abbott is asking for out of state help again. for the health care workers. let's think about them. they have been in this fight on the front line on this pandemic, from day one. and we have their backs. in these governors, are negligent. they just don't care.
>> that is the problem. they really just do not seem to care. and from governors to senators. it's just more misinformation. more nonsense day after day, and people are literally dying it's unbelievable. we have to leave it there. thank you both so much for your insights tonight. i appreciate. it with school about to start, and more and more younger kids coming down with covid, where is the vaccine for them? alaska top pediatrician about that ahead. don't go away. ahead don't go away.
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the covid vaccines are incredible. they are not perfect, they never were, and even with the number of breakthrough infections thanks to the highly infectious delta variant, the vaccines are still our only way out of this pandemic. they are only real path to getting back to a lot of the things we used to do. we still in the uk began allowing vaccine travelers from the u.s. to come into england
and scotland without having to quarantine. which allowed me to do something i have not done for nearly two years, see my parents. i thought it would be fun -- if not a bit silly, to surprise them. i disguise myself as an amazon delivery person. as much as my parents were thrilled to see me, they were not as amused as they could be. >> delivery. doctor hassan needs to sign for it. >> it is doctor hassan here? >> is there doctor hassan here? he needs to sign for this. you want me to leave it? >> yeah. >> you sure you want me to leave it? he sure? >> who is it? what is it?
who are you? who are you? [laughs] that was truly a lot of fun. to be honest, i didn't realize how much the separation had affected me until i got there and we really got to spend some quality time together. all of this was the result of us being fully vaccinated me and my parents. uk has nearly three quarters of the population fully vaccinated. they have yet to prove the vaccine for most of their population under 18. only half of the population is vaccinated in, u.s. which includes kids 12 and over. some of these countries lowest vaccinated areas, here we see the disturbing trend. more and more kids are being hospitalized with covid. we will talk about that and the renewed push to authorize vaccines for kids under 12 next. >> r 12 next >>
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the prevalence rate of covid among our out patients coming to the clinic has increased from one person one month ago, to 7% and now to about 20%. we have 18 children in the hospital today, six in the intensive care unit with a diagnosis of covid 19. half the children in the hospital right now are under the age of two, believe it or not. >> more and more children are getting sick with covid, especially in places with high infection rate and low vaccination rates. places like louisiana, which now has the fastest growing rate of new covid cases among children in the nation. the number of kids with covid doubled in a few days, more than 6000 are now sick. more than half the children being treated in a hospital in baton rouge, are under intensive care because they need respiratory support. and i can tell, and the children's hospital they
administered 23 patients under the age of 18 last week. tenor in the a ceo and five are on ventilators. at texas children's hospital in houston, a number of hospital as these children was in the symptom goal digits several weeks ago and now rose to over 30. it's very worrying as kids across the country, millions of them unvaccinated, get ready to head back to school. doctor joshua shafts dean is a pediatrician he is now the vice deed of the john hopkins skin's bloomberg school of public health. doctor, thank you for coming on the show. for the past 18 months i've had people across the political spectrum claim kids are low risk and covid is not a threat to the. i'm not sure if that was ever really true, but it's certainly not true with the delta variant, is it? >> i think for a long time we've been distracted by just the overwhelming force that covid has for older adults.
if you take that comparison out and look at what's happening to children, because we care about children, the risks are quite high. they are higher than most other diseases kids are encountering. it could get worse. those risks not only include the immediate threat of hospitalization, or worse, but the intermediate threat of immune reaction to the infection and the a long term threat of long covid. there are risks. those risks are not astronomical. every kid can get sick, but we don't really think like that in pediatrics. we think we want to protect rare severe cases of illness in kids, this is a disease that does that. and can cause severe illness in kids. >> there are risks, it could be a severe illness yet, in florida, governor ron desantis seems to do everything in his power to get kids from not wearing masks in school. despite his orders, some
districts are pushing ahead with mask mandates in schools. you have schools tomorrow statewide, opening in florida. what advice do you have four districts and four families sending their kids to school in places like florida, texas, and louisiana? >> this is a moment for school boards and superintendents to look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are really putting the health of children first. if they are, they should listen to the american academy of pediatrics would recommend masks for everyone who could wear them in school to listen for the centers of disease control based on many studies, and a lot of consent to that masks should be worn in school. there is a school district that i am aware of, where the motto is, soaring to greatness, committed to excellence. but they shouldn't have as part of that motto but not putting the health of kids first. school districts should push the requirement to wear it. >> doctor sharfstein you
mentioned the american academy of pediatrics, the afp said to letter to the fda last week saying that the time to authorize masks for 5 to 11 year olds it reads in part. do you agree with that? is it time now to rollout that scenes for under 12 or should we have more data? where do you stand? >> it's important for the appeared to be transparent about the data that has and the reasons for its decisions. i don't know enough, based on the information that's been released to have an answer to your question. i think everybody is a little frustrated at the lack of information not understanding what the decision-making process really is about. i do think it is going to be really helpful to have safe and
effective vaccines for kids 5 to 11, but you cannot rush the science. if the time isn't right, it's not right. i just hope the uptake can really explain the situation so that people aren't guessing and wondering, and thinking that moved the agency could've moved faster. >> it's one of those interesting debates for parents. we hear a lot in the news about parents who don't want their children to get a vaccine, don't want their children to wear a mask. we don't often hear from parents, like myself, who actually i am keen for my kid who is under the age of 12 to get vaccinated. i'm wondering when that will be. i'm concerned about my child going back to school and not knowing with the situation in the classroom is without the peoples masks, with the rising delta -- i wonder, how do you give a voice -- because we heard so much about the parents who don't want to get their kids vaccinated. are we given enough voice to those who are worried about our kids and worried about our kids going back to school?
>> there are a lot of parents who are very worried about the kids going back to school. i heard from a health official in maryland who said parents were picketing because they wanted their kids to be safer and wanted to see appropriate reasonable mitigation measures put in place so that kids can go to school safely. i don't think it's too much to ask school boards and superintendents to follow the guidelines of pediatricians in the united states about what keeps kids safe. it's very frustrating. a lot of these parents are working, the can't stop everything they are doing and go in protest and demand things when it's just shocking. the decisions aren't made in the best interest of the children. i know many parents who are starting to do that now. >> yeah. you are 100% right. it is shocking that people are willing to throw kids under the bus. doctor joshua sharfstein thank you for your input tonight.
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has reached a code red. we are warned that a new rising global crisis is not a matter of which, but how much. it doesn't take a study to see what is happening around. us look at the dixie fire. the largest single fire in california history, tearing through the golden state. this devastating assessment of our planet's health makes clear that the worst is yet to come. right now, the best-case scenario is limiting the rising global temperatures to 1.5
degrees celsius, for about 2.7 degrees fahrenheit. even that scenario will still result in frequent intense heat waves, and rising sea levels of 1 to 2 feet. and again, that is the best we can hope for. even reaching that goal will require a massive investment from the united states, which is the biggest carbon emitter in history. the new bipartisan senate infrastructure bill is the start, and breaking news, there will be a vote on that tomorrow morning. what more needs to be done? joining me now is democratic senator ed markey of massachusetts. he's the senate of the task force and a leading sponsor of the green new deal. senator markey, thank you for coming on the show. this bipartisan infrastructure bill that's about to be passed in the senate, a lot billions of dollars for renewable energy, electric vehicles, which is great. it also contains billions in ongoing subsidies for a fossil fuel companies which is bad. is this on climate change yet
again two steps forward and one foot back? >> no. we are going to now respond to the code red for humanity. we are going to take this as a final warning that we must take bold dramatic action. the planet is running a fever and there are no emergency rooms for planets. we have to take action. we are going to start the debate tomorrow or wednesday on a green on a budget resolution that will respond to the code red. in that bill, we are going to have tax breaks for wind and solar and all electric vehicles and for battery storage technologies. we are going to have a clean energy standard. we are going to have a civilian climate core. we are going to have a climate bank to fund projects in every city across our country. we will go big and a green
budget resolution and it's going to be a response within the same week that the climate scientists of the world, the un, say it's the national security the economic moral issue of our time. and we will begin to respond. >> while you're responding there, they sound like measures where the green new deal you are one of the architects of. is that something you are allowed to say, or are you worried republicans will lose their mind when you say it because they so successfully demonize a green new deal and somehow bad on the right? >> no, without question, the green new deal is in the dna of this green budget resolution. all the things that are in we talk about in the green new deal. we have to go even further in the years ahead. we can't stop here, and includes increasing the fuel -- for the vehicles we drive.
it means we have to have a big agreement in glasgow that brings the whole world together later on this year with president biden finally having a piece of legislation which passes, so that the rest of the world sees that we are serious and not the lag or. you cannot preach climate temper from a bar stool. you can't be the worst polluter in history and tell other countries to stop unless you are doing so yourself. >> in terms of kind of being role models, let's talk about your party. how can democrats make progress on fighting climate change? how can they set the right example. on the one hand you have people like yourself speaking very well and vocally about the threat, then you have the office of a fellow democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia meeting regularly from lobbyists. have a listen. >> joe manchin, i talked to his
office every week. he is not shy about a stake in his claim early -- >> when the un says this is a code red, that should be acceptable lobbyist meeting for the democratic senator? >> we will have to work with joe manchin and work with all 50 democrats to pass this bill. we don't expect any republican to bacchus, gop now stands for gas and oil party and their leader donald trump is down in mar-a-lago not even understanding it and we have to take dramatic climate action. we will work with senator manchin and work with all 50 democrats to get the votes to take significant, dramatic climate action in the green budget resolution. i think we can do it. >> if gop stands for gas and oil party, joe manchin fits
into that. let's talk about the gop, according to the liberal center for -- 52% of republicans and and -- our climate deniers. how do you tackle an existential threat to our planet country and way of life when you have an entire political party won't even acknowledge it? >> if 100 senators agreed that 100% of the scientists in the world now agree that it is human caused, greenhouse gases that are creating this kind of crisis, we would be able to solve the problem no problem. we would have a consensus but we don't. the republican party is unfortunately still within the grip of the fossil fuel industry. that's why it's been hard over the years to get these tax breaks for a long number of time for wind, and solar, and all vehicles. we are about to turn the
corner. we will have to do it without republicans. that's the bottom line. i hate to say. we will have to do the same thing for community college making it free intuition and free pre-k to make sure we have a strong family leave policy. all of this will have to be done in this building without republican support. it's a sad commentary on the contemporary state of the republican party and our country but so be it, we will have to work together. chuck schumer is doing a great job. president biden is doing a great job. i think we have to finish it off this week, then begin the process of working with the house to put a bill on the desk of president biden. >> senator, there are reports that some your so-called moderate democratic colleagues in the house are worried about the 3.5 million dollar price tag on the reconciliation bill. senator kissed and sinema is also rejected a bill for that size that you can't build for it. the two bills, the reconciliation bill and the --
have to pass intended. there is no bipartisan bill without the much bigger reconciliation. bills that still nonnegotiable in your bill? interview -- >>? they have to be welded together and cannot be separated. they have to pass together and be heading to the presidents desk together. you can't just break off roads, bridges, broadband. as important as they are, and leave out climate and children and community college and child tax credit. you can't do that. we are going to keep it together all the way to joe biden's desk. when he signs that bill, yeah we will have the roads and bridges, we will also have a bridge up for every family in our country to be able to keep surviving and thriving, in the 20th century, and for the clean revolution that we need in order to lead the world. >> nonnegotiable, love to hear. and senator ed markey thank you
for your time tonight. >> good to be with you, thank you. >> that is all in on this monday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening betty, great to see you my. friend thank you very, very much. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. happy monday. i've been on vacation for the last couple of weeks. been on vacation for th last couple of weeks happy monday. i have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks. first, two-week vacation i have ever had, in my whole life. it was amazing. i want to say a big thank you to the team, here, who held down the fort. c wo thank you to ali velshi and nicolle wallace, and ari melber for filling in while i was away and doing such an amazing job. but we've got -- um -- i feel like -- i feel like the news gods gave me, like, a welcome-back, like, care package. that is slightly over -- overflowing. in terms of the amount of news to process and talk about and get up to date with. so, we are going to jump right in. our first guest tonight is a big deal. and you are going to want to see this interview.f ge um, if -- if you are serving ina the united states' military, right now, as part of your service requirements, you have to get your shots, a bunch