tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC August 18, 2021 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
of all our colleagues at the networks of nbc news. good night. >> thanks to you at home for joining us. we're gonna start tonight with a story, when i start to tell the story you are going to think that you know where it is going. you're gonna think that you know where it's going to end up. i'm telling you, you are wrong about that. this is an amazing story. it happened today. it does not end where you think it does. i don't mean this as a weird cable news tees. i'll just say, i believe it is my experience of having done this show for 13 plus years and knowing what matters to people when we put it to to the world,
this is one of those stories. watch this. stick with me till the end. okay? here we go. september of 2010, the warren afghanistan was closing out its ninth year. and of course for a long time it hadn't been just american troops fighting the war in afghanistan. a lot of our allies joined in the war effort to. for years, for example, the british army had been engaged here, in the town of sank in, in helmand province and that area, helmand province, but that area near sangin was, a cure center for the opium trade. it was also just absolutely swarming with taliban fighters. so on the earlier side of the war, first decade of the war, the british were the ploy there to try to beat back the taliban,
prop up support for the afghan government there. that experience was just absolutely devastating for the british army. by june of 2010, the british had lost around 300 soldiers, total, and all of afghanistan. but nearly a third of that number, nearly a third of all the british older skilled in the entire country in the entire war, were killed in sangin, and just that one single town in afghanistan. the guardian newspaper in the uk called sangin, the puppy town that became a death town for the british army. it wasn't something that was specific to the british. i one point sangin was responsible for 10% of the daily casualties of the entire nato mission, of all the nato countries fighting in afghanistan, not one little town. amid all that bloodshed, amid the disproportionate share of the bloodshed in the war being centered in that one town, by
september of 2010, the british foreign minister announced that sangin was going to go through a serious change, it was no longer going to be britain's problem, primarily. he announced that henceforth, all responsibility for sangin would be taken over by the american military. by a group of u.s. marines. one of those marines, said to perhaps the most dangerous place in afghanistan's, at the most dangerous times of the war, one of the marines was this man 's major thomas schueman. you see him there on the left. over the course of his long service in afghanistan, he served seven astonishingly difficult and intense months in sangin. he says during his seven months there, 25 marines he served with died there, in that one town, more than 200 others were wounded. he recounted one particularly brutal day in sangin to the chicago sometimes. it was the day in which he
earned a purple heart. he told the son times quote my squad leader stepped on an improvised explosive device and he lost his leg. i was blown up. and then my platoon sergeant was blown up in that same blast on that same day. it was one of a couple of times i was blown up on that point appointment. another marine who served in sangin said, they put up a map on the city when they got there, and that one marines vivid description said it looks like someone had sneezed blood although for the map, because the mob was covered in red dots, and every red dot on the map marked a place where the taliban had opened fire on allied troops. just absolutely, absolutely perilous place for those u.s. marines coming in after the british had experienced so much death and so many casualties there. but in sangin, like in so many places in the course of the war, the marines were not there on
their own. they had help. this guy right here, who were gonna show on the screen, there's a red arrow pointing to him, his arms are folded in front of him and he's focused intently on the local guy who is speaking to. the red arrow on that picture is pointing to a young afghan men who goes by the name zak, it's not his real name but that's with the marines called him. he was just 20 years old when he signed up to work within the rains it helmand province. he was an interpreter for the u.s. army, he would help them talk to other afghans like he is doing here. he would not only translate from whatever the local length which wasn't english, he would reverse those translations, he would also tell them in meetings, the meetings of the words that were being used. he was also helpful to the marines and translating radio communications among taliban fighters that the marines were able to intercept technically, but they weren't able to understand or interpret without help from zak. but there is something about
zak that caught major shoe men's attention, here's how he described the first time that he met zak in sangin. quote major shaman concedes he was in a transactional mood on the day he met zak, yet already work for so many different interpreters, but zak was different, he was physically fit, for one, his english was excellent. most of all, he was willing to go to sangin, which many interpreters avoided given the dangers trying. he said quote, i recognize he was a special guy, and i was very lucky to have him. marines and other platoons begin to eye this new addition to the team with envy, but major schueman had no intention of sharing him. the patrols were long and terrifying as the marines made their way through mind territory, towards villages, often being ambushed. a campaign that killed and severely injured scores of troops. i won't point zak over her to taliban fighters from a distance talking on the radios as they organize an attack on
the group of marines plotting slowly towards them information behind an engineer with a metal detector, a metal detector to detect minds. made sure schueman recalls of zak next action he said zack just runs through the field and tackles the guy. he not only obviated the attack, he marked a clear lane with his footprints for the marines to advance. major schueman says quote there is no other interpreted that would be willing to accept that risk. major schueman told the newspaper that zak became quote, one of my marines. eventually major thomas schueman went home, he is now at the naval war college of rhode island but zak stayed behind when the rest of the battalion left. zak was just 20 years old when he started working with the marines, he is now in his early thirties, he is not merrick has a wife and four young kids.
like most afghan interpreters will help u.s. troops zach and his entire family qualify to emigrate to the united states in exchange for the sacrifice they made for our country. our country created a specific visa category specifically for man like zak who helped u.s. troops so than their families who come to the united states. and zach first applied for that visa six years ago. but it hit a snag, because overall zach spent about three years working for the u.s. war effort in afghanistan, in addition for working for major schueman, he also spent time working for u.s. government contractor that was supplying translation services to the u.s. army. in order to get the visa, the special visa that was created for people like him, he needed to prove that he had worked for u.s. troops for two years or more, in order to do that he needed a letter from everybody he worked for including that contractor who set him up to translate for the u.s. army.
he needed that attestation to his service so he could get credit both for his service with the marines but also for his time with the army, he needed credit for both to be able to qualify for the visa. the problem is, the contractor for who he worked for, that contracted as an existing. more like so many military contracting organizations that existed for a moment, provided the service and then proof. but because they are, gone they have left no trace zak has not been able to get a letter from them, they do not exist. and the fact that he wasn't able to get a letter from a defunct contractor that doesn't exist anymore, that was apparently justification enough for denying him a visa. which again, he applied for for the first time six years ago, and it means that he has been stuck in afghanistan ever since, which of course is a very difficult dangerous place to be if you are not against this and to help the united states, especially in so many different fights against the taliban's.
in february or february of last year, february 2020, zak started getting menacing phone calls from the taliban. they told him you are an infidel because you work with the americans. just a few weeks ago, zach received this letter from the taliban. written papers addressed to him, the americans on their way out with the evacuation on their way the taliban making clear in this letter to zak that they know where to find him, and they wanted and intended to kill him for working with u.s. forces. so they've got himself a number, they have his address, they know how to find him, they're telling him that they are going to kill him. zak it's essentially being hunted, so he can't leave his house, let alone work outside his house to support his family. he told the new york times last month can't find a way to live a life, i can't find a way to have a life. after he got that threatening letter from the taliban, zak
and his family did go into hiding, the province where they were living in was taken over by the taliban. their hope was to somehow, miraculously, almost impossibly try to get themselves from that outline province where they were living to kabul, and then once in kabul to get to the airport to try to iron out this long-standing, years long, snagging his visa and then, to see if he and his family could get on one of the last flight out. as the u.s. continues its chaotic exodus out of afghanistan. now if any of the sounds familiar to you, it may be because zak and major thomas schueman actually spoke to us here a few weeks ago with my colleague ali velshi and you may remember that interview. >> zak undoubtedly went above and beyond his duties as an
interpreter, whether that was running through a minefield to detain someone, or picking up a rifle to provide covering fire. zak has made more sacrifices for this country and risk more for this country than most of our citizens. >> now it is your time, our american friends, our american partners time, to help us, and to help us out of this crisis. because the enemy are looking for people who worked with american, and who worked for the american mission, and to find them and kill them and kill their family. we cannot stay. yesterday one of our former interpreters in herat province, the taliban attacked him, killed him, and also in the future, maybe they tyke it us and kill us.
now, please, president, it's your time to help us, and take us out of this crisis. >> zak, working as an afghan interpreter for u.s. forces in afghanistan, his friend major thomas schueman, both of them here on this show together two weeks ago today. now, what's happened in two weeks, beside afghanistan falling in its entirety to the taliban's. back home and rhode island, major thomas schueman has been in repeated contact with zak in afghanistan, trying to do for zak what zak was asking of president biden, take him out of this crisis, help him flee the country. major schueman had helped zak with his visa application, he made phone calls, send zak money -- so he can try to get his family from where they were living and where they were than in hiding to kabul, you have to bribe your way through checkpoints in afghanistan, sometimes with a
large amount of money. it's just a fact of life, ask any journalist who spent time there. you have to break your way through checkpoints. it's just the way things work. knowing this, major schueman sent money to zak to help facilitate his travels in the country so that they could get to kabul, so they could get to the airport to try something. even major schueman's mom trying to help she's a retired police officer and a force in her own right by all accounts, she wrote to both president biden and vice president harris to try to get help from the very top. the senior senator from illinois, dick durbin brought zach's case personally to the attention of secretary of state anthony blinken at a senate hearing. told him the story of second major schueman at an open hearing asking for the secretary of state's help, secretary of state said he would look into it. but zak story has become one in
a course of story about people just like i'm stuck in afghanistan unable to get out despite an explicit promise made by the u.s. government, despite on paper, a specific remedy set up just for them so that they could come to this country with less hassle, less weight in a way that wouldn't get bureaucratically hung this, process was set up to get people like him out and insistence story out of story about this bottleneck and not working and glitches. >> it's not just zak story that is familiar by now, its major sherman story to the experience of all of these american combat veterans in afghanistan who are now working to what amounts to be second full time jobs trying to do with the u.s. government as a whole, hasn't been able to do it quickly enough. the catch and everything where they can, pulling in from every effort, trying to get their guides at the u.s. before the
taliban get him first. it's the excruciating story of -- u.s. afghanistan veterans, so look at some of the headlines of this over the last few, days in the local papers. right? look at this. i'm begging you guys. fort myers veteran, fights to get afghan interpreter home to america. that is in fort myers news press. he was one out of texas, woman fights to bring former student home from afghanistan. here is the philadelphia enquirer. in a couple under taliban control, philadelphia area quakers try to get one man out to safety. here is one and brighton oregon, right there with them, redmond marine works to get translator out of afghanistan. former police contractor pleads for help for former interpreter in afghanistan. here is from looks and mississippi, former marine tries desperately to get afghan colleague out of harm's way. it is, i, mean local papers, local tv stations, a local news coverage, all over the country,
these individual stories, not just the individual afghans where people are trying to get out, but the individual americans, and small groups of americans who have some connection to the sacrifice of these folks, who are now trying to pull all of their american strengths, strings, use their american connections, use all of their american resources to try to pluck these people out of danger. and it's just, i mean, it is inspiring, but it's also obviously this deeply painful, deeply anchoring, frustrating thing for these veterans and these groups that are doing us right now. just desperately trying to get these people out who they know that they work with, in some cases save the lives in afghanistan of the american service members who are now trying to return the favor. right? leveraging any resources that they have before the taliban rounds them all up one by one. call your contacts, call you congressman, call your local tv stations, call your mom. anything, anything that might help. -- thanks in part to major truman
specifically, we know with that effort looks like, not able to characterize in these general terms. we know about it in specific, what it looks like for the veterans back home, the weather pulling on strings for this side, -- major sherman has been chronicling in public specifically on instagram. but also as a way to big to for help to anyone who might see this post, to try to be able to help at all. if zach can get an escort to the airport, we can get him on a plane today. he is 7.5 kilometers from the airport. if you have someone on the ground who can transport his family, please let me know. and if you swipe to the side on that post you would then see that the second thing that he
posted in that post is also this little video of zac's two little kids. two of zack's for young kids. then another day we get an update. zak is at the airport, china funny advocate. anybody who can escort his family to ram eight please let me know. major storm and then shared a photo of zack and his entire family. -- major truman saying, not the ending we hope for, they made a harrowing escape from kunar province to campbell. at 2 am he fled his tiny apartment a couple and walk to the airport, cross multiple teller and checkpoints, barely made it. i told them, meet the marines at the specific airport access point because i had confidence mission that an officer let him through. that officers no one responding to my messages. another officer told me that he would make sure that zak and his family boarded the plane was that access. he has not responded in several hours. it is highly doubtful that he
will still be able to put six family on a plane. finally, a friend who is a contractor so that he would try nascar zach through the perimeter. my friend is at a position that is currently surrounded by taliban and cannot help. zak has four children under five, his youngest daughter is one. she is in the red, sleeping on her mother -- natural happens next, no food, no water. she sitting outside an american access point to the kabul airport. not sure what will happen to them, -- i pray to god every bitter updates moral, but it does not look frothing. that's two days ago. then yesterday, major human was texting with an american on the ground. -- major humans on the right. he's posting in blue. that picture that you posted on the right side of the screen, that is from him. the reason that he's posting that picture is that that is a picture of exactly where zak was standing at the airport.
he's sending every so that picture, does that look about right? the granular details, matter because he's trying to hook zach up with the american, seeing his family can get brothers and put on a plane. the american on the ground to kabul airport confirms yes that is us that is us getting your boy. but no. major shaman posted this photo yesterday, the caption says, we, meaning zach in his family, we were this close today and did not make it. this close. there is a marine in that photo, helping at the airport but they could not get on a plane. major human also posted yesterday this video of zack and his family this close and didn't make it here are his kids crying. and one point it sounds like a gunshot that goes off in the background. this is literally how this it's going, call anybody who has any influence. don't every number in your phone. called a contractor who turns
out to be surrounded by the taliban, call the marine that is near the checkpoint, or could maybe get to the checkpoint, get a picture of zacks exact location. keep texting that officer stop returning your messages. look at the ramp number in kabul. from your kitchen table in rhode island. this is how veterans back home are trying to get their interpreters out. this is not how it was supposed to go, right? this is not the might of the u.s. government. this is not the promise that we made to zach. this is not how are supposed to bring them home. because the hop the next flight, out the window is closing, getting the strong means that these people will get killed. so, you keep doing whatever you can. so today back alley, major chairman started this text chain with zach and with an air force major u.s. air force major, major human again try to play the middleman, here try to remotely put them together from
across the world. it's incredible see the screenshots. the air force captain is trying to get zack to spot him in the chaos. this is the u.s. air force guy explaining what's zach should be looking for. you should be looking for me and two guys in black shirts and envy g, knowing that zak will understand that means night vision goggles. zak, can you look at the tower? he says to zach. zak put your kit with a blue shirt on your shoulders as a way for them to figure out how to spot each other. and zach sends a picture of his exact location at the airport. the air force captain responds, got him. it's a, i'll see you in america. that responded with you videos of his family and rights to make sure -- all seasons are. major sherman shared this photo
zach and his family this morning at the airport before meeting up at the air force captain and, as of this morning he said -- i wasn't sure with the final destination would be but he said that they were safe because they were with the marines. and then look, -- posted nine hours ago, caption this one, two words, wheels up. i'm not, crying you are crying. it's destined here. somebody is chopping onions. major thomas sherman joins us next with ... -- with ... -- because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it, and see what's possible.
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early this morning, quote, i do not know when they will make it on the plane. i don't know their final destination. i do know that through an enormous effort by few individuals, they won't be executed by the taliban. that's all that matters right now, he is with the marines. that post was from marine officer thomas shaman sharing the goodin ooze today that his former afghan interpreter, zak, had made it to kabul airport if you hours later we got this picture of zack and his family with caption, wheels up. it was not easy. zak waited six years for this moment since he first applied for a visit to get out. from rhode island, from all the way from afghanistan, officers truman made it his mission to help him out. joining us now is marine officer thomas truman. he's founder of the -- foundation that helps veteran communities across america. major truman, thank you for being with us tonight, i really
appreciate this on this kind of a huge day. >> that, given thank you for having. the >> first, let me ask if i screwed anything up in trying to describe the story and what you've been through so far. and also if you can bring us more up to date -- if you can give us anything about what's happened is that in his family so far. sure i think your summary was accurate and nothing to add as far as the details, i think you captured -- from what i understand, zach flew out several hours ago. i don't know exactly specifically what time with these landed. i assume that he's had a country in the middle east, if that's in dubai, i'm not sure. he might be headed somewhere in the middle east right now. >> major showman, part of the
reason i want to talk to you about this is that i feel like a lot of americans, particularly americans who are professional, well off, well connected, well integrated into our communities, imagine that we would have resources to brag to their, people to call, strings to poll, influence to exert, wait to throw around to try to make something like this happen. knowing all of the different things that you tried. all the different things that you did to work on this. i can't imagine that if zach had been my interpreter. if i've been trying to do this, i don't know what else i would've done that you didn't do. and still, it just seems like he's barely, barely made it. it feels like this was maximal resources for something that only just barely worked. something >> somebody feels lik? >> we pulled every latter,
poked every bear, is just a series of hail mary's. when the center durban took this cause, and brought it to the top, and we thought that is it, there's sunni close calls moments we thought that we contacted the right person, we had the right solution to this. it was a series of events that continue to unfold and so many close calls, it was a harrowing experience over the last month or two. >> this is a system that was set of, specifically for men like that who provided service to our country had been promise that they keep in safe passes to here in this country to pay
the back for what they did. that system was set up for somebody like him and for all intents and purposes did not work for him until these series of hail mary's like you describe at the very end. do you feel like having been through this, with much have been the relieve that you're feeling today, do you feel like you have anything that you have learned that you can say right now about things that can be done to change that process right now to get people out right now, things that can be done in the short term to fix what is obviously a broken system, at least to save some more lives in the coming days? >> sure, it's worth noting that the system did not work. even though zach is evacuated it's not due to the system and the bravery and heroism of the air force folks it's the marines that rallied around and
picked him up from outside that kate, he's still not successful outside the application, he has not passed the first phase. what could be added to improve the system i think common sense, and a little human aspect if maybe an officer can attest, that i served with this person and puts their name on the line, maybe that could expedite some things the departments say it is actually trying to do their best, but just adding a little common sense that i can attest that this person was there and maybe we can sort everything else out later, it will all work out later if we can get them safe and secure to a third party location then that's all
we need to flush out the details, right now it's every minute every second, it's life and death, and we can't allow some kind of technicality to be the cause of someone ends up being executed. >> let me just ask you this before i let you go major schueman, just how it feels today, having, been through all of these years, have been made this commitment that you made more than a decade ago, and then haven't been through all these years to make it, work and this in incredibly intense periods of months weeks dates hours, to him finally being wheels up, as you said today. do you know how you feel yet haven't actually done it? >> yeah, i think eventually there will be additional feelings to be sorted, out right now i just feel thankful. i feel thankful that we have these 18 year old marines
making these posts, demonstrating that there is no worse enemy, no better friend than a marine, demonstrating our ethos, showing that we do have these young marines holding the lines and making this happen. i'm just grateful for all the people who rallied around that cause and were received. it's important to note that while barr zak made it out, there are thousands like him who do not have the same fixes sea, and there still a lot of work to be done. >> marine infantry officer thomas schueman, thank you for being here and helping us understand this and tell the story tonight, sir. thank you for your service. >> thank, you ma'am. >> so much more ahead, stay with us. sta with us. ♪
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the americans who since the very beginning have made up a shocking portion of the deaths in this pandemic. that other piece of new news today is about people who live in american nursing homes, covid deaths among nursing home residents have accounted for a third of all the fatalities in this country from covid, it has alongside those numbers been a very unsettling trend for months now that despite the horrific toll that covid has taken in u.s. nursing homes, so many people who work in nursing homes, assisting and caring for the elderly they're not getting vaccinated at high enough rate given the vulnerability of the populations in those facilities, only about 60% of people who work with the elderly, and people who work in staffs, our 60% vaccinated at this point. and they are working with the population that has made up a third of the fatalities so far in the pandemic. well, that is likely going to change now. >> today i'm announcing a new
step. if you work in a nursing home, and serve people on medicare or medicaid, you'll also be required to get vaccinated. this announcement, i'm using the power of the federal government, as a payer of health care cost to ensure that we reduce the risks to our most vulnerable seniors. >> president biden announcing the nursing homes, that don't require the staff to be vaccinated, those nursing homes will lose their federal funding. that's one way to make it stick. this new rule could start as early as next month, this is like 15,000 facilities nationwide, 15,000 facilities that collectively employ more than 1.3 million people, this is a big deal could be a significant boost to the populated vaccinated portion in america.
so three developments today, first of the booster shot announcement, second is the nursing home staff vaccination requirements, but as for the third thing, this is something that we have been covering sort of intensely, nobody knew it i was talking about, it seems to have any resident as i became obsessed with it. but now this story is finally getting traction and starting to resonate across the country because it is becoming a new part of the country's response to this part of the covid crisis. here is the headline in alabama right now quote monoclonal antibodies, the answer to alabama's covid surge, doctors say. doctors in alabama urging covid patients to seek out treatment with monoclonal antibodies to build quick immunity to covid as soon as symptoms said, in the treatment of proof or anybody older than age 12, who test positive and isn't super sick yet. it's an infusion that takes
about 20 minutes, and then you have to be supervised for an hour or so afterwards, just to make sure you're going to be okay. in total disappointment takes about two hours, but did that can keep people with covid out of the hospital. it's free, there is good data suggesting cute rejections and hospitalizations of people who get this therapy. that's necessary right now. not just a good thing for people who have covid and are at risk of progressing, but it's a good thing for places with overrun hospitals. as one doctor in among government put to today this is the golden goose, okay? this is what we need. we have a short window to get these people treated. this is the only thing in covid i've seen that is not controversial. everybody understands, this is the answer. joining us now is doctor vin gupta, he is a pulmonologist and a global health policy expert. doctor gupta, it's very nice of you to join us, thank you so much for being here. >> there is a much, rachel
fantasy. >> we talked over the months about monoclonal antibodies, and their promise, essentially, as a way to keep people who have been diagnosed with covid -- a way to keep them from getting very. sick away to stop them from being hospitalized and dying. does it seem to you like we are entering a new phase? as a country where these treatments are going to be used at scale finally to try to change the course of the disease? >> wow, rachel, i hope. and in part, relative to last and we had this conversation a few months ago, the indications have changed. and broadened. so all of your viewers here, if you are immunocompromised, somebody is not vaccinated at all, when they come in contact -- you can now get treatment with a monoclonal and, good hhs.gov,
-- you don't actually need a confirmed diagnosis anymore. if you're not fully vaccinated, or year immunocompromised, even if you get two shots, you could potentially be eligible to go to that website. that's the big change here. and the reason why it's important for the reasons you highlighted. to get vaccinated, it will take time for that to take effect. so, folks are at risk of dying in realtime, this is part of the solution. >> doctor gupta, i feel like the part that there hasn't been more uptake for these drugs previously is no one because there wasn't a big question and make them available. that seems to be changing, there is a perception that there are very expensive, they are expensive, relatively speaking to develop, but the federal government is covering the cost they're free to patients. i think the other reason that there's been less uptake of these then you might hope is because, people who aren't sick enough to be hospitalized people who are only experiencing mild symptoms or no symptoms of covid, don't necessarily want to take a drug
especially a new drug. especially if you have to go to an infusion center and take it to our employment and have a needle put in your arm and it seems like a scary thing. our experience with these drugs and their use so far, is it clear that they are safe, well tolerated, that they don't have side effects of people should be scared of? >> i think you hit on a point rachel that we have been trying to essentialized broadly which is that there's no harm to the signal to monoclonal antibodies these are not harmful therapies and literally there are no serious side effects that accompany these because you potentially have these soreness and formulations but no major side effects and you also touched on something that i want to emphasize for our viewers. we have moved in the last three months away from getting an iv to get this therapy sent out subpoenas injection it's like insulin those who can jack, into a muscle, every day, now we moved toward subcutaneously formulations of these drugs.
so now we can rapidly deploy them, and we don't have to be adequate, waiting for multiple hours and administer this much more easy in that will be a great deal as. well >> doctor vin gupta policy expert institute for health of metrics, doctor gupta, always a pleasure to have you here whenever you can make. it thanks for making the time. >> thank you. >> all, right we have more ahead of tonight's episode. onight's episode or powders, try the cooling, soothing relief or preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. preparation h. get comfortable with it.
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i mean just because you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ >> on january 20th this year, as joe biden was preparing to be sworn in as president, the former guy, outgoing president, who is very busy that day signing pardons and commutations for a whole rogues gallery. 143 pardons in commutations on his last day in office alone. iraq in -- 2016 campaign. that it was facing fraud charges with the built a wall scheme that ended up releasing all of the saddle trump supporters that sent the money to privately build the wall. a pardon for elliott broidy, he
had pled guilty to being a foreign agents. you will recall that the chairman of the trump inaugural committee, tom barrack was also recently charged as a foreign agent. you might remember the russian operative charged with infiltrating the trump movement in the nra at the direction of the kremlin. on his last day in office, trump decided to pardon her boyfriend. okay. he pardoned former republican congressman convicted on corruption charges, several of them. he pardoned policies gamers and racketeers. anybody who had a connection to him, or frankly bought one, he just lock them off with pardons. conveniently for historians of the white house candles. white house also listed in the announcement of most of these pardons, who exactly had arranged for the pardon. who had lobbied for its. for example, in that description we learned that the maria boyfriend pardon that was kellyanne conway who secured that pardon for him. how, why? for the ponzi schemer guy.
that was all under shoots -- and also jeff van drew, whose constituents in new jersey were among that guys victims. but hey, -- one of the high-profile people pardoned in the last few minutes of trump's power, the white house did list for anybody having range that pardon. they thought that maybe attribution like that would not be necessary since anybody googling that guy's name would immediately find everything that they needed to know in the form of many many online pictures of him with jared kushner. jared kushner used to own the new york observer newspaper, this guy trump pardoned on his final day in office is kevin carson. he was the editor of the newspaper. in 2018, trump had tried to install the same guy at the national endowment for the humanities. an unfortunate for him that appointment came with an fbi background check. that routine fbi background check apparently turned up some troubling evidence that this guy maybe had a harassment
problem of some kind. in any case the, glitches that turned up in his background investigation ultimately led to there being federal felony charges filed against him. and can carson was facing those charges, he's not yet gone on trial when trump pardoned him. but now look, all of these pictures of him with kushner, they're back in the news today. because today, even though trump just pardon his guy few months ago. today kushner's friend, karsen, found himself in handcuffs in a manhattan courtroom. because today, new york state prosecutors brought state felony charges against him for allegedly cyber stalking and harassing his ex-wife. the behavior described indictment against him today new york's behavior that was alluded to in his federal charging documents, actually in a footnote. but now, that alleged conduct is being charged in state court, where trump's federal pardon was going to do this guy no good. he's facing the possibility of
four years in state prison if he's convicted. the new york prosecutor, district attorney in manhattan, who brought the charges against him today, is the same new york prosecutor who recently brought criminal charges against trump's business and trump's business cfo allen weisselberg. today, then you are a prosecutor, cy vance, said it is about his office's decision to bring state charges against can curse and despite the federal pardon that we got from trump. vince as, quote as, alleged at the complaint mr. kurson launched a campaign of cybercrime manipulation and abuse from his perch at the new york observer newspaper, and now the people of new york will hold him accountable. he said quote, we will not accept presidential pardons as get out of jail free cards for the well connected in new york. the point about presidential pardon is not being get out of jail free cards, like in general ... that might just be some good speech from new york prosecutor. but it may also be a warning
from somebody else in trump's orbit. because that same prosecutor, that same da who charged kurson today after he was pardoned by trump in january, that same prosecutor also right now has an open investigation into steve bannon. he was pardoned by trump on federal fraud charges the same day the trump pardoned gerald's friend as well. the guy who's just charged in the state court today. trump's pardons are a get out of jail free card when it comes to federal charges. but not state charges. these state criminal charges today i'm sure were a shock to the jared kushner part of trump's orbit. i imagine they were deeply deeply unsettling for steve bannon. what do you think? watch this space. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story.
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tonight, i'm sorry for falling apart at the end of the a block tonight. but it was unavoidable, i knew i could not steer away from, that i knew it was going to end that way. i'll see you again tomorrow night, where i will have it together. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening, lawrence. >> rachel, it was very compelling reporting. i am so glad you deliver that story to us. the weight of this frustration is on everyone. you have been covering this story from your own time in afghanistan, and before that for so many years. and
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