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to hear the fda decision to give the pfizer vaccine full approval. could it open the floodgates for more vaccine mandates? that's ale. the white house in damage control mode on afghanistan, too, as the taliban warns the administration there will be consequences if u.s. troops are not out by august 31st. the scramble to evacuate citizens, staff, and family continues. and a stand off among democrats on capitol hill as house moderates dig in with the state of the agenda and the party's future at statement. the white house is hoping it will be a game changing day in
stopping the fight against covid. and compel schools and businesses to require employees to get shots. we expect the president to deliver remarks on the vaccinations in this hour. it comes as we have seen a dramatic decline on how americans are perceiving his handling of the pandemic. that amount has slipped 16 points and that comes as he continues to face crisis that threaten america's standing in the world. in afghanistan the administration continues to deal with a complex and challenging security situation as it works to evacuate tens of thousands of citizens and forces over the last 20 years. the chaos of that situation was on display again today with a
deadly shooting at the kabul airport. according to the german military, one soldier was killed and three others were injured in the fight against afghan security forces and unknown attackers. after president biden announced yesterday that the u.s. may extend the august 31st deadline for completing it's crawl, sky news is now reporting that the taliban warns of consequences request the u.s. withdrawal is delayed. at the president faces scrutiny, he is also finding his domestic priorities in limbo. they are advancing that multi trillion dollar spending package. it all comes at the president's overall approval rating is taking a hit.
it is the first time in his presidency. to help us get started i'm joined now by kelly o'donnell at the white house and courtney kube. afghan, covid, the budget, the next couple days could be critical for what joe biden wants to get done. how are they approaching this crucible in the next few days? >> this is a time the president has been surrounded by the swarm of events that have not gone his way. and when something like the pfizer approval comes through after it has been long predicted today is that day, and along for the administration to harness that and convince those that have a medical reason like that threat hold of approval as a reason not to get the vaccine, and how it opens the doors for further requirements in the
workplace and in businesses. and in ways that people engage with activities they want to participate in. those kinds of requirements. so expect the president to tout this as an important step. as the same time we have seen how the delta variant rages presented additional problems. and the president's handling may not be so much about the decisions he made on various things related to covid, but on the environment that people are feeling. a return to mask areaing, concerns about breakthrough infections, and all of those things we're seeing. on the afghanistan piece we're seeing the security team meeting is now a standing appointment on his day every day this week. and the volatility of what is happening on the ground. >> and the president's approval rating getting below 30% for the
first time. i think it is still better than the pred ses sor achieved in four years. has it raised any red flags at the white house? >> there is certainly concern about the direction here. those numbers have a right traffic wrong track feel to them. especially when you talk about the things that have a specific reach to the president. it is not something he has direct control over. it is bigger and more complicated. things like getting his own legislation passed, there might be a much narrower margin there of his involvement along with democrats on capitol hill to get signature achievements that he would like to see realized. those things are perhaps more in their wheel house of what they may be able to control. but this is one of the times when being president shows how hard that job is. the worst problems of the world land on a president's desk.
>> and courtney, the pentagon had a banner day, but now the president has been saying he would potential i will be open to keeping kroops passed. now the taliban is signaling what is going on there. how are they approaching it now? >> there doesn't seem to be a lot. according to the defense here, they are continuing to plan for the reality that everyone has to be out by august 31st. one of the questions we have been asking here is is there an agreement here between the u.s. military and the taliban about the u.s. leading them. we know they have been talking to the taliban on the ground there, and that is military commander to taliban kmander for the last week or so. they have been allowing for safe
passage for americans and some afghans to get through some check points and that's part of the agreement. so as one of the factors, does it include giving them assurances. it seems they want this to be considered as an evolving and flows conversation. think about it, grks arrett. there is about 5800 troops there now. there was 600 and 1,000 there when the taliban first when the into kabul. it took several days to get those roughly 5,000 troops in. is it going to take defrl days to get them back out. and if they're the last ones to leave the airport does that mean that the u.s. will have to stop taking evacwees in to get there.
now we're talking about just a couple days from when this may be. this is something we'll have to keep watching. i don't get the sense that they think this dead looip will get extended. >> do we have a sense of how big the june verse of people is in afghanistan that we're still hopeful to get out? >> no, an candidly it is really frustrating and difficult to get ground truth to that. i think part of that is if you look at american civilians there, citizens there, some of them may be registered the school department may not have a strong idea of how many are there. they know how many are coming to them asking for help, but there may be many more in need of help. they also don't don't have a
good sense of who is outside of kabul. there is also the afghans and the numbers are all over the map. and how many have made this a true international crisis. i want to bring in ben rhodes who is the deputy advisor. i want to start by getting a reaction to something that jake sullivan told chuck yesterday about the threat that isis poses in afghanistan. >> i know the scenes in the airport are heartbreaking. i know there is complexity and turbulence on the ground in kabul. that is the reality of what we're up against.
most of the americans following the there has been an isis threat in afghanistan in south asia since the emergence of science. there has never been as powerful as the taliban or what al-qaeda was, but their opportunistic. every day they're there they save thousands of afghan lives that are at risk. however, every day that you're
there at that airport is a day when you could face a potential threat but from someone like isis that may want to insert themselves in the circumstance. how many lives can we save? >> they're kind of two fazes to this whole process, right? the white house knows they're taking their lumps the white house is hopeful that they will be find cased because americans don't want to be in afghanistan any more. the risk of that is the terror part of it. i wonder from your seat, how concerned are you that afghan could once again become a breeding ground for terrorism when this is over? >> you heard the administration say very forthrightly that there
are trst threats from a lot of countries. they don't have to have it all together on the ground. i think they feel comfortable that they have enough infrastructure in that region that if they see the e me jens of different threats they can take action against them. you have a humanitarian risk of afghans subject to reprisal and the more people they can get out now are likely to be targeted because they worked with us they can hopefully save lives, and i think they are urgently balancing those things right now in the white house. >> you tweeted this recently. how much do you see them being around the idea of afghan
refugees. we're talking about european countries does congress need to get involved? to extend my military, how do you see that political environment playing out. they are pulling thousands of people out. there is a lot of people flowing to borders. as you think about it, i think most estimates suggest that you're talking about 100,000 afghans or more they have children. we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. the united states will not take all of those people, but we need to take our responsibility for our role in the world in afghanistan. the more that the understand
leads in taking in afghans the more we can go around and help countries like canada so what you'll see is i think a lot of these san franciscoly kms talking about the need to not deter african al lies you already sense the trump party trying to slam that door. i hope that all of the concern that you felt in the last few weeks can be sustained. this will be a put year process and they need hopes, it's not safe for them to go back to afghan. >> right, when i'm back on the hill i will ask every republican lawmaker that said we had a moral only indication to these afgs if that includes welcoming them to this country. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, the major announcement that the pfizer vaccine is now fully approved
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it may move the perverbial needle. some companies are waiting to implement mandates for employees. today defense secretary lloyd austin announced earlier the month that service members would be required to get the vaccine wince it was approved. i'm joined now, and let's pick up there, the vaccine now has full fda approval, how do you see changing the aevgs about the vak seep. do you think it will persuade some holdouts? >> yeah, you talked about the age, and you said over16, but it
is 16 and up. being able to get 16-year-olds vaccinated would help us a lot. i think one of the things that is not appreciated about this mrna vaccines is 180 million people have been vaccinated and we have not had a single death associated with it. s a asprin is not that safe. combined with the fact that these are very safe vaccines and we're learning about vaccines, we could do so much to end the kind of horrible, horrible situation that we have seen in the country of people just getting vaccinated. >> based on the fact that you
corrected me on the 16-year-old part, but according to the poll 69% said they got it, 13% said they definitely wouldn't, that leaved about 15% that are somewhat open. how big of a dent does that approval have to -- is there potential for impact amid that 15%? >> i think it is very important. now people can realize that this vaccine has the full in-depth review. and it has had basically come out on the other end with the full approval of the fda showing it can save thousands and thousands of lives. i'm confidence that some people will have that willingness to go forward. we'll still have holdouts, i'm a very big supporter of vaccine
mandates, but when their body is infectious to others in the community that is a communication issue, not just about them. >> so does this fda approval give companies more solid grounds to enact those mandates? >> i'm not a lawyer, but i can tell you as a public health professional for 46 years i think it does, i think it is very compelling that it says yes, now use the power that you have there to try to bring a major dent into this really horrible situation. >> you're not a lawyer, i'm not a math guy, neither of us are nfl football players but today you will speak to the minnesota ikeles as i understand it to talk about vaccine hesitancy. they have notable players including kirk cousins that said that he won't be vaccinated. what do you tell that group to try to convince them to get the shot. >> i have already spoken to them today.
i have been a participant, i have been a participant in the nfl activities for more than a year and a half trying to do whatever we can to most safely conduct the every day activities of an nfl team. i have been extremely impressed with their activities, the science they brought to the issue, and today i just sheared a updated level of science. i want to say they have been excel particular ri. they have been doing everything they can to help players understand the importance and the safety of the vaccines. so i there was to help reiterate what the team has already been saying. >> so many us have tried to talk to people that have been hesitant in our own life what do
you find works to convince people? >> unfortunately the one thing that had the most impact is watching a loved one die from this virus. i mean most people are aware of the fact that one of the major conservative talk radio hosts in the country, phil valentine, in nashville, just died over the weekend. and his last wish to his family before he died was please get vaccinated, everybody. he spent months and months and months criticizing anyone's need to get the vaccine. so i can tell you right now here i am in minneapolis and we're not being hit as hard as a lot of the rest of the country and yet we don't have a pediatric intensive care bed today. covid has done this in a way that people can only understand even if you don't get covid,
hope you don't have a heart attack or a car accident. hope you don't fall off of a roof today. you would be in deep trouble trying to find the deep trouble that you need. >> >> let's turn now to alabama where covid cases are spiking. vaccine ratts there remain below 50% and hospitals have run out of icu beds. let me talk to the top alabama state health officer there. the icus there are in really bad shape, can you give us a sense of what is happening in your hospitals? >> we've been really under water for a few weeks now. the number of cases that we're seeing every day are in the thousands range. we have been close to 5,000 cases. the hospitals are not at the highest peak they were, but we
have far surpassed the highest number of cases. we have born the brung of this. they are receiving more critical care than we have icu beds officially in the hospital and that is a really tough situation to be in. >> what's your biggest need? do you need beds? equipment? staff? we hear from doctors and public health officials all of the time talking about how burned out their doctors and nurses are. >> yeah, staffing has been an issue all along and continues to be a big issue. hospitals are really good at being adaptive and dealing with hardships, and it is not soed bad during a flu season, but you can expand in your own four walls and you can put a gurney
in the hall way. but what you can't easily come up with is a nurse, a doctor, a respiratory therapist, staff members, pharmacy workers to take care of those folks. they have risked their lives, some of them lost their lives, and it is a big problem for us and also everywhere in the country. it's hard to just wave a wand and produce a lot of icu staff, nurses, or anyone to work in a hospital right now. >> let's talk about that fda full approve, will that help convince people that now is the time? >> i hope so. it comes in a lot of flavors,@not just one group. we take most about people just
making partisan political decisions, but there are also people with other very good reasons that they just have not gotten the shot yet. we have people with transportation challenging, people that don't have great access to care. maybe they're waiting for one more thing to help push them to make that decision. we, again, we try to communicate to people and we have a vaccine that has been given hundreds of millions of doses worldwide in is the most safety data ever accumulated on any product before it was approved by the fda. we have seen a uptick in vaccinations in the past two or three weeks, and that's encouraging, but we have a long way to go here in alabama. >> i want to ask you the same question as i asked dr. osterholm.
thinking of all of our viewers out there trying to convince a family member, relative, or friend to do so now. what do you find is most effective to help people do that? >> just like we were saying there is a lot of reasons that people are hesitant, and we push all of the buttons that we can, in a way. e encourage feel have conversations with their health care providers. if your doctor knows you, your family, and your kids, that is the voice most trusted probably. other people don't have a lot of information. we have seen if the last couple years how much distrust is there. there is a lot of people grouped into partisan examples. that is the best way to get
people to know that you care about them, you're trying to help them make the best decision, and you have to trust people to make that decision and sometimes they do the right thing and sometimes they don't. >> dr. scott harris, thank you very much. president biden is scheduled to bring remarks to us soon. as we wait we'll go to capitol hill where a major stand off is now under way. r way. ♪♪ ♪♪
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the joy of movement welcome back, the house is back, but it is not just about the bottom line or the make up, it's about the timing, nine house democrats say they won't vote yes unless they get a vote on the infrastructure package, first. a plan that goes in the face of speaker pelosi's approach. you don't hold up a major priority as some form of leverage. the infrastructure bill, they say, is not a political football, and they got substantial back up this morning. the house democratic caucus will be back tonight, the moderates
say they're ultimate threat is serious, but the reconciliation plan goes down and it would take the bulk of the domestic agenda with it. sahil kapur is on capitol hill. part of what the moderates are saying here is that they're doing what joe biden wants, but you suggest that is not the case at all. >> that is right there is a straight shadow boxes match going on. ing that we're on president biden's side and we're asking for swift passage of this bill. because they want to vote on it before going to the budget bill. he has not take an position on the sequencing, and andrew baits saying he sports the approach to
the rule. they are looking forward to signing both pieces of the legislation. the moderates are positioning themselves on the side of president biden and the president is saying that is not really the case. they are not weighing in on the sequencing of this. at the end of the day the white house is not about to second guess speaker pelosi. and i keep waiting for the president to weigh in, it feels like speaker pelosi has a limited tool kit here. one of the tools is a still popular president of the united states that all of the moderates need to be popular and to have gotten things done for their own reelections. do you have any sense of whether or not that has been an ask. whether or not president biden could be the one to lean on those moderates here? >> i think that is implied, and
i think it is well understood that if president biden is weakened, they're weakened. many of the democrats have that have the most to use, and they are keeping them in the house majority for awhile. you can't do that in the agenda goes down and if his numbers take a tumble all of the democrats have a tougher time getting elected ultimately pelosi is about as good of a vote counter as she has seen in a long time but i don't think she has the votes just yet. she is planning to put it out on the floor tomorrow. she is putting out letter after letter. she was sounding very confident
of success. something has to give and something is really fiscal collating. >> i want to play a little bit of this add from the justice democrats targeting these moderates. listen to this. >> these conservative democrats are sabotaging biden's agenda. tell representative gottheimer to stop on instructing president biden and start working for the american people. quickly, could that back fear? the moderates probably like being able to go home and say i'm standing up to the most progressive elements of the party, are they not. look, justice democrats have issued threats to incumbent lawmakers and they have taken
down some high profile law makes. both got primaried, backed by justice democrats, and i think they are trying to deliver a warning shot to democrats that you might be getting covered from centrist groups, but you will be getting push back. they have been successful in dark blue districts. it's a whole new dynamic to get the reconciliation package through. >> sahil, a lot to watch there. now a quick update on another political story, this one in new york. governor cuomo gave his first farewell address to workers. he called on his form ere
employees, he is stepping down following several sexual harassment allegations and an impeachment inquiry. tropical storm henri was dumping massive amounts of rain os of city this weekend as well. and we'll go to tennessee where 22 people are dead and dozens are still missing. l missing. i became a sofi member because i needed to consolidate my credit card debt. i needed just one simple way to pay it all off. it was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the interest rate and how much i would be saving. there was only one that stood out and one that actually made sense and that was sofi personal loans. it felt so freeing. i felt like i was finally out of this neverending trap of interest and payments and debt.
under way in rhode island that saw massive wind gusts. in new york henri dropped a record breaking rainfall giving the city it's wettest day in 70 years. it's rainiest hour in 150 years of history. in tennessee dozens are dead and missing after flash floods hit this weekend. it swept away cars and power lines. residents had no cell service to contact emergency services or loved ones. search and rescue operations are ongoing. it is good to be with you and surprising numbers this morning out of humphreys county this hour. an hour and a half west of nashville where they confirmed that 40 people are missing. surprising because cell service and power has been restored and yet the number was starting to
go down has now gone back up. it is extremely disconcerting within the context of what we're seeing here. there has been homes picked up off of their found daises. that house used to be here is now dangling over the creek bed. you see hvac units in the yard, and cars crisscrossing at a 45 degree angle into a home. if you keep going down the street you will find another house that is wedged into a gas station in 2010 they saw historic floods, once in 100 years, now 11 years later and it is even worse. >> what have the last three days been like for you? >> surreal, horrific. the last flood in 2010 was supposed to be the 100 year
flood and it wasn't anything compared to this. nothing. nothing. >> one other way to look at this, the normally docile creek was so swollen that it raged across the street to the porch of the people that live there. i spoke with a woman who is 69 years old. she said she saw all of this massive objects floating down the street and she became paralyzed with fear. now from waferly, sam brock, nbc news. up next, what is next for texas democrats and voters as they have reached a quorum allowing them to take up the new restrictive voting legislation. n
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floor, but enough democrats have returned to proceed. and many of the democrats are avoiding the capitol and calling on the colleagues to deny this quorum. many of the house senators would restrict mail-in voting and eliminate some options like mail-in voting in harris county and add criminal penalties for voting law violations as well as allow bipartisan poll watchers. and thank you for joining us, and my apologies if we have to break early if the president interrupts us. so, if the house convenes later today, what is going to happen? >> well, first, garrett, when the republicans said they made quorum last week, they used a roll call that is 12 days old, so i don't believe they have a legitimate quorum, and they may
have one today, but i will not be part of it today. and many of them going back today will have second thoughts of questioning the legitimacy of the quorum last week. but if there is a quorum, we are going down the wrong road here, and we are seeing the republicans acting with the bills in committee and no negotiations and no discussion and no public testimony, and treating the committee process as if it is the floor which means bills can be heard in 40 minutes and this is not bipartisan or pragmatic. >> and you mentioned the democrats going back if they had cold feet if they did go back, and three of them put out a statement saying that we are proud of the heroic work and commitment we and our fellow democratic caucus members have shown in breaking quorum in may and again over this summer.
it is time to move past these partisan legislative calls and to come together to help our state mitigate the efficacy. what do you say? >> there are more to protect the people against covid than what we can do on the house floor. the legislation of the house floor is to un-do what the appellant court did in san antonio to say that the local governments can run the cities and the school districts require masks in schools, and the attempt is to un-do it and not to help. two, the people have to do what they believe they have to do, but we are working on the consensus and transparency and the announcement for them to go back was not known for the larger caucus, but a number of us committed to fight, and we want reforms at the national level and we will hold out unless and until we can get the federal voting rights on the president's desk. >> what does that commitment look like?
how long can you stay away from providing a quorum? a year? until the next election? i have to tell you that i cover the congress, and i don't think that the cavalry is coming to help you guys in terms of a federal voting law any time soon. >> i appreciate the perspective, and i believe in hope, and moral consciousness and i believe it is elevated to the top of the talking points at a national level, because people are fed up. when you are looking at the redistricting, it can flip the balance of the u.s. house, and if that is not important to people in washington, d.c., i don't know what is. and to have the proposal in s-1 would make redistricting more fairer when it is coming to redrawing congressional districts. >> i have 30 seconds left, but we are curious in georgia another big fight over a big restrictive law, and so a huge
number of people registering to vote, so if you are not successful in the federal hand, and do you feel that you have engaged the voters of texas, because the participation numbers have been dismal? >> in a matter of seconds, this proposal would make it harder for people to vote by mail and early vote, and despite that, the texans are voting and the republicans can see this leadership and the majority is slipping through their fingers, and if they cannot change the minds of voters through the persuasion, they will change the rules to hang on to the power, and that is what we are seeing in the state. >> trey martinez fischer and always good to have a fellow texan on, and thank you for being on in this hour, and chuck will be back tomorrow for more "meet the press daily." and more coverage with geoff bennett right after this break.
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concluded, it is now, it is a thorough independent scientific review that after a strict process, the fda has reaffirmed the findings that the pfizer covid vaccine is safe and effective and the fda has given the full and final approval. so let me say this loudly and clearly. if you have and if you are one of the millions of americans who said that they will not get the shot until it has full and final approval of the fda, it has now happened. the moment that you have been waiting for is here. it is time for you to go get your vaccination, and get it today. today. it an important moment in the fight against the pandemic. you know, i want to thank the acting commissioner janet woodcock and the entire team at fda for the work. janet woodcock is a true scientist and serving under the
democratic presidents and republican presidents. she has ensured that the team follow the science above all, and looked at the mountains of clinical trial data and the safety and the efficiency day and concluded without question that the vaccine was safe and effective for emergency use in december. that same thing that we have those shots in the arms at the time, and 350 million in the united states, and billions across the world. they kept poring over this data and the fda is the gold standard and now, as i said, it has been granted. those who have been waiting for the full approval should go get your shot now. the vaccination is free. it is easy, and it is safe and it is effective and it is convenient. for 90% of americans, there is a vaccination site less than five miles from your home. and you can get the shot without an appointment, so please, get your shot today.
there is no time to waste. the delta variant is dangerous and spreading and causing a pandemic among the unvaccinated. and while we are starting to see initial signs that cases may be declining in a few places, nationwide cases are still rising, especially among the unvaccinated. across the country, virtually all of the covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths continue to be among the unvaccinated. that is worse in states where the vaccination rates are overall low, but even in the states where the people are vaccinated, the unvaccinated are still at risk. let me be clear. there are cases where the vaccinated people do get covid-19, but they are far less common than unvaccinated people getting covid-19, and most importantly, their conditions are far less severe. the overwhelming majority of people in the hospital of
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