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good morning, and welcome to a special edition of "morning joe." we're on tape for the next couple of hours allowing for our hardworking staff not to have to labor on this labor day. this morning we're looking back at the more memorable conversations we've had on the show over the past few months. we're going to start with one of this year's most highly anticipated books about the final days of the trump administration. >> to the long-awaited book to the two out standing pulitzer prize journalists, "i alone can fix it" is out today. and it details the chaos that started with the coronavirus and
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ended with the insurrection of the capitol on january 6th. and the co-authors join us now, investigative reporter from "the washington post," carol lenning, and senior washington correspondent for "the washington post" and political analyst for msnbc and nbc news, phillip rucker joins us. and you both actually travelled, at donald trump's invitation, to mar-a-lago to speak with the former president. amid the many questions you asked concerned the events at the capitol on january 6th and you write in part this, i would venture to say i think it was the largest crowd i had ever spoken to before, trump said. it was a loving crowd, too, by the way. there was a lot of love. in all fairness, the capitol police were ushering people in, trump said. the capitol police were very friendly. they were hugging and kissing. you don't see that. there's plenty of tape on that.
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okay. i don't know where to begin but why don't we back up and carol, if you could fill us in on why you think he invited you to mar-a-lago and allowed you guys to sit down and talk to him about all of this? >> mika, i think that phil and i both recognize, as you do, because of how long you've been chronicaling this presidency that donald trump loves an audience. when we were coming to see him, he had been stripped of some of his opportunities and audiences. no longer was he on the south lawn talking to reporters every morning, he was off twitter. and he wanted to get across his version of reality to us and, as he said, get the word out. many of the things he said to us do not square with reality and do not square with the evidence that we have and facts that we've done in our reporting. but donald trump wants that alternate reality out there. and he wants to explain to the
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public that he really didn't lose, that he won arizona and pennsylvania and michigan. he wants people to believe that the january 6th riot was a peaceful, loving event in which his supporters were just basically great, loving people. we all know what we saw, which was rioters were slamming flag polls and batons and bear spray at police officers and some of them died that day or the next day. >> and phil, when he said things like that, did you all push him? did you say, with all due respect, that is exactly not what happened. people died and this was an insurrection among many other things. i mean, what was the conversation like or was he allowed to just talk? >> mika, we pushed him repeatedly in a number of different areas including his allegations of voter fraud. this is two months after he left office and he was still filled
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with grievance about the fraud that he believes existed or at least he tries to persuade his supporters that existed when there's no evidence whatsoever. we also asked why, as president, he thought it was okay to tell the american people things that were not true, to lie again and again, and he said to us, there's a beautiful word and it's called disinformation. >> carol, it's willie, congratulations on the book, which is one scoop after another, i'm reading your piece in "vanity fair" that chronicles your interview on march 31st, when you went down to mar-a-lago and sat down with president trump. i'll begin at the end where he says i actually enjoyed this. for some sick reason i enjoyed it. talking about your interview. he goes through everybody and criticizes them. down to george washington, abraham lincoln, ronald reagan, john mccain, we have heard the
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insults before. what was your sense of why he wanted to sit with you as long as he did and what he wanted to get in the record despite his protest you guys are unfair and your previous book was fake news, et cetera. >> i'm really glad you asked that question. that final moment is one of our favorite as well. the former president is really actually being pretty aware of himself at that moment by saying i am addicted to your questions and your attention. it is a sickness, in some respects. however, i would argue that part of the reason he sat with us for so long is because we were eager to hear his explanations. we were eager to hear his narrative of this incredible consequential and ultimately catastrophic year. we wanted him to have a chance to explain that. and mostly, what he talked about is how often people around him failed him. i mean, he believes bill barr
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was addicted to the media and too weak to resist the criticism that he was facing and that's why bill barr failed him. he argued that mitch mcconnell was stupid and lacked personality. and that this was a huge sort of yolk around his neck to have a republican leader who was so fair to middling, i guess i would say. the next thing i argued is that pence, his vice president, was weak and could have done more to protect the constitution if he had followed donald trump's words. now, of course, a lot of people will disagree with the president about this. but i think it's so interesting, his narrative is basically that he alone was the brilliant genius and everyone else was an enemy or weak, palry, stand in. >> president trump told you,
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quote, had mike pence had the courage to send it back to the legislatures, you would have had a different outcome in my opinion. i think the vice president of the united states must protect the constitution of the united states. i don't believe he's supposed to be a statue who gets votes from the states and hands them over. if you see fraud then you have an obligation to do one of a number of things, end quote from former president trump. i think many would say mike pence did defend the constitution that day. and he also criticized brett kavanaugh saying he didn't do enough, goes after chris christie, said nikki haley put out nasty statements. the island is down to rudy giuliani, kevin mccarthy and immediate family members. you have a passage in the "vanity fair" piece about president trump committing to the lies with a straight face. and i encourage everybody to read this piece because he goes off on every conspiracy theory. if you had someone in your family speaking the way he
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speaks to you, you'd call an emergency meeting and say there's something wrong with dad. what is your sense of whether he believes the garbage he's spewing or needs it to be out there to tell himself or his supporters that he did win? >> willie, it's hard for us as journalists to get inside the head of donald trump, but he repeats the lies again and again so often they might be true in his mind. when you're down there talking to him, there's a distorted reality that he's presenting not only to us but to the dozens of guests that come to mar-a-lago every night for dinner and give him a standing ovation out on the patio at sunset. it's a strange theme down there. when you leave mar-a-lago you realize what's happening in the world is completely the t different reality from what the 45th president is trying to tell his supporters. so many americans still continue to believe what donald trump is telling them.
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in our book we interviewed more than 140 senior officials and the government advisers to the former president, witnesses to these events and again and again they told us how concerned and alarmed they were by what the president was doing and saying in office. especially in those heroing final weeks after the election and before joe biden's final inauguration. >> guys, i'm listening in my mind and imagining that scene of him getting the standing o at mar-a-lago which he gets for himself whenever he wants it. and thinking of kevin mccarthy going to visit him and these leaders in washington who follow him, who fear him. and i've made this point before, earlier this week, this doesn't feel like a cult, this appears to be a cult. how would you describe the relationship between trump and his followers, especially given the sort of color that you're telling us about from in your
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incredible book? >> you know, mika, i'm glad you fix on that issue of the parade of people we watched to come in and sort of kiss the ring of donald trump, months after he lost the election. so many republican congressman are coming to mar-a-lago to basically get his -- his -- his endorsement, his stamp of approval, because they know what we all are watching in front of our eyes, that so many americans still cheer for donald trump. as we like to say, if the primary were held today, he would probably be the republican nominee for president. he is the standard bearer right now and the most prominent republican. voters who supported him believe the wall-to-wall basic coverage of his comments and believe that covid is not as bad as people say because he said so. believe masks don't work because
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he rejected them. believed that the election was stolen because he repeatedly said so and continues to do so. >> guys, congrats on the book, cannot wait to read it. one of the pieces that's gotten a lot of attention so far was what chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley suggesting that what was happening after the election, before the inauguration, akin to nazi germany. what steps were he and others in the government doing to prevent what donald trump wanted to do? >> jonathan, it's such an important moment because it really begins june 1st. from our reporting we learned that general milley decides, after june 1st in that brutal clearing of lafayette square for a photo op for the president to look tough he's never going to let that happen again, he's never going to be played as that
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happens. the military will not be deployed on his watch for a political gain. but he becomes more and more concerned that, actually, there's a plot afoot. there's a coupe in the works. he is warned and gets calls in the middle of the night as phil and i learned from friends, military aides from h.r. mcmaster, watch it something is going on. here are people you need to be careful about. and he begins meeting with the joint chiefs, army, navy, air force to talk about what will they do to block donald trump if he takes a step to use the military to keep and maintain his grasp on power. they decide, basically, as phil and i learn on a reverse saturday night massacre, if anyone is familiar with that moment from nixon's presidency. they talk about how they will resign one by one basically to stop the president in his tracks
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if he does something insane. >> extraordinary. phil, cover of your book obviously has the picture of donald trump pulling off his mask upon his return from walter reed medical center after he was diagnosed with covid. when you talk to him in your interviews and as you report in the book, do you have any sense of any second guessing of how he handled theb.? anything epts to do differently in the moments of his presidency? >> his management of covid, failure, we know that. yet when we asked him what he would do differently he had no regrets. nothing to apologize for or turn around. but one regret in a different area, he wished in the black lives matter protests that started after the killing of george floyd, he had been resolute, rejected the advise of
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his military advisers and sent active duty troops to cities. he thought he should have looked stronger than he did and he regrets not having sent troops into the streets. >> this is gene robinson, congratulations on the book, what an amazing achievement, amazing story. >> thank you, gene. >> there are words for people who speak the way donald trump spoke to you and words like demented and delusional. so, in all the interviews you did with people who work for him, do they think he's like off his gourd or do they think this is all intentional? what's the mixture of those two things that the people who were closest to him perceive? >> gene, you know this is an interesting point because we went back and forth with so many sources. every time we sat down with
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them, we were stunned to learn that some of them still had not figured it out. they are not sure whether he believes the lie, the one he commits to so physically, the one that he sounds like when he's selling the in this case oil that it actually is a miracle cure. some are not sure whether he believes what he is saying. i'll tell you this, one of the most shocking takeaways for both phil and for me is how many ardent supporters, who looked like they were silently standing by his side, no objection, how panicked they were behind the scenes. you know, what we learned in our reporting, bill barr very unsettled and disturbed by the president's insistence on sicking troops on americans who had a right to protest. he was worried about another waco because of what trump was pushing. basically inside there were a group of people fearing for themselves, fearing for the country.
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up next, more from carol and phillip's bombshell reporting on the final months of the trump presidency. donald trump keeps teasing a possible 2024 presidential run but would he keep mike pence on his ticket? we'll hear what he says about that in the tapes of his sit down with the two seasoned reporters when we come back right barack. right back. right back one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need.
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welcome back, now more on one of this year's most talked about books on the administration of donald trump. former fbi director james comey said of his conversations with trump, lordy, i hope there are tapes. well, "the washington post's" phillip rucker and carol lenning had tapes. >> had mike pence had the courage to send it back to the legislatures you would have had a different outcome in my opinion. >> is that what you told him the to do? the vice president? >> i didn't tell him to do anything. >> what did you want him to do?
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>> i thought that the election was rigged. i think that when you have more voters than -- when you have more votes than you have voters, i think that the vice president of the united states must protect the constitution of the united states, right. and it says very, very clearly, protect the constitution of the united states. i don't believe he's just supposed to be a statue who gets these votes from the states and immediately hands them over and that's -- if you see fraud, then i don't -- i believe you have an obligation to do one of a number of things. thomas jefferson took the votes, okay, just so you know. so i said, mike. you can be thomas jefferson or you can be mike pence. >> all right. that's brand new audio from our next guests' interview with former president trump at mar-a-lago. joining us now is the co-author of the book "i alone can fix it,
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donald j. trump's final catastrophic year," phillip rucker, senior washington correspondent for "the washington post" and political analyst for msnbc and nbc news. i want to first ask you what you were thinking when he was talking about mike pence and thomas jefferson? i want to know what was going through your head. >> first of all, mika, i was thinking this is not constitutional what president trump wanted pence to do, but it was also a way to talk about a vice president who we all watched for four years as the loyal steadfast sick koe fan tick side kick. one of the reasons that trump picked pence was because he was a statue, he would stand over trump's shoulder, smiling looking adoreingly of everything that trump did.
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and yet january 6th it seemed to be the breaking point and it's ironic what trump expected him to be a statue when he couldn't be. >> and the reward for loyalty was a mob chanting hang mike pence. and carol asked the former president point blank what he wanted to happen when he encouraged the crowds to march, and in his answer, trump suggested that capitol police were responsible that day by allowing crowds into the building. let's listen to the tape. >> there was a lot love, i heard that from many people. many people told me that was a loving crowd. and, you know, it was -- it was too bad -- it was too bad that it got -- you know, they didn't -- >> there were just some -- >> mr. president, i apologize. what we're trying to understand is not blame, not castigate -- >> i understand.
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>> -- we want to understand what did you want when you said go up there? what would you have dreamed for them to do? >> that you will show not to go in -- although they were ushered in by the police. in all fairness, the capitol police were ushering people in. the capitol police were very friendly. they were hugging and kissing. you don't see that but there's paren you the of tape on that too because the capitol police, that's the way it is. personally what i wanted is what they wanted. >> disgraceful, phil and insulting to the legacy of of the officers we've seen in video after video trying to hold the line, being assaulted by trump supporters sometimes with american flags and in one case being beaten to within an inch of his life. it's essential to arguments we've heard, saying the media has blown in out of proportion,
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it wasn't as bad as it appears as we've seen with our own eyes. >> that comment from the former president is a complete and wholesale distortion of the truth. we watched it unfold. there was not love in that crowd. there was hate, there was violence. there was a desire to find and then to hang the vice president, mike pence. that was an ugly day in washington and for this country and it was just chilling for me and carol to hear trump, several months later, describe it in that way as a loving crowd. and to say what he wanted as the president, he swore an oath to protect the country, to hear him say what he wanted was what they wanted. what they wanted was to sack the capitol, overturn democracy and hang the vice president. >> yes. putting justices on the supreme court was a point of pride for donald trump during his administration. but his views about the high court have clearly changed
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because of the election. take a look. >> i needed better judges. the supreme court was afraid to take it. don't forget, if you take all of the -- everything out, take all of the dead people that voted and there were thousands of them, by the way, we have lists of obituobituaries. if you take all of that, just look at one thing, the legislatures of the states did not approve all of the things that were done for those elections. and under the constitution of the united states, they have to do that. and the supreme court, they didn't find fact. don't forget, they didn't say well, we disagree. they said, we're not going to hear the case. i'm very disappointed in the supreme court. >> all right. phillip rucker, give us the context of these comments, many of which are not true. and also, i just, again, you're sitting there, you're looking at
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donald trump saying these things, speaking in this way. what are you thinking? i'm looking at someone who is dot, dot, dot. finish the sentence for me. >> someone who's living in his own head, has no grasp on reality, won't accept what actually happened, and, you know, there may be something worse than that. i don't know. i'm not a psychologist, i can't diagnose him, but clearly he was not thinking clearly and not thinking in rational truth. look, the comment about the list of obituaries, that's not true. there were department of justice fbi people who looked into the claims of election fraud and did not find evidence to be substantial in any way in shaping the outcome. what he's talking about is he wanted on january 6th for pence
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and the congress to send the counts back to a number of key states, pennsylvania and arizona among them. and his grand plan was the republican state legislatures would be able to somehow through those shenanigans in those state capitols back to washington with a different set of electors who could vote in trump rather than biden despite the totals in those states. it's a preposterous plan, it's not what he imagined, it's what he wanted pence to do and it did not happen because january 20th, joe biden was sworn in. >> tell us what you found in reporting your book about how trump intended to use the levers of government to try to overturn the results of the election and then secondly, while there with him in this interview, did he give any sense, tip his hand as to what his future plans might
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be? do you think we'll see him run for president in 2024? >> that second question first, he certainly indicated he wanted to run for president in 2024, he's serious about it, looking and thinking about it, that's three years away, a long time in politics, he's already 75 years old, who knows when he turns 76, 77, if he'll feel up for the challenge. it's exhausting to run for president. and i asked him if he would pick pence again as his running mate in 2024 he would not commit to that. he made it clear that he would leave it open for a different running mate. i said, pence wants to run for president as well, what if you run against each other. he said it's a free country. trump wanted to do everything he could to overturn the election
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results including pressuring the attorney general by try to investigate fraud and what he wanted to do was find evidence, come up with something that they can claim as evidence for this widespread voter fraud that trump imagined existed. the evidence didn't exist but trump put that pressure on the justice department and other departments. to the point that mark milley feared he could use the military in a coupe to hold onto power. it was a danger and they were trying to guard against any sort of rash or irrational action the president may have taken in those days. >> i question if he understands the deadly consequences of the way he wields his leadership. people went to the capitol to commit acts of violence against our leaders and democratic process in his name. people are refusing vaccines in the name of trump, conspiracy
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theories. and this is a man who just is driven by hatred. here's part of what trump said about the late senator john mccain. >> john mccain was a bad guy. he was a bully and nasty guy, bad guy. a lot of people disliked him. you know, last in his class at annapolis, all that stuff. but he was a bad guy. i say it to you, i don't care. does it affect me? i won arizona, okay. by a lot, you know. didn't turn out that way in terms of the vote, but i won arizona, everyone knows it. i won it the first time, the second time. i didn't get along with john mccain. >> mike barnicle, take it away. what do you make of this? >> so phil, let me ask you, you and carol are there, sitting before a clearly irrational human being, a former president of the united states. he, in that statement and in many other statements, not only just the statement about john
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mccain, but many other statements that he made to you, is clearly clinging to an imagined and sometimes real past that the country has lived through. tell us a little about his physical reaction. how did he look? he sounds exhausted in many of the answers that he gives to you on the tape. what was his reaction physically to some of the tougher questions that you asked? >> that's a great question. first of all, just to be clear, i know everyone watching at home knows that joe biden won arizona, but it needs to be said. what trump just said is not true. he did not win arizona in 2020. but to his physical comportment, you know, it was interesting. he wore the full suit like he normally does. a faceful of makeup like he does, if he was on television, except we were two people interviewing him with a digital recorder, no cameras anywhere. he actually seemed relatively
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high energy in the conversation. we were scheduled to meet with him for an hour to interview him for the book and he talked to us 2 hours and 35 minutes and his press secretary would interrupt to say it's been an hour, it's been an hour and a half to give him an end to the conversation but he didn't because he wanted to get this alternate reality out, keep telling the lies if as if he told it to us so many times carol and i would be convinced but we're not those kind of reporters we came to him after doing our research with 140 people who told us what it was really like behind the scenes there. this was checking a box at the end of our book reporting process to hear his side of the story, what he had to say. and it was enlightening because of what he had to say there. another book out this summer claimed that donald trump while he was serving as president
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now to our conversation with the author of another highly anticipated book on the trump administration. a deeply reported account of the 2020 presidential campaign that not only details donald trump's election loss but also whose defeat culminated in a violent insurrection. >> unfortunately this was an election where the person that counts the votes was far more important than the candidate, no matter how many votes that candidate got and we got record numbers of votes. it's a disgrace to our nation and we are truly being scorned and disrespected all over the world. never forget that the radical left is not the majority in this country, we are the majority and it's not even close. >> and i just for those who
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would be stupid enough to believe any of that, don't forget that rudy giuliani said himself in federal court there was no widespread voter fraud. william barr, the president's attorney general called it all b.s. the trump appointed supreme court justices said there was no widespread voter fraud. federal judges appointed by donald trump in pennsylvania and across america said, there was no widespread voter fraud. let's just face it within you really, really have to be dumb or purposefully ignorant to believe anything that you just saw. that that president, that former president just said. >> former president trump. at the conservative political action conference in dallas yesterday continuing to spread the big lie that voter fraud cost him the election.
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and now we're getting an inside look at just how chaotic the white house was before, during and after an election that trump still refuses to admit that he lost. joining us now senior white house reporter for "the wall street journal," michael c. bender author of the book "frankly, we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost". >> michael, thank you for being with us. how far was donald trump willing to push things behind the scenes to try to overturn the will of about 80 million plus voters? >> he was willing to go as far as he needed to and do and say whatever he needed to keep himself in the white house and his hold on power. i think that's what this book really lays out here. we all know how chaotic this administration was and how chaotic this president was.
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what i was struck in the reporting of the book and i tried to lay out here, is how dangerous the people closest to trump thought he was for the country. >> yeah, there are a couple of things that have made news. in the book you recount a blowup between then president trump and his vice president. quote the most heated discussion pence ever had with trump in may 2018 when news broke that pence's super pac was hiring lewandowsky. when they climbed into the presidential limousine on their way to the national peace officers' memorial service, trump flung the article at his vice president. trump thought it made them look like his team was aban donning him in the middle of the russia probe. so disloyal trump said. pence had enough and said he did it in a favor to jared.
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as he prepared to hire brad for the re-election bid. pence had walked through his plans at the time over lunch with trump. pence picked up the article and threw it back at trump. he leaned forward toward the president, pointed a finger a few inches from his chest we walked through every detail, we did this as a favor to you and this is how you respond? you need to get your facts straight. we'll note the former president denied this story and he said no such fight ever happened. so, talk about how you bring up this story, but you suggest this is the only time pence ever really stood up to donald trump and was ill-prepared for the chaos that led up to january 6th. >> i use this as an example of
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what people around pence were urging him to do. pence needed to be very clear, the people around him needed to be very clear about what needed to happen on january 6th. pence's people believe he was very clear in those meetings. trump told me that pence never told him no. and, you know, that -- you mentioned trump denied this story. he's singling out this book because -- because he knows how many people i've spoken to and people who don't normally speak to journalists. this story about mike pence, this is the most loyal lieutenant in the trump administration and an anecdote that happened several years ago that has not come out until now. i will say there's more where that came from inside the book. >> michael c. bender, great to see you, my friend. congrats on the book, i've ordered my copy already. one of the stories out there, i was hoping to talk about to you more about it, one of the defining days of the administration was june 1st here at lafayette square when he
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cleared the protesters after the george floyd killing. we saw some eruptions of violence across the country and you report that he told general milley that he wanted to use the military to crack down on them saying they should shoot the -- the soldiers should shoot the protesters. tell us about that moment and what it means bigger picture of how trump was trying to use the leverage of government and the united states military to keep his hold on power. >> this is one of several examples in the book of people talking to me because they wanted to explain how dangerous they thought trump was behind the scenes. and just for, you know, they -- the -- his advisers wanted to put national guards on the troops to take care of protests. these are folks who are trained to handle protests. the people that trump wanted to put on the streets are uniformed military, the difference is, those people are trained to kill and take land. it would have been a very
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dangerous situation. and it's one of the most striking scenes to me is general milley, the leader of the country's military, the top general in the country, in the oval office with dozens of aides around him, pointing to the portrait of abraham lincoln hanging over trump's shoulder and said that guy had an insurrection, what we have is a protest. >> another part of the book that's made news has been when the president was talking to his then chief of staff general kelly on the way to normandy, talking about the good things that hitler had done. give us context to that headline. >> that is a portion of the book that talks about some of the george floyd protests. and what was striking was that the people inside the administration and around trump, they didn't think he was a racist. in the textbook definition. they thought what was missing
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>> great to be back on the showt and joe, hello. we're overfed and under powered. what that means is we unfortunately now most americans eat food for up to 16 hours a day. often nearly aimlessly. our foods have been desired to be ultra processed. and thesese foods, rather than when we ate whole foods whole, we eat foods that have been broken down into small sugars, amino acids, and it it is like rush hour traffic. our mie body is unable to
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process this. we're over fed but under powered. >> how doer we turn it around? >> easy tricks. number one, the shorter period of time that we eat our meals during the waking hours from the start of break fast, breakfast. to dinner, the more we can compress it to eight hours, six hours would be best, the more energyes we produce by reducing the time of rush hour. now, that is easier said than done. in the last 21 years in my clinics i have been able to teach thousands of people to slowly, one hour at a time over a six week period, which is in the book "the energy paradox" break their breakfast starting time bykf one hour.
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say today is monday or tuesday. we would normally eat breakfast at 7:00. the next day we'll eat at 8:00, the following day, 9:00. we do that for six weeks. each day moving one day at a time. on the weekend a we take the weekend off. what kind of great program is that. the other thing we try to do is everybody knows one way or another that a monodiet, eating one kind of food like whether or not it is a carbohydrate diet, a high protein diet, a keto diet. they all work, but they are unsustainable. the first meal of the day, the break fast, i ask you to have one simple form of energy, a
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bowl of cereal with low cal almond milk on it or a egg white omelet with canadian bacon. what kind of crazy diet is that? and lastly how about an avocado in half, put egg yolks in the center and broil it. so the important thing is to give your mitocondria one singld thing to wake up with and they're far more efficient. and the second thing is the more we reduce our eating window the healthier you get, the more energy you get, and the longer you liveth and live well. >> finally -- >> you're saying on that part, on the fasting part, your goal
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is to compress eating into six hour time periods and then go 18 hours on a fast and you say that gets your body moving and using energy most efficiently. >> surprisingly and that's part of the s paradox. the shorter the period we eat food the more energy we produce the better our mitocondria are, the better the producers are that handle food they eat and thedl more down time they have rest, repair, and get ready for the next day. think about it, we don't repair our freeways during the day because there is too much traffic. we repair them during the night when there isn't much traffic. and we have very little time to repair our energy producing mi
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