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from across the atlantic. your final analysis of the checked swing in the dodgers/giants game last night. >> i'm sorry you were robbed, clearly. that was a bad call. look, he stops. he doesn't strike. even i knew that. >> that's right. >> maybe. that's what they say in yorkshire. >> san francisco, the entire bay area was robbed. katty kay has spoken, the case is closed. mike, good luck tonight, i guess, to the red sox. thank all of you for watching this week. we'll be back with you on monday morning. for now, stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage. ♪ hey, there. i'm stephanie ruhle, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it is friday, october 15th. let's get smarter and get to the news. here's what you need to know today. charges are coming amid a battle between lawmakers and top trump
allies. the committee investigating the january 6th attack says it is officially moving forward with contempt charges against steve bannon after he failed to comply with a subpoena. everything you need to know about the fight playing out in washington. meanwhile, across the country massive labor strikes are under way. more than 10,000 auto workers standing up to agricultural mega giant john deere, while thousands of hollywood workers could take to the picket line any day now. and it is the end of a very big week in the fight against covid. right now an fda advisory panel is meeting to review the johnson & johnson booster shot, after giving a unanimous go-ahead to the moderna shot yesterday. we've got to start with breaking news. former president bill clinton is recovering in a california hospital this morning. we are just learning that he went in on tuesday for an infection, but doctors are hoping to send him home soon. nbc's steve patterson joins us with the latest. it sounds like this could have
been very bad for the former president, but good news is he's heading home. what details can you give us? >> reporter: well, stephanie, there's no doubt about the severity of this incident, particularly because the former president has had health issues in the past, specifically when it comes to his heart. 2004 had quadruple bypass surgery, 2010 had stents put in. yet they are told this illness has nothing to do with covid and nothing to do with his heart. and i think the most important take-away here is that he's up, he's conscious, he's been talking to doctors, he's been in good spirits. in fact, there is a statement from the clinton team that says he's on the mend, in good spirits, incredibly thankful to doctors and nurses and staff for providing him with care. still, cause for concern, he was here tuesday as part of the clinton foundation event. we're told he was meeting with friends, started feeling sick, started feeling a severe fatigue, so taken to the hospital here. we're told at some point he was transported to the icu, but then
a clarification came that that was mostly out of privacy concerns that didn't morph into something more dire. we're told according to a cnn, report, he may have been taken for uti issues, maybe a urinary tract infection, which morphed into something more serious within his bloodstream. he's been here since tuesday, been on a steady drip, iv drip of fluids, antibiotics, responding to those well. by all accounts, according to doctors, he should be home at some point pretty soon, stephanie. >> well, we are sending him well wishes right now. steve, thank you. now we've got to turn to the latest from the january 6th committee. we have been waiting to see how the committee would respond to trump aides who are brazenly and boldly blowing off their subpoenas. well, here we go. now we know what is going to happen. after steve bannon refused to show up for a deposition on capitol hill, no surprise, committee chairperson bennie
thompson announced they will move to hold bannon in criminal contempt. he writes, quote, the select committee will not tolerate defiance of our subpoenas, so we must move forward. it's not like there are u.s. marshals banging on bannon's door today. there's a process. it starts with a vote on tuesday, then it goes to the full house and ultimately to the u.s. attorney of washington, d.c. at the very same time, the fight with bannon should not overshadow the potentially good news. kash patel and mark meadows are apparently cooperating with the committee. their depositions have been postponed, but it is believed they are still going to happen. i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent and white house correspondent for pbs news hour and moderator of washington week on pbs and former federal prosecutor. the committee wants to make taxes, but i said it. it's not like there are u.s. marshals banging down bannon's door today. walk us through the process, and because it's a bit of a long
process, could this thing still get detailed? >> yeah, it is a long process, and what's going to happen is the committee is going to convene next week where they will vote to recommend that the house of representatives send bannon's contempt to the department of justice, and then the full house is going to have to take that vote, and then after it does, presumably, that will pass, it goes to the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia, where they will decide if they press charges or not. if the district attorney -- if the attorney presses charges, then there's a trial and he could be acquitted, he could be found guilty. if he is found guilty, then steve bannon could appeal. now, an important thing to note here as well is this criminal process does not still compel bannon to cooperate with the committee. so all of this can be happening and he could be prosecuted and he could be sentenced to up to a
year in prison, but he still doesn't have to cooperate with congress. and so if bannon decides to cooperate, perhaps the charges will be dropped, but this is a -- this is meant to send a signal to the rest of the people who are subpoenaed, but bannon could delay and prolong this as long as possible, and ultimately there's really a deadline in this entire process, which is the midterm elections of next year. if the democrats lose control of the house, republicans could disband this committee altogether. >> so lee ann just laid it out, even if he's held in contempt, it doesn't get the committee any closer to getting the information they want. >> that's right, not in the short term. what you have here is really a process that needs to play out. you have the committee members essentially then going possibly to the doj to hand that over to say, okay, can you do this. i was reading, sort of doing a deep dive on all of the different options for congress, and one of them is this idea
that these people could be possibly brought to congress and held there, or possibly held in a dc jail. we're a long way from that, but there are a lot of options. what is clear is they're taking this seriously. they're not saying this is something they're going to have a slap on the wrist for. subpoenas from congress, especially during the trump era, they were seen as not worth the paper they were printed on. now democrats are trying to say we are going to have a real investigation, we're going to have teeth behind this, and of course they have the backing of president biden, who has been very clear that he's willing to waive executive privilege and he wants to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th, what was the president saying, what was the former president's aide saying, what were the options in front of them, what decisions did they make. and so i think in some ways you can see this is a more serious phase and the lawmakers on this committee are saying take us seriously. i also want to say i'm looking forward to talking about some of this with you tonight on
"washington week". >> tonight with you at 8:00 p.m., i've got a hot date. i hope you'll be watching. they just laid it out. this doesn't help in the short term. what if there is no long term? bannon running the clock, waiting for the midterms, hoping republicans win, and then this whole committee could be, proof, gone. >> well, steph, to the extent there's any good news, bannon will not be able to run the clock the way a dan mcgahn was able to run the clock because we need to recognize the difference between civil litigation, which is what don mcgahn was involved in, and he successfully, you know, weaponized the delay more than two years before he negotiated his own favorable terms of appearing before congress. what will happen to bannon now is congress will refer him for criminal contempt, for a criminal prosecution, and the federal law says once that referral is made, the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia shall present the case to the grand jury for its action. if the grand jury indicts based
on the evidence, then we have a criminal prosecution. and guess what? steve bannon doesn't control the delay. he doesn't control the clock. in fact, the speedy trial law says from the day you're indicted until the day government is expected to take you to trial, 70 days. that's still some delay. but unlike the civil litigation, stake donald trump's tax returns where they appeal all these decisions up and down the appellate court chain and it takes years, criminal prosecutions typically, the defendant cannot weaponize the delay. so we should see a prosecution of him pretty promptly that will land him in jail if convicted for no less than 30 days and no more than one year. >> but what if this is exactly what steve bannon wants? here we are talking about him for days on end. dina powell might not like that we're showing all these videos
of him sitting next to her. but he now has the opportunity to become a martyr for trump. doesn't he love that? >> he absolutely loves that. let's remember that steve bannon is someone who understands the media. i'm thinking back to roger stone's lessons to former president trump and even mad media is seen as good media in that people are talking about you. steve bannon was irrelevant, remember when he left the white house and fell out with president trump, there was a few months where we didn't hear from him. this is really in some ways him being able to stand up and saying i'm fighting as hard as ever for former president trump. i will say one of the things we talked about a bit is the idea that mark meadows and kash patel are engaging. i can tell you the former president is not going to like those headlines, he's not going to like the idea they are talking to these lawmakers. steve bannon has an opportunity to juxtapose himself to mark meadows and kash patel and say i'm not doing what those aides are doing. >> why exactly should we believe
that kash patel and mark meadows are cooperating? i don't buy it. >> well, the committee says they're cooperating enough, anyway, that they are not going to receive these referrals for criminal contempt. so mark meadows and kash patel, we don't know what level of cooperation, we don't know how many documents they've submitted, we don't know if they are actually going to comply with depositions. but we do know the committee has not referred a criminal contempt in these two cases, and so for the time being, anyway, the committee is satisfied. >> for now. leigh ann, thank you. glenn, i'm not letting you go just yet because we need to talk about former president trump, because he's got legal troubles of his own, courtesy of the new york state supreme court. on monday, trump has been ordered to give a deposition in a lawsuit brought by demonstrators who were beaten up by trump's security guards during a 2015 protest.
it is one of the latest of ten civil suits pending against the former president. nbc's tom winter joins me in new york. glenn is still around. walk us through this. >> this stems back to september 3rd, 2015. it was going to be a big press conference at the trump tower because that was the day trump was going to come forward and say i promise and pledge not to be a third-party candidate. i will move forward as a republican candidate. that's when this was still a debate. it goes all the way back to this. this group of individuals, six of them of mexican decent had protested several times outside of the trump tower against trump's policies with respect to immigration, the wall, et cetera. on this day they were there, but there were a lot more press because of this press conference, there were many more people outside of trump tower, and they say that trump's security staff, including keith shiller, trump's former body guard, roughed them up, in one instance purching them in the head, attempting to choke them. these are their allegations. and also taking their signs and
protest placards and tearing them up. >> is trump showing up? >> that's what they allege. trump on monday by a judge's order has to show up for this deposition. if there's some sort of really extreme circumstance, whether it be a medical condition or some sort of a travel condition, he has to, again, by a judge's order, complete this deposition by the end of this month. it is different than what has occurred so far. trump, either through the appellate courts, was able to get a stay of his deposition while he was in office and afterwards just kept delaying and kind of stalling according to the attorneys that are involved that are suing the president. the judge finally stepping in and saying enough is enough, you've got to sit, you've got to take this deposition. >> glenn, i've heard enough is enough many times over the last five years. if he doesn't, then what? >> so here's how that will play out. nobody will send law enforcement authorities to lock donald trump up and drag him to sit for a deposition. what will happen is the opposing
party will apply to the court for what's called a show cause order. they will ask the court to direct donald trump to show cause why he shouldn't be held in contempt. now, steph, you know, depositions are held thousands of times every day in this country, and they're sort of a little bit ungamely, and people lie all the time in depositions and rarely are there any consequences, unless the person being deposed happens to be particularly high profile or notorious. think about what happened to bill clinton as a result of his testimony in a deposition. so this is something i think we should keep a close eye on, and we'll see whether donald trump appears on monday or not. and if not, i would expect the court to get involved. >> i wonder what oddsmakers are saying about this. glenn, tom, we'll be watching monday, i assure you. we're going to leave it there for now. coming up, companies across the country are dealing with
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this morning massive labor strikes across the country, more than 10,000 workers walked out of farm equipment giant john deere. the strike against cereal giant kellogg is also entering its second week and in hollywood thousands of tv and film workers are days away from striking. morgan chesky is tracking all of this from dallas. morgan, what do these workers want and what are the companies saying? >> reporter: yeah, steph, it is pretty simple. better conditions, better pay. the company is saying they're trying to work this out as fast as they can. as with all things, timing is absolutely everything. say you're a farmer or a rancher that relies on john deere equipment like these tractors. now that we're right in the middle of harvest season, finding a replacement part and getting repairs could be much harder to come by as a result of this ongoing strike. and the john deere strike just one of several nationwide, as workers try to take advantage of this labor moment.
this morning american union workers helping keep your favorite foods in stock and tv shows on air, flexing new leverage. picket lines popping up nationwide, amid industry labor shortages and severe supply chain issues. >> the cheap labor bubble has finally busted. >> reporter: more than 10,000 members of the united auto workers union clocking out and speaking up. the group keeping 14 john deere plants running across five states demanding more. >> if we have to sit out of work a while, we will. >> reporter: the halt coming during a record-breaking year for the agricultural giant. $4.7 billion in profits so far. john deere says they'll keep operations running while trying to resolve the rift. the demands, workers rights from coast to coast. >> if you clock in for a living, we're fighting for you. >> reporter: this is an airline union member who works for
american airlines. he is now visiting picket lines nationwide to show support for other unions, paying out of his own pocket to visit nebraska for a kellogg labor fight and nabisco strike in portland. >> what shifted to bring us to this moment? >> a lot of upset workers. we're tired of being in the background and watching the ceos make all this money. >> meanwhile in hollywood, a potential strike by 60,000 tv and film workers is days away. in a series of tweets thursday, theirs union writing if the studios want to fight, they poked the wrong bear. their calls their higher pay, better benefits and meal breaks growing louder. more and more american workers look to the future. >> i think they're not willing to take it anymore and that's showing up in the strike activity, it's showing up in high quit rates, it's showing up in jobs being vacant for longer,
and in fact it's forcing employers to do better. >> reporter: and we are also following other potential strikes, this one on the west coast. health care giant kaiser permanente has said more than 20,000 of its employees are voted to authorize a strike. they say this is because of pandemic strain, because of potential pay cuts. meanwhile, the system says if it was to happen, it could have a crippling effect, steph. >> a crippling effect. and do not forget labor strikes are one of the challenges facing business right now. we told you about the backlog at ports like this one and how they are causing nationwide shortages. when you add that to people walking off the job and the record number of people quitting, that could spell disaster not just for big business, but especially for small businesses. especially those who can not pay up to get supplies faster. >> we have been planning for the holiday for the last year and working tightly with our vendors
to bring in the inventory and have it ready to go. >> is this the christmas that kills the little guy? for a small business that's in any of these categories, how on earth can they compete? >> i think it is difficult for small businesses. >> sure is. let's dig deeper and bring in an economics professor at northeastern university. also with us, the founder of the clothing company ever lane. you've been on my mind. businesses like yours, you run a very successful start-up clothing company that's mostly online. help us understand, how hard has it been for you to get the materials, to get what you need, to get your stuff shipped out with all these delays? >> yeah, thank you. it has been a total whirlwind. the easiest way i can explain it is almost a game of tetris. we've had to deal with the shutdowns of the factories, we've barely got material, then
you're seeing shutdowns in places like vietnam, and those are causing our supplies to not even arrive in the factories. then we're sitting, waiting for boats for sometimes up to 30 days before it can be sent out. the whole impact of these labor shortages, these factory shutdowns, are causing us to have delays all the way through the supply chain and then, of course, increase in cost that flows through. it has been a challenge every step of the way for us. >> alysia, you're a public policy expert. the white house stepping in to get these ports and companies running around the clock, is that enough to fix this? this is a global supply chain problem. it is complicated. >> yeah, there's multiple facets to this problem, but the white house, i think, could be doing a bit more than they are right now. we know this isn't going to be a private sector solution because it's largely still a temporary crisis, even though it's a big problem, we know it's a
bottleneck. for that reason, there's no incentive for private sector firms to jump in and build excess capacity. you don't build a church or easter, you build it for the average week. some things the white house could be doing is getting the domestic shipping in order by demanding commercial data sharing like other countries. the world bank back in 2018 ranked the u.s. 14th in terms of coordination of shipping. that's something that's been a problem for a while. second of all, we just saw in the last report, labor is a critical component to this and it's in high demand across the economy and workers are striking, they're in short supply. it's estimated we need 60,000 truckers alone this year. wages have already gone up $20,000 for truckers, so there's not too much more to go there. and it takes time to license and train these new workers. and we already have actually a ready-made workforce with those skills in the national guard. in massachusetts there's been a crunch for school bus drivers
and the governor has called up the national guard to drive kids to school. we could be doing that to ships across the country. and then finally we need to be working much more closely with china and our other trading partners, even just a small number of covid cases is enough to shut down a port in china. we've seen that in august. and then other countries like vietnam, sri lanka, we've seen the delta variant is really just slowing things down there. so, again, fighting the virus is going to help us fight and win for the economy. >> michael, are you getting big-footed by bigger companies? bigger companies can afford to charter their own cargo ships, this can pressure suppliers and say, if you don't deliver to me first, you're done with me forever, and they've got much deeper pockets than you do. >> without a doubt. we were sitting on a port waiting probably a month ago in vietnam for us to get on a boat and we were ready to go, and
apple came in and spent the money and knocked us right out and we had to wait another two weeks. you can see how these big companies are coming in and flexing their muscles. they're really taking advantage of this moment and we saw that same impact right now as the factories open up in vietnam. we've had two months of closures. and at this point companies are coming in and saying, i'll pay $5 more a unit to get to the front of the line. the impact of that, though, is they're going to send that to the consumer and costs will go up. >> are you worried this could be the nail in a confederate for a lot of small businesses? i'm thinking about toy stores waiting for their shipments knowing that amazon and walmart are going to step right in front of them. >> absolutely. this is such a challenging time for small businesses. with those delays we're seeing they can't get the components to actually make the goods to start off with, and then with the transportation costs, which have doubled since july, which
doubled since january, they can't get their goods to where they need to distribute them to sell them. and i know as a parent of a 9-year-old, i'm worried about what's going to be happening, particularly for the category of lol surprise dolls because amazon just dropped their toy list and i am already scrambling to find what i'm going to need for the holidays. >> lol surprise dolls, i know them only too well. thank you both so much. i appreciate you joining us. coming up, when it comes to facebook, we keep asking the question, what are lawmakers actually doing? our next guest says they are doing a lot. we're going to ask him about it next. sk him about it next that' your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ i've lost count of how many asthma attacks i've had. but my nunormal with nucala? fewer asthma attacks. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems.
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you enter code free. now to a new bill that could shake up companies like facebook and what they can get away with. democrats are pushing to lift the liability shield that protects platforms that post dangerous content, but the question is, is any of this going to get passed? joining me to discuss, someone who has been working on this for over a year, rhode island democratic congressman david cicilliny. we spent a lot of time last week railing against congress saying you're not doing anything, it's your turn. you say that's not the case and you've been doing a lot. explain. >> yeah, it was maddening. thank you for having me, stephanie. we began the investigation in the last congress of the large digital platforms, and we had
bipartisan investigation, the first antitrust investigation in 15 years in congress. we had ten congressional hearings, 17 round tables, produced over a million pages of documents. we wrote a 450 page report, which found that these large technology platforms have monopoly power, they favor their own products and services, they crush competitors, and as a consequence, we put forth a set of recommendations. we moved forward in a bipartisan way for the first five of these bills to really restore competition back into the digital marketplace. the business model these platforms use is one of extraction. they just take data and monetize it. facebook, the recent whistleblower is aligned with exactly what we found. we had a whistleblower as well who said the same thing. all facebook cares about is growth regardless of the consequences. so we have a series of bills that have passed out of the judiciary committee that will
come to the floor this fall that will really restore competition back into the digital marketplace. >> when in the fall? you've done all the work and you have a 400 page report but that's all bird cage lining unless it becomes policies and laws. >> absolutely right. and it's important to note that competition policy, antitrust policy is part of the answer. we also need reform, section 230 to hold these platforms accountable for their dangerous and toxic content. second we need the privacy bill. but we're not the antitrust subcommittee and we spent six months studying this and have bipartisan. the senate is introducing the same bills, companion bills, and we're now in the process of working through our caucus, both republican and democratic caucus to make sure people understand the dangers this consolidation presents, what these bills do and don't do. as you know, these large technology platforms have
unlimited resources, they have millions and billions of reasons to protect the ecosystem that has generated them profits never seen in the history of the world. so we're battling the biggest giants in america right now. but it's critical to the future of our democracy and the future of our economy. innovation, what drives innovation is competition. when you don't have competition, you have monopoly power, you see a decline in innovation, a decline in quality, a decline in choice. so this is about restoring competition for all those benefits. this is not going to be easy because with concentrated economic power comes concentrated political power. but there's a lot of moment ums for these reforms. i think the american people are demanding that congress do its job and rein in big tech. >> last week when you're watching facebook say, yes, we're ready for regulation, do you buy it or is that a complete
lie? because you know the massive lobbying efforts they've got going on in dc right now. >> it is a complete lie. none of these large technology platforms have any interest at all in disturbing this ecosystem, as i said, that has generated profits never seen before in the history of the world. they will do everything they can to protect the unfair anticompetitive behavior, basically do whatever they want to generate money. this campaign, congress, we wish you would regulate us, is a ridiculous lie. anyone who comes to washington will see an army of lobbyists, they've hired everyone they can to stop any reforms and defeat all our bills. they tried to do it in committee, they're going to try to do it before we get to the floor. they said we would never be able to get this done in a bipartisan way. we've proved them wrong at every stage and we're going to prove them wrong at the final stage
because these reforms are critical to preserving our economic strength and preserving our democracy. >> boom, from the guy leading these efforts. when you hear facebook say we want regulation, the truth is, that is a big, fat lie. congressman, thank you for joining me. always good to see you. we're also following breaking news out of overseas, a member of the uk parliament stabbed several times while meeting with constituents at a church. matt, what do we know about this? >> reporter: stephanie, we really don't know very much at all. this really just happened. we're hearing sir david aims was at what they call a constituent surgery, which is just a name here. all that is is just opportunities where politicians go and meet with their constituents, and from earlier reports we're getting, and this was only a few moments ago, a man walked into this constituent
surgery and stabbed david aims several time. our understanding from media reports is that he's being treated on the scene. this was, of course, in his region of essex in london. there were sightings of an air ambulance. the suspect was immediately arrested, and police have announced they're not looking for any other suspects. as far as we know right now, the crime is over, the injuries have been sustained. the man who was stabbed, the conservative politician, he is still alive and we don't have any real word yet on how bad his wounds are. but it sounds like he's being treated there, so we'll get you more when it comes to us. >> please do. thank you. coming up, as the fda panel meets on the johnson & johnson booster shot, we're seeing pushback against vaccine mandates that's putting safety and shipping in the cross hairs. what you need to know next. we've got the facts.
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developing this morning, an fda advisory panel meeting right now to discuss the potential for a johnson & johnson covid booster shot. the meeting comes after the panel decided to recommend emergency use authorization for a moderna booster shot on thursday. that decision now goes to the fda, which is expected to make a final ruling in the next few days. the vaccine mandate for teachers and staff in los angeles is now officially in effect. staff must show proof of at least one dose by today, and be fully vaccinated by november 15th. joining us now, claudia is in italy where port workers are protesting the vaccine mandates there and meagan fitzgerald joins us in illinois where public workers in chicago must be vaccinated by midnight and there's protests coming. megan, the head of chicago's police union, police union, is now saying hell, no, to the vaccine mandate. is he not aware of how many police officers lost their lives
to covid in the last year? >> reporter: yeah, steph, you're absolutely right and we were talking over 700 police officers that lost their lives to covid since the pandemic began. but the police union president believes the city does not have the author to require police officers to report their vaccination status. so he's telling them not to reply or to comply with the mayor's mandate. as you said, that deadline is looming. it is tonight for all city employees to either report their vaccination status or to pay for byweekly covid tests out of their pocket. now, of course, this creates a completely different situation for police officers who can't just go on leave, because that would create an incredibly vulnerable situation for residents here in chicago, as crime is surging here. but the police union president says that thousands of officers are to not report to work tomorrow if this mandate is
enforced. and so just within the last couple of minutes we're hearing from the mayor of chicago, mayor lori lightfoot, who says at her direction, she's asked for city lawyers to file what's called a complaint for injunctive relief, so essentially trying to stop the police union and the president from encouraging officers to walk off the job. she says that the union president is being misleading to these officers, suggesting that there won't be any consequences for their actions, and also saying it's unlawful for officers to strike. this is a standoff that's happening right now and we are going to be following this very closely as we head into the weekend, steph. >> claudia, take us to italy. port workers in one of italy's largest shipping and transport hubs are blocking access to the port because they're protesting the vaccine mandates there. how big of an impact can this have? we know we are having all sorts of shipping problems here in the u.s. >> reporter: that's right,
stephanie. it was supposed to be the biggest protest since the introduction of green passport workers across italy. that means every single worker, tens of millions in the public and private sector, will need to show they're vaccinated or show a peg test to get to work today. so far, only port workers who do not have the pass certificate did protest this morning in front of one of the entrances. no major disruptions so far. there were some tense moments this morning, they tried to block the access to some of the workers who do have the green pass, so they're either vaccinated or they tested negative, who just want to get to work. some tense moments there. but at the end of the day, port authors say it is business as usual, stephanie. >> good, business as usual. that is what we need. claudio, megan, thank you so much. coming up, a disturbing story you need to hear. one texas school official
district advised teachers, if they have a book about the holocaust in their classroom, they should also offer students access to a book from an opposing perspective. the holocaust, that is according to an audio recording obtained by nbc news. antonia hilton has been digging into this important story. you've got to watch this. >> reporter: west breyerson, a daughter of two daughters in south lake, is uncertain about his kids' education. >> with some of the local politics right now, i'm not sure that teachers feel supported. >> reporter: the district already in the spotlight after parents clashed over its diversity plan. now facing new pushback over which books are allowed in their libraries. with some teachers placing caution tape over book shelves. calling the move censorship. it all started when a fourth grade teacher was reprimanded after a parent complained about her having a book about antiracism. >>ic i couldn't believe it. she's the kind of teacher that
we would hope the district would be kind of attract. >> reporter: the district sent new teachers to vet all books, encouraging them not to allow considered perspectives that could be considered offensive. this after texas passed a law banning the teaching of concepts that could make individuals feel guilt or anguish because of their race. nbc news obtained exclusive audio of a training. >> we are in the middle of a political mess. >> reporter: the director of curriculum offers an example for teachers. balance books about the holocaust with an opposing view. >> make sure that if you have a book on the holocaust, you have one that has an opposing -- >> how do you oppose the holocaust. >> i met with two concerned teachers in south lake. we obscured their identities because they feared speaking out could cost them their jobs. >> i was in such shock when i heard these words. >> we felt this was necessary
because we felt like no one was going to listen until a teacher spoke up. >> reporter: and it's not just in south lake. across the country, educators are facing new policies restricting how they can educate students about race. from tennessee to pennsylvania. south lake school district told nbc news, they were helping teachers comply with texas law and the district has not and will not mandate books be removed. >> the district says that they have not told teachers to ban books to completely shut down libraries. what are you seeing? >> that's a lie. it is a flat-out lie. like, there are -- how could you even make that statement? >> what do you think is at stake here. >> in books, children see what the world can be and to have that taken away because we're afraid of a few parents getting upset about a word or two or an idea that they've imagined is in a book is unthinkable. >> reporter: west fryerson says his daughters see what's happening. >> unfortunately, for kids at that age of mind, i think the
last -- as they become aware of the world, i think they just see the world as very highly politicized. >> reporter: but parents hope that politics find a way out of public schools. >> antonia hilton joins us now. antonia, you have been covering this school district for months. can you take us there? we are living in an age of misinformation. where is this community in texas? did they not have access to facts? >> absolutely not. this is a community right outside of dallas. this is a community with many college-educated folks. people who are executives at companies like american airlines or goldman sachs. the type of folks that live in cosmopolitan communities all over the united states. but what we're seeing in states like texas and where these laws are passing -- >> while no one is paying attention. >> well, some are paying attention and trying to raise alarms about these laws and they're broad. and what we find is educators
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friday. the texas abortion law that effectively bans the procedure after six weeks of pregnancy will remain in place after a ruling by the fifth circuit court of appeals on thursday. president biden has signed a bill extending the debt limit just days before the treasury says the u.s. would have defaulted for the very first time. and nbc news has learned the biden administration plans to restart a trump-era policy that forces migrants who are seeking asylum to wait in mexico for their u.s. immigration court hearings. president biden ended the so-called remain in mexico policy after he took office, but were ordered to reinstate it after several border states sued. and a dramatic new turn in the legal drama surrounding alec murdoch, whose family is at the center of a growing murder mystery in south carolina. the once prominent attorney is now facing new charges. catie beck is live in south carolina with more. catie, what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning, steph. this is the second time in a
month that alec murdaugh is in police custody, face two new felony charges this morning. those charges are related to a 2018 wrongful death suit of his former housekeeper, gloria sadderfield, her sons alleged that he pursued a settlement on her behalf and kept that for himself. when the south carolina law enforcement officials announced these charges yesterday, they noted this is just one step in what they consider to be a long process to justice for all of the victims in these investigations. this is a complex and unraveling case and the more that goes on, the more questions we have about exactly how things will turn out. as for now, we know that alec murdaugh is being held in florida. he is set to have an extradition hearing there. he has been in therapy -- rehab for opioid addiction. he will be transferred here to south carolina where he will face these new charges and face
a bond hearing probably next week. steph? >> mysterious, strange, and complicated. and we're going to stay on it. catie, thank you. thank you at home for watching. that wraps up this very busy hour. i'm stephanie ruhle. jose diaz-balart picks up breaking news coverage right now. >> thank you, stephanie. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart and we begin this hour with breaking news. bill clinton is in the hospital this morning, being treated for an infection. his spokesman says he's in good spirits and physicians say that his prognosis is good. we're going to bring you the very latest, next. and in news overnight, the biden administration set to restart the trump-era policy that forces migrants seeking asylum to remain in mexico. it's a policy that president biden once called inhumane. and happening brown, an fda advisory panel is meeting to consider the johnson & johnson booster shot. this after the fda already approved boosters from pfizer and moderna.