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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. my colleague picks up our news coverage now. >> thank you, reverend. hello, everyone. i'm -- we kick off this sunday with president biden wrapping up the g-20 summit trying to reclaim the u.s.'s role as a global leader. back at home his approval rating is taking a dive with many americans saying they're uncertain where the country is headed. a new nbc poll shows the president's approval rating has dropped to 42%. that's a decline of 7 whole points since august. and it's the lowest approval rating for any modern president in their first year with the key
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exception of donald trump whose approval rating averaged 37% in 2017. @biden addressed the low ratings saying, quote, he's not running for the polls. >> the polls are going to go up and down. they were high early. then they got medium, then back up, now they're low. look at every other president. the same thing. that's not why i ran. i didn't run to determine how well i'm going to do in the polls. i ran to make sure i followed through on what i said i would do as president of the united states. and i said that i would make sure that we were in a position where we dealt with climate change, where we moved in a direction that was significantly improved, the prospects of american workers, being able to have good jobs and good pay. and further, i would make sure we dealt with the crisis that was caused by covid. we've done all of those. we continue to do them, and we'll see what happens.
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>> the nbc poll is after a rough few months for the president with the chaotic afghanistan withdrawal. the delta surge and covid cases, and democratic in-fighting over his own agenda. congress has spent weeks in messy debates over some of the president's key policies. several of which have been eliminated from the build back better bill altogether. those eliminations include provisions to lower prescription drug prices and medicare expansions. a group of democrats are reportedly hammering out a last ditch effort to get some of those things added back into the package before the aecht anticipated vote in the house on tuesday. senator bernie sanders is one of the democrats working on this. >> we're working today. we're going to work tomorrow to strengthen that bill. it is outrageous that we continue to pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. this is not easy stuff. but what we are trying to do is put together the most consequential piece of legislation in the modern
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history of this country which will transform the role of government in protecting the needs of working families. >> the president is now heading to scotland for the global climate summit with his agenda in the spotlight nationally and internationally, democrats are also closely watching two local races. in virginia's race for governor, it's basically a dead heat between democrat terry mcauliffe and republican glen youngkin. both of them are running for governor, of course. in new jersey a poll shows governor phil murphy has maintained a the point lead over the republican. joining me to talk about all of this is congresswoman susan wild of pennsylvania. congresswoman, thank you for being here this evening. >> thank you so much. happy to be here. >> representative, what last-minute changes would you like to see in this bill? and do you think that they're likely to happen before tuesday's vote?
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>> i do. we've been working all weekend. i've been in touch with leadership most of the weekend, talking about some of the changes that we absolutely need to get in. the chief among which is my personal priority, the reduction of prescription drug prices and making sure that we can get meaningful, substantive medicare negotiation of drug prices into the bill. i've also been in touch with the leadership about deductibility of worker's expenses which were taken out by the gop tax scam of 2017. there are other priorities i know other people are working on. we're going to get a bill together. it's going to be a really good bill for the american people. >> some of the things that you mentioned, though, once they get through the house, there is always the problem of the senate and senators manchin and cinema have shown opposition to key parts of the bill. do you think the bill might stall in the senate after its passed on tuesday?
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>> i do not. we have made it very, very clear to the speaker and to leadership that we don't want to vote on a bill that isn't going to make it through the senate. house leadership is working very closely with the senate to make sure that whatever we vote on has essentially gotten the stamp of approval from the senate, all of the senators that we need in order to pass the bill, and i'm quite confident that the speaker and others in leadership will make sure that happens. >> and you mentioned getting provisions to lower prescription drug prices back in the bill. something i know a lot of american families are very concerned about. if this doesn't happen by tuesday, are you still willing to move forward with the bill as is? what are the plans for the future if that doesn't end up in the bill that you vote on tuesday? >> well, you know, it's going to be a transformative bill. if my personal priority does not make it into the bill, i will
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still vote yes, because there is so much that means so much to working class, middle class families, lower income people in america. so the answer is yes. we all -- you know, there's been a lot of criticism about the process, the sausage making, as they say. you know, i really want people to consider that when we do these big, important bills, there should be a process. you wouldn't want to think that something of this size and magnitude just gets a rubber stamp from members of the house. and so when everybody is weighing in with the priorities that are most important to them and the people in their districts, you're going to have what may appear to be a messy process. i would submit to you it's a legislative process. it's what we should go through when we are developing this kind of bill. but in answer to your question, there is so much in there that is of benefit to working families, to parents and to the children of this country.
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we have never gotten even close to universal pre-k for three and four-year-olds. that alone would be transformative for every child in this country. it would give them a substantial head start on their lives. and the studies show just how much of a difference it makes in their overall education. that alone is reason to vote for this bill. but there are so many other things. the limitation on child care expenses for working families. home care for seniors and people with disabilities which is something i've heard so much about in my district. and, of course, the largest investment in climate mitigation and climate forward changes that we have ever seen in this country. >> the climate provisions, i know, for folks out there, if they're not focussed on those climate provisions, that is the issue we should all be paying attention to, because it is the
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existential issue of our day and very important for those things to be in the bill. thank you so much for starting us off tonight for being here. please stay safe. for more on what to expect this week on capitol hill, i want to bring in a great panel, our senior politics reporter for the insider. white house reporter for the washington post, and democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst. i want to start with -- in virginia right now you basically have them running a mini donald trump campaign in a way? essentially it's -- you know, running on critical race theory and not having parents have enough influence over their children's education. do you think the mini trump campaign will work for glenn youngkin, or do you see other signs that mcauliffe is gaining strength in the late days here? >> i appreciate you classifying it for what it is. we know this is a trump-like
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play book the campaign is deploying and has deployed since the primary, and they're reenforing it in the last days of the campaign in a way we know is appealing to white voters as well as trump's base of republican voters. and that is going to be critical in the way we see independents breaking when we know youngkin is up in double digits among -- as well as the enthusiasm we knew from the beginning the gop would come in with. of course in years after presidential cycles, you do see a growth of enthusiasm among the party that does not have the white house. and so i sadly look at this information and say okay, mcauliffe, you're in trouble. and we know in a youngkin is defining the narrative around the campaign in the last few days here, but what really this comes down to as we all know, polls aside, voter turnout rules king here. and we know that virginia democrats are queens when it
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comes to geo tv, especially running up the score in northern virginia and richmond. going into tuesday, we could keep an eye on how mcauliffe is appealing to black and brown voters as well as the ground youngkin is making with independent voters. >> i can confirm that analysis is correct having been a field organizer for president obama in 2008. basically until 10:45, it's like what's going to happen? and then northern virginia, they run up the score a little bit. we'll see if those dynamics are still at play on tuesday. traditionally for the past two presidential cycles, that has been the case. tyler, to the point of enthusiasm, part of the reason why some activists are not so enthusiastic right now is because they're disappointed with president biden on certain issues including climate which we just talked about with the congresswoman. jade becay, a climate activist
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said, quote, president biden started very strongly by rejoining the paris agreement, but it's been frustrating the last few months, things have slowed down. joe manchin is holding hostage our survival on planet earth for his own political career, and people are really questioning if biden will stick to his promises. tyler, how can biden do more to show that he's actually going to live up to some of those promises he made on the campaign trail? >> yeah. i think there's two fronts on this point. the first one you made, he is somewhat hostage to the 50 democratic senators in the senate. there is not a path forward to make robust investments in climate change, given the political realities of the senate. look, the white house is very excited about the opportunity to pass this build back better agenda which has robust climate investment, and they're eager to tout as we heard from the congresswoman, that this is the largest investment the u.s. will ever -- has ever made, and if it
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does pass into climate change initiatives. at the same time, they wanted more, and i think that is the reality of a senate in which joe manchin has an outside influence, because there's no margin for error on the democratic front. another big part of the climate agenda that we'll see unfold in the next few days is biden and the u.s. president at the climate summit in glasgow. he's in rome but will head to glasgow for the international forum. there's a lot of pressure to sign some relatively substantive agreements for the world to work together to fight climate change. i covered president biden when he was a candidate and one of the things he often talked about was yes, the u.s. needs to take significant action at home to reduce our emissions, but at the same time, most of the global emissions come from outside the u.s. while it's important for the u.s. to set a standard for what it's doing, it's really
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important the u.s. plays a big role on the world stage to bring other countries along with them. i think that process is made harder by the u.s. not having its own legislation passed to prove its point that they are going to take significant action, but i think this week is a crucial time for the world beyond the u.s. to really come together and see what sort of action they're going to take in a collaborative manner to try to address climate change. >> it's all so important, keep in mind, as we watch the president abroad this week, because as there is a lot of activity on capitol hill, certainly our standing on the world changes as it relates to climate, it's incredibly important. and grace, president biden's approval rating is lower than any first-term president in modern history exempt for donald trump who averaged -- i think people would be surprised to hear that. what do you think president biden needs to do to win back favor with voters or maybe do you think it's just a sign of the times?
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>> yeah. that's a really good point. i think this is absolutely a function of the growing negative partnership and polarization we're seeing in our society and in american politics at large. more and more voters are getting dug in on their respective sides, and that translates to the approval ratings of president's most recently trump and now biden. i think that definitely passing a big chunk of his domestic agenda which congress is hoping to do this week may help the numbers a little bit. that's going to be fulfilling a lot of campaign promises he ran on. like he said, this is what happens to every first-term president after the honeymoon is over. they see a dip in their approval ratings and obviously, he was counted out many times by the polls when he was running for president. he's taking a more long-term view now but passing his agenda items is going to be crucial. >> thank you all. we do have some breaking news, though, to report from the white
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house. learning a short time ago that the press secretary has tested positive for covid-19. in a statement she writes that she and senior leadership in the administration decided she should not travel abroad with the president due to members of her household testing positive. and today she says she tested positive herself and has been in quarantine. she says she has not had close contact with the president, nor senior members of the administration. psaki says the last time she saw president biden was tuesday, and they sat outside more than six feet apart, and wore masks. next, the latest on the investigation into the attack on the capitol. new reporting dives into just how many documents the former president is working to keep hidden from the january 6th committee. plus those opposing new york city's vaccine mandate for city workers painted a grim picture of what could happen to public safety. but it appears instead many more ended up just getting
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former president trump is trying to conceal hundreds of pages including daily presidential diaries and white house diary logs prior to the january 6th insurrection. there's handwritten notes on january 6th to a draft executive order on election integrity. this comes as one of trump's top
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critics in the gop announces his retirement from congress. representative adam kinzinger saying he won't run for reelection and calling on other republicans to get to the bottom of the big lie. >> this is not on the ten of us that voted to impeach. it's not on liz cheney and i to save the republican party. it's on the 190 republicans who haven't said a word about it. if the republicans take the majority, they'll kill this committee. they killed an independent commission and any attempt to get to the truth. >> a new investigation from the washington post reveals the warning signs ahead of the capitol riot. and how some lawmakers prepared for the worst. the post reports congresswoman liz cheney feared a bomb threat january 6th and hired a private security detail to escort her to the capitol. we have guests joining us to discuss this.
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carol, i'll start with you. talk us through your latest reporting. this is a huge, extensive detailed piece in the washington post. what did you uncover about the capitol riot? and most importantly, all the things happening behind the scenes that we didn't know until now. >> you know, we think and pride ourselves as journalists in our ability to uncover all sorts of things in realtime or shortly thereafter the first draft of history. but what the washington post team that i'm proud to be part of discovered when we went back in the spring and tried to figure out what happened behind the scenes on january 6th, we learned there was a ton that we missed. and to adam kinzinger's point, we realized we had to embark on this work, because congress really didn't have the appetite for it. didn't have the appetite to dig more deeply. after we began our work, congress began its own special committee. we found the plot to storm the
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capitol and violently attack police and stop the election with might was being plotted in plain sight. federal investigators, national security officials, academic researchers, domestic extremist members, were calling and hollering to all sorts of law enforcement agencies something dangerous is going to happen on january 6th. here's what's being plotted. and for reasons that are still not clear to us, the fbi and other top federal agencies did not take it seriously enough. did not investigate more deeply. did not look aggressively at the people who weeks before this moment that you're filming said, hey, let's get some secure koms. let's kill some cops. let's make sure we take back our country and take trump our president. i'm paraphrasing, but the federal anti-terrorism
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operation, the entire architecture that was built after 9/11 to protect us from terrorist threats really didn't activate when these threats were being made in the weeks before that attack. >> from your reporting, carol, just a followup. do you know why? it feels to me like if these were islamic terrorists, even american domestically based terrorists, saying they were going to attack the capitol on any particular date, i feel like that evidence would have been taken more seriously. am i wrong in that assumption? is there anything you can glean from your reporting that helps you understand why no actions were taken? >> excellent question. and i'll tell you there's always a front door answer and a back door answer. and by that i mean there's the answer that the agencies officially give you and then the answers that you hear from people who aren't authorized to speak but are very senior. the front door answer, the one that's authorized, is that the fbi took this very seriously.
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they warned their law enforcement partners that some violence was possible, and everything that was a potential threat or the most serious ones, they shared with their partners at the capitol police. of course, they shared it with the capitol police after alerting them that they had declined to investigate or did not believe that these threats really warranted further review. the back door answer, that given to us by people who are speaking without authorization, is that the fbi really was in a cross hair, a cross hairs, forgive me. donald trump was trying to fire the fbi director at the time this was happening. the fbi director and the fbi agency was not viewing this group of individuals as the same kind of threat as islamists or even ante fa, and they were pulling their punches and sort
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of sitting back on their heels a little either in disbelief or in fear of what donald trump might do. >> harry, what are donald trump's chances of keeping records like the one carol is talking about, the document carol is talking about or presidential records secret from the january 6th committee? this sounds all so serious. >> it is so serious if you're wanting to know what the president knew and when he knew it, this is the mother load. it's the things that you mentioned. it's also drafts of the january 6th speech. it's also visitor logs. it's also the notes of mark meadows and steven miller. now, i think his chances of keeping them secret at the end of the day are low. but the day is long. and the immediate question is will he be able to tie things up
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long enough until the select committee has to basically shut down its work? that's a much more i havy proposition. his legal claims are weak but not bankrupt. and as we've seen so many times in the last few years, there's just this terrible difference between the natural timeline of a case and the natural timeline of a congressional investigation. the immediate focus will be will the district court, the first court to hear this, and it's a good, sensible judge, put -- impose a stay? and then, of course, it would go to the court of appeals to impose a stay and the supreme court. that the imp position of a stay will be the major event from the eventual ruling on executive privilege which i and i think most people who have studied it believe trump will lose eventually. >> what about a special prosecutor? i understand the january 6th
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select committee is doing important work, but as you just explained, when you're trying to hold people accountable and have them comply with subpoenas, it gets tough. so what about a special prosecutor in this case specifically dealing with the insurrection? >> yeah. so a couple things. first, congress is investigating more broadly under its legislative powers. there's a lot of things it's looking into that won't necessarily e vench wait in a crime. look at the mischief say, john eastman was up to in that first week. but it's not necessarily a crime. so there's that. and then second, you want a special counsel if there's a conflict. i don't think there's any conflict with the department of justice looking into what happened january 6th. wronk there's a conflict with them looking into what carol and her colleagues have detailed with a kind of lackluster response from law enforcement. so i don't think that's what's happening. i do think it's true that the
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department is weighing a lot of considerations, but we saw with mueller, say, who had to take aboard the policies of the department of justice, a special counsel would do the same thing. the reg says you get a special counsel when there would be conflict of interest. i don't see it here, even though i do see reasons why garland and the department are in a tricky, very tricky position with tugs and pulls on both sides. >> we're definitely living in unprecedented times. that's for sure. i appreciate both you for being here. it's an important story that as an american, i want every single detail. thank you both for helping us understand. please stay safe. >> thank you. next, how two gubernatorial races in the states of virginia and new jersey are actually post trump era tests for democrats. plus what rapper ludacris is
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the gubernatorial races in virginia and new jersey will be decided in just two days. and in many ways, it's a tale of two races. phil murphy is enjoying a roughly nine-point lead over his challenger. a lot of this is because murphy's effective handling of the coronavirus. but it's also because he's getting things done in his state as slate pointed out this week, new jersey has in recent years become a model of how to run a government that can respond to the united states' myriad of problems, old and new. down in virginia, it's a completely different story. the race here is neck and neck.
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glen youngkin and republicans are seeking to capitalize on long-standing social and racial divisions in the commonwealth in order to flip it red, and they're doing it by among other things, whipping up racial an mouse. here in a state with a history on race like virginia, it might prove effective, but we'll see. youngkin is currently running ads against teaching toni morrison's book "beloved" in high schools. mcauliffe spoke out about that this morning. >> now, of all the hundreds of books you could look at, why did you take the one black female author? why did you do it? he's ending his campaign on a racist dog whistle just like he started the campaign when he talks about election integrity. >> joining me now is the political strategist and biden campaign consultant. back with us grace and wa knee a. i'm in virginia, and i feel like
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there is so much going on. i mentioned the history of this particular state is important context to have. new york times reports that mcauliffe's campaign was amazed and baffled by the fact that biden couldn't deliver his agenda before election day here in the commonwealth, and they thought it could help boost mcauliffe's chances at winning. is there anger warranted? how much would the passage of these bills in the last few weeks, do you think would have influenced the race coming up on tuesday? >> well, i am just as baffled as you as a native virginian who has had to live with this very erie and dark history within our state, but i actually have to agree with mcauliffe campaign and those conversations, because it isn't helpful when the party in charge in the white house is seemingly not doing well. that's a separate conversation, but when we talk about terry mcauliffe, i think some people are forgetting he was a very successful and popular governor. i mean, he created over 200,000
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jobs when he was governor for the first time. so i think he's trying to make sure and the campaign is trying to make sure we're not focussed on this national agenda. we're focussed on what can happen here in virginia, because his administration as well as the one after his has moved the ball forward. and we want to continue on that progress. it is going to be a test for democrats in 2022. so hopefully, and i feel confident, optimistic, confident we'll pull it out in virginia and hopefully the bills in congress will be passed on tuesday, and then we'll have something to run on in the midterms of '22. >> i say turnout is the only thing that matters you can have the best message, but if you don't get voters to the polls, it doesn't matter. >> in virginia and new jersey, it always comes after the presidential election. we're talking about the national implications in mind. how does it affect the races that they are basically
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bellwethers for how the democratic party is doing after a huge presidential election headed into midterms? >> yeah. absolutely. we put so much more national focus on states like virginia and new jersey than there might be if they were held next year, they probably would not get this amount of attention and scrutiny. i think for both states, it's instructive. i think there's not that much of a huge difference between a slim republican or democratic win in virginia. in new jersey, we think of it as a blue state. i recently learned if murphy wins a second term, he'll be the first since 1977. that would be a significant development in new jersey. both of these states really position them as critical bellwethers. we also saw this back in 2013 when mcauliffe won for the first time. he won by a narrow margin, and
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then the next year we saw democrats had huge losses in the 2014 midterms. while the races can't tell us everything, they can be instructive. >> waneta, we've mentioned turnout multiple times. one of the things that's interesting about virginia and new jersey, there are rural parts and big cities in both states. it's going to come out down to turnout, but in specific places where you have your base of voters. early voting ended yesterday here in virginia. where do you see the race right now going into tuesday's election? i mean, everybody is paying attention, but we'll see how -- how many people actually show up. >> that's exactly right. and as i mentioned to you earlier in the hour, we know that virginia democrats have geo tv down to a science as far as running up the score in northern virginia and the richmond suburbs. i think that's what we can expect the play book to be again. it comes down to making sure
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that democrats can make up the gap in voter enthusiasm that we know exists between gop voters and -- the other indicator is how independent voters break. in virginia we saw youngkin gain double digits in the last monomoth poll. in new jersey independents are breaking 50/50. that puts murphy in a much more comfortable spot than mcauliffe going into tuesday. i comes down to turnout. and considering virginia has been highly efficient in reporting times, we may know something late late on tuesday night. >> in the last minute here, what about the door knocking? do you think that here in the state of virginia they're doing enough of that leading into tuesday? >> well, the mcauliffe campaign has had over 1 million voter contact efforts. and this weekend there has been event after event, and not just in the metropolitan areas that are northern virginia, hampton roads area and richmond. they're going into rural areas
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and doing door knocking as well as phone banking and up until the very last minute that the polls close to make sure that people are turning out on tuesday, and as we talk about turnout, we've had a historic number of early voting turnout. a million people have cast their ballot already early voting yesterday. so i do think the mcauliffe campaign is not leaving any stone unturned. they are leaving it on the field and doing as much as possible. i'm going to even phone bank a little bit before the election closes on tuesday. so we'll see what happens on tuesday night. >> technology makes it possible for everybody to do that from home if they are inclined. it's been great to have you tonight. and getting all the important analysis ahead of tuesday's elections. thank you for being here and please stay safe. tuesday is election night on msnbc. rachel maddow, joy reed, nicole wallace and steve kornacki, of course, will break down live results of key races happening
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thing is clear, vaccine mandates work. 91% of city workers are now vaccinated. there's one state welcoming unvax -- i can't steven say this without laughing. this is really happening, though. there is one state welcoming unvaccinated police officers with open arms. and even cash as an incentive. if you guessed which said it is, you were right. it is florida. with me now is dr. bernard ashby, a cardiologist. i'm sorry to laugh. this is not funny, but it's also funny. in your state, the governor is saying i will give you $5,000 if you're unvaccinated and want to come work in florida. you've been an outspoken critic of him handling the pandemic. what are your biggest concerns about this and broadly the way he's handling covid in florida? >> well, good afternoon.
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happy halloween. well, desantis has been remarkably consistent, if anything. i mean, his entire stance on this pandemic has been in opposition to what the science has shown. and if he says one thing, does another, and again, actions speak louder than words. with this new political ma nooufer, trying to advocate for the police and those who support the police, he's incentivizing unvaccinated police officers to come to florida. that sends the wrong message. if you talk to him, he'll say i support vaccines, vaccines work, yet, it took him a while to even admit that he was vaccinated. and his current surgeon general has yet to even confirm whether or not he's vaccinated. they can't say they're not playing politics when it's obvious they're playing politics. and his entire focus is really on his voting base and his bid
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to run for governor or reelection in florida, and it's obvious he's going to run for president. that's obviously all he cares about at this point. >> well, if that's all he cares about, what message do you think that sends to the voters of florida 245 he's -- that he's trying to play politics by offering $5,000 in a cash reward for police officers to travel to florida instead of actually dealing with the number of covid cases? he's celebrating the fact that in his view florida has been okay without any mandates, but does the data back that up? >> no. it doesn't at all. i mean, we were number one in infections and hospitalizations and deaths for a while this summer because of his incompetence and just blatant disregard for the pandemic. this guy was flying around the country doing campaign events or fundraising events while floridians were dying in large
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amounts. i would have thought his numbers would be much worse than they are today. they have taken a hit, but he is really good at marketing, really good at pr, and he's basically saying things that are not true, like his push to the antibody therapy which i agree with, but he did that weeks, a month later after we were already surging and in addition to that, he's given that -- he's saying that's the reason why the pandemic or at least the current -- recent surge has took a downturn. it wasn't because of that. it's because millions of people got infected in florida and the virus did what it should have done -- did what we expected it to do compared to uk and india where the delta variant kind of has a quick peek and a quick downturn, but yet, he's making the connection of his actions, and that's fundamentally not true. >> and that is why although his antics may be amusing on a certain level, this is deadly
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serious. doctor, i appreciate you being here on this sunday night. thank you so much and please stay safe. next, a snippet of my conversation with ludacris who has a brand new animated series inspired by his daughter, ludacris. and later a conversation with a climate activist attending this week's u.n. conference. i'll ask her what the biggest priorities should be for the united states in combating climate change.
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. rapper and actor ludacris is the creator and executive producer of a brand-new netflix children's series, "karma's world," which is about a young girl who dreams about becoming a rapper. the animated show is all about the importance of self-confidence, self-empowerment, and believing that you can do anything you set your mind to. i spoke to ludacris earlier this week about this new show and his inspiration for it. you've called this show a love letter to your daughter. why did you want to make this show? >> i wanted to make this show. it was inspired when my daughter was 6 years old and she came up to me and said, daddy, i want to rap too. i want to do music. i told her, if she wanted to do music, she has to talk about what goes on in her life, in her world. at that time it was all about school, learning morals, you know, enrichment. there was a little self-doubt in
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things she was going through like every human being does. of course when you're growing up, it can be overwhelming at times. i thought we're going to do this. we're going to create a whole world out of it. now, 14 years later through ups and down with animation, television writing, the music, we've got it to a point where it's perfected, and i feel like it's going to last even longer than what it took us to make. so it's here for decades, and the response has been overwhelming, and i could not be more proud and more happy that this is where my legacy is going to live. >> i love it so much, not just because the hair, the attention to detail on the coils of the curls is so accurate. but also because you made this, and you're somebody who has all girls. and i think that's also an important point in this story. tell us about what your experience has been like being a
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girl dad and what that's taught you about why a show like this and seeing representation is so important to young girls. >> you know, i just got asked a question the other day. they're like, man, you're so involved as a parent. isn't it hard for you to get into your creative process? and the answer to that question is i use my girls in order to create and get into the creative process, which would birth something like what you're telling the world about right now. how can i be creative and also be a great father? i can create something for my children and all the children of today and generations to come that balances out all the craziness and negativity in the world with all this positivity and enrichment and representation of us seeing ourselves on television, how important it is to empower not only young girls but just kids worldwide, all around the world. you know what i mean? diversity. using the fast and furious method of just showing inclusion
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