williams starts now. well, good evening once again on this night after election night. happens to be day 288 of the biden administration. it is as narrow as they get, but it is a victory, and indeed the breaking news over the last three hours is a victory for the democrats in the most densely populated state in our union. nbc news among many others projecting new jersey democratic governor phil murphy will serve a second term after the scare of his political life. no democrat has won re-election as new jersey governor since brendan burn in 1977 when some of us were seniors in high school. 24 hours ago it appeared murphy was headed for a loss and now a victory by a percentage point.

thank you for putting your trust in our team for another four years. thank you for saying that we need to keep moving forward on our shared journey to a stronger and fairer nung. -- new jersey. in new jersey we know how to make forward work, from the middle out to the bottom up. we know how to move forward and accomplish big things. if you want to know what the future looks like folks, come to new jersey. >> phil murphy tonight. the murphy win follows a big loss in virginia. a state biden won by ten points. the republican, glenn youngkin defeated terry mcauliffe. some big reasons, big turnout, unforced errors by mcauliffe. a well run campaign by youngkin and the fact that democrats have nothing to show where the voters are concern for having control of the white house, senate and house. there are fears of a blood bath in 2020. today the president was asked

whether the delay in passing his economic agenda led to the democrats defeat in virginia. >> people want us to get things done. it should have passed before election day. but i am not sure that i would be able to have changed the number of very conservative folks that turned out in the red districts that were trump voters. but maybe. maybe. >> some democrats in the senate were much less cautious about their assessment of yesterday's vote. >> look, if we had been able to deliver infrastructure and reconciliation in mid-october he could have sold universal prek, affordable child care, infrastructure, creating jobs. we blew it on the timing. >> congress has to deliver. we need to get it done. and as one who will be running for re-election in 2022, i need

results that i can show the american people. >> we spent enough time talking and thinking and enough time suggesting to america the good things are coming. now we have to prove it. >> house democrats who have been negotiating, some would call it fighting for weeks to bring the spending and infrastructure bills to a vote rejected their senate colleague views. >> did it help to not pass a bill and to have stories about dysfunction? no it did not. did it hurt? yes it did. was that the determining element that put the election one way or another, no. voters don't think that way. >> it happens to fall in this time where, you know, we did have elections and of course we have the natural backlash of a cycle. so i would just say to everybody to focus on the fact that we are going to pass two transformational bills. >> today republicans in congress

made it clear they see last night's election results as the voters rejection of biden and his policies and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell offered up his own sage advice for democrats. >> getting a result on the massive reckless tax and spending bill will not improve their position with the american people. i think the best advice i could give them politically after yesterday, they ought to drop the whole thing. >> now the after action report from house republicans echoed similar themes tacking on this warning of what is to come. >> if they continue to push these policies, it could be one of the biggest election losses for democrats. if you are a democrat, president biden won your seat by 16 points, you are no longer safe. >> house democrats are pushing ahead with the bills, stop us if

you heard it before. they say they are aiming for votes before the end of the week. today speaker pelosi said paid leave had been added back in to the spending bill expanding the social safety net and more deja vu here. west virginia senator joe manchin tonight made it clear he is still not convinced it should be included. >> if you put that paid leave in, it is not being paid for. i am all for paid leave and i people should have it. >> it should be done completely separately. >> also the day manchin's republican colleagues voted to block a voting rights big named after john lewis. the alaska republican senator was the only to crossover and vote with the democrats to bring the measure to the floor for debate but nine more republicans would have been needed. vice president harris spoke after this afternoon's vote. >> this is about our democracy and one of the most important

pillars of the democracy, whether or not we are going to make it more difficult as is happening in many states or protect it and make it easier for people to vote. that is what is at stake right now. it is a shame that nearly every republican in the united states senate refused to even allow a debate on the issue. >> majority leader schumer hinted democrats would find an altertive path to passing voting rights legislation even if they have to do it without republican support. well, with that let's bring in our starting line on this wednesday night. susan page, veteran journalist and author and long time bureau chief for usa today. a political reporter for the "washington post." author of the early morning newsletter and eugene robinson, good evening and welcome to you all. i have some idea how tired

everybody is. susan, it was a tough tuesday night for democrats. what is worse, the losses they suffered last night and the near misses or failing to learn lessons from last night? >> well, we will find out. the good news for democrats is they got this now. not six months from now. not a year from now in the midterm elections. not just in virginia. we have come to realize that the governor race would be close. they lost up and down the ballot in virginia. they almost lost new jersey. new jersey is about as true blue of a state these days as you can find. democrats do have lessons and democrats were drawing different lessons from that tough election night about what it is they better do. >> eugene, is there a singular

lesson to you that emerged from last night? >> i don't think we know yet, brian. i think political power can be fleeting. i think that is a lesson that should have been learned and democrats have the power now. democrats if they are going to use it better get on with it. that will probably help them politically, i think. also they might not have forever. but there are direct concrete consequences of this election for real people in virginia. you know, incumbent governor is a medical doctor during the covid pandemic and followed the science on masks and on vaccines. unclear to me whether youngkin will feel like he has to compete with the likes of desantis and greg abbott in the anti-science lane, reckoning with racial

justice. critical race theory stuff. it is unclear if youngkin is on board with that at all. you know, let's not forget that the elections actually mean something to people. >> and jackie, we heard from the president today sounding very much like him and trying to set a tone. but according to your reporting and that of your colleagues, what are the people in his circle saying? >> yeah. i think what they are saying is reflected more subtly in biden's marks. him calling on congress to do the job they were elected to do. and i think that some of the responses that we have seen today from democratic lawmakers are reflective of the schisms

that affected the party from day one and prevented them from getting president biden's economic agenda and overall agenda done in any sort of way. you had people like joe manchin who viewed the results in virginia as affirmative. calls for democrats to slow their roll and to be wary of things like inflation and the rising costs of goods and then you have progressives, people like, you know, like the senator that viewed the vote of the fact that progressives were not delivering all they promised to their base. either way biden highlighted and under scored that democrats had yet to deliver on the major priorities from voting rights to both infrastructure bills to really not much has gotten done since passing the american

rescue plan. whatever way democrats want to go, they have limited time to make it happen. >> susan, coming off of our last exchange, i have this from politico. democrats house majority and their path to the white house -- vagovernor elect glenn youngkin inroads with them proves democrats support in those suburbs is soft. the question, did democrats misread the situation and foolishly put all of their chips on being the senate trump party and just forget that sometimes issues like education are the ones that will resonate? >> you know, perhaps the most terrifying news for democrats last night is that trump is not that scary to the swing voters

when he is not on the ballot. the other thing, glenn youngkin demonstrated an ability to walk the tight rope and get endorsed by trump but not to be stained by him with voters seeing him as really toxic. glenn youngkin did something that republicans can learn lessons from. they are going to benefit from that. he got out trump voters and more in the rural red counties and flipped it cutting into the vote joe biden got among the swing voters. many came back to the republican party in a big way last night. if democrats are going to do all right during the congressional midterms, they need to get that back. >> eugene, that brings us to you and this question. should democrats change their message? forgive me and imply they have one other than we are not trump.

>> they need more of an affirmative message other than we are not trump. swing voters are called that for a reason. they swing back and forth. independents. the large chunk of voters these days describe themselves as independent and don't belong to either party. they have to be won. yes. democrats have to have an affirmative mixed message and it has to speak to the democratic base. it that's speak to those suburban white swing voters. it is not viable for the democratic party to write off rural america. i know that, you know, jamie harrison of the dnc would tell me we are not doing that. but in fact democrats are not as

competitive in rural america as they need to be if they wanted to build a solid majority that would last. >> if democrats believe that build back better by the 2020 midterms and presenting that to the voters as deliverables will be enough to beat back a culture war presumably on items like trans bathrooms and critical race theory, they are diluting themselves. is the problem not cultural, they are not fighting the same fight and certainly not playing by the same set of rules. >> i think there are two things here, brian. a bit of truth to that. one democrats biggest current problems to think they could

probably remedy immediately is the messaging issue they have when it comes to build back better. at the end of the day there is $1.75 trillion worth of new policies and deliverables to the american people. but because of all of the interparty fighting that it has been hard for members to communicate in a coherent way that resonates. but on the flip side of this what we have seen in virginia is that, you know, candidates really do matter. candidates messaging really matters. we have heard several democrats criticize terry mcauliffe for the way he handled the issue of schools with virginia parents which was really, you know, heavily contrasted what you saw from glenn youngkin who channeled the parental -- heavily coded with racial

language and dog whistles quite frankly. i think there was frustration from democrats with some of mcauliffe's responses. parents that home schooled their kids throughout the pandemic, you know, should not have a say in their kids education. i think there is a sentiment and a realization here that democrats need to come up with better answers to the cultural issues rather than sort of defaulting to the attack trump mode. >> susan, the last word coming off of what jackie said. some democrats were polite and others were direct saying terry mcauliffe did not run a great campaign. there was a sense of entitlement and a number of unforced errors including the one jackie just outlined. >> he looked backwards, not forwards and relied too much in

tying glenn youngkin to trump. he made the mistake in the debate saying he did not want parents telling teachers what to teach their kids. phil murphy ran a campaign that was not deemed that and he almost got defeated as well. terry mcauliffe might not have been the best candidate but he was not the only problem for democrats in what happened yesterday. >> great thanks to our starting line. thank you so much for staying with us yet another night. coming up, more on what both parties might take away and learn from last night's results. and a new book with a provocative title, woke racism. the author will join us to talk about the fact he might have stumbled upon a political suicide mission for the democrats. all of it as the 11th hour is

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>> more important is the complete inaction and keystone behavior of the democrats on capitol hill in the house and senate and you know, you decide whether you want to blame the moderates or progressives or both. but it looked terrible. it was terrible. it sent a message to democrats that election promises were not being delivered and therefore it wasn't that important to vote. >> not the message democrats

wanted to send to voters for sure on what transpired last night in virginia. nbc news points on out this. the fact that glenn youngkin won by keeping former president donald trump at a cautious distance, even at terry mcauliffe and the democrats presented them as one and the same gives party operatives confidence a post-trump playbook can work. back with us tonight, robert gibbs, former obama campaign senior advisor and former white house press secretary under president obama and hosts the hacks on tap podcast and editor at-large -- gentlemen, good evening. it was a long night. mr. gibbs, i would like to begin with your reaction to last night as you might have anticipated the question. >> well, look, brian. i am a braves fan. that was the best thing that happened last night. in terms of politics, it was terrible.

look. i think democrats had an awful night. there is no sugar coating that. on a lot of different levels. we won virginia a year ago by ten and we lost it by 12. we won new jersey by 16 and barely won it a year later. i do not think that there is much to like about last night and i think that if you are a democrat you need to wonder why we didn't run a campaign that had a message focused on the future. why were we depending on donald trump to be the one and only thing we had to run a campaign against. there are a lot of questions that we should ask ourselves and ask the campaigns and should ask capitol hill why we didn't look like we were a governing party for the last three or four months. i am worried there are not great answers. >> bill, over to you.

what did youngkin's win mean to you as an observive and someone with many years of political experience under your belt and any convertible lessons for it from the party or was it a one off? >> i don't think it was a one off. i don't think there is too much criticism. i was for mcauliffe. did a tiny bit with him. you know, he lost less relevance in 2017. 2017 than murphy, the governor of new jersey lost to his own showing in 2017. the democrats were destroyed in virginia and new jersey and suffered great losses in long island and westchester and upstate new york. it was a repudiation of the party and not individuals. it was a wave. you can have better candidates. democrats had a very attractive

lieutenant governor candidate against a flaky republican. she lost too. i think that is not good news. you can't blame it on one bad candidate. you have to say the image of the democrats wasn't great around the country. it is not disqualifying that the republican party hasn't repudiated donald trump or january 6th, hasn't repudiated the big lie. how foolish of the democrats to keep running against trump. mcauliffe said we can't have a governor that goes along with trump's big lie. not that he should be denouncing trump every day. to me that is an important issue. to the voters, not so important. >> robert, i want to pause here.

i am going to show you a clip from yesterday. this is daley plaza in dallas, texas. >> did we land on the moon? >> no. no. >> so that is tragic in and of itself. then consider why there were hundreds of people in texas, because of a qanon rumor that none other than john kennedy jr. was coming back, and he has been in hiding all of the years so the qanon rumor goes. complete disrespect to members of the kennedy and biset families. it is sad, tragic and happened yesterday in dallas, texas. they went home disappointed they didn't get to see their man who was go to run as vp on a ticket

with donald trump. i run this to make a point that this is a new dynamic that the democrats have to deal with. remember, it fits. the democratic response has been surely people will realize the crime in the phone call with the ukrainian leader and people will see the rampant crime of 1/6 and the crazy people in daley plaza and know it is not right. what is the other solution? those solutions have not worked. >> yeah. i can't explain what happened in dallas. mezmorizing, if you will. look, i think that we have to, as a party, grapple with really a new way of doing campaigns in an age of misinformation and disinformation. i don't think that either tactically or strategically the democrats are all that ready for this.

i also that, part of that too is that i think we as democrats need to get away from the idea that somehow if we can just explain in 90 seconds or less all of the policy implications and bonuses that we have for you that somehow will convince people too. i think it is time to break down and think through how we win races and why we win races and why did people vote differently in 2021 than in 2020. i think that it is time for a look under the hood by the democratic party. i don't think there are a lot of easy answers here. >> hard to look under the hood while the car is running at 60 miles an hour. so be it. i thank you. both of these gentlemen are staying with us while i slip in a break. coming up, where does what happened last night leave things like, oh, i don't know. voting rights and the biden agenda? t know voting rights and the biden agenda

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>> we have to step back from the partisan ship and the politicalization that is driving this nation and we should be able to agree to meaningful improvements that should help

ensure that all elections are free, fair and accessible to all-americans. >> lisa murkowski standing as the only republican in favor of moving forward with the john lewis voting act. the second time in two weeks the g.o.p. hasn't allowed even debates on voting rights protections. thankfully still with us robert gibbs and bill, did last night's results make it harder or easier to pass all or part of the biden agenda and do you agree with the jeff greenfield argument that democrats could misplay this and go to the nice people living in the holler and say that we are putting modems on poles thanks to the bill. you are going to get rural wi-fi

service and then get beaten on trans bathrooms and crt. >> i am skeptical the culture war is quite as successful as republicans like to think. they lost board of education fights around the country. republican governor lost on trans bathrooms in north carolina a couple of years ago. youngkin talked something about that but covered over by his folksy manner and business background. people in virginia were more unhappy about the public schools not being well run and open quickly enough. that was what maybe resonated. i am not so scared of the culture wars. the democrats should do a better job of hitting back. but on the first question, which was an important one, i am not sure what they would do.

but joe biden needs to lead the party and country. you know she was candid in the first segment. but at the end of the day, it is not just the congressional leadership. the process of legislation on the hill is always a mess. i would say what is striking to me reading accounts of focus groups swing and independent and democrats don't know what joe biden wants done apart from the infrastructure bill, which they think may be okay. they are not convinced about that. what is the point of the biden administration. i think that he can pick different messages. he can go left or centrist. he needs to come to grips and show strength, honestly. i think that voters would respect that. >> robert, i don't think anyone paraphrased this, here is the question. how do you solve a problem like joe manchin?

>> well, look. i think joe manchin wants to get the yes on the build back better agenda and it is going to take time. it is frustrating. it is not great. democrats don't have a great amount of time. i think we are moving in the direction earlier in the week. later last week. i think that he is going to get there. i really do. i think to pick up on what bill said is important. you know, i get a fear joe biden thinks he is still in the u.s. senate sometimes. i think he needs to go up on capitol hill or call capitol hill down to the white house and be the president of the united states. dictate to democrats that we had a long discussion and meetings between the progressives and the moderates and the moderates and the progressives together. here is what i want to do and

let's do this. lots of reports last week. he never asked the democratic caucus to vote on the infrastructure deal and not close the deal. i think democrats need to show the country that we are capable, willing and able to govern. i think it has been a tough three months. there is a lot of anxiety in the country. i think that democrats and joe biden have to get to leading the country and leading it in a better direction. >> there are interns on the hill that know where presidential power is concern, exerted, use it when there is a reasonable chance it will be successful. robert gibbs, bill crystal. thank you so much. a noted thinker and author is here with us and he noticed something about last night's election results because he just

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i think the first stages of a repudiation and the growing backlash to the woke culture manifested in a lot of racial manifest in critical race theory and others, but there is a lot to be heard from the american voter if you listen to the results across the country in this election. democrats need to heed them. >> to that point from our friend steve schmidt, my next guest warns against the influential followers of a new sort of religion. in his newest book "woke racism" john mcwhorter writes third wave anti-racism ins it laser focus on a sense of what racism is it

content to harm black people in the name of what we can only term dogma. it is a lot. back with us tonight our favorite linguist around here. he is a professor at columbia university in new york and a contributor at the atlantic. his latest book "woke racism." now in the top ten list of the "new york times" best sellers. it is a pleasure to have you. i am so curious having written and just released this. you are watching last night's returns. how much of the theme echoed back to you, and do you have a kind of realization that we may be approaching a realization on the part of the democrats that the language of wokism just might be political suicide. >> yeah. i think what we are seeing is definitely a push back against the excesses that we have seen

since roughly june of 2020. excess does not mean that for example you teach about racism and slavery in schools. in many school districts in both private and public schools, there is a general message being taught that to be white is to be culpable, that the whole american experiment can be argumented to be polluted from the beginning by the stain of racism and the essence of being black is being oppressed. a great many people agree that is a suitable default education that teaching kids that particular perspective on things is what an education is supposed to be and not something all reasonable people will agree with. instead we have a word game where somebody calls what i just said critical race theory. somebody else says that is not what in papers that legal scholars wrote 30 and 40 years ago.

that is not taught to 8-year-olds. that is what anybody meant. the terms of all of it are extremely frustrating because there are certain people, brilliant, wise people insisting that anyone that does not like the direction that so many schools are taking in terms of what they think of as instruction is some kind of a bigot, that what it is, racism rearings it ugly head and people will differ on how slavery and racism are taught in schools. when they are told they are schools they are right to be offended and it could affect elections and we will see that all it is, racism and backlash and igorance when it is much more complex. there is left and then there is radical left. the idea that radical left is default human morality and intelligence and thought. that is a tough proposition that you have to defend. you can't just throw it out

there and assume everyone will agree and call them moral perverts if they don't. >> it is always great fun to see you on there with bill maher. it was during the last segment talking about the book that bill made the point to give people a moment to take in the changes in modern society and the resulting terminology. people walk around with buckets of fear and guilt, knowing if they step a foot wrong when trying to describe anyone on the lgbtq spectrum, they will be called out, crushed and killed. >> that is why i call this thing a religion. we are dealing with the attitude of the church lady on saturday night live years ago. that is the problem. some people might need time. bill was right about that. under the new regime, the idea

is that needing some time, because it is not about battling power differentials in the here and now. needing time is wrong. it is you are against a certain time of person and you need to be shouted down with recreational mocking glee. that is not right. that is not the way that a society should be run. what a lot of the book is about, there is a certain kind of person that wields a certain kind of power in that way, really thinking they are doing the world good. i don't think they are evil. they are not powermongers. they think they found the solution to everything. it must feel good. but what they do, if you don't agree with them they call you a racist on social media. that feels like being called a pedophile to most of us because of the progress made on racism and racial attitudes and my thumbnail guest it is 9 out of 10. most people watch these people

and are afraid and pretend to agree. we are dealing with a culture of fear, a reign of terror. the people in here don't think they are doing this. not get out but sit back down the way you were before june 2020 and stop insisting if you don't get your way you are surrounded by moral perverts. that is not how the world works. >> to the folks watching all potential book buyers. at the end of the book there are suggestions for fighting racism and along the way you will learn with third wave anti-racism is. it is a powerful and a thought provoking book. our thanks to a friend of this broadcast, john mcwhorter. always a pleasure. come on any time. thank you, john. coming up, the arms are getting

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tonight about 28 million american kids 5-11 are now eligible for a pediatric version of the vaccine. something a lot of families were waiting for. other families, not so much. cdc says over 8,000 children in this age group have been hospitalized from the virus. we get our report on all of it from tom costello. >> reporter: minutes after the cdc approved the pfizer children's vaccine, kids were rolling up their sleeves. >> i can be back to normal in my classroom. >> reporter: doses arriving by the hour, hospitals and clinics nationwide are in full vaccination mode. at childrens national in d.c.,

julio was among the first at risk kids to get the shot with therapy dog barney by his side. since day one of the pandemic his parents limited his exposure to other kids. >> we do everything we can to protect the kids. it has been 600 long days. things can start to get back to normal. >> reporter: in houston, texas children's hospital working through 36,000 appointments to vaccinate 5 to 11-year-olds. cameron with her mom. >> our whole family has been fully vaccinated. she was the last one that had not been. >> reporter: a recent family study found most parents won't immediately get their kids vaccinated, many concerned about unknown side-effects. >> i let him get vaccinated for all of the other things. this i just don't trust. >> reporter: the cdc director,

herself a mother, insists this vaccine is among the most thoroughly reviewed ever. >> we have reviewed all of the safety and efficacy data before recommending this vaccine for your child. >> reporter: back in washington. how do you feel? >> halfway vaccinated. >> reporter: already looking forward to his second dose. coming up for us, one of the few democrats you will hear telling families how the biden bills will actually improve their lives, that is if democrats can deliver the bills. we will talk about this guy coming up. bills. we will talk about this guy coming up. ♪ feel stuck and need a loan?

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ryan said for years he is in politics for the people that shower after work and not before. the working men and women, the ones his party forgot how to talk to. a mcdonald's democrat in the party of whole foods. he challenged pelosi for speaker a few years back. i don't have to tell you how that went. he remains a vocal member of the house. what you are about to hear is delivered more passionately than we have heard from biden, pelosi or schumer about what is in the biden bills that would actually help make americans lives better. >> this infrastructure bill is about two things. it is about putting money in the pockets of the american people who had a rough go for the last 40 years. and this is about taking on china. we have seen in the last couple of weeks ceo pay since the 1970s

has gone up 1,300%. we have seen that the top 10 wealthiest people in the country own 90% of the stocks. so the bill is about how we get money in the pockets of people. universal preschool. one year less of child care that a family has to pay. money in their pockets. capping child care at 7% of your income. money in your pockets. helping seniors with glasses and hearing aids. money in their pockets. a tax cut finally for working people, and not for the top 1%. but for families. that is money in their pockets. if we don't recognize in this chamber and down the hall that china is a looming threat. they are here. semiconductors, out manufacture us. electric vehicles, out

manufacture us. communications equipment, they out manufacture us. pharmaceuticals our seniors get their pharmaceuticals from china. when are we going to wake up and have the guts to level the playing field. the guts to take on china. the guts to do what is right so our kids and grand kids can thrive in the united states. we have to make these investments. we have to make them now. washington has to wake up. the next bill we have to pass is mandarin in all of our schools before the game will be over. yield back the balance of my team. >> the lesson is that it can be done. a democrat can speak in terms that american families can understand. that often starts with understanding american life these days. starting with child care, education, what it costs all of us to fill our tanks. that is our broadcast for this

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